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1. 12:12 AM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (dralle@matronics.com)
2. 07:25 AM - Re: shipping costs (Albert Gardner)
3. 07:37 AM - Re: shipping costs (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
4. 08:07 AM - Re: shipping costs (Gary Seaton)
5. 10:02 AM - Re: shipping costs (Bill)
6. 11:16 AM - Fire Suppression? (Jeff Dalton)
7. 12:29 PM - Cost to paint RV10 (Wayne Edgerton)
8. 03:29 PM - Re: Cost to paint RV10 (Ed Godfrey)
9. 05:18 PM - Re: Cost to paint RV10 (Jeff Dalton)
10. 06:47 PM - Re: Cost to paint RV10 (Carl Froehlich)
11. 06:52 PM - Re: Cost to paint RV10 (Tim Olson)
12. 07:06 PM - Fuel tank senders (Bill and Tami Britton)
13. 07:19 PM - Re: Fire Suppression? (John W. Cox)
14. 07:21 PM - Re: Cost to paint RV10 (John W. Cox)
15. 07:27 PM - Re: Fire Suppression? (Jeff Dalton)
16. 11:01 PM - F1013-L Longeron Tist (McGANN, Ron)
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| Subject: | Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] |
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--> RV10-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com
Dear Lister,
Please read over the RV10-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV10-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV10-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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RV10-List Usage Guidelines
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I picked up my wing and fuse kit at Vans and hauled it home on my pickup.
Worked fine. The wing kit is 2 boxes: the spars are about 1 x 1 x 14 ft, and
the skins are 1 x 3 x 8.5 ft. The fuse box is 4 x 5 x 8 ft. Vans provided
help to load and total weight was about 900 lbs as I remember. The exact
weights and dimensions are on Vans web site. My experience with the motor
freight is such that there is no way you could do worse than they do.
Albert Gardner
RV-10 40-422
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| Subject: | Re: shipping costs |
Partain delivered my complete 10 QB in August. Even if it had not been
cheaper it is definitely safer. Tony Partain is a RV builder/flyer and an
outstanding individual. Someone along the way unloaded most of my finish kit,
hopefully by mistake, and Tony is getting it worked out even at his expense to
replace some components. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIER SERVICES.
Doug Preston
#40372
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| Subject: | Re: shipping costs |
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| Subject: | Re: shipping costs |
I'll chime in with the same sentiments.....................Tony delivered my QB
Wings/Fuse/Finishing Kit in Nov. Great experience. Stayed in touch with me
all the way.
Bill Stegemann
40423
----- Original Message -----
From: Gary Seaton
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: shipping costs
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Seaton"
I'll echo Doug here. Terrific service, fair pricing, and great folks at Partain
Transport. Used them in mid-Dec 05 to deliver QB wings and fuse to Montrose,
CO. Very satisfied. The fact that Tony's running 5 trucks tells you that
a LOT of RV customers agree. He's built the proverbial better mousetrap. Isn't
America great? Happy New Year to everyone.
Gary Seaton
From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
Reply-To: rv10-list@matronics.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: shipping costs
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:34:52 EST
Partain delivered my complete 10 QB in August. Even if it had not been cheaper
it is definitely safer. Tony Partain is a RV builder/flyer and an outstanding
individual. Someone along the way unloaded most of my finish kit, hopefully
by mistake, and Tony is getting it worked out even at his expense to replace
some components. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIER SERVICES.
Doug Preston
#40372
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| Subject: | Fire Suppression? |
Anyone looking at fire suppression systems (other than a bottle under your seat)?
"It is not the critic who counts: Not the man who points out how the strong man
stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit
belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust
and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again
and again ... who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in
the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst, if he fails, at
least he fails while daring greatly."
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| Subject: | Cost to paint RV10 |
Hello all,
If any of you have had your RV10 painted or have gotten an estimate on painting
it, could you please share what type of price you've had?
Wayne Edgerton RV10 #40336
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| Subject: | Re: Cost to paint RV10 |
Wayne,
I had asked for an estimate from Woodlake Refinishing and they
mentioned about $6,000.
Ed Godfrey
Wayne Edgerton wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> If any of you have had your RV10 painted or have gotten an estimate on
> painting it, could you please share what type of price you've had?
>
> Wayne Edgerton RV10 #40336
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cost to paint RV10 |
Boy, that seems steep for a first paint job. My Cherokee was a little more and
they spent most of their time stripping the old paint off. Of course, the RV
will have nicer paint!
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Godfrey
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cost to paint RV10
Wayne,
I had asked for an estimate from Woodlake Refinishing and they mentioned
about $6,000.
Ed Godfrey
Wayne Edgerton wrote:
Hello all,
If any of you have had your RV10 painted or have gotten an estimate on painting
it, could you please share what type of price you've had?
Wayne Edgerton RV10 #40336
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| Subject: | Cost to paint RV10 |
Paint is expensive. The paint itself cost me $2500 for my RV-8A (PPG
Concept base coat - clear coat).
Carl Froehlich
RV-10 tail kit arrived last week
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Dalton
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 8:18 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cost to paint RV10
Boy, that seems steep for a first paint job. My Cherokee was a little
more and they spent most of their time stripping the old paint off. Of
course, the RV will have nicer paint!
----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Godfrey
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cost to paint RV10
Wayne,
I had asked for an estimate from Woodlake Refinishing and they
mentioned about $6,000.
Ed Godfrey
Wayne Edgerton wrote:
Hello all,
If any of you have had your RV10 painted or have gotten an estimate on
painting it, could you please share what type of price you've had?
Wayne Edgerton RV10 #40336
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| Subject: | Re: Cost to paint RV10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Too many factors come into play to judge the cost that
closely, but I personally don't think that $6K is out
of line. It somewhat depends on how much you leave to the
painter to complete. All I know is that including paint
and the 80 hours help I paid for at only $20/hr, I paid
over $3,000 to do it myself. The paint shop rate in auto
body around here is $55/hr. I know I personally must
have had 200-250 or so hours into sanding, filling,
and general painting prep. So I think it would have
to be up in the $8k price before I'd even think it
was getting out of line too far. $5k is a bargain.
Tim
do not archive
Jeff Dalton wrote:
> Boy, that seems steep for a first paint job. My Cherokee was a little
> more and they spent most of their time stripping the old paint off. Of
> course, the RV will have nicer paint!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ed Godfrey <mailto:egodfrey@ameritech.net>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 02, 2006 6:28 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Cost to paint RV10
>
> Wayne,
> I had asked for an estimate from Woodlake Refinishing and they
> mentioned about $6,000.
>
> Ed Godfrey
>
> Wayne Edgerton wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> If any of you have had your RV10 painted or have gotten an
>> estimate on painting it, could you please share what type of price
>> you've had?
>>
>> Wayne Edgerton RV10 #40336
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Fuel tank senders |
I'll be starting the tanks on my -10 sometime in the near future and was wondering
if there's a capacitance sender yet for the -10 tanks or if they still only
have the float type. What are the advantages/disadvantages over both.
Thanks
Bill Britton
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| Subject: | Fire Suppression? |
Hey Jeff,
I think your quote deserves the tagline of Theodore Roosevelt and can be
found as part of the Special Ops credo.
Consider
http://www.eclipseaviation.com/about_eclipse/innovations/phostrex.html
PhostrEX which is the environmentally friendly patented new product
which replaces Halon. Lightweight and compact.
John - $00.02
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Dalton
Subject: RV10-List: Fire Suppression?
Anyone looking at fire suppression systems (other than a bottle under
your seat)?
"It is not the critic who counts: Not the man who points out how the
strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them
better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena,
whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly,
who errs and comes up short again and again ... who spends himself in a
worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high
achievement, and who at worst, if he fails, at least he fails while
daring greatly."
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| Subject: | Cost to paint RV10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
I can confirm the accuracy of those prices. Tom Conner in Bend does EAA
award winners for prices over $20K. It's all about the quality of the
prep and the amount of work completed by the builder. $2,000 in
materials alone is on the shy side.
John - KUAO
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cost to paint RV10
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Too many factors come into play to judge the cost that
closely, but I personally don't think that $6K is out
of line. It somewhat depends on how much you leave to the
painter to complete. All I know is that including paint
and the 80 hours help I paid for at only $20/hr, I paid
over $3,000 to do it myself. The paint shop rate in auto
body around here is $55/hr. I know I personally must
have had 200-250 or so hours into sanding, filling,
and general painting prep. So I think it would have
to be up in the $8k price before I'd even think it
was getting out of line too far. $5k is a bargain.
Tim
do not archive
Jeff Dalton wrote:
> Boy, that seems steep for a first paint job. My Cherokee was a little
> more and they spent most of their time stripping the old paint off. Of
> course, the RV will have nicer paint!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ed Godfrey <mailto:egodfrey@ameritech.net>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 02, 2006 6:28 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Cost to paint RV10
>
> Wayne,
> I had asked for an estimate from Woodlake Refinishing and they
> mentioned about $6,000.
>
> Ed Godfrey
>
> Wayne Edgerton wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> If any of you have had your RV10 painted or have gotten an
>> estimate on painting it, could you please share what type of
price
>> you've had?
>>
>> Wayne Edgerton RV10 #40336
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Fire Suppression? |
yes, it is TR
----- Original Message -----
From: John W. Cox
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 10:18 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fire Suppression?
Hey Jeff,
I think your quote deserves the tagline of Theodore Roosevelt and can be found
as part of the Special Ops credo.
Consider http://www.eclipseaviation.com/about_eclipse/innovations/phostrex.html PhostrEX which is the environmentally friendly patented new product which replaces Halon. Lightweight and compact.
John - $00.02
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Dalton
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 11:16 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Fire Suppression?
Anyone looking at fire suppression systems (other than a bottle under your seat)?
"It is not the critic who counts: Not the man who points out how the strong man
stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit
belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust
and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again
and again ... who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows,
in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst, if he fails, at
least he fails while daring greatly."
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| Subject: | F1013-L Longeron Tist |
G'day all,
Happy New Year from Oz!!
Have spent some time bending the fuse longerons. Plans have you mark fwd/aft twist
marks and start/end bend marks on the F1013 left and right longerons. The
plans only call for the right Longeron to be twisted. Is the left longeron
twisted at the forward twist mark?
thanks in advance
Ron
40187 fuse
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