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1. 02:56 AM - Re: Test Flying (RAS)
2. 04:46 AM - Re: 3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props (Wayne Edgerton)
3. 05:26 AM - Re: Test Flying (Marcus Cooper)
4. 05:33 AM - Re: Test Flying (David McNeill)
5. 07:07 AM - Re: Test Flying (Sean Stephens)
6. 07:22 AM - Proseal on trailing edges? (Eric_Kallio)
7. 07:42 AM - Re: Proseal on trailing edges? (rv10builder)
8. 07:55 AM - Re: 3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
9. 08:16 AM - Re: Rivet and holes sizes (LIKE2LOOP@aol.com)
10. 08:30 AM - Re: Test Flying (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
11. 09:08 AM - Re: First flight (Mark Chamberlain)
12. 09:26 AM - New RV-10 builder and web site (Jeff Dalton)
13. 09:49 AM - Re: New RV-10 builder and web site (John Jessen)
14. 10:51 AM - Re: 3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props (Gary Specketer)
15. 12:11 PM - Re: Proseal on trailing edges? (Chris , Susie Darcy)
16. 02:14 PM - Re: Rivet and holes sizes (McGANN, Ron)
17. 02:32 PM - Re: Proseal on trailing edges? (Darton Steve)
18. 02:55 PM - Re: Proseal on trailing edges? (Brian Sponcil)
19. 04:09 PM - Re: Proseal on trailing edges? (John W. Cox)
20. 04:55 PM - Re: First flight (Mark Chamberlain)
21. 05:47 PM - Re: shipping costs (Dj Merrill)
22. 06:43 PM - Re: shipping costs (Larry Rosen)
23. 08:55 PM - Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! (Matt Dralle)
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Hi John,
I'm not giving you an outright answer to your question, but I always view these
questions and compare them to myth of Rolls Royce automobile dealers; "if you
ask how much they are , you can't afford them".
Maybe a bit more practical; have you flown anything as fast as a -10? Think Saratoga
SP, Turbo Centurion, Beech 36?
Have you ever been caught up in unusual attitudes(unintentional)? If the answer
to these two questions is no, then it's probably better to find someone who has
this type of experience.
Knowing someone's experience is not going to warrant you from having an accident
due to lack of experience during your testfase. Your experience would have to
be comparable on a like for like basis. Your reactions in situations have to
similar and just as fast, if not faster.
If you can get a 'proper' testpilot to do the first couple of hours with you it
is money well spent. It doesn't really matter whether they're civilian or military.
----- Original Message -----
From: John
To: rv10-list
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:05 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Test Flying
Just a general request for opinions from everyone.....especially from the flying
10 pilots and the soon to be...
Is there a minimum range of experience you would recommend for undertaking your
own solo and testing program in the RV-10?
John
40315
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| Subject: | Re: 3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade |
props
If you don't mind me asking, what was the price of the Aerocomposite as compared
to Hartzel?
Wayne Edgerton
40336
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John,
I would also agree that it's largely an "it depends" question. If you
have a local EAA chapter I would recommend you talk to a First Flight
Advisor. He/She will have video and a checklist of sorts that discusses
this pretty well in addition to how to conduct the fist series of flights.
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 1:06 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Test Flying
Just a general request for opinions from everyone.....especially from the
flying 10 pilots and the soon to be...
Is there a minimum range of experience you would recommend for undertaking
your own solo and testing program in the RV-10?
John
40315
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If you are in the AZ area, I recommend getting the test pilot who does the first
flights for Phoenix composites. He flies new Glasair, Glastar, Lanceair 4P,
Thunder Mustang etc. And at $100 per hour his service is a bargain.
----- Original Message -----
From: RAS
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Test Flying
Hi John,
I'm not giving you an outright answer to your question, but I always view these
questions and compare them to myth of Rolls Royce automobile dealers; "if you
ask how much they are , you can't afford them".
Maybe a bit more practical; have you flown anything as fast as a -10? Think Saratoga
SP, Turbo Centurion, Beech 36?
Have you ever been caught up in unusual attitudes(unintentional)? If the answer
to these two questions is no, then it's probably better to find someone who
has this type of experience.
Knowing someone's experience is not going to warrant you from having an accident
due to lack of experience during your testfase. Your experience would have
to be comparable on a like for like basis. Your reactions in situations have
to similar and just as fast, if not faster.
If you can get a 'proper' testpilot to do the first couple of hours with you
it is money well spent. It doesn't really matter whether they're civilian or military.
----- Original Message -----
From: John
To: rv10-list
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:05 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Test Flying
Just a general request for opinions from everyone.....especially from the flying
10 pilots and the soon to be...
Is there a minimum range of experience you would recommend for undertaking
your own solo and testing program in the RV-10?
John
40315
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
There's a few good links on the RV-10 Wiki...
<http://www.rv10wiki.com/index.php?title=Flight_Test_Info>
-Sean
David McNeill wrote:
> If you are in the AZ area, I recommend getting the test pilot who does
> the first flights for Phoenix composites. He flies new Glasair,
> Glastar, Lanceair 4P, Thunder Mustang etc. And at $100 per hour his
> service is a bargain.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* RAS <mailto:deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 29, 2006 3:51 AM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Test Flying
>
> Hi John,
>
> I'm not giving you an outright answer to your question, but I
> always view these questions and compare them to myth of Rolls
> Royce automobile dealers; "if you ask how much they are , you
> can't afford them".
>
> Maybe a bit more practical; have you flown anything as fast as a
> -10? Think Saratoga SP, Turbo Centurion, Beech 36?
> Have you ever been caught up in unusual attitudes(unintentional)?
> If the answer to these two questions is no, then it's probably
> better to find someone who has this type of experience.
>
> Knowing someone's experience is not going to warrant you from
> having an accident due to lack of experience during your testfase.
> Your experience would have to be comparable on a like for like
> basis. Your reactions in situations have to similar and just as
> fast, if not faster.
>
> If you can get a 'proper' testpilot to do the first couple of
> hours with you it is money well spent. It doesn't really matter
> whether they're civilian or military.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John <mailto:acs@acspropeller.com.au>
> *To:* rv10-list <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:05 AM
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Test Flying
>
> Just a general request for opinions from
> everyone.....especially from the flying 10 pilots and the soon
> to be...
> Is there a minimum range of experience you would recommend for
> undertaking your own solo and testing program in the RV-10?
> John
> 40315
>
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| Subject: | Proseal on trailing edges? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
I am on my way to Alexander to start my tail in a couple weeks. My question is
whether or not I need to proseal the trailing edges, and if so, is it even feasible
at Alexander? I live in Baton Rouge, LA so humidity and moisture (read corrosion)
are of concern. I would like to poll the audience and open the floodgates.
I would love to hear what most of you have done, especially any one else
living in a coastal area or that went to Alexander. Also if anyome has the first
couple pages scanned or emailable in someway that I can review before going
it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Eric Kallio
40518
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7804#7804
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| Subject: | Re: Proseal on trailing edges? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: rv10builder <rv10builder@bellsouth.net>
Eric,
I built my empennage at Alexander; and did not use proseal. Jacob will
prime all of the parts for you and show you how to rivet the trailing
edge so that it will come out straight as an arrow.
Brian
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-N104BS
Eric_Kallio wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
>
>I am on my way to Alexander to start my tail in a couple weeks. My question is
whether or not I need to proseal the trailing edges, and if so, is it even feasible
at Alexander? I live in Baton Rouge, LA so humidity and moisture (read
corrosion) are of concern. I would like to poll the audience and open the floodgates.
I would love to hear what most of you have done, especially any one else
living in a coastal area or that went to Alexander. Also if anyome has the
first couple pages scanned or emailable in someway that I can review before going
it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
>
>Eric Kallio
>40518
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7804#7804
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| Subject: | 3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade |
props
Hmm, one of the -10 builders in my chapter went with an Aerocomposite. I believe
it was something like 13k. Don't quote me on that though. It's a nice mix
of 2 and 3 blade properties though. All the speed of a 2 blade and the climb
performance and smoothness of a 3. It's also hydraulic, not electric. Would
be nice for the extra cash.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
do not archive
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade
props
If you don't mind me asking, what was the price of the Aerocomposite as compared
to Hartzel?
Wayne Edgerton
40336
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| Subject: | Re: Rivet and holes sizes |
In a message dated 1/28/06 11:53:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ron.mcgann@baesystems.com writes:
Section 29, page 14, step 9 has you countersink the fuse longerons for a
AN426-AD3 rivet. Is this correct, or are they countersunk for an 032" skin
dimple?
If you countersink for a 3- rivet, it will accept the rivet or 3/32 skin
dimple that will then have the 3- rivet in it. So to answer your question, the
CSK will work for either a rivet or a skin dimple.
For the confused (like me), The rivets are numbered in 32nds.
The "3-" rivets are 3/32nds. (0.09375") and fit in #40 holes (0.098").
The "4-" rivets are 4/32nds = 1/8" dia. (0.125") fit in #30 holes
(0.1285").
The #40 drills are smaller then the #30.
I also got hung up the issue of what size to drill some of the
stiffeners on the surface that faces the skins HS. The plans can be confusing
at
first. They become obvious when you make mistakes.
The best way to figure out what they are really saying is to flip to
the page with the skin diagram with the rivet call out specs for the section
you are on.
If the rivets called for are AN426 3- then the holes are all 3/32 (#40
drill), so NO surfaces that faces the skin should be drilled larger then 3/32,
or a #40 drill, and they will be flush. The AN470 are the dome shaped
rivets, so no dimple or CSK. The skin layout pages often clear up all the words
on the previous pages.
If the rivets called for are 4- then the holes have to be 1/8 (#30).
It would really help if the plans were like the VS figures with specific
rivets and drill sizes on the drawings as well. They seem to slack on
detail as we go.
If you think about the holes... any dimpled holes usually have a
corresponding Countersunk hole behind it, if the metal is thick enough. If there
is
a doubler behind a countersunk hole, it needs NO cs or dimple since it butts
up to a flat surface. For the new guys.... ( i am a veteran, 1 month into
it) the number on the rivets after the dash is just the length. I hope this
clears up things for some folks.
Steve Just finished dimpling the HS skins and ribs, and doing all the
CSK.
Stephen Blank RV-10 Builder #40499 / C-170B flyer
766 SE River Lane
Port St. Lucie, FL 34983
772-475-5556 cell
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John,
I have test flown 9 or 10 experimentals now. I would go with the "if you
have to ask, you can't afford it". Here is real deal: and it all comes down
to your comfort level. Most crashes on the first flight are due to pilot
error, not keeping up with the aircraft. For insurance you will most likely
be asked to get 5 hours instruction and then fly 10 hrs solo. Since you
can't get instruction during phase one that obviously puts you in someone
else's aircraft. After you complete that training, then see if you ask how
much for the Rolls.
By the way it is that 15-20 Hr mark that will bite your ass.
Noel
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 11:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Test Flying
Just a general request for opinions from everyone.....especially from the
flying 10 pilots and the soon to be...
Is there a minimum range of experience you would recommend for undertaking
your own solo and testing program in the RV-10?
John
40315
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
Santa Ana winds here in SoCal had just shifted to a southerly wind that was behind
me at the time (15G20)
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| Subject: | New RV-10 builder and web site |
Hello all,
I finally received and started my RV-10 kit. I ordered it on 12/30 (beat the
price increase) and just started this week.
For now I'm using the KitLog pro service for hosting my photos and log. Please feel free to add me to your links if you feel so inclined. The direct link is: http://www.kitlog.com/users/index.php?user=3Djrdalton
I live in Michigan, am a 40-something owner of a consulting firm, and I drive a
Cherokee 140 (for now).
Having a ball with the EmpKit!
Jeff
40544
"It is not the critic who counts: Not the man who points out how the strong man
stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit
belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust
and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again
and again ... who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in
the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst, if he fails, at
least he fails while daring greatly." T. Roosevelt
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| Subject: | New RV-10 builder and web site |
Hey, Jeff! Welcome to a great time!
John Jessen
~328 (tailcone and elevators)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Dalton
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:25 AM
Subject: RV10-List: New RV-10 builder and web site
Hello all,
I finally received and started my RV-10 kit. I ordered it on 12/30 (beat
the price increase) and just started this week.
For now I'm using the KitLog pro service for hosting my photos and log.
Please feel free to add me to your links if you feel so inclined. The
direct link is: http://www.kitlog.com/users/index.php?user=jrdalton
I live in Michigan, am a 40-something owner of a consulting firm, and I
drive a Cherokee 140 (for now).
Having a ball with the EmpKit!
Jeff
40544
"It is not the critic who counts: Not the man who points out how the strong
man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The
credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred
by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up
short again and again ... who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the
best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who at worst,
if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly." T. Roosevelt
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| Subject: | 3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade |
props
I paid $9500 for mine. I bought it from Phoenix Composits.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 10:55 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: 3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade
props3 blade props
Hmm, one of the -10 builders in my chapter went with an Aerocomposite. I
believe it was something like 13k. Don't quote me on that though. It's a
nice mix of 2 and 3 blade properties though. All the speed of a 2 blade and
the climb performance and smoothness of a 3. It's also hydraulic, not
electric. Would be nice for the extra cash.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
do not archive
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: 3 blade props3 blade props3 blade props3 blade
props3 blade props
If you don't mind me asking, what was the price of the Aerocomposite as
compared to Hartzel?
Wayne Edgerton
40336
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| Subject: | Re: Proseal on trailing edges? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
NO There is absolutely no need to unless you want to add weight.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 2:21 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Proseal on trailing edges?
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
>
> I am on my way to Alexander to start my tail in a couple weeks. My
> question is whether or not I need to proseal the trailing edges, and if
> so, is it even feasible at Alexander? I live in Baton Rouge, LA so
> humidity and moisture (read corrosion) are of concern. I would like to
> poll the audience and open the floodgates. I would love to hear what most
> of you have done, especially any one else living in a coastal area or that
> went to Alexander. Also if anyome has the first couple pages scanned or
> emailable in someway that I can review before going it would be much
> appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Eric Kallio
> 40518
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7804#7804
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| Subject: | Rivet and holes sizes |
Hi Steve,
-------- If you countersink for a 3- rivet, it will accept the rivet or 3/32
skin dimple that will then have the 3- rivet in it. So to answer your question,
the CSK will work for either a rivet or a skin dimple. --------
You may in fact find that the countersink for a -3 rivet is too small for an 032
skin dimple. If you countersink to flush the head of a -3 rivet, then insert
a dimpled skin into that countersink, you may notice the skin sits a little
proud (ie above) the flange with the countersink. The objective is to have the
dimple sit in the countersink AND to have the skin flush with the underlying
structure.
I have found that countersink depth varies with skin thickness. Just my observation
- other's experience/opinions may vary.
cheers,
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Proseal on trailing edges? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com>
The Proseal is only used to hold the assembly together
while you rivet it. If you have some kind of angle
iron bucking bar you can cleco to it is easily done
without Proseal. Check out Mike Howe's site.
http://www.etigerrr.com/RV10Rudder/rudder_november_19.htm
Mike Howe or Tim Olsen have the plans pages available
thier web-sites in PDF format.
Steve 40212
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> I am on my way to Alexander to start my tail in a
> couple weeks. My question is whether or not I need
> to proseal the trailing edges, and if so, is it even
> feasible at Alexander? I live in Baton Rouge, LA so
> humidity and moisture (read corrosion) are of
> concern. I would like to poll the audience and open
> the floodgates. I would love to hear what most of
> you have done, especially any one else living in a
> coastal area or that went to Alexander. Also if
> anyome has the first couple pages scanned or
> emailable in someway that I can review before going
> it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Eric Kallio
> 40518
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| Subject: | Re: Proseal on trailing edges? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
Eric,
I didn't use proseal on my rudder and it came out really nice (IMHO of
course). I live in Iowa, but if I don't think I'd go for the proseal even if
I lived on the coast. If corrosion is a big concern just do a nice job of
primering.
On a related note, a friend of mine building a 9A gave me the idea of
fabricating a squeezer set at just the right angle so you can squeeze the
trailing edge rivets instead of the more complex "back rivet half set and
then change the angle of the gun" technique as per plans. All you have to do
is grind down a flat set to match the trailing edge angle and figure out a
way to keep it square in the squeezer (I just used tape). I put the angled
set on top and a regular flat set on bottom and just went down the line.
I'm sure there are other solutions out there but I think the results of me
back riveting wouldn't have been as nice as using the modified squeezer set.
-Brian
N211BD
#10497
www.n211bd.org
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From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Proseal on trailing edges?
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> I am on my way to Alexander to start my tail in a couple weeks. My
> question is whether or not I need to proseal the trailing edges, and if
> so, is it even feasible at Alexander? I live in Baton Rouge, LA so
> humidity and moisture (read corrosion) are of concern. I would like to
> poll the audience and open the floodgates. I would love to hear what most
> of you have done, especially any one else living in a coastal area or that
> went to Alexander. Also if anyome has the first couple pages scanned or
> emailable in someway that I can review before going it would be much
> appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Eric Kallio
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| Subject: | Proseal on trailing edges? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Before dismissing the use of Proseal on trailing edge riveting, you
should have a comfort with the term "faying action" which is the
equivalent to the wicking of liquids between two solid objects. You did
say Louisiana. There is a reason that primers and topcoats use the
exposure to moisture and salt spray as the baseline test for protection.
Primer doesn't stop it with either skin overlaps or trailing edge
construction. If you really want to get granular you can also research
"hydrogen Embrittlement" while your learning.
Proseal is also excellent on the terminal ends and fasteners used to
complete the many bonding straps between movable control surfaces to the
main airframe. The bonding straps are used to release P static buildup
from dust or moisture in the air.
Alexander's should be a good source for answers to such questions.
Without resurrecting the discussion here you can ask them about
conversion treatments and primer applications as well.
John - $00.02
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Sponcil
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Proseal on trailing edges?
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil"
<bsponcil@belinblank.org>
Eric,
I didn't use proseal on my rudder and it came out really nice (IMHO of
course). I live in Iowa, but if I don't think I'd go for the proseal
even if
I lived on the coast. If corrosion is a big concern just do a nice job
of
primering.
-Brian
N211BD
#10497
www.n211bd.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Proseal on trailing edges?
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
>
> I am on my way to Alexander to start my tail in a couple weeks. My
> question is whether or not I need to proseal the trailing edges, and
if
> so, is it even feasible at Alexander? I live in Baton Rouge, LA so
> humidity and moisture (read corrosion) are of concern. I would like to
> poll the audience and open the floodgates. I would love to hear what
most
> of you have done, especially any one else living in a coastal area or
that
> went to Alexander. Also if anyome has the first couple pages scanned
or
> emailable in someway that I can review before going it would be much
> appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Eric Kallio
> 40518
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=7804#7804
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
Can't think of the # right off hand, but it is a PPG epoxy filler primer.
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| Subject: | Re: shipping costs |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
Jerry Grimmonpre wrote:
> Tony Partain is the private shipper, his number ... 1-800-774-0828 ...
> would you have to pay tax going into Canada?
> Jerry Grimmonpre' RV8A
Anyone have an e-mail address for Tony?
-Dj
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Try Tony at tpartain@bendbroadband.com
Larry
Dj Merrill wrote:
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>Jerry Grimmonpre wrote:
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>>Tony Partain is the private shipper, his number ... 1-800-774-0828 ...
>>would you have to pay tax going into Canada?
>>Jerry Grimmonpre' RV8A
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