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1. 03:00 AM - Re: Elevator Travel (James Hein)
2. 05:55 AM - Re: Pitot lines - paper of plastic? (steveadams)
3. 06:24 AM - Re: Elevator Travel (zackrv8)
4. 06:29 AM - Fuel Label / Placards (Tim Olson)
5. 06:38 AM - Re: Corrugated tubing for wire runs (zackrv8)
6. 07:23 AM - Re: Fuel Label / Placards (Deems Davis)
7. 07:59 AM - Re: The ultimate door latch (Rick)
8. 08:10 AM - Re: Fuel Label / Placards (Larry Rosen)
9. 08:29 AM - Re: Fuel Label / Placards (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
10. 08:40 AM - Re: Fuel Label / Placards (Tim Olson)
11. 08:53 AM - Re: Fuel Label / Placards (Tim Olson)
12. 09:30 AM - Gluing in the windows, yet again. (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
13. 09:43 AM - Re: Fuel Label / Placards (Wayne @ Engravers.net)
14. 10:48 AM - Pitot Check (Tim Olson)
15. 11:46 AM - Re: Pitot Check (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
16. 11:56 AM - Re: Pitot Check (John Jessen)
17. 12:20 PM - Re: Re: Elevator Travel (Eric Panning)
18. 01:05 PM - Re: Pitot Check (ddddsp1@juno.com)
19. 03:05 PM - Re: Fuel Label / Placards (NYTerminat@aol.com)
20. 03:13 PM - Re: Pitot Check (linn walters)
21. 03:46 PM - Re: Re: The ultimate door latch (Robert G. Wright)
22. 03:53 PM - Re: Fuel Label / Placards (Robert G. Wright)
23. 03:58 PM - Re: Pitot Check (Marcus Cooper)
24. 06:58 PM - Re: Pitot Check (Bobby J. Hughes)
25. 08:26 PM - Re: center console access (DejaVu)
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Travel |
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| Subject: | Re: Pitot lines - paper of plastic? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "steveadams" <dr_steve_adams@yahoo.com>
I have the Piper type heated pitot/static. Initially I ran tygon all the way to
the hookups on the pitot/static. On about my 3rd flight, after testing the pitot
heat at pre-flight, I accidently left it on. About 20 minutes into the flight
I lost airspeed because the tubing had melted. I replaced it with about 10
inch sections of aluminum tubing coming off the pitot/static and it has been
trouble free ever since.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=5222#5222
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Travel |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
Jim,
Oops. I meant the trailing edge of the trim tab. My plans says the trim tab
trailing edge goes down 35 degrees. Maybe it's there but I don't see it yet.
Zack
n8vim(at)arrl.net wrote:
> Zack,
> ??? Is this what you're looking for on page 11-2 of the plans? (Attached)
>
> -Jim 40384
>
>
> Joseph Czachorowski wrote:
> > ? I know the trailing edge of the elevator is supposed to go down
35 degrees.? How much is it supposed to go up ?
> > ?
> > Zack
> >
>
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RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
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| Subject: | Fuel Label / Placards |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Darn, I forgot to order my data plate and nameplate, along with
fuel quantity and type stickers.
I've got 2 questions:
If someone is home today near their wings, can I get a measurement
on the size of the hole around the fuel caps? I'm going to go
get some vinyl cut letters that say "100 LL - 60 US Gal" cut in
an arc around the fuel opening. I'd like to make the arc of the
letters only about 1/4 to 1/2" larger than the arc of the opening.
As for the dataplate, I know the regs require only this:
Per FAR 45.13 "Identification data" all that is required on the
(fireproof) data plate is (1) Builder's name, (2) Model designation, and
(3) Builder's serial number.
What about the nameplate?
I'm talking about this one at ACS p/n 09-33200
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06348.pdf
They have fields for:
Model:
Serial No.:
Empty Wt.:
Date of Mfg.:
Gross Wt.:
Engine:
H.P.:
Built by
Name:
Address:
City/State:
How much of that is required info? I don't have an empty wt. yet,
but if it wasn't required, I would just skip it.
Almost done in the cockpit, so it's some finishing touches
on the engine, wiring, doors, and then maybe wheel pants and
then it's going to the airport.
Tim
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Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Corrugated tubing for wire runs |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
Dean,
Try this tubing. It's called Tenite Butyrate. I have it in my RV8 and will
again use it in my RV10. Very lightweight and rigid yet flexible enough to bend
slightly if you have to. It is smooth inside and out and very inexpensive.
Try it. I think you will like it. Link below.
Zack
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=usplastic&category%5Fname=78&product%5Fid=4905
ddddsp1(at)juno.com wrote:
> Some time back there was a thread on running bigger corrugated tubing for wire
runs vs what Vans sells.? I heard from John Stewart that NAPA sold some that
was corrugated on the outside and smooth on the inside.? I was unable to get
my area NAPA stores to locate it in their catalogs.? I did find some at EARL MAY
garden centers.? They use it for plumbing ponds/landscaping.? It is KINK FREE,?has
better temp. range?and smooth inside for ease of fishing wires through.?I
may try some of the 1/2" I.D. tubing and see how it works although it took
me a few days to locate this size............... difficult to find.? The size
is actually metric but they use U.S. measurements so it is slightly larger than
1/2 I.D.
> Dean
> Closing fuse floors
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RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Label / Placards |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Tim, just went out and measured, the diameter of the fuel cap opening in
wing is 2 5/16" diameter.
Deems Davis # 406
Wings
http://deemsrv10.com/
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Darn, I forgot to order my data plate and nameplate, along with
> fuel quantity and type stickers.
>
> I've got 2 questions:
>
> If someone is home today near their wings, can I get a measurement
> on the size of the hole around the fuel caps? I'm going to go
> get some vinyl cut letters that say "100 LL - 60 US Gal" cut in
> an arc around the fuel opening. I'd like to make the arc of the
> letters only about 1/4 to 1/2" larger than the arc of the opening.
>
> As for the dataplate, I know the regs require only this:
> Per FAR 45.13 "Identification data" all that is required on the
> (fireproof) data plate is (1) Builder's name, (2) Model designation,
> and (3) Builder's serial number.
>
> What about the nameplate?
> I'm talking about this one at ACS p/n 09-33200
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06348.pdf
>
> They have fields for:
> Model:
> Serial No.:
> Empty Wt.:
> Date of Mfg.:
> Gross Wt.:
> Engine:
> H.P.:
> Built by
> Name:
> Address:
> City/State:
>
> How much of that is required info? I don't have an empty wt. yet,
> but if it wasn't required, I would just skip it.
>
> Almost done in the cockpit, so it's some finishing touches
> on the engine, wiring, doors, and then maybe wheel pants and
> then it's going to the airport.
> Tim
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| Subject: | Re: The ultimate door latch |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
I thought the battle axe was "sitting" in the right seat... ;)
Rick S.
40185
Fuselage with two operating doors, from inside and out.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Label / Placards |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Tim,
I believe you want the volume of each tank identified by the fuel
opening "30 U.S. Gal. 100 LL" not the volume of both tanks.
Another option in lieu of vinyl cut letters is to have the fuel cap
engraved. Dan C did it that way. He used Bill Esther. Here is the
link to the fuel caps on Dan's site
<http://www.rvproject.com/esther_engraving.html>
Another engraving source is here
<http://www.engravers.net/main/ac_products.htm> they have both fuel caps
and data plates and other engraved products.
Vans has a "Vans Air force" data plate. But you probably already know that.
Larry Rosen
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> ... I'm going to go
> get some vinyl cut letters that say "100 LL - 60 US Gal" cut in
>
> As for the dataplate, I know the regs require only this:
> ...
> I'm talking about this one at ACS p/n 09-33200
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06348.pdf
>
> ...
> Tim
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| Subject: | Fuel Label / Placards |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
There's no requirement for labeling the fuel cap, is there? My
understanding was there was just the requirement for labeling the fuel
selector inside. I guess I could go look that up . . .
TDT
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Label / Placards
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Tim,
I believe you want the volume of each tank identified by the fuel
opening "30 U.S. Gal. 100 LL" not the volume of both tanks.
Another option in lieu of vinyl cut letters is to have the fuel cap
engraved. Dan C did it that way. He used Bill Esther. Here is the
link to the fuel caps on Dan's site
<http://www.rvproject.com/esther_engraving.html>
Another engraving source is here
<http://www.engravers.net/main/ac_products.htm> they have both fuel caps
and data plates and other engraved products.
Vans has a "Vans Air force" data plate. But you probably already know
that.
Larry Rosen
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> ... I'm going to go
> get some vinyl cut letters that say "100 LL - 60 US Gal" cut in
>
> As for the dataplate, I know the regs require only this:
> ...
> I'm talking about this one at ACS p/n 09-33200
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06348.pdf
>
> ...
> Tim
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Label / Placards |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Good point. I actually drew it up that way but when I wrote the
email I messed up my thinking again. Yes...30 per side.
I think the engraving would be perfect...I just want to get
the vinyl for now because it's temporary and quick. I
don't want to send out the fuel caps and have a delay on flying.
Plus, my caps are currently painted and would need stripping.
Yep, I did know about the VAF data plate. I actually think
I'll maybe get the aircraft spruce version instead,
p/n 09-40000 AIRCRAFT ID PLATE EXPERIMENTAL from Aircraft
Spruce. It's 1x3" and doesn't have places for the fields
that I wouldn't want to fill. My main concern right now is
finding which place I can order from who includes engraving
and can ship it out relatively quickly.
The name plate though, I think is a separate requirement, inside
the cockpit, right? So that's the one that I'm worried
most about today. Can't figure out what that one all requires.
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Larry Rosen wrote:
> Tim,
> I believe you want the volume of each tank identified by the fuel
> opening "30 U.S. Gal. 100 LL" not the volume of both tanks.
>
> Another option in lieu of vinyl cut letters is to have the fuel cap
> engraved. Dan C did it that way. He used Bill Esther. Here is the
> link to the fuel caps on Dan's site
> <http://www.rvproject.com/esther_engraving.html>
>
> Another engraving source is here
> <http://www.engravers.net/main/ac_products.htm> they have both fuel caps
> and data plates and other engraved products.
>
> Vans has a "Vans Air force" data plate. But you probably already know
> that.
>
> Larry Rosen
> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> ... I'm going to go
>> get some vinyl cut letters that say "100 LL - 60 US Gal" cut in
>>
>> As for the dataplate, I know the regs require only this:
>> ...
>> I'm talking about this one at ACS p/n 09-33200
>> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06348.pdf
>>
>> ...
>> Tim
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Label / Placards |
I'm not 100% sure it's a requirment or not, but I believe that it's
one of the things the inspectors look for. A label near the fuel
filler opening (or on the cap) that says the quantity and type
of fuel. Makes sense, since fuel related problems are one of the
largest causes of accidents. I know in my Beech, the POH actually
had pages with all of the required placards on it, and they
had a nice one that went by the filler necks.
I attached what I plan to use. Randy or one of the other people
flying may be able to tell you what they found/heard.
Tim
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> There's no requirement for labeling the fuel cap, is there? My
> understanding was there was just the requirement for labeling the fuel
> selector inside. I guess I could go look that up . . .
>
> TDT
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:11 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com; Tim Olson
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Label / Placards
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> Tim,
> I believe you want the volume of each tank identified by the fuel
> opening "30 U.S. Gal. 100 LL" not the volume of both tanks.
>
> Another option in lieu of vinyl cut letters is to have the fuel cap
> engraved. Dan C did it that way. He used Bill Esther. Here is the
> link to the fuel caps on Dan's site
> <http://www.rvproject.com/esther_engraving.html>
>
> Another engraving source is here
> <http://www.engravers.net/main/ac_products.htm> they have both fuel caps
>
> and data plates and other engraved products.
>
> Vans has a "Vans Air force" data plate. But you probably already know
> that.
>
> Larry Rosen
> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>
>
>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>>... I'm going to go
>>get some vinyl cut letters that say "100 LL - 60 US Gal" cut in
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>>As for the dataplate, I know the regs require only this:
>>...
>>I'm talking about this one at ACS p/n 09-33200
>>http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06348.pdf
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>>Tim
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| Subject: | Gluing in the windows, yet again. |
Ok, I know alternatives have been discussed before but I can't find anything
on using sikaflex for the -10 in the archives. With all the chatter about it
over in the main RV List I was wondering if anyone is using it on the -10 windows
instead of the standard Weld On 10 stuff? Seems like it may be a good alternative.
Downside is you need to hold the whole thing in place for 24 hours.
Thoughts?
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
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| From: | "Wayne @ Engravers.net" <wayne@engravers.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel Label / Placards |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Wayne @ Engravers.net" <wayne@engravers.net>
Tim,
Try http://engravers.net/aircraft/fuel_caps.htm to see if you would prefer
to have the fuel caps engraved directly.
Wayne Cahoon
Aircraft Engravers
(860) 653-2780
(860) 653-7324 Fax
http://www.engravers.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Label / Placards
> I'm not 100% sure it's a requirment or not, but I believe that it's
> one of the things the inspectors look for. A label near the fuel
> filler opening (or on the cap) that says the quantity and type
> of fuel. Makes sense, since fuel related problems are one of the
> largest causes of accidents. I know in my Beech, the POH actually
> had pages with all of the required placards on it, and they
> had a nice one that went by the filler necks.
>
> I attached what I plan to use. Randy or one of the other people
> flying may be able to tell you what they found/heard.
> Tim
>
>
> Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
>> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>>
>>
>> There's no requirement for labeling the fuel cap, is there? My
>> understanding was there was just the requirement for labeling the fuel
>> selector inside. I guess I could go look that up . . .
>>
>> TDT
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
>> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:11 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com; Tim Olson
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Label / Placards
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>>
>> Tim,
>> I believe you want the volume of each tank identified by the fuel
>> opening "30 U.S. Gal. 100 LL" not the volume of both tanks.
>>
>> Another option in lieu of vinyl cut letters is to have the fuel cap
>> engraved. Dan C did it that way. He used Bill Esther. Here is the
>> link to the fuel caps on Dan's site
>> <http://www.rvproject.com/esther_engraving.html>
>>
>> Another engraving source is here
>> <http://www.engravers.net/main/ac_products.htm> they have both fuel caps
>>
>> and data plates and other engraved products.
>>
>> Vans has a "Vans Air force" data plate. But you probably already know
>> that.
>>
>> Larry Rosen
>> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
>>
>> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
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>>>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>>
>>>... I'm going to go
>>>get some vinyl cut letters that say "100 LL - 60 US Gal" cut in
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>>>As for the dataplate, I know the regs require only this:
>>>...
>>>I'm talking about this one at ACS p/n 09-33200
>>>http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06348.pdf
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>>>Tim
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just checked with my on-field FBO. They no longer do pitot
static checks, and they always have rented scales for W&B but
the guy they rented from no longer works at the other FBO so
they don't know that they can rent them anymore.
Is it true that a builder can do their on VFR pitot check, and
then perhaps during/after the flyoff I could fly to a neighboring
airport to get a full IFR pitot check?
And scales....what are others planning to do about scales?
Are these something you can usually find locally to rent?
Tim
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Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Have you checked with your local EAA chapters? They are usually your best source
of information for this. I believe my chapter has scales they loan out when
my time comes. Worth the yearly chapter fees alone!
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:47 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Pitot Check
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just checked with my on-field FBO. They no longer do pitot static checks, and
they always have rented scales for W&B but the guy they rented from no longer
works at the other FBO so they don't know that they can rent them anymore.
Is it true that a builder can do their on VFR pitot check, and then perhaps during/after
the flyoff I could fly to a neighboring airport to get a full IFR pitot
check?
And scales....what are others planning to do about scales?
Are these something you can usually find locally to rent?
Tim
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Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Scales at your local EAA chapter?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 10:47 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Pitot Check
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just checked with my on-field FBO. They no longer do pitot static checks,
and they always have rented scales for W&B but the guy they rented from no
longer works at the other FBO so they don't know that they can rent them
anymore.
Is it true that a builder can do their on VFR pitot check, and then perhaps
during/after the flyoff I could fly to a neighboring airport to get a full
IFR pitot check?
And scales....what are others planning to do about scales?
Are these something you can usually find locally to rent?
Tim
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Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Travel |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
This is what I measured on Randy's plane (See also my
message on control throws from January 6th)
Also measured elevator and trim travel.
Elevator: Full up 4.9 degrees above horizontal plane
Full down 33.2 degrees below horizontal
plane
Trim tab (left):
Full down: 22 degrees down relative to trailing edge
of elevator
Full up: 6.4 degrees above relative to " " " "
Trim tab (right):
Full down: 21 degress down " " " " "
Full up: 27.1 degrees up " " " " "
Note: Full up travel is very different for L vs R tab.
Eric
--- zackrv8 <zackrv8@verizon.net> wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8"
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> Jim,
>
> Oops. I meant the trailing edge of the trim tab.
> My plans says the trim tab trailing edge goes down
> 35 degrees. Maybe it's there but I don't see it
> yet.
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> Zack
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> n8vim(at)arrl.net wrote:
> > Zack,
> > ??? Is this what you're looking for on page 11-2
> of the plans? (Attached)
> >
> > -Jim 40384
> >
> >
> > Joseph Czachorowski wrote:
> > > ? I know the trailing edge of the
> elevator is supposed to go down 35 degrees.? How
> much is it supposed to go up ?
> > > ?
> > > Zack
> > >
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Tim,
If you have any friends that RACE stock cars or sprints they will have portable
scales that will work to weigh your plane.
DEAN
Tim,
If you have any friends that RACE stock cars or sprints they will have portable
scales that will work to weigh your plane.
DEAN
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Label / Placards |
I just had a DAR inspection on my Zenith, he wanted fuel quantity and type at
the filler opening of each tank and also a fuel quantity label at my gauges.
For those not using gauges and using the engine monitor there must be a way of
showing the quantity. I. D. Data plate does not require empty weight.
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 1/19/2006 11:55:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
I'm not 100% sure it's a requirment or not, but I believe that it's
one of the things the inspectors look for. A label near the fuel
filler opening (or on the cap) that says the quantity and type
of fuel. Makes sense, since fuel related problems are one of the
largest causes of accidents. I know in my Beech, the POH actually
had pages with all of the required placards on it, and they
had a nice one that went by the filler necks.
I attached what I plan to use. Randy or one of the other people
flying may be able to tell you what they found/heard.
Tim
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--> RV10-List message posted by: linn walters <lwalters2@cfl.rr.com>
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I just checked with my on-field FBO. They no longer do pitot
> static checks, and they always have rented scales for W&B but
> the guy they rented from no longer works at the other FBO so
> they don't know that they can rent them anymore.
>
> Is it true that a builder can do their on VFR pitot check, and
> then perhaps during/after the flyoff I could fly to a neighboring
> airport to get a full IFR pitot check?
I believe that is true, but you need to check a mor authoritative source!!!
>
>
> And scales....what are others planning to do about scales?
> Are these something you can usually find locally to rent?
If you can't find suitable scales that go to 600 Lbs or so, you can take
two standard bathroom scales and lay them side-by-side with appropriate
material to bridge over the scales. The wheel contact area needs to be
in the center between the scales.
If you cannot round up the number of scales, then you can use the
'fulcrum' method. Picture a 2X4 exactly horizontal, with one end on the
scale and the other on the floor. Position the wheel so that the
distance from the wheel to the scale point is multiples of the wheel to
the floor point. Do the math.
Linn
do not archive
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>
> Tim
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| Subject: | Re: The ultimate door latch |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
We all just need to be penny wise and pound foolish and buy a hangar! If
the hangar's locked, the plane's safe. When you go somewhere, always demand
hangar space and pay the outrageous hangar price!
I was thinking any of these aftermarket items were too expensive until I had
the hangar thought...
Rob (where's my tongue? Oh, my cheek...)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:01 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: The ultimate door latch
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
I think what everyone need to admit is that the basic problem is that we all
NEED to have door locks no matter what country one lives in. What does that
say!!!!!
There are people everywhere in this world that have sub par moral values.
Lets agree on that. The bottom line...we are all human beings, we are all
brothers and sisters. Those who think diffferently need to get inside their
RV 10s, lock the door and throw away the key.
I have never had problems sending money over seas, Germany, Lithuania,
Holland. I have sent a lot more money overseas more than the cost of the
car, bicycle, skateboard, etc. that were stolen from me here in the states.
I am not a bleeding heart liberal, just a realist.
J Gonzalez, 40409
Malibu, California
>From: "Henkjan van der Zouw" <henkjan@zme.nl>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: The ultimate door latch
>Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:38:33 +0100
>
>I own a small precision machining company in Holland and the kind of
>messages as the latest below triggers me to make a post and keeps me
>from developing parts like a doorlock and sell it for use by other
>builders also, I will however design a doorlock for my own project
>because it's a necessity over here, if there are people who don't have
>problems paying money outside the USA, as for myself, I have to buy most
>of the parts outside my country (read USA) and being interested in
>having affordable doorlocks (say 100 till 150 Euro per set) they can
>contact me, the more I can make the cheaper they will be.
>
>
>Henkjan van der Zouw 40355
>
>
>Sorry for the somewhat strong words but there still are honest people
>around..
>
>
>www.zme.nl <http://www.zme.nl/>
>
>
>http://www.kitlog.com/users/index.php?user=phzme
><http://www.kitlog.com/users/index.php?user=phzme&project=1> &project=1
>
>
>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>Van: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] Namens David McNeill
>Verzonden: woensdag 18 januari 2006 2:46
>Aan: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Onderwerp: Re: RV10-List: Re: The ultimate door latch
>
>
>Other than being pricey; sending the money beyond USA borders is risky ;
>Ask the people who have dealt with the Subaru engine supplier in Canada.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>From: William <mailto:wcurtis@core.com>
>
>To: RV10-List@matronics.com
>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:28 PM
>
>Subject: RV10-List: Re: The ultimate door latch
>
>
> >Those are awesome. A little pricey but not much when you
> >compare it to the total cost of the project, I guess.
>
>Yes, when you consider the total cost of the project it amounts to only
>about 1/2 of 1% of the final cost. Percentage wise, this is high for
>such a component. Looking at it that way it is small, however US$350 per
>side, $700 per plane without a lock is a bit pricey IMHO. Maybe door
>handles for Mooneys are as pricey, but there is the added burden of
>certification. Just as a comparison, a certified Andair fuel valve is
>about $300.
>
>I don't doubt that this hardware is of high quality, however worth it?
>Some will think so, but I think many will not.
>
>William Curtis
>http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>
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| Subject: | Fuel Label / Placards |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
Well, let's see. It's an experimental airplane:
Empty Wt can change depending on installed components
Gross Wt can change if you include mods that allow (tip tanks, etc) for it.
Engine/H.P. _could_ change in the future
Address/City/State: You _could_ move or base somewhere else.
Granted, some of the above might precipitate a new Phase I for flight
characteristic changes, but as an OBAM, you know you're not bound to a TC.
I'd only include the required plus any item that you _know_ won't change.
Date of Manuf. could be a good one.
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Label / Placards
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Darn, I forgot to order my data plate and nameplate, along with
fuel quantity and type stickers.
I've got 2 questions:
If someone is home today near their wings, can I get a measurement
on the size of the hole around the fuel caps? I'm going to go
get some vinyl cut letters that say "100 LL - 60 US Gal" cut in
an arc around the fuel opening. I'd like to make the arc of the
letters only about 1/4 to 1/2" larger than the arc of the opening.
As for the dataplate, I know the regs require only this:
Per FAR 45.13 "Identification data" all that is required on the
(fireproof) data plate is (1) Builder's name, (2) Model designation, and
(3) Builder's serial number.
What about the nameplate?
I'm talking about this one at ACS p/n 09-33200
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06348.pdf
They have fields for:
Model:
Serial No.:
Empty Wt.:
Date of Mfg.:
Gross Wt.:
Engine:
H.P.:
Built by
Name:
Address:
City/State:
How much of that is required info? I don't have an empty wt. yet,
but if it wasn't required, I would just skip it.
Almost done in the cockpit, so it's some finishing touches
on the engine, wiring, doors, and then maybe wheel pants and
then it's going to the airport.
Tim
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
Tim,
The only pitot/static check that is required is for the transponder
altitude reporting. Therefore, if you don't have a mode C requirement where
you are going to do your testing then there is no test required. The Mode C
XPDR requirement is for VFR or IFR.
Marcus
40286
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Pitot Check
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just checked with my on-field FBO. They no longer do pitot
static checks, and they always have rented scales for W&B but
the guy they rented from no longer works at the other FBO so
they don't know that they can rent them anymore.
Is it true that a builder can do their on VFR pitot check, and
then perhaps during/after the flyoff I could fly to a neighboring
airport to get a full IFR pitot check?
And scales....what are others planning to do about scales?
Are these something you can usually find locally to rent?
Tim
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Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>
At our local EAA meeting mid last year a DAR gave a talk on new rules.
One was if the plane had a transponder it had to be tested with
documents before phase 1 started.
Bobby
40116
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Pitot Check
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
Tim,
The only pitot/static check that is required is for the transponder
altitude reporting. Therefore, if you don't have a mode C requirement
where you are going to do your testing then there is no test required.
The Mode C XPDR requirement is for VFR or IFR.
Marcus
40286
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Pitot Check
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just checked with my on-field FBO. They no longer do pitot static
checks, and they always have rented scales for W&B but the guy they
rented from no longer works at the other FBO so they don't know that
they can rent them anymore.
Is it true that a builder can do their on VFR pitot check, and then
perhaps during/after the flyoff I could fly to a neighboring airport to
get a full IFR pitot check?
And scales....what are others planning to do about scales?
Are these something you can usually find locally to rent?
Tim
--
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: center console access |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
Regarding the flap control rod panels preventing installation of the front
seats, I thought about shaving just a tad off of the upper side of the white
bushing blocks that are inside of the seat rails, or rounding these upper
corners a bit may allow the seats to move forward and drop down. Just a
thought, I haven't done it yet.
Anh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:07 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: center console access
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
>
> I AGREE Jesse! Removing the panels to get the seat out is a pain. Let
> me know if you come up with a easy solution and I will do the same.
> Randy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 1:47 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: center console access
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> David,
>
> We actually have cut the tunnel covers in two places, but one is forward
> of
> the panel and hidden by our breaker/switch console (we had to have a
> place
> to run wires down into the tunnel) and the other is between the seats
> under
> our arm rest (again, mainly to run cables for headsets and rear seat
> power).
> I think the rear section of the back panel can be removed without
> removing
> the seats and both of the front sections can be removed.
>
> Speaking of which, is it not annoying to anyone else that you have to
> remove
> the flap control rod cover to remove the seats? About another 1/2"
> would
> make the difference. That drives me crazy, as we have had to remove the
> seat a number of times to add stuff under the panel (a guy my size
> doesn't
> fit under the panel without removing the seat - if I want to be able to
> walk
> afterwards).
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC,
> please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to
> me,
> please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it
> has
> voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:55 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: center console access
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
>
> Anyone addressed the problem of removal of the center tunnel access
> after
> the seats are in place. As the design currently exists, removing the
> center
> covers requires removing the front seats to inspect the center tunnel.
> clearance for four fasteners is grossly insufficient as designed.
>
>
>
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