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1. 03:51 AM - Re: cradles (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
2. 06:37 AM - Re: cradles (Larry Rosen)
3. 07:19 AM - Deluxe Fuel Caps - Tip for fitting (James Hein)
4. 08:47 AM - Re: New builder (John Jessen)
5. 09:01 AM - Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps - Tip for fitting (Tim Olson)
6. 06:47 PM - Michigan Builders - can you show us your RV-10 Project? (Jeff Dalton)
7. 06:50 PM - Rick Conti, are you on the list? (Jeff Dalton)
8. 08:03 PM - shipping costs (Rick Lark)
9. 08:16 PM - Re: Michigan Builders - can you show us your RV-10 Project? (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
10. 08:22 PM - Re: shipping costs (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
11. 08:50 PM - Re: shipping costs (John Gonzalez)
12. 09:44 PM - Re: shipping costs (Jerry Grimmonpre)
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Search the archives. There have been several discussions about this including
a couple of sites that have a design.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert G. Wright
Subject: RV10-List: cradles
Looking for simple schematic on constructing wing cradles and fuse stands for QB
kit.
If I send for the preview plans, does Van's provide an example?
I got my letter today saying delivery of QB wings/fuse in April. When can I realistically
expect it? Past experience from reading the list says they may come
as early as two months from projected date.
Rob Wright
#392 Tailcone
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Here <http://lrosen.nerv10.com/tips.html> are the cradles that I put
together for my wings.
For the QB fuselage, I just set it on some 3/4" dense fome until I
attached the tail cone. Now with the tailcone attached it sits on a
dolly that runs under the wing spar and a support in the rear to hold
the tail up.
Larry Rosen
Robert G. Wright wrote:
> Looking for simple schematic on constructing wing cradles and fuse
> stands for QB kit.
>
> If I send for the preview plans, does Vans provide an example?
>
> I got my letter today saying delivery of QB wings/fuse in April. When
> can I realistically expect it? Past experience from reading the list
> says they may come as early as two months from projected date.
>
> Rob Wright
>
> #392 Tailcone
>
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| Subject: | Deluxe Fuel Caps - Tip for fitting |
Hi all!
I just finished fitting my Deluxe locking fuel caps from Van's into
my tank, and have found an excellent way to shape it so the contour will
fit more closely to the skin.
As you may know, the deluxee cap flange has an excessive contour,
that will result in a skin "burble" if installed as-is. What you need to
do is take out the high spot and flatten it so it is closer to the
standard cap's flange.
The trick? Use a belt sander and sand the flange down until it is
flat across the opening of the flange. Then, take a scotchbrite wheel to
round the edge where the sanded part ends on each side. This still
leaves a small bit of gap at the top and botton of the flange, but there
is no visible skin deformation.
I have attached a couple pictures to show it.
P.S. Any tips on prosealing? I've already found AN470AD6 rivets to fit
the tooling holes (fit perfectly!)
-Jim 40384
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Happy New Year, Jim, and welcome to a group of great folks.
There is an enormous amount of knowledge within this club of builders and
lurkers. As you progress, drop a line or two letting everyone know how
you're doing, and don't forget to visit everyone's web sites for great
advice BEFORE you start a section. Might as well take advantage of those
who've gone before. Also, remember, this is a journey. Take plenty of
pictures and notes to have to share during the trip and when it's over.
Most of all, have some fun!
My best,
John Jessen
~328 (finally back from buildus interruptus that began before Thanksgiving
and working on the elevators and EmpCone simultaneously, just because)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Carlton
Subject: RV10-List: New builder
--> RV10-List message posted by: Jim Carlton <jcarlton3@cox.net>
Opened the crate on kit #525 this afternoon! Wow, what have I got myself
into?
Everything looks nice and neat, well packed and organized. Let's hope I can
stay that way and get this baby done some day soon.
Now let's see, what did I do with that inventory list....
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps - Tip for fitting |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Jim had me add this tip to my tips area. While I was there, I
remembered that there are also wing cradle ideas there.
Here's the link.
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/wingtips.html
Thanks Jim!
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
James Hein wrote:
> Hi all!
> I just finished fitting my Deluxe locking fuel caps from Van's into
> my tank, and have found an excellent way to shape it so the contour will
> fit more closely to the skin.
>
> As you may know, the deluxee cap flange has an excessive contour,
> that will result in a skin "burble" if installed as-is. What you need to
> do is take out the high spot and flatten it so it is closer to the
> standard cap's flange.
>
> The trick? Use a belt sander and sand the flange down until it is
> flat across the opening of the flange. Then, take a scotchbrite wheel to
> round the edge where the sanded part ends on each side. This still
> leaves a small bit of gap at the top and botton of the flange, but there
> is no visible skin deformation.
>
> I have attached a couple pictures to show it.
>
> P.S. Any tips on prosealing? I've already found AN470AD6 rivets to fit
> the tooling holes (fit perfectly!)
>
> -Jim 40384
>
>
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| Subject: | Michigan Builders - can you show us your RV-10 Project? |
Hello to any Michigan builders,
We're in Waterford (fly out of PTK) and would love to come by in the next week
or two and see any RV-10 projects that are within flying/driving distance.
If you've got an hour to show us your project, talk about your experience, and
give us any advice you might have, please let me know. We'd be happy to lend
a hand while we're talking!
Thanks,
Jeff
Ordered Emp Kit on 12/30/05
"It is not the critic who counts: Not the man who points out how the strong man
stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit
belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust
and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again
and again ... who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in
the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst, if he fails, at
least he fails while daring greatly."
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| Subject: | Rick Conti, are you on the list? |
Rick,
I noticed on the RV-10 Map that you're in Arlington.
I'll be there for work the week of Jan 22nd and would love to see your project.
Any chance you've got an hour or two?
Jeff Dalton
"It is not the critic who counts: Not the man who points out how the strong man
stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit
belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust
and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again
and again ... who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in
the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst, if he fails, at
least he fails while daring greatly."
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Hi all: I'm presently a wanna be builder. A few weeks ago there were several
posts concerning shipping costs. Time issues aside, why haven't builders gone
and picked up their kits at Van's themselves using either a trailer or some sort
of a moving van? I live approximately 2600 miles from Vans (Southern Ontario).
Fuel costs, U-Haul rental, 4-6 nights accommodation enroute, and a one
way flight for 2 people from Detroit to Portland at present is approximately 2K
US. About the only thing I haven't added in are crating costs. Am I missing
something here, or are most people just too busy to go get it themselves? I
do know that Vans probably would rather send each part of the kit separately,
but..... this is my kit, so.... Comments welcomed as I don't want to waste
my time if I have not though of everything. Besides all that, I would get a cross
country tour of your great country. Sounds like a good deal to me........Rick
C-GEKJ C177B
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| Subject: | Michigan Builders - can you show us your RV-10 Project? |
I am just South of MI, near Erie PA, I have the emp cone done, and wings
are getting skinned, QB fuse on order. 4G1 is the local airport. I would
be happy to talk with you about the project.
Dan
40269
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Dalton
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:46 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Michigan Builders - can you show us your
RV-10 Project?
=09
=09
Hello to any Michigan builders,
We're in Waterford (fly out of PTK) and would love to come by in
the next week or two and see any RV-10 projects that are within
flying/driving distance.
If you've got an hour to show us your project, talk about your
experience, and give us any advice you might have, please let me know.
We'd be happy to lend a hand while we're talking!
Thanks,
Jeff
Ordered Emp Kit on 12/30/05
"It is not the critic who counts: Not the man who points out how
the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them
better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly,
who errs and comes up short again and again ... who spends himself in a
worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high
achievement, and who at worst, if he fails, at least he fails while
daring greatly."
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This is done all of the time, matter of fact Vans will tell you the
closest Uhaul place, and help you load the kits in a 24' U-haul. You get
to skip the cost of crating, but you will need cradles and pads etc to
get it safely loaded. I will be picking up my Fuse and finish kit ASAP,
like around May! There is also a new company that many are now using for
delivery, they pick it up at Vans and deliver it to you directly,
without crating and more importantly without damage. They do this for
less than it costs to crate and ship, but I do not know if they go to
Canada yet. But you can contact them and ask, you can get their number
out of the RVator or call Vans and they will help you.
Hope this helps
Dan
40269
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 11:03 PM
To: RV10-List@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: shipping costs
=09
=09
Hi all: I'm presently a wanna be builder. A few weeks ago
there were several posts concerning shipping costs. Time issues aside,
why haven't builders gone and picked up their kits at Van's themselves
using either a trailer or some sort of a moving van? I live
approximately 2600 miles from Vans (Southern Ontario). Fuel costs,
U-Haul rental, 4-6 nights accommodation enroute, and a one way flight
for 2 people from Detroit to Portland at present is approximately 2K US.
About the only thing I haven't added in are crating costs. Am I missing
something here, or are most people just too busy to go get it
themselves? I do know that Vans probably would rather send each part of
the kit separately, but..... this is my kit, so.... Comments welcomed
as I don't want to waste my time if I have not though of everything.
Besides all that, I would get a cross country tour of your great
country. Sounds like a good deal to me........Rick C-GEKJ C177B
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
The transport company is called Partain transport and I just took delivery
of my QB kit mid December to California. My 10 went to Neveda, then
Colorado and then back to Los Angeles. Glad to report no damage, a very
nice, helpful driver and a cost of $1600.00 for wings and Fuse. This is the
way to do it if it is available.
John Gonzalez
>From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>Reply-To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: shipping costs
>Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 23:21:39 -0500
>
>This is done all of the time, matter of fact Vans will tell you the
>closest Uhaul place, and help you load the kits in a 24' U-haul. You get
>to skip the cost of crating, but you will need cradles and pads etc to
>get it safely loaded. I will be picking up my Fuse and finish kit ASAP,
>like around May! There is also a new company that many are now using for
>delivery, they pick it up at Vans and deliver it to you directly,
>without crating and more importantly without damage. They do this for
>less than it costs to crate and ship, but I do not know if they go to
>Canada yet. But you can contact them and ask, you can get their number
>out of the RVator or call Vans and they will help you.
>Hope this helps
>Dan
>40269
>Do not Archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 11:03 PM
> To: RV10-List@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: shipping costs
>
>
> Hi all: I'm presently a wanna be builder. A few weeks ago
>there were several posts concerning shipping costs. Time issues aside,
>why haven't builders gone and picked up their kits at Van's themselves
>using either a trailer or some sort of a moving van? I live
>approximately 2600 miles from Vans (Southern Ontario). Fuel costs,
>U-Haul rental, 4-6 nights accommodation enroute, and a one way flight
>for 2 people from Detroit to Portland at present is approximately 2K US.
>About the only thing I haven't added in are crating costs. Am I missing
>something here, or are most people just too busy to go get it
>themselves? I do know that Vans probably would rather send each part of
>the kit separately, but..... this is my kit, so.... Comments welcomed
>as I don't want to waste my time if I have not though of everything.
>Besides all that, I would get a cross country tour of your great
>country. Sounds like a good deal to me........Rick C-GEKJ C177B
>
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| Subject: | Re: shipping costs |
MessageTony Partain is the private shipper, his number ... 1-800-774-0828 ... would
you have to pay tax going into Canada?
Jerry Grimmonpre' RV8A
----- Original Message -----
From: Lloyd, Daniel R.
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:21 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: shipping costs
This is done all of the time, matter of fact Vans will tell you the closest Uhaul
place, and help you load the kits in a 24' U-haul. You get to skip the cost
of crating, but you will need cradles and pads etc to get it safely loaded.
I will be picking up my Fuse and finish kit ASAP, like around May! There is also
a new company that many are now using for delivery, they pick it up at Vans
and deliver it to you directly, without crating and more importantly without
damage. They do this for less than it costs to crate and ship, but I do not know
if they go to Canada yet. But you can contact them and ask, you can get their
number out of the RVator or call Vans and they will help you.
Hope this helps
Dan
40269
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