---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/28/06: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:02 AM - Re: 3 blade props (Russell Daves) 2. 04:37 AM - Re: 3 blade props (Mark Ritter) 3. 06:07 AM - Re: 3 blade props (Jim Wade) 4. 09:44 AM - Re: 3 blade props (Gary Specketer) 5. 11:04 AM - Re: 3 blade props (Mark Chamberlain) 6. 11:10 AM - First flight (Mark Chamberlain) 7. 11:15 AM - (Mark Chamberlain) 8. 11:20 AM - Re: 3 blade props (2eyedocs) 9. 12:05 PM - Re: rudder cable fairings (Larry Rosen) 10. 12:44 PM - Re: Re: 3 blade props (Jim Wade) 11. 01:05 PM - Re: Re: 3 blade props (Jesse Saint) 12. 05:15 PM - Re: Re: 3 blade props (Mark Ritter) 13. 06:28 PM - Re: rudder cable fairings (Robert G. Wright) 14. 06:45 PM - Re: rudder cable fairings (Jesse Saint) 15. 06:46 PM - Re: Re: 3 blade props (Tim Dawson-Townsend) 16. 07:22 PM - Re: First flight (GenGrumpy@aol.com) 17. 07:26 PM - Re: rudder cable fairings (Tim Olson) 18. 07:56 PM - Re: 3 blade props (2eyedocs) 19. 08:51 PM - Section 29 (McGANN, Ron) 20. 10:09 PM - Test Flying (John) 21. 11:03 PM - Seat Install Without removing Flap covers (DejaVu) 22. 11:04 PM - Re: First flight (DejaVu) 23. 11:36 PM - Re: rudder cable fairings (Larry Rosen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:02:53 AM PST US From: "Russell Daves" Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props I plan on being at OSH 2006 with my RV-10, knock on wood. Russ Daves #40044 Canopy on. ----- Original Message ----- From: LessDragProd@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props Hi John, I don't have a complete list. There are around 20 US MT Propeller assembly/sales facilities. And believe it, or not; Van's Aircraft is selling the 3 blade MT Propeller for the RV-10, also. Besides, after the way some of you treated each other in the past, it would probably be poor form to provide a list. I have an idea. Why don't we all just meet at Oshkosh and see who has which propeller on their RV-10? Regards, Jim Ayers In a message dated 01/27/2006 9:13:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, johnwcox@pacificnw.com writes: (Stuff Cut) Okay Jim, can you publish your client list on the MT 3 blade package? Or are they all sworn to secrecy until certified Experimental flying RV-10s. John - KUAO ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:19 AM PST US From: "Mark Ritter" Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:04 AM PST US From: Jim Wade Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props My two cents worth. I chose the Aerocomposite prop. For weight reduction and for the construction. At Sun & Fun last year I looked at both MT and Aerocomposite. The Aero has much better construction and durability. No wood!! The way the blades are built, you have a much less chance of blade to hub frailer. I also decided on the 2 blade, mainly for speed. The 3 blade is smoother, looks better, takes off a little quicker, but slower in cruise, especially at altitude. I was hoping to make Sun & Fun, but panel will delay me. I will be at OSH. http://www.aerocomposites.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.viewPage&page_id=1 Jim Wade 40383 Wings finished Cabin & Doors on. -------Original Message------- From: Mark Ritter Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props Russ - With a little luck I might make OSH 2006. I have really enjoyed working with Jim Ayers on the three blade MT prop - hope I can meet him in person at OSH. If you get down to Austin give me a call (I have a an extra National Football Championship caps if you will wear it in Texas Tech country). There is one other RV-10 being built in Austin with a rotary engine. Hook-em Horns From: "Russell Daves" Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props I plan on being at OSH 2006 with my RV-10, knock on wood. Russ Daves #40044 Canopy on. ----- Original Message ----- From: LessDragProd@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props Hi John, I don't have a complete list. There are around 20 US MT Propeller assembly/sales facilities. And believe it, or not; Van's Aircraft is selling the 3 blade MT Propeller for the RV-10, also. Besides, after the way some of you treated each other in the past, it would probably be poor form to provide a list. I have an idea. Why don't we all just meet at Oshkosh and see who has which propeller on their RV-10? Regards, Jim Ayers In a message dated 01/27/2006 9:13:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, johnwcox@pacificnw.com writes: (Stuff Cut) Okay Jim, can you publish your client list on the MT 3 blade package? Or are they all sworn to secrecy until certified Experimental flying RV-10s. John - KUAO ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:18 AM PST US From: "Gary Specketer" Subject: RE: RV10-List: 3 blade props I too have an Aerocomposite prop for the exact same reasons. The sales hype says it will be faster than the Hartzel, we will see! Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Wade Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:04 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props My two cents worth. I chose the Aerocomposite prop. For weight reduction and for the construction. At Sun & Fun last year I looked at both MT and Aerocomposite. The Aero has much better construction and durability. No wood!! The way the blades are built, you have a much less chance of blade to hub frailer. I also decided on the 2 blade, mainly for speed. The 3 blade is smoother, looks better, takes off a little quicker, but slower in cruise, especially at altitude. I was hoping to make Sun & Fun, but panel will delay me. I will be at OSH. http://www.aerocomposites.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=3Dhome.viewPage &page_id=3D1 Jim Wade 40383 Wings finished Cabin & Doors on. -------Original Message------- From: Mark Ritter Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props Russ - With a little luck I might make OSH 2006. I have really enjoyed working with Jim Ayers on the three blade MT prop - hope I can meet him in person at OSH. If you get down to Austin give me a call (I have a an extra National Football Championship caps if you will wear it in Texas Tech country). There is one other RV-10 being built in Austin with a rotary engine. Hook-em Horns _____ From: "Russell Daves" Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props I plan on being at OSH 2006 with my RV-10, knock on wood. Russ Daves #40044 Canopy on. ----- Original Message ----- From: LessDragProd@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props Hi John, I don't have a complete list. There are around 20 US MT Propeller assembly/sales facilities. And believe it, or not; Van's Aircraft is selling the 3 blade MT Propeller for the RV-10, also. Besides, after the way some of you treated each other in the past, it would probably be poor form to provide a list. I have an idea. Why don't we all just meet at Oshkosh and see who has which propeller on their RV-10? Regards, Jim Ayers In a message dated 01/27/2006 9:13:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, johnwcox@pacificnw.com writes: (Stuff Cut) Okay Jim, can you publish your client list on the MT 3 blade package? Or are they all sworn to secrecy until certified Experimental flying RV-10s. John - KUAO =09 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:04:58 AM PST US From: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props Thanks Randy! Still hard to believe how well it flies right out of the box. Hope to see some of you other guys around the West this summer.Mark. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:10:36 AM PST US From: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> Subject: RV10-List: First flight First flight of N104ML on Wed. For those of you wondering, I got bored priming the cabin top (temporary) so I taped off this design to cover some scuffs on the sheet metal until painting. Fly's great, working out a few minor issues. Mark. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:15:08 AM PST US From: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> Subject: RV10-List: More pics in case you're also wondering where my 10 is based. Los Angeles airspace of course!! ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:20:50 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: 3 blade props From: "2eyedocs" <2eyedocs@comcast.net> --> RV10-List message posted by: "2eyedocs" <2eyedocs@comcast.net> jwadejr(at)direcway.com wrote: > My two cents worth. I chose the Aerocomposite prop. For weight reduction and for the construction. > Jim Wade > 40383 > Wings finished > Cabin & Doors on.? > ? > [i]---- Jim, I'm sure this must have been brought up before, but how does the lighter prop affect W&B? I would think you wouldn't have to add as much balast to the baggage area to make it less nose heavy. I wonder, though, if by shifting the CG effectively further back that it would make it more difficult to stay within the W&B envelope. Thanks, Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7633#7633 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:27 PM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder cable fairings --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen I agree with Tim. There is access from the top to buck the rivets and waiting until later will allow you to align the fairing with the cable exit. Larry Rosen http://lrosen.nerv10.com > > > Robert G. Wright wrote: > >> Did any you who used the fairings install them during the initial >> tailcone build? Right now Im thinking about waiting til later so I >> can see just how I need to leave clearance for the cable exit. Is >> this necessary? If you waited til later, how hard was the install? >> Im planning on riveting the ones on the aft tailcone. >> >> >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> #392 ready to rivet tailcone starting tomorrow! >> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:44:50 PM PST US From: Jim Wade Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: 3 blade props Looks to me like the envelope is wide enough to handle it very well. I would think the most weight needed would be 25 pounds instead of 50 for solo or two up front. Even when you load 4 and heavy baggage, I don't think you can get it too far aft. Jim 40383 -------Original Message------- From: 2eyedocs Subject: RV10-List: Re: 3 blade props --> RV10-List message posted by: "2eyedocs" <2eyedocs@comcast.net> jwadejr(at)direcway.com wrote: > My two cents worth. I chose the Aerocomposite prop. For weight reduction and for the construction. > Jim Wade > 40383 > Wings finished > Cabin & Doors on.? > ? > [i]---- Jim, I'm sure this must have been brought up before, but how does the lighter prop affect W&B? I would think you wouldn't have to add as much balast to the baggage area to make it less nose heavy. I wonder, though, if by shifting the CG effectively further back that it would make it more difficult to stay within the W&B envelope. Thanks, Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7633#7633 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:05:00 PM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: 3 blade props It'll sit on its haunches if you load it full seats and full baggage. We experienced that bouncing across the field at OSH this year, and have a new tail light to show for it. In fact, if you don't fill at least one of the front seats before filling the back seats, it likes to take a tail dive when the pilot hits the step. It's your plane, but the last thing I want is to shift the CG aft. Removing weight is a good thing for when you are flying heavy, but I would have to move more weight up front to compensate for the lighter prop in N256H. This is not a new discussion, of course, but it seems to be a new round of people discussing it. IMHO, it is easier to add weight to the baggage compartment when flying light than it is taking weight out of the tail when it is heavy. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org Fax: 815-377-3694 I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC, please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me, please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Wade Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: 3 blade props Looks to me like the envelope is wide enough to handle it very well. I would think the most weight needed would be 25 pounds instead of 50 for solo or two up front. Even when you load 4 and heavy baggage, I don't think you can get it too far aft. Jim 40383 -------Original Message------- From: 2eyedocs Subject: RV10-List: Re: 3 blade props --> RV10-List message posted by: "2eyedocs" <2eyedocs@comcast.net> jwadejr(at)direcway.com wrote: > My two cents worth. I chose the Aerocomposite prop. For weight reduction and for the construction. > Jim Wade > 40383 > Wings finished > Cabin & Doors on.? > ? > [i]---- Jim, I'm sure this must have been brought up before, but how does the lighter prop affect W&B? I would think you wouldn't have to add as much balast to the baggage area to make it less nose heavy. I wonder, though, if by shifting the CG effectively further back that it would make it more difficult to stay within the W&B envelope. Thanks, Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7633#7633 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:15:38 PM PST US From: "Mark Ritter" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: 3 blade props --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:32 PM PST US From: "Robert G. Wright" Subject: RE: RV10-List: rudder cable fairings --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" Thanks Tim and Larry for the reinforcement. Do not archive Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:01 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder cable fairings --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen I agree with Tim. There is access from the top to buck the rivets and waiting until later will allow you to align the fairing with the cable exit. Larry Rosen http://lrosen.nerv10.com > > > Robert G. Wright wrote: > >> Did any you who used the fairings install them during the initial >> tailcone build? Right now I'm thinking about waiting 'til later so I >> can see just how I need to leave clearance for the cable exit. Is >> this necessary? If you waited 'til later, how hard was the install? >> I'm planning on riveting the ones on the aft tailcone. >> >> >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> #392 ready to rivet tailcone starting tomorrow! >> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:29 PM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: rudder cable fairings --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" Did ya'll make the plates flush with the skin or did you just let it sit outside the skin and dimple the rivets? Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org Fax: 815-377-3694 I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC, please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me, please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert G. Wright Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:24 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: rudder cable fairings --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" Thanks Tim and Larry for the reinforcement. Do not archive Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:01 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder cable fairings --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen I agree with Tim. There is access from the top to buck the rivets and waiting until later will allow you to align the fairing with the cable exit. Larry Rosen http://lrosen.nerv10.com > > > Robert G. Wright wrote: > >> Did any you who used the fairings install them during the initial >> tailcone build? Right now I'm thinking about waiting 'til later so I >> can see just how I need to leave clearance for the cable exit. Is >> this necessary? If you waited 'til later, how hard was the install? >> I'm planning on riveting the ones on the aft tailcone. >> >> >> >> Rob >> >> >> >> #392 ready to rivet tailcone starting tomorrow! >> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:49 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: 3 blade props From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" Four adults and low fuel will get you past the aft c.g. . . . TDT 40025 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jim Wade Sent: Sat 1/28/2006 3:34 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: 3 blade props Looks to me like the envelope is wide enough to handle it very well. I would think the most weight needed would be 25 pounds instead of 50 for solo or two up front. Even when you load 4 and heavy baggage, I don't think you can get it too far aft. Jim 40383 -------Original Message------- From: 2eyedocs Subject: RV10-List: Re: 3 blade props --> RV10-List message posted by: "2eyedocs" <2eyedocs@comcast.net> jwadejr(at)direcway.com wrote: > My two cents worth. I chose the Aerocomposite prop. For weight reduction and for the construction. > Jim Wade > 40383 > Wings finished > Cabin & Doors on.? > ? > [i]---- Jim, I'm sure this must have been brought up before, but how does the lighter prop affect W&B? I would think you wouldn't have to add as much balast to the baggage area to make it less nose heavy. I wonder, though, if by shifting the CG effectively further back that it would make it more difficult to stay within the W&B envelope. Thanks, Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D7633#7633 =09 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:57 PM PST US From: GenGrumpy@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: First flight Nice job - Mark! What is the primer on the fiberglass? In a message dated 1/28/2006 1:11:52 PM Central Standard Time, 10flyer@verizon.net writes: First flight of N104ML on Wed. For those of you wondering, I got bored priming the cabin top (temporary) so I taped off this design to cover some scuffs on the sheet metal until painting. Fly's great, working out a few minor issues. Mark. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:10 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder cable fairings --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Just left them outside. Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Current section: Final Assembly DO NOT ARCHIVE Jesse Saint wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" > > Did ya'll make the plates flush with the skin or did you just let it sit > outside the skin and dimple the rivets? > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC, > please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me, > please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has > voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert G. Wright > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:24 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: rudder cable fairings > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" > > > Thanks Tim and Larry for the reinforcement. Do not archive > > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen > Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:01 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder cable fairings > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen > > I agree with Tim. There is access from the top to buck the rivets and > waiting until later will allow you to align the fairing with the cable exit. > > Larry Rosen > http://lrosen.nerv10.com > > > >> >>Robert G. Wright wrote: >> >> >>>Did any you who used the fairings install them during the initial >>>tailcone build? Right now I'm thinking about waiting 'til later so I >>>can see just how I need to leave clearance for the cable exit. Is >>>this necessary? If you waited 'til later, how hard was the install? >>>I'm planning on riveting the ones on the aft tailcone. >>> >>> >>> >>>Rob >>> >>> >>> >>>#392 ready to rivet tailcone starting tomorrow! >>> >> >> >> >>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:56:21 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: 3 blade props From: "2eyedocs" <2eyedocs@comcast.net> --> RV10-List message posted by: "2eyedocs" <2eyedocs@comcast.net> Tdawson(at)avidyne.com wrote: > Four adults and low fuel will get you past the aft c.g. . . . > TDT > 40025 > I like the idea of decreasing the overall weight. If a composite prop is used up front, is there any way to redistribute some of the weight away from the rear to counter the aft cg? The only thing that comes to mind might be repositioning the batteries. If this is even possible, it wouldn't be enough. Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7743#7743 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:51:39 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Section 29 From: "McGANN, Ron" Hey all, Section 29, page 14, step 9 has you countersink the fuse longerons for a AN426-AD3 rivet. Is this correct, or are they countersunk for an 032" skin dimple? Drilled the F100B, F1040, F1041 assemblies to the WD-1002 and WD-1003 weldments yesterday. Some listers had previously reported problems with holes running off the edge of the weldments. Fortunatetly, I double checked before match drilling. Had I not, my holes would also have drifted off the edge of the weldments. To all yet to hit this point I would encourage extra care. Removing the firwall to weldment rivets and replacing the weldments would be a a right pain in the agates. My observation on the fuse plans is that they are very poor compared to the emp/wings. take care Ron #187 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:09:31 PM PST US From: "John" Subject: RV10-List: Test Flying Just a general request for opinions from everyone.....especially from the flying 10 pilots and the soon to be... Is there a minimum range of experience you would recommend for undertaking your own solo and testing program in the RV-10? John 40315 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:03:17 PM PST US From: "DejaVu" Subject: RV10-List: Seat Install Without removing Flap covers Shaved seat rail bushing blocks today. About 3/32 on the top sides by 1/2 deep. This allowed the seats to be installed at an angle until they move forward far enough to drop down and continue to move forward the rest of the way. Worked great with flap covers on, even with carpet. Anh ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 11:04:09 PM PST US From: "DejaVu" Subject: Re: RV10-List: First flight Mark, Congrats!... Quite a bit of right rudder while taxiing eh! Anh ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Chamberlain To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:09 PM Subject: RV10-List: First flight First flight of N104ML on Wed. For those of you wondering, I got bored priming the cabin top (temporary) so I taped off this design to cover some scuffs on the sheet metal until painting. Fly's great, working out a few minor issues. Mark. ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 11:36:52 PM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder cable fairings --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen I will leave them outside. Another note, if you do wait until after the tailcone is assembled you will need a pop rivet dimpler to dimple the tailcone skin. Larry Jesse Saint wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" > >Did ya'll make the plates flush with the skin or did you just let it sit >outside the skin and dimple the rivets? > >Jesse Saint >I-TEC, Inc. >jesse@itecusa.org >www.itecusa.org >Fax: 815-377-3694 > >I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC, >please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me, >please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has >voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert G. Wright >Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 9:24 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV10-List: rudder cable fairings > >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" > > >Thanks Tim and Larry for the reinforcement. Do not archive > >Rob > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen >Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 2:01 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: rudder cable fairings > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen > >I agree with Tim. There is access from the top to buck the rivets and >waiting until later will allow you to align the fairing with the cable exit. > >Larry Rosen >http://lrosen.nerv10.com > > > > >>Robert G. Wright wrote: >> >> >> >>>Did any you who used the fairings install them during the initial >>>tailcone build? Right now I'm thinking about waiting 'til later so I >>>can see just how I need to leave clearance for the cable exit. Is >>>this necessary? If you waited 'til later, how hard was the install? >>>I'm planning on riveting the ones on the aft tailcone. >>> >>> >>> >>>Rob >>> >>> >>> >>>#392 ready to rivet tailcone starting tomorrow! >>> >>> >>> >> >>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >