RV10-List Digest Archive

Sat 01/07/06


Total Messages Posted: 23



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     1. 02:32 AM - Re: Re: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection ()
     2. 06:28 AM - Re: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection (Tim Olson)
     3. 07:06 AM - Transition Training Plane - Builder of? (Tim Olson)
     4. 07:40 AM - Re: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     5. 07:40 AM - Re: Transition Training Plane - Builder of? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     6. 08:12 AM - Re: Transition Training Plane - Builder of? (Tim Olson)
     7. 09:35 AM - RV10 Parts (Joseph Czachorowski)
     8. 09:39 AM - Re: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
     9. 09:59 AM - Re: RV10 Parts (Deems Davis)
    10. 10:14 AM - Rudder fairing light bracket attachment (Jay Rowe)
    11. 10:35 AM - Re: Rudder fairing light bracket attachment (Byron Gillespie)
    12. 10:43 AM - Re: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection (Jerry Grimmonpre)
    13. 11:02 AM - Re: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection (Tim Olson)
    14. 11:06 AM - Re: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection (linn walters)
    15. 12:11 PM - Re: RV10 Parts (John W. Cox)
    16. 12:40 PM - RV10 Parts (Joseph Czachorowski)
    17. 12:54 PM - Re: RV10 Parts (Deems Davis)
    18. 12:54 PM - Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection (Bob)
    19. 03:53 PM - Re: Transition Training Plane - Builder of? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    20. 03:53 PM - Re: RV10 Parts (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    21. 06:59 PM - RV10 Trim Tab Cable Anchor Brackets (Joseph Czachorowski)
    22. 07:54 PM - Re: New Oil Cooler Shutter from Van's (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    23. 09:27 PM - Re: Re: New Oil Cooler Shutter from Van's (Tim Olson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:32:50 AM PST US
    From: <dav1111@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <dav1111@cox.net> I have installed the Pedriheliondesigns Fat Wire and although yet to start the engine I am real happy with the purchase and install. I installed as per Van's Wiring Harness design with a Concord Battery. The Fat Wire is really lite weight and everybody who has seen mine likes it. I also am using the Fat Wire connection lugs and like them as well. Russ Daves N710RV Reserved - Flying to OSH 2006 > > From: "ddddsp1@juno.com" <ddddsp1@juno.com> > Date: 2006/01/07 Sat AM 01:29:53 EST > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection > > Anyone using the FATWIRE battery cable from Periheliondesigns.com? Suppose to be 45% lighter and more flexible? Twice tha cost though!!! Also, was looking to do an Odessey 925 with a small SLA motorcycle battery as a backup in case of ALT/BAT failure. Anyone done this.....if so what does your wiring diagram look like and where did you mount the backup battery?. I would want the backup battery on a separate circuit just to switch on in case alt or main battery failed..........would like it to be charged while flying too. > Thanks, > DEAN > >


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    Time: 06:28:05 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Sounds real close to what I did (the Battery stuff). I didn't use Fatwire just because of cost, but I would think it would be an excellent option for those so inclined. My Batteries are an Odyssey 925 in the back (I didn't put it on it's side, but enlarged the tray...either way works fine) and I wanted a bit more juice from the Aux, so I have 4 thin SLA's that just make it tucked into some wasted space. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/panel/20051228/index.html At present, I have it all wired up and working, but I don't have photos yet. My diagram is available too. Today's is http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/electrical/N104CD_Electrical_Schematic_Rev5.pdf But I change it as I find small things as I'm currently wiring it. It might be a bit different than what some people would do, but I'm happy with it. Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Current section: Panel Wiring DO NOT ARCHIVE ddddsp1@juno.com wrote: > Anyone using the FATWIRE battery cable from Periheliondesigns.com? > Suppose to be 45% lighter and more flexible? Twice tha cost > though!!! Also, was looking to do an Odessey 925 with a small SLA > motorcycle battery as a backup in case of ALT/BAT failure. Anyone done > this.....if so what does your wiring diagram look like and where did you > mount the backup battery?. I would want the backup battery on a > separate circuit just to switch on in case alt or main battery > failed..........would like it to be charged while flying too. > > Thanks, > > DEAN >


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    Time: 07:06:45 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Transition Training Plane - Builder of?
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Does anyone know who was involved in the building of Alex DeDominicis's RV-10? I thought I had heard he was, but I want to make sure. On the VAF site, they show the Nhys, DeDominicis, and TruTrak RV-10's all lined up in a row, so they must not be too far from eachother. I would be interested in traveling for a bit of transition training soon, but as some of us discussed at OSH, I would have some concerns if there were ties to one particular builder who's work we got to inspect. There are certain planes I will not fly in, and certain builders who I would not fly in their planes. From our offline discussions at OSH, I'm sure many of you know what I mean. I just want to make sure before I would try to get any transition training from related parties. -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:40:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Neat stuff and I am considering it. Much lighter and it is actually #2+ as it is really a little better than #2. Send Eric an email with your address and he will send you a short sample of the different wires. And you can always use the sample as a short run. ;-) Michael do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ddddsp1@juno.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection Anyone using the FATWIRE battery cable from Periheliondesigns.com? Suppose to be 45% lighter and more flexible? Twice tha cost though!!! Also, was looking to do an Odessey 925 with a small SLA motorcycle battery as a backup in case of ALT/BAT failure. Anyone done this.....if so what does your wiring diagram look like and where did you mount the backup battery?. I would want the backup battery on a separate circuit just to switch on in case alt or main battery failed..........would like it to be charged while flying too. Thanks, DEAN


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    Time: 07:40:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Transition Training Plane - Builder of?
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Hmm, I can't remember but I can probably find out. I do know it was a respected builder assist shop. Alex is local to me down here (about 15 miles as the crow flies) and my TC, Martin Sutter, had nothing but good things to say about Alex and the shop that he built his at. If you come down for training you are welcome to drop my shop and buck some rivets ;-) Michael Sausen -10 #352 Fuselage Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: Transition Training Plane - Builder of? --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Does anyone know who was involved in the building of Alex DeDominicis's RV-10? I thought I had heard he was, but I want to make sure. On the VAF site, they show the Nhys, DeDominicis, and TruTrak RV-10's all lined up in a row, so they must not be too far from eachother. I would be interested in traveling for a bit of transition training soon, but as some of us discussed at OSH, I would have some concerns if there were ties to one particular builder who's work we got to inspect. There are certain planes I will not fly in, and certain builders who I would not fly in their planes. From our offline discussions at OSH, I'm sure many of you know what I mean. I just want to make sure before I would try to get any transition training from related parties. -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 08:12:56 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Transition Training Plane - Builder of?
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Thanks Michael, that's great to know. See if you can find out. If he built it himself, or with a reputable builder assist shop, then I would be very interested in zipping down sometime in the next month and a half maybe and getting a few hours in. I just want to "know the product" a bit. I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talking about. Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 DO NOT ARCHIVE RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > Hmm, I can't remember but I can probably find out. I do know it was > a respected builder assist shop. Alex is local to me down here > (about 15 miles as the crow flies) and my TC, Martin Sutter, had > nothing but good things to say about Alex and the shop that he built > his at. If you come down for training you are welcome to drop my > shop and buck some rivets ;-) > > > Michael Sausen -10 #352 Fuselage Do not archive > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson > Sent: Sat 1/7/2006 9:06 AM To: RV10 Subject: RV10-List: Transition > Training Plane - Builder of? > > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > > Does anyone know who was involved in the building of Alex > DeDominicis's RV-10? I thought I had heard he was, but I want to > make sure. On the VAF site, they show the Nhys, DeDominicis, and > TruTrak RV-10's all lined up in a row, so they must not be too far > from eachother. > > I would be interested in traveling for a bit of transition training > soon, but as some of us discussed at OSH, I would have some concerns > if there were ties to one particular builder who's work we got to > inspect. There are certain planes I will not fly in, and certain > builders who I would not fly in their planes. From our offline > discussions at OSH, I'm sure many of you know what I mean. I just > want to make sure before I would try to get any transition training > from related parties. >


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    Time: 09:35:08 AM PST US
    From: "Joseph Czachorowski" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
    Subject: RV10 Parts
    While building my RV10 tail kit, I came across several new ideas that many builders may be interested in. The first part that I wanted to "improve" was the trim tab cable weldment. I know the weldment included in the kit is OK, but I didn't like the "tack-weld" of the small nut. I had my nephew Dave (Rivethead-Aero.com) make me up a new part that replaces that weldment. It is made from 6061 aluminum billet and is set at the exact same angle as the steel weldment. It rivets on with 4 rivets as the other part. Dave said the aluminum part is three times stronger then Van's part. If you are interested in this part, let me know and I'll gask Dave to start pumping them out on his CNC. I can also email you a picture of it if interested. Also, if you are having problems cutting out the Horizontal Stab L brackets from the stock provided in the tail kit, again, Dave made me up 2 on the CNC. He cut the 9 holes on the one side and the 2 on the other. Needless to say, they lined up perfectly when mounted to the HS Stab spar. I have pictures to email interested. Zack zackrv8 at verizon.net


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    Time: 09:39:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> I considered it but the wire, although lighter, is much larger diameter than standard. Space in my conduit is at a premium. Bob -------------------------- Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection Anyone using the FATWIRE battery cable from Periheliondesigns.com? Suppose to be 45% lighter and more flexible? Twice tha cost though!!! Also, was looking to do an Odessey 925 with a small SLA motorcycle battery as a backup in case of ALT/BAT failure. Anyone done this.....if so what does your wiring diagram look like and where did you mount the backup battery?. I would want the backup battery on a separate circuit just to switch on in case alt or main battery failed..........would like it to be charged while flying too. Thanks, DEAN


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    Time: 09:59:06 AM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: RV10 Parts
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> Zack, based on recent discussion on this board, I believe there are many (myself included) that would be interested in the trim tab replacement part, can you post a pic? or a link to one. If you don't have acces to a web site, send me the pic and I'll put it up on mine with a link back to the group. Deems Davis # 406 Wings http://deemsrv10.com/ Joseph Czachorowski wrote: > * While building my RV10 tail kit, I came across several new ideas > that many builders may be interested in. The first part that I wanted > to "improve" was the trim tab cable weldment. I know the weldment > included in the kit is OK, but I didn't like the "tack-weld" of the > small nut. I had my nephew Dave (Rivethead-Aero.com) make me up a new > part that replaces that weldment. It is made from 6061 aluminum > billet and is set at the exact same angle as the steel weldment. It > rivets on with 4 rivets as the other part. Dave said the aluminum > part is three times stronger then Van's part.* > ** > * If you are interested in this part, let me know and I'll gask Dave > to start pumping them out on his CNC. I can also email you a picture > of it if interested. * > ** > * Also, if you are having problems cutting out the Horizontal Stab > L brackets from the stock provided in the tail kit, again, Dave made > me up 2 on the CNC. He cut the 9 holes on the one side and the 2 on > the other. Needless to say, they lined up perfectly when mounted to > the HS Stab spar. I have pictures to email interested.* > ** > *Zack* > *zackrv8 at verizon.net <mailto:zackrv8@verizon.net>*


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    Time: 10:14:05 AM PST US
    From: "Jay Rowe" <jfrjr@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Rudder fairing light bracket attachment
    Hey Group: Just now installing all the tail feather attachments and I can not fiqure out how to attach the nav. light/strobe to the rudder fairing. I have Van's System 6 package with the combined lites. The bracket has to be attached from the outside as it will not fit through the narrow passage from the inside. Does one just use small screws to attach it to the fiberglass, or bondo, or glue, or whatever. Help please. Jay Rowe


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    Time: 10:35:43 AM PST US
    From: "Byron Gillespie" <bgill1@charter.net>
    Subject: Rudder fairing light bracket attachment
    Jay: I just used some female threaded tube cut to size and ran the screws snug. Then used fiberglass (W/filler) to build up the area inside thus securing the threaded tube. After letting it set up, just reverse out the screws and mount the light. Worked well for me. I am sure that there are other options as well. Byron #40253 Beginning the finishing kit -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay Rowe Subject: RV10-List: Rudder fairing light bracket attachment Hey Group: Just now installing all the tail feather attachments and I can not fiqure out how to attach the nav. light/strobe to the rudder fairing. I have Van's System 6 package with the combined lites. The bracket has to be attached from the outside as it will not fit through the narrow passage from the inside. Does one just use small screws to attach it to the fiberglass, or bondo, or glue, or whatever. Help please. Jay Rowe


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    Time: 10:43:30 AM PST US
    From: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
    Subject: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net> Tim ... Your batt install is the best use of airframe space I've seen. I also like your strap hold-down idea. I'm using a nylon strap as well ... secured with velcro on top of batt plus velcro between the strap on the return fold. Question: What program did you use to to draw your wiring diagram? Did you down load the symbols from Aeroelectric? I just ordered TurboCAD from ebay V9.2 ... Thanks ... Jerry Grimmonpre' RV8A


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    Time: 11:02:06 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Thanks Jerry. I used Autocad 2000, I think it is. I just loaded up one of Bob's existing drawings and then moved things around. I didn't use any symbol libraries until today when I finally decided to replace the symbol for the ammeter shunt for something more like a Hall Effect sensor. I too was thinking of ordering TurbCAD from Ebay just because it's so cheap and it might be a nice long-term program to use. The Autocad I have is kind of a "loaner". Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 DO NOT ARCHIVE Jerry Grimmonpre wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net> > > Tim ... > Your batt install is the best use of airframe space I've seen. I also > like your strap hold-down idea. I'm using a nylon strap as well ... > secured with velcro on top of batt plus velcro between the strap on the > return fold. > > Question: > What program did you use to to draw your wiring diagram? Did you down > load the symbols from Aeroelectric? I just ordered TurboCAD from ebay > V9.2 ... > Thanks ... > Jerry Grimmonpre' > RV8A > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:06:44 AM PST US
    From: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection
    --> RV10-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com> William wrote: > >The requirement to crank the engine GREATLY increases > >with decreasing temperature. > > > >Therefore the larger wire size WILL help some. > > How so, as it relates to temperature? > > The original premise was that it may be fine at regular temperature > but not so in the cold. I only submit that if the performance is > sub-par at a lower temperature it will also be sub-par at normal > temperature. Thicker cable is indeed better-there is no debate there. > I only suggest that nothing with regard to the cable has any > dependency on the temperature. Certainly the lowered temperature has > an effect on the battery performance however. > > William Curtis > http://nerv10.com/ Guys, Guys. William finally go to the point. The difference between #2 and #4 and down into the 00s boils down to resistance. The resistance change with the temps we live in don't amount to a hill of beans .... old electrical term, believe me ..... but the battery does suffer due to low temperatures. When you're trying to push 200 or 250 or whatever cold cranking amps down that starter wire, that insignificant difference in resistance results in a major voltage drop change by the time you get to the starter. Having said that, if someone wants to plumb their bird with #10 house wire .... well, just have at it. Think of it as an experiment. Also, get some training on how to properly prop an airplane. (OSHA warning goes here :-D ) For myself, I like to use welding cable ..... far more flexible, less prone to vibration failures, and it's able to handle the current just fine. So what if I suffer a small weight penalty ..... I don't have to worry about starving my starter when I need it. JMHO Linn do not archive --


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    Time: 12:11:11 PM PST US
    Subject: RV10 Parts
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Zack - post the price and I'll bet your cousin with have two dozen orders in the first week. I am interested. John - KUAO ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Czachorowski Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Parts While building my RV10 tail kit, I came across several new ideas that many builders may be interested in. The first part that I wanted to "improve" was the trim tab cable weldment. I know the weldment included in the kit is OK, but I didn't like the "tack-weld" of the small nut. I had my nephew Dave (Rivethead-Aero.com) make me up a new part that replaces that weldment. It is made from 6061 aluminum billet and is set at the exact same angle as the steel weldment. It rivets on with 4 rivets as the other part. Dave said the aluminum part is three times stronger then Van's part. If you are interested in this part, let me know and I'll gask Dave to start pumping them out on his CNC. I can also email you a picture of it if interested. Also, if you are having problems cutting out the Horizontal Stab L brackets from the stock provided in the tail kit, again, Dave made me up 2 on the CNC. He cut the 9 holes on the one side and the 2 on the other. Needless to say, they lined up perfectly when mounted to the HS Stab spar. I have pictures to email interested. Zack zackrv8 at verizon.net <mailto:zackrv8@verizon.net>


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    Time: 12:40:07 PM PST US
    From: "Joseph Czachorowski" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
    Subject: RV10 Parts
    Deems, Pics on the way to you to post. Dave will post it to his site when he gets caught up on the CNC stuff he has going. Btw, he is also working on a hydro-formed one piece Trim Tab Access panel that will replace the existing one. This Trim Tab Cover will have a "fairing" on it that is integral (one piece) with the Trim Tab Cover. He will have one ready in a couple of weeks. I'll post when it is finished. Zack


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    Time: 12:54:13 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: RV10 Parts
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> Here's a link to pics of the items that Zack references, They are SWEET! http://deemsrv10.com/album/CNC%20Parts/index.html Deems Davis # 406 Wings http://deemsrv10.com/ Joseph Czachorowski wrote: > *Deems,* > ** > * Pics on the way to you to post. Dave will post it to his site when > he gets caught up on the CNC stuff he has going.* > ** > ** > * Btw, he is also working on a hydro-formed one piece Trim Tab Access > panel that will replace the existing one. This Trim Tab Cover will > have a "fairing" on it that is integral (one piece) with the Trim Tab > Cover. He will have one ready in a couple of weeks. I'll post when > it is finished.* > ** > > *Zack*


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    Time: 12:54:40 PM PST US
    From: "Bob" <bcondrey@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Negative Battery Cable Connection
    The real issue with increased wire size is decreased resistance. #4 copper wire has a resistance of .000249 ohms per foot, #2 has .000156 ohms per foot. These numbers are small, however with a high current draw (starter for example) it makes a huge difference. There's also internal battery resistance to take into account (.004 ohms is a typical value). Bottom line is that you WILL have voltage drop across the wire, how much is dependent on total resistance and current draw. When the temperature is really cold the battery has less capacity AND the engine is harder to turn. An excellent tutorial on the above is located at http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/wiresize.pdf Bob #40105


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    Time: 03:53:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Transition Training Plane - Builder of?
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Yep, no worries. Sent an email off to Martin to find out. I'm guessing Alex will probably be flying of the 40 hours pretty quick as training is one of his main gig's I believe. He's fairly well known in these parts and sells a lot of TT and other avionics stuff too. I don't personally know him but will probably use him also. Michael Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Transition Training Plane - Builder of? --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Thanks Michael, that's great to know. See if you can find out. If he built it himself, or with a reputable builder assist shop, then I would be very interested in zipping down sometime in the next month and a half maybe and getting a few hours in. I just want to "know the product" a bit. I'm sure you know exactly what I'm talking about. Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 DO NOT ARCHIVE RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > Hmm, I can't remember but I can probably find out. I do know it was a > respected builder assist shop. Alex is local to me down here (about > 15 miles as the crow flies) and my TC, Martin Sutter, had nothing but > good things to say about Alex and the shop that he built his at. If > you come down for training you are welcome to drop my shop and buck > some rivets ;-) > > > Michael Sausen -10 #352 Fuselage Do not archive > > ________________________________ > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson > Sent: Sat 1/7/2006 9:06 AM To: RV10 Subject: RV10-List: Transition > Training Plane - Builder of? > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > > Does anyone know who was involved in the building of Alex > DeDominicis's RV-10? I thought I had heard he was, but I want to make > sure. On the VAF site, they show the Nhys, DeDominicis, and TruTrak > RV-10's all lined up in a row, so they must not be too far from > eachother. > > I would be interested in traveling for a bit of transition training > soon, but as some of us discussed at OSH, I would have some concerns > if there were ties to one particular builder who's work we got to > inspect. There are certain planes I will not fly in, and certain > builders who I would not fly in their planes. From our offline > discussions at OSH, I'm sure many of you know what I mean. I just want > to make sure before I would try to get any transition training from > related parties. >


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    Time: 03:53:11 PM PST US
    Subject: RV10 Parts
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Oh ya, we can keep him busy. Tell him to expect many, many orders for the trim cable bracket, assuming they are reasonably priced. ;-) Michael Sausen -10 #352 fuselage do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Czachorowski Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Parts Deems, Pics on the way to you to post. Dave will post it to his site when he gets caught up on the CNC stuff he has going. Btw, he is also working on a hydro-formed one piece Trim Tab Access panel that will replace the existing one. This Trim Tab Cover will have a "fairing" on it that is integral (one piece) with the Trim Tab Cover. He will have one ready in a couple of weeks. I'll post when it is finished. Zack


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    Time: 06:59:34 PM PST US
    From: "Joseph Czachorowski" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
    Subject: RV10 Trim Tab Cable Anchor Brackets
    Guys, Dave will sell the Trim Tab Cable Anchor Bracket (replacement for the WD-415 that is supplied with the kit) for $15 a piece. I have installed these brackets on my Rv10 kit. Dave is an engineer and told me that these brackets are 3 times stronger than the steel weldment that Vans supplies in the kit. It also has more threads to grab the trim tab cable. It has a wider "footprint" than Vans weldment yet it still clears the Trim Tab cover plate doubler with no problem. 4 holes are pre drilled. Very easy to install. Made of 6061 aluminum. If you want a set, please call Dave at 302-437-6087. He can answer all your questions. Zack #40512


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    Time: 07:54:19 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: New Oil Cooler Shutter from Van's
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Useful? http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident1136692004-314-12&browsenew&productoil_shutter TDT 40025


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    Time: 09:27:13 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: New Oil Cooler Shutter from Van's
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I won't be buying one until maybe in the fall after it's flying, but it may very well be useful if you're flying up in the Michigan parts like you may. Not at all in the summer, but only winter. We had a plate on our last plane that got installed once the OAT was consistently under 40 degrees. It had about a 1.5" hole in the center, but otherwise the oil cooler air was blocked off. It greatly helped keep the operating temperature proper in the winter. Without it, the oil temp would never make it into the green, even after a full power climb. You really want that oil temp to get up to I think it's 185 degrees (don't quote me on that), or more, but that doesn't happen in the winter around here on some engines without the cooler flow restrictor. Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 DO NOT ARCHIVE Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: > Useful? > > http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1136692004-314-12&browse=new&product=oil_shutter > > TDT > 40025 >




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