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1. 04:55 AM - Re: Proseal (John W. Cox)
2. 06:42 AM - Re: Fuel Label / Placards (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
3. 07:39 AM - Re: Leading edge splice strip (Darton Steve)
4. 07:48 AM - Re: Proseal (John Jessen)
5. 08:19 AM - Re: Proseal (John Jessen)
6. 09:04 AM - Re: Leading edge splice strip (John Hasbrouck)
7. 02:30 PM - Wing Storage Rack (Albert Gardner)
8. 02:51 PM - Re: Wing Storage Rack (Tim Olson)
9. 03:25 PM - Re: Insurance quote (Marcus Cooper)
10. 04:27 PM - Re: Wing Storage Rack (Albert Gardner)
11. 05:29 PM - Re: Leading edge splice strip (Chris)
12. 05:55 PM - Re: Wing Storage Rack (Larry Rosen)
13. 06:57 PM - Re: Elevator Travel (zackrv8)
14. 07:27 PM - Re: Wing Storage Rack (Tim Olson)
15. 08:05 PM - Re: Pitot Check (Robert G. Wright)
16. 08:38 PM - Re: Leading edge splice strip (Darton Steve)
17. 08:49 PM - Re: Pitot Check (Tim Olson)
18. 09:13 PM - Scott S. Transition Training post on VAF (Larry Rosen)
19. 10:08 PM - Re: Re: Elevator Travel (DejaVu)
20. 10:13 PM - Re: Insurance quote (DejaVu)
21. 11:02 PM - Aircraft Extras Flap Positioning System - Ray Allen Position Sensor installation? (Larry Rosen)
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Jim's attachment of the treatise by Paul Trotter is a definitive report
and should be kept as a quick reference document for all of the
builders.
Additionally attached are two spec sheets on PRC 1826B and PRC 1422B
sealants. FlameMaster (VANs) meets the same MILSPEC requirements. The
1826 is fuel tank sealant and the 1422 would be more appropriate for
panel attachment, firewall to skin attachment. The B denotes extrudable
consistency. If you value either Burraway deburring bits or a pneumatic
rivet squeezer, you have to get a surplus Semco pneumatic gun with 6 oz.
nose.
The above sealants are a real bitch to remove, as they have an extremely
high cohesion factor, once cured to specification.
John - KUAO
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Proseal
Hey all,
I have attached the PDF documentation which includes the cure times for
Proseal on page 2.
For the 1/2 hour stuff (B1/2), it's 45 hours at 77F, 50% RH.
For the 2 hour stuff (B2), it's 112 hours at 77F, 50% RH
-Jim
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| Subject: | Fuel Label / Placards |
You could do something like this instead. I did this on my
RV-9A and also had the N number on it in the middle.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Label / Placards
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Darn, I forgot to order my data plate and nameplate, along with
fuel quantity and type stickers.
I've got 2 questions:
If someone is home today near their wings, can I get a measurement
on the size of the hole around the fuel caps? I'm going to go
get some vinyl cut letters that say "100 LL - 60 US Gal" cut in
an arc around the fuel opening. I'd like to make the arc of the
letters only about 1/4 to 1/2" larger than the arc of the opening.
As for the dataplate, I know the regs require only this:
Per FAR 45.13 "Identification data" all that is required on the
(fireproof) data plate is (1) Builder's name, (2) Model designation, and
(3) Builder's serial number.
What about the nameplate?
I'm talking about this one at ACS p/n 09-33200
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/pdf/catalog/Cat06348.pdf
They have fields for:
Model:
Serial No.:
Empty Wt.:
Date of Mfg.:
Gross Wt.:
Engine:
H.P.:
Built by
Name:
Address:
City/State:
How much of that is required info? I don't have an empty wt. yet,
but if it wasn't required, I would just skip it.
Almost done in the cockpit, so it's some finishing touches
on the engine, wiring, doors, and then maybe wheel pants and
then it's going to the airport.
Tim
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| Subject: | Leading edge splice strip |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com>
To all completed wing builders,
I just clecoed the outboard leading edge onto the main
spar. The aft most rivet shop head of the aft nut
plate is resting on the spar cap and will rub. It
deflects the end of the splice outward about the
thickness of the shop head. Should I make a double
flush rivet to eliminate the shop head for this
interference area? Did any one else have this issue if
so how did you resolve it?
Steve wings 40212
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Some day I'd like to meet in person and take a look at you project. I'm
building out at Lenhardt's. We have 3 RV-10s building out there, all
hangered next to each other, plus Randy's finished plane behind us. Where
are you building?
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 4:52 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Proseal
Jim's attachment of the treatise by Paul Trotter is a definitive report and
should be kept as a quick reference document for all of the builders.
Additionally attached are two spec sheets on PRC 1826B and PRC 1422B
sealants. FlameMaster (VANs) meets the same MILSPEC requirements. The
1826 is fuel tank sealant and the 1422 would be more appropriate for panel
attachment, firewall to skin attachment. The B denotes extrudable
consistency. If you value either Burraway deburring bits or a pneumatic
rivet squeezer, you have to get a surplus Semco pneumatic gun with 6 oz.
nose.
The above sealants are a real bitch to remove, as they have an extremely
high cohesion factor, once cured to specification.
John - KUAO
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Proseal
Hey all,
I have attached the PDF documentation which includes the cure times for
Proseal on page 2.
For the 1/2 hour stuff (B1/2), it's 45 hours at 77F, 50% RH.
For the 2 hour stuff (B2), it's 112 hours at 77F, 50% RH
-Jim
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Whoops! Didn't mean for this to go to the entire list. Sorry fellas. Just
trying to meet the great John W.
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:45 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Proseal
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Some day I'd like to meet in person and take a look at you project. I'm
building out at Lenhardt's. We have 3 RV-10s building out there, all
hangered next to each other, plus Randy's finished plane behind us. Where
are you building?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 4:52 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Proseal
Jim's attachment of the treatise by Paul Trotter is a definitive report and
should be kept as a quick reference document for all of the builders.
Additionally attached are two spec sheets on PRC 1826B and PRC 1422B
sealants. FlameMaster (VANs) meets the same MILSPEC requirements. The
1826 is fuel tank sealant and the 1422 would be more appropriate for panel
attachment, firewall to skin attachment. The B denotes extrudable
consistency. If you value either Burraway deburring bits or a pneumatic
rivet squeezer, you have to get a surplus Semco pneumatic gun with 6 oz.
nose.
The above sealants are a real bitch to remove, as they have an extremely
high cohesion factor, once cured to specification.
John - KUAO
Do not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Proseal
Hey all,
I have attached the PDF documentation which includes the cure times for
Proseal on page 2.
For the 1/2 hour stuff (B1/2), it's 45 hours at 77F, 50% RH.
For the 2 hour stuff (B2), it's 112 hours at 77F, 50% RH
-Jim
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge splice strip |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
Steve,
I had same problem and simply set the rivet in the nutplate a little more
to flatten the shop head.
John Hasbrouck
#40264
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| Subject: | Wing Storage Rack |
I saw a picture of a wing storage rack on some builders web page and made
one like it. It's really quite handy but I can't find the source. Since it
works so well, if anyone knows where it came from perhaps they'd post it for
others to copy as well. It turns out to be about the same height as the
plastic sawhorses I got from Home Depot and that makes it easy to move the
wings apart to work on the insides. I don't have the leading edges and tanks
on yet so I put a 2x4 in instead of the carpet loop to support the spar.
Thanks to someone for a really good idea.
Albert Gardner
40422 Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Storage Rack |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
That looks pretty similar to mine, but better built. ;)
Tim
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Albert Gardner wrote:
> I saw a picture of a wing storage rack on some builders web page and made
> one like it. It's really quite handy but I can't find the source. Since it
> works so well, if anyone knows where it came from perhaps they'd post it for
> others to copy as well. It turns out to be about the same height as the
> plastic sawhorses I got from Home Depot and that makes it easy to move the
> wings apart to work on the insides. I don't have the leading edges and tanks
> on yet so I put a 2x4 in instead of the carpet loop to support the spar.
> Thanks to someone for a really good idea.
> Albert Gardner
> 40422 Yuma, AZ
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
FWIW I had ground coverage only on my first two airplanes, a Q-2 and a
Skybolt. I figured I didn't have that much in them and if I totaled the
machine I wouldn't be needing the money anyway. Morbid, but honest. On my
RV-6 I figured I had a lot more in the airplane, around $42,000, and decided
to opt for full coverage. I'm about as cheap as they get, buy I am thankful
I didn't short change myself this time. I had a catastrophic engine failure
due to an improperly overhauled engine and had to deadstick into unfriendly
terrain. That extra insurance was worth every cent at that point.
My thought is that as much as I hate to pay for insurance, I can't afford
not to with these over $100K airplanes.
Marcus
40286
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:29 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Insurance quote
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
I went with ground and taxi from AIG at 2100.00 year. With 250 total
hours and 100+ hours in the 10 and no instrument rating. My quote for
full flight was bout 3100.00 for 150,000 coverage. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Insurance quote
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
One thing you might want to ask, which I was told when I was shopping
for Builder's Insurance, was that the EAA plan did NOT cover
transportation. In other words, when I was moving my $$$ project by
trailer from garage to hanger, it was not covered. Just what I was
told.
-Sean #40303
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
<Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> I talked to EAA insurance last year and they wanted some ungodly
number
> of total hours, if I remember . . .
>
> TDT
> 40025
> Do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillips,
> Jack
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:12 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Insurance quote
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack"
> <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
>
> Did you try Falcon Insurance through the EAA? I have the insurance on
> my Pietenpol and my RV-4 with them. Their price is comparable to AIG,
> but there is no deductible and you are covered in anything you fly
(that
> you are qualified to fly) up to the value of your hull insurance. I
use
> the $50,000 coverage on my RV-4 to allow me to fly a friend's 1934
> Fairchild 22 and have full insurance coverage.
>
> Also, Falcon only required me to have 2 hours dual in the RV-4.
>
> Jack Phillips
> Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP
> Van's RV-4 N18LR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:29 AM
> To: RV10
> Subject: RV10-List: Insurance quote
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Just wanted to pass on my recent quote. I listed 450 hours TT, which
is
> a little lower than actual. This is with a private and instrument
> rating, and the instrument is usually good for a discount.
> The quote is also for a hangered RV-10.
>
> $160K hull value full coverage $3,357 from AIG, requires 5 hours
> dual and 10 hours solo. Reduced limits during the flyoff.
>
> $160K hull value full coverage $6,850 from Global, requires 10
> hours dual with Mike Seager in ANOTHER RV-10 prior to solo
> operation of my RV-10. ** Interesting that they specified
> exactly who the transition trainer must be.
>
> It's also interesting to note that if I were to fly off the time,
> and then apply for the insurance, the quote would likely be less,
> as I'd have 25 hours in Make and Model, plus in my case I'd have
> more HP time.
>
> Just passing along my quoted info.
>
>
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| Subject: | Wing Storage Rack |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
The originator of this wing rack also had the dimensions listed for it so it
was a snap to build out of scrap 2/4's. Had to buy 2 10 foot boards but the
remainder were 28 inches or shorter. Looks like yours Tim, did the idea come
from you? It's a great one.
Albert Gardner
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge splice strip |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris" <toaster73@earthlink.net>
Ditto - I smushed the shop head right on down - its just a nut plate.
Chris Lucas
#40072
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Leading edge splice strip
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
>
> Steve,
> I had same problem and simply set the rivet in the nutplate a little
> more to flatten the shop head.
>
> John Hasbrouck
> #40264
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Storage Rack |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
They wingstand design keeps evolving . You may have gotten the
dimensions from my site here
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/WingStand/index.html>. My origin
was dimensions from Tim Olson, who modified the design from Dan
Checkoway, who modified plans I am sure from someone. Why reinvent the
wheel.
Albert, If you email me photos and some commentary on your modifications
or suggestions on how you would do it different next time, I will post
them on my website. Email me at larryrosen@comcast.net
Larry Rosen
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
Albert Gardner wrote:
>I saw a picture of a wing storage rack on some builders web page and made
>one like it. It's really quite handy but I can't find the source. Since it
>works so well, if anyone knows where it came from perhaps they'd post it for
>others to copy as well. It turns out to be about the same height as the
>plastic sawhorses I got from Home Depot and that makes it easy to move the
>wings apart to work on the insides. I don't have the leading edges and tanks
>on yet so I put a 2x4 in instead of the carpet loop to support the spar.
>Thanks to someone for a really good idea.
>Albert Gardner
>40422 Yuma, AZ
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Travel |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
Thanks Eric!!
ericmpmail-rv10(at)yahoo. wrote:
> This is what I measured on Randy's plane (See also my
> message on control throws from January 6th)
>
> Also measured elevator and trim travel.
>
> Elevator: Full up 4.9 degrees above horizontal plane
> Full down 33.2 degrees below horizontal
> plane
>
> Trim tab (left):
> Full down: 22 degrees down relative to trailing edge
> of elevator
> Full up: 6.4 degrees above relative to " " " "
>
> Trim tab (right):
> Full down: 21 degress down " " " " "
> Full up: 27.1 degrees up " " " " "
>
> Note: Full up travel is very different for L vs R tab.
>
> Eric
>
>
> --- zackrv8 wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Oops. I meant the trailing edge of the trim tab.
> > My plans says the trim tab trailing edge goes down
> > 35 degrees. Maybe it's there but I don't see it
> > yet.
> >
> > Zack
> >
> >
> >
> > n8vim(at)arrl.net wrote:
> > > Zack,
> > > ??? Is this what you're looking for on page 11-2
> > of the plans? (Attached)
> > >
> > > -Jim 40384
> > >
> > >
> > > Joseph Czachorowski wrote:
> > > > ? I know the trailing edge of the
> > elevator is supposed to go down 35 degrees.? How
> > much is it supposed to go up ?
> > > > ?
> > > > Zack
> > > >
> > >
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Storage Rack |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Nope, I'm not the originator....I copied by kind of morphing another
wing cart that I saw...maybe for a -7 or something. Then, Larry
liked mine and got the dimensions, improved on it, and
made a great page showing it with all the dimensions.
It's just great to see things like that evolve from builder to
builder. Yours will probably be even better. ;)
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
Current section: Tidying up to go to the airport
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Albert Gardner wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
>
> The originator of this wing rack also had the dimensions listed for it so it
> was a snap to build out of scrap 2/4's. Had to buy 2 10 foot boards but the
> remainder were 28 inches or shorter. Looks like yours Tim, did the idea come
> from you? It's a great one.
> Albert Gardner
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
Have you checked your local EAA chapter (you ARE a member, right???)? A
member in mine is an IA, teaches at a local Comm College, and can get some
whenever he needs to. Local chapter (if you have one) is definitely a good
thing.
Rob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:47 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Pitot Check
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just checked with my on-field FBO. They no longer do pitot
static checks, and they always have rented scales for W&B but
the guy they rented from no longer works at the other FBO so
they don't know that they can rent them anymore.
Is it true that a builder can do their on VFR pitot check, and
then perhaps during/after the flyoff I could fly to a neighboring
airport to get a full IFR pitot check?
And scales....what are others planning to do about scales?
Are these something you can usually find locally to rent?
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: Leading edge splice strip |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com>
Thanks Guys!
That is what I'll do.
Steve
--- Chris <toaster73@earthlink.net> wrote:
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> Ditto - I smushed the shop head right on down - its
> just a nut plate.
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> Chris Lucas
> #40072
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> From: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
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> > Steve,
> > I had same problem and simply set the rivet in
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Oh yeah, I'm a member fer sure. Our chapter is a smaller chapter
though, that isn't quite as active as many, and we don't currently
own scales. But, after contacting them, we're going to see
if we can renew the old push to get some. I have no idea what
they cost for good ones, but I'd be willing to pitch in to the
chapter to get some.
Thanks everyone for suggesting the chapter. I almost forgot to
check them initially.
Tim
Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170
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Robert G. Wright wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
>
> Have you checked your local EAA chapter (you ARE a member, right???)? A
> member in mine is an IA, teaches at a local Comm College, and can get some
> whenever he needs to. Local chapter (if you have one) is definitely a good
> thing.
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:47 PM
> To: RV10
> Subject: RV10-List: Pitot Check
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I just checked with my on-field FBO. They no longer do pitot
> static checks, and they always have rented scales for W&B but
> the guy they rented from no longer works at the other FBO so
> they don't know that they can rent them anymore.
>
> Is it true that a builder can do their on VFR pitot check, and
> then perhaps during/after the flyoff I could fly to a neighboring
> airport to get a full IFR pitot check?
>
> And scales....what are others planning to do about scales?
> Are these something you can usually find locally to rent?
>
> Tim
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| Subject: | Scott S. Transition Training post on VAF |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
There is a great post by Scott Schmidt on Vans Airforce. Check it out
<http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?p=30918#post30918>
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Larry Rosen
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Travel |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
Why is full elevator up only 4.9deg compare to the plans? (about 25deg or
so)
Anh
----- Original Message -----
From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:56 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Elevator Travel
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
>
> Thanks Eric!!
>
>
> ericmpmail-rv10(at)yahoo. wrote:
>> This is what I measured on Randy's plane (See also my
>> message on control throws from January 6th)
>>
>> Also measured elevator and trim travel.
>>
>> Elevator: Full up 4.9 degrees above horizontal plane
>> Full down 33.2 degrees below horizontal
>> plane
>>
>> Trim tab (left):
>> Full down: 22 degrees down relative to trailing edge
>> of elevator
>> Full up: 6.4 degrees above relative to " " " "
>>
>> Trim tab (right):
>> Full down: 21 degress down " " " " "
>> Full up: 27.1 degrees up " " " " "
>>
>> Note: Full up travel is very different for L vs R tab.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> --- zackrv8 wrote:
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jim,
>> >
>> > Oops. I meant the trailing edge of the trim tab.
>> > My plans says the trim tab trailing edge goes down
>> > 35 degrees. Maybe it's there but I don't see it
>> > yet.
>> >
>> > Zack
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > n8vim(at)arrl.net wrote:
>> > > Zack,
>> > > ??? Is this what you're looking for on page 11-2
>> > of the plans? (Attached)
>> > >
>> > > -Jim 40384
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Joseph Czachorowski wrote:
>> > > > ? I know the trailing edge of the
>> > elevator is supposed to go down 35 degrees.? How
>> > much is it supposed to go up ?
>> > > > ?
>> > > > Zack
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --------
>> > RV8 #80125
>> > RV10 # 40512
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online here:
>> >
>> >
>> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=5226#5226
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance quote |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
> I talked to EAA insurance last year and they wanted some ungodly
number of total hours, if I remember . . .
TDT,
My recent quote from EAA (Falcon) = $3723/yr for $150K hull, no instrument
rating, 750TT, no credit toward my 400hrs RV-6 time. It does appear to be
higher than most.
Anh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:59 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Insurance quote
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
>
> FWIW I had ground coverage only on my first two airplanes, a Q-2 and a
> Skybolt. I figured I didn't have that much in them and if I totaled the
> machine I wouldn't be needing the money anyway. Morbid, but honest. On
> my
> RV-6 I figured I had a lot more in the airplane, around $42,000, and
> decided
> to opt for full coverage. I'm about as cheap as they get, buy I am
> thankful
> I didn't short change myself this time. I had a catastrophic engine
> failure
> due to an improperly overhauled engine and had to deadstick into
> unfriendly
> terrain. That extra insurance was worth every cent at that point.
>
> My thought is that as much as I hate to pay for insurance, I can't afford
> not to with these over $100K airplanes.
>
> Marcus
> 40286
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:29 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Insurance quote
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
>
> I went with ground and taxi from AIG at 2100.00 year. With 250 total
> hours and 100+ hours in the 10 and no instrument rating. My quote for
> full flight was bout 3100.00 for 150,000 coverage. Randy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:35 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Insurance quote
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
>
> One thing you might want to ask, which I was told when I was shopping
> for Builder's Insurance, was that the EAA plan did NOT cover
> transportation. In other words, when I was moving my $$$ project by
> trailer from garage to hanger, it was not covered. Just what I was
> told.
>
> -Sean #40303
>
> Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>>
>>
>> I talked to EAA insurance last year and they wanted some ungodly
> number
>> of total hours, if I remember . . .
>>
>> TDT
>> 40025
>> Do not archive
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillips,
>> Jack
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:12 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Insurance quote
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack"
>> <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
>>
>> Did you try Falcon Insurance through the EAA? I have the insurance on
>> my Pietenpol and my RV-4 with them. Their price is comparable to AIG,
>> but there is no deductible and you are covered in anything you fly
> (that
>> you are qualified to fly) up to the value of your hull insurance. I
> use
>> the $50,000 coverage on my RV-4 to allow me to fly a friend's 1934
>> Fairchild 22 and have full insurance coverage.
>>
>> Also, Falcon only required me to have 2 hours dual in the RV-4.
>>
>> Jack Phillips
>> Pietenpol Air Camper NX899JP
>> Van's RV-4 N18LR
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 9:29 AM
>> To: RV10
>> Subject: RV10-List: Insurance quote
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> Just wanted to pass on my recent quote. I listed 450 hours TT, which
> is
>> a little lower than actual. This is with a private and instrument
>> rating, and the instrument is usually good for a discount.
>> The quote is also for a hangered RV-10.
>>
>> $160K hull value full coverage $3,357 from AIG, requires 5 hours
>> dual and 10 hours solo. Reduced limits during the flyoff.
>>
>> $160K hull value full coverage $6,850 from Global, requires 10
>> hours dual with Mike Seager in ANOTHER RV-10 prior to solo
>> operation of my RV-10. ** Interesting that they specified
>> exactly who the transition trainer must be.
>>
>> It's also interesting to note that if I were to fly off the time,
>> and then apply for the insurance, the quote would likely be less,
>> as I'd have 25 hours in Make and Model, plus in my case I'd have
>> more HP time.
>>
>> Just passing along my quoted info.
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Aircraft Extras Flap Positioning System - Ray Allen Position |
Sensor installation?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Anyone using the Aircraft Extras flap positioning system
<http://www.aircraftextras.com/FPS-Plus.htm> on there 10? Do you have
any photos of your installation of the Ray Allen position sensor
(POS-12) that is needed to measure the position of the flap mechanism?
Please email them to me at LarryRosen@comcast.net so the attachments do
not slow down those unfortunate subscribers that still use dial up. :-)
Larry Rosen
#356
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com>
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