---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/01/06: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:51 AM - Re: cradles (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 2. 06:37 AM - Re: cradles (Larry Rosen) 3. 07:19 AM - Deluxe Fuel Caps - Tip for fitting (James Hein) 4. 08:47 AM - Re: New builder (John Jessen) 5. 09:01 AM - Re: Deluxe Fuel Caps - Tip for fitting (Tim Olson) 6. 06:47 PM - Michigan Builders - can you show us your RV-10 Project? (Jeff Dalton) 7. 06:50 PM - Rick Conti, are you on the list? (Jeff Dalton) 8. 08:03 PM - shipping costs (Rick Lark) 9. 08:16 PM - Re: Michigan Builders - can you show us your RV-10 Project? (Lloyd, Daniel R.) 10. 08:22 PM - Re: shipping costs (Lloyd, Daniel R.) 11. 08:50 PM - Re: shipping costs (John Gonzalez) 12. 09:44 PM - Re: shipping costs (Jerry Grimmonpre) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:39 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: cradles From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Search the archives. There have been several discussions about this including a couple of sites that have a design. Michael Sausen -10 #352 Fuselage do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert G. Wright Subject: RV10-List: cradles Looking for simple schematic on constructing wing cradles and fuse stands for QB kit. If I send for the preview plans, does Van's provide an example? I got my letter today saying delivery of QB wings/fuse in April. When can I realistically expect it? Past experience from reading the list says they may come as early as two months from projected date. Rob Wright #392 Tailcone ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:36 AM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: cradles --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen Here are the cradles that I put together for my wings. For the QB fuselage, I just set it on some 3/4" dense fome until I attached the tail cone. Now with the tailcone attached it sits on a dolly that runs under the wing spar and a support in the rear to hold the tail up. Larry Rosen Robert G. Wright wrote: > Looking for simple schematic on constructing wing cradles and fuse > stands for QB kit. > > If I send for the preview plans, does Vans provide an example? > > I got my letter today saying delivery of QB wings/fuse in April. When > can I realistically expect it? Past experience from reading the list > says they may come as early as two months from projected date. > > Rob Wright > > #392 Tailcone > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:54 AM PST US From: James Hein Subject: RV10-List: Deluxe Fuel Caps - Tip for fitting Hi all! I just finished fitting my Deluxe locking fuel caps from Van's into my tank, and have found an excellent way to shape it so the contour will fit more closely to the skin. As you may know, the deluxee cap flange has an excessive contour, that will result in a skin "burble" if installed as-is. What you need to do is take out the high spot and flatten it so it is closer to the standard cap's flange. The trick? Use a belt sander and sand the flange down until it is flat across the opening of the flange. Then, take a scotchbrite wheel to round the edge where the sanded part ends on each side. This still leaves a small bit of gap at the top and botton of the flange, but there is no visible skin deformation. I have attached a couple pictures to show it. P.S. Any tips on prosealing? I've already found AN470AD6 rivets to fit the tooling holes (fit perfectly!) -Jim 40384 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:35 AM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RE: RV10-List: New builder --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" Happy New Year, Jim, and welcome to a group of great folks. There is an enormous amount of knowledge within this club of builders and lurkers. As you progress, drop a line or two letting everyone know how you're doing, and don't forget to visit everyone's web sites for great advice BEFORE you start a section. Might as well take advantage of those who've gone before. Also, remember, this is a journey. Take plenty of pictures and notes to have to share during the trip and when it's over. Most of all, have some fun! My best, John Jessen ~328 (finally back from buildus interruptus that began before Thanksgiving and working on the elevators and EmpCone simultaneously, just because) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Carlton Subject: RV10-List: New builder --> RV10-List message posted by: Jim Carlton Opened the crate on kit #525 this afternoon! Wow, what have I got myself into? Everything looks nice and neat, well packed and organized. Let's hope I can stay that way and get this baby done some day soon. Now let's see, what did I do with that inventory list.... Jim ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:06 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Deluxe Fuel Caps - Tip for fitting --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Jim had me add this tip to my tips area. While I was there, I remembered that there are also wing cradle ideas there. Here's the link. http://www.myrv10.com/tips/wingtips.html Thanks Jim! Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 James Hein wrote: > Hi all! > I just finished fitting my Deluxe locking fuel caps from Van's into > my tank, and have found an excellent way to shape it so the contour will > fit more closely to the skin. > > As you may know, the deluxee cap flange has an excessive contour, > that will result in a skin "burble" if installed as-is. What you need to > do is take out the high spot and flatten it so it is closer to the > standard cap's flange. > > The trick? Use a belt sander and sand the flange down until it is > flat across the opening of the flange. Then, take a scotchbrite wheel to > round the edge where the sanded part ends on each side. This still > leaves a small bit of gap at the top and botton of the flange, but there > is no visible skin deformation. > > I have attached a couple pictures to show it. > > P.S. Any tips on prosealing? I've already found AN470AD6 rivets to fit > the tooling holes (fit perfectly!) > > -Jim 40384 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:05 PM PST US From: "Jeff Dalton" Subject: RV10-List: Michigan Builders - can you show us your RV-10 Project? Hello to any Michigan builders, We're in Waterford (fly out of PTK) and would love to come by in the next week or two and see any RV-10 projects that are within flying/driving distance. If you've got an hour to show us your project, talk about your experience, and give us any advice you might have, please let me know. We'd be happy to lend a hand while we're talking! Thanks, Jeff Ordered Emp Kit on 12/30/05 "It is not the critic who counts: Not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again ... who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly." ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:40 PM PST US From: "Jeff Dalton" Subject: RV10-List: Rick Conti, are you on the list? Rick, I noticed on the RV-10 Map that you're in Arlington. I'll be there for work the week of Jan 22nd and would love to see your project. Any chance you've got an hour or two? Jeff Dalton "It is not the critic who counts: Not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again ... who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly." ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:50 PM PST US From: "Rick Lark" Subject: RV10-List: shipping costs Hi all: I'm presently a wanna be builder. A few weeks ago there were several posts concerning shipping costs. Time issues aside, why haven't builders gone and picked up their kits at Van's themselves using either a trailer or some sort of a moving van? I live approximately 2600 miles from Vans (Southern Ontario). Fuel costs, U-Haul rental, 4-6 nights accommodation enroute, and a one way flight for 2 people from Detroit to Portland at present is approximately 2K US. About the only thing I haven't added in are crating costs. Am I missing something here, or are most people just too busy to go get it themselves? I do know that Vans probably would rather send each part of the kit separately, but..... this is my kit, so.... Comments welcomed as I don't want to waste my time if I have not though of everything. Besides all that, I would get a cross country tour of your great country. Sounds like a good deal to me........Rick C-GEKJ C177B ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:16:30 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Michigan Builders - can you show us your RV-10 Project? From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." I am just South of MI, near Erie PA, I have the emp cone done, and wings are getting skinned, QB fuse on order. 4G1 is the local airport. I would be happy to talk with you about the project. Dan 40269 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Dalton Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 9:46 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Michigan Builders - can you show us your RV-10 Project? =09 =09 Hello to any Michigan builders, We're in Waterford (fly out of PTK) and would love to come by in the next week or two and see any RV-10 projects that are within flying/driving distance. If you've got an hour to show us your project, talk about your experience, and give us any advice you might have, please let me know. We'd be happy to lend a hand while we're talking! Thanks, Jeff Ordered Emp Kit on 12/30/05 "It is not the critic who counts: Not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again ... who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly." ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:03 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: shipping costs From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." This is done all of the time, matter of fact Vans will tell you the closest Uhaul place, and help you load the kits in a 24' U-haul. You get to skip the cost of crating, but you will need cradles and pads etc to get it safely loaded. I will be picking up my Fuse and finish kit ASAP, like around May! There is also a new company that many are now using for delivery, they pick it up at Vans and deliver it to you directly, without crating and more importantly without damage. They do this for less than it costs to crate and ship, but I do not know if they go to Canada yet. But you can contact them and ask, you can get their number out of the RVator or call Vans and they will help you. Hope this helps Dan 40269 Do not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 11:03 PM To: RV10-List@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: shipping costs =09 =09 Hi all: I'm presently a wanna be builder. A few weeks ago there were several posts concerning shipping costs. Time issues aside, why haven't builders gone and picked up their kits at Van's themselves using either a trailer or some sort of a moving van? I live approximately 2600 miles from Vans (Southern Ontario). Fuel costs, U-Haul rental, 4-6 nights accommodation enroute, and a one way flight for 2 people from Detroit to Portland at present is approximately 2K US. About the only thing I haven't added in are crating costs. Am I missing something here, or are most people just too busy to go get it themselves? I do know that Vans probably would rather send each part of the kit separately, but..... this is my kit, so.... Comments welcomed as I don't want to waste my time if I have not though of everything. Besides all that, I would get a cross country tour of your great country. Sounds like a good deal to me........Rick C-GEKJ C177B ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:50:58 PM PST US From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: RE: RV10-List: shipping costs --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" The transport company is called Partain transport and I just took delivery of my QB kit mid December to California. My 10 went to Neveda, then Colorado and then back to Los Angeles. Glad to report no damage, a very nice, helpful driver and a cost of $1600.00 for wings and Fuse. This is the way to do it if it is available. John Gonzalez >From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." >Reply-To: rv10-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: RE: RV10-List: shipping costs >Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 23:21:39 -0500 > >This is done all of the time, matter of fact Vans will tell you the >closest Uhaul place, and help you load the kits in a 24' U-haul. You get >to skip the cost of crating, but you will need cradles and pads etc to >get it safely loaded. I will be picking up my Fuse and finish kit ASAP, >like around May! There is also a new company that many are now using for >delivery, they pick it up at Vans and deliver it to you directly, >without crating and more importantly without damage. They do this for >less than it costs to crate and ship, but I do not know if they go to >Canada yet. But you can contact them and ask, you can get their number >out of the RVator or call Vans and they will help you. >Hope this helps >Dan >40269 >Do not Archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Lark > Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 11:03 PM > To: RV10-List@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: shipping costs > > > Hi all: I'm presently a wanna be builder. A few weeks ago >there were several posts concerning shipping costs. Time issues aside, >why haven't builders gone and picked up their kits at Van's themselves >using either a trailer or some sort of a moving van? I live >approximately 2600 miles from Vans (Southern Ontario). Fuel costs, >U-Haul rental, 4-6 nights accommodation enroute, and a one way flight >for 2 people from Detroit to Portland at present is approximately 2K US. >About the only thing I haven't added in are crating costs. Am I missing >something here, or are most people just too busy to go get it >themselves? I do know that Vans probably would rather send each part of >the kit separately, but..... this is my kit, so.... Comments welcomed >as I don't want to waste my time if I have not though of everything. >Besides all that, I would get a cross country tour of your great >country. Sounds like a good deal to me........Rick C-GEKJ C177B > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:25 PM PST US From: "Jerry Grimmonpre" Subject: Re: RV10-List: shipping costs MessageTony Partain is the private shipper, his number ... 1-800-774-0828 ... would you have to pay tax going into Canada? Jerry Grimmonpre' RV8A ----- Original Message ----- From: Lloyd, Daniel R. To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 10:21 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: shipping costs This is done all of the time, matter of fact Vans will tell you the closest Uhaul place, and help you load the kits in a 24' U-haul. You get to skip the cost of crating, but you will need cradles and pads etc to get it safely loaded. I will be picking up my Fuse and finish kit ASAP, like around May! There is also a new company that many are now using for delivery, they pick it up at Vans and deliver it to you directly, without crating and more importantly without damage. They do this for less than it costs to crate and ship, but I do not know if they go to Canada yet. But you can contact them and ask, you can get their number out of the RVator or call Vans and they will help you. Hope this helps Dan 40269 Do not Archive