RV10-List Digest Archive

Thu 02/09/06


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:32 AM - Re: W&B Paperwork (Tim Olson)
     2. 05:42 AM - Re: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
     3. 06:06 AM - Re: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer (bruce breckenridge)
     4. 06:40 AM - Re: Plans Section 26 and 29 - dimpling (Nikolaos Napoli)
     5. 12:26 PM - VM1000C (rob kermanj)
     6. 01:54 PM - Re: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
     7. 02:04 PM - Re: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer (Jeff Dalton)
     8. 06:04 PM - Toggle Switch Breakers (Marcus Cooper)
     9. 06:23 PM - Re: Toggle Switch Breakers (rob kermanj)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:32:34 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: W&B Paperwork
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Just wanted to let the group know that you can disregard the request. I'm out in Oregon now. Tim Tim Olson wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Wondering if anyone who has their W&B paperwork that came with the > kit...the W&B how-to that Van's supplied, could fax it to me. > I'm heading out on a flight to Van's today and can't find > mine and would like to have it to work through while I travel. > My fax-to-email is 715-858-1681 > Would be really grateful. > Thanks, > Tim > > do not archive


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    Time: 05:42:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    They are sending one out to you, because you contacted them, or they are sending one out to everybody? TDT 40025 do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of AndrewTR30@aol.com Sent: Thu 2/9/2006 12:11 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer I e-mailed Vans about it and they are sending one out. Andrew Rayhill Finishing Wings (and re-visiting VS) Phoenix


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    Time: 06:06:05 AM PST US
    From: bruce breckenridge <bbreckenridge@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer
    --> RV10-List message posted by: bruce breckenridge <bbreckenridge@gmail.com> Talk about speedy service! Got home yesterday and the part was in a #10 envelope with the instructions wrapped around it. Bruce


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    Time: 06:40:20 AM PST US
    From: Nikolaos Napoli <owl40188@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Plans Section 26 and 29 - dimpling
    I had contacted Vans about this also. Their response was: "The holes in F-1015A that correspond to the flush rivets in the skin as shown on 29-17 need to be dimpled. If you didn't dimple the row of holes nearest the bottom skin in the rib, you can use AN470AD4 rivets if you want to." What I have done is order a dimpling tool from Avery which is used in a rivet gun. This allows you to put a decent amount of force on it. The tool is a bit awakward in tight places but I managed to use it. additionally if you have a slightly large dimple die like the ones used for the fuel tanks that will help also. Niko 40188 ----- Original Message ---- From: PJ Seipel <seipel@seznam.cz> Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:27:03 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Plans Section 26 and 29 - dimpling --> RV10-List message posted by: PJ Seipel <seipel@seznam.cz> I dimpled the top half of the 1015A and then countersunk the part that overlaps with the 1015B. I dimpled the F1070 side skins. PJ RV-10 #40032 McGANN wrote: > Hi all, > > My tribulations with Section 29 and the side skins continue. > > Following is a query to Vans: > > "I did not notice anything in the plans about dimpling F-1015B intercostals or F-1015A Outboard Footwell ribs in Section 26. Section 29 calls for AN426 rivets and seems to assume that the understructure has been countersunk or dimpled. The top half of the F1015B behind the F-1015F can be readily dimpled, as can most holes in the F-1015A (using a pop rivet dimpler). I cannot however dimple the overlap between the 1015B and 1015A (insufficient dimpling pressure from the pop rivet dies to dimple both skins together). > > Is countersinking the F1070 side skins for 426 rivets (rather than dimpling the skins and understructure) acceptable along the vertical row of holes joining the skin, 1015A and 1015B?" > > Vans Response: > > "We have recently discovered this, and will be revising the instructions slightly. > > In your case, rather than c'sinking the skins, engineering suggests that you drill the holes that won't/can't dimple to #30 and installing 470AD4 rivets. These are inside the profile of the wing and won't be seen when the wing and root fairing are installed." > > If I remember right, Section 26 does not address preparation of the F1015A at all. > > Vans acknowledges a deficiency in the plans. For those that have preceded, how did you treat this issue? Is there some other way of dimpling these overlapping parts? > > thx, > > Ron #187 > > > > >


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    Time: 12:26:25 PM PST US
    From: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
    Subject: VM1000C
    --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net> > Hello Everyone. Vision Microsystem has their color engine monitor on > sale this month. The price is $2180-$2295 (6 cylinder) depending on > where it is purchased. I just hooked up mine and really like it. It > comes with all the probes, wires, connectors, etc. > > do not archive > > > Rob Kermanj rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net


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    Time: 01:54:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> I just got off the phone with Van's. They are automatically sending them out over the next week or so. Bob #40105 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami Britton Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:02 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net> So, will these parts automatically be sent out or do we need to contact Vans??? Bill Britton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Rosen" <LarryRosen@comcast.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 2:21 PM Subject: RV10-List: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer > --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> > > This is from a post by Andrew on VAF. > Just ran across this tonight. > <http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-3.pdf> > > Looks like I will have some rework. > > -- > > Larry Rosen > RV-10 #356 > http://lrosen.nerv10.com > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > >


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    Time: 02:04:27 PM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dalton" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jeff Dalton" <jdalton77@comcast.net> I was just about to close up the VS too. Caught a break this time. I'm sure they'll be other ones I don't catch though! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 4:53 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> > > I just got off the phone with Van's. They are automatically sending > them out over the next week or so. > > Bob #40105 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami > Britton > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:02 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" > <william@gbta.net> > > So, will these parts automatically be sent out or do we need to contact > Vans??? > > Bill Britton > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Rosen" <LarryRosen@comcast.net> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 2:21 PM > Subject: RV10-List: Service Bulletin SB 06-2-3 Vertical Stabilizer > > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> >> >> This is from a post by Andrew on VAF. >> Just ran across this tonight. >> <http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-2-3.pdf> >> >> Looks like I will have some rework. >> >> -- >> >> Larry Rosen >> RV-10 #356 >> http://lrosen.nerv10.com >> >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 06:04:15 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Toggle Switch Breakers
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net> I'm going to check out my Aeroelectric book, but I was wondering if there are any thoughts out there regarding the combo toggle switch/circuit breakers (model W31 on Stein Air's site)? Seems like a pretty simple way to go, am I missing something? Thanks, Marcus (Hey Razor!) Do Not Archive


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    Time: 06:23:06 PM PST US
    From: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Toggle Switch Breakers
    --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net> I used these switched wherever I needed a CB and a switch. They simplify the wiring. I have a few friends using these in their RVs without any problems. I don't think that you are missing anything. rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 9, 2006, at 8:59 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" > <coop85@bellsouth.net> > > I'm going to check out my Aeroelectric book, but I was wondering if > there > are any thoughts out there regarding the combo toggle switch/circuit > breakers (model W31 on Stein Air's site)? Seems like a pretty > simple way to > go, am I missing something? > > Thanks, > Marcus > > (Hey Razor!) > > Do Not Archive > >




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