RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 02/13/06


Total Messages Posted: 39



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     1. 01:03 AM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (John Cram)
     2. 03:35 AM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (rob kermanj)
     3. 04:18 AM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (Wayne Edgerton)
     4. 04:34 AM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (Jack Sargeant)
     5. 04:41 AM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (Tim Olson)
     6. 04:53 AM - Re: To/From Avionics Question (Harris, Jeremy P)
     7. 05:30 AM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (Gary Specketer)
     8. 05:36 AM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (zackrv8)
     9. 05:40 AM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (Bill and Tami Britton)
    10. 05:58 AM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (bob.kaufmann)
    11. 06:41 AM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
    12. 07:04 AM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (Tim Olson)
    13. 07:12 AM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
    14. 08:53 AM - Overhead Lights (Conti, Rick)
    15. 09:46 AM - Re: Overhead Lights (Tim Olson)
    16. 10:52 AM - Re: Overhead Lights (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
    17. 12:17 PM - Re: Overhead Lights (Sam Marlow)
    18. 12:42 PM - Re: Overhead Lights (Conti, Rick)
    19. 01:15 PM - Re: Overhead Lights (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
    20. 01:17 PM - Re: Overhead Lights (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
    21. 01:21 PM - Re: Overhead Lights (rob kermanj)
    22. 02:45 PM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (Brian Sponcil)
    23. 02:47 PM - Re: Re: Plans Section 26 and 29 - dimpling ()
    24. 03:01 PM - Painting (Brian Sponcil)
    25. 03:24 PM - Re: Painting (John Hasbrouck)
    26. 03:34 PM - Re: Painting (John Cram)
    27. 03:38 PM - Re: Painting (Randy Lervold)
    28. 03:44 PM - Re: Painting (James Hein)
    29. 04:06 PM - Re: Painting (Carl Froehlich)
    30. 04:54 PM - Re: Edge distance on WD-1002 - Steel firewall fittings (Nikolaos Napoli)
    31. 05:00 PM - Re: Overhead Lights (Tim Olson)
    32. 05:03 PM - Re: Painting (Tim Olson)
    33. 05:16 PM - Total RV count (Tim Olson)
    34. 06:14 PM - Re: Painting (Rick)
    35. 06:19 PM - Re: Total RV count ()
    36. 07:22 PM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
    37. 07:39 PM - Re: Painting (zackrv8)
    38. 07:43 PM - gascolator (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
    39. 08:45 PM - Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 (Tim Olson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:03:55 AM PST US
    From: "John Cram" <johncram@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    Tim, from a future builder just wanted to let u know how much I have enjoyed keeping up with ur project. Great Job. John Cram ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Olson<mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: RV10-List: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 Today was my lucky day. I have to pass on the news that RV-10 N104CD took to the air for it's first flight this afternoon. The takeoff was amazing, and once off the ground that IO-540 kicked me in the pants with it's acceleration. This was a definite difference from what I saw with N220RV. Within what seemed like seconds I was at 3500' AGL, as I was climbing at 2200 fpm. It flew absolutely hands-off, with no need for aileron or rudder trim, although aileron trim is installed on the plane. I flew some lazy circles around the airport and then decided that I needed to show my face to the crowd that had come in support today. I set up for my first landing, slowed it down and put her gently back on the runway for a completely non-eventful landing, just the way it should be. I had to take it back up one more time just to waste the rest of the daylight, and I put over an hour on it for the day. There's no wheel pants on it yet, so I don't have any good speed numbers for you, but I know I was over 150 KTS for the flight (no mph for this guy). The Chelton system worked great, and when I turned on the Autopilot it flew using both GPSS and GPSV and tracked a course to the airport chosen on the EFIS. I'll now have to spend the next few hours getting some of the instrument calibrations perfected, and finishing up those wheel pants for our upcoming trip to Sun-N-Fun in Florida. Just wanted to pass on the news! Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170


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    Time: 03:35:16 AM PST US
    From: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net> Congratulations! I envy you. Your paint scheme looks very nice too. rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 12, 2006, at 8:26 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > Today was my lucky day. I have to pass on the news that RV-10 > N104CD took to the air for it's first flight this afternoon. > > The takeoff was amazing, and once off the ground that IO-540 kicked > me in the pants with it's acceleration. This was a definite > difference > from what I saw with N220RV. Within what seemed like seconds I was > at 3500' AGL, as I was climbing at 2200 fpm. It flew absolutely > hands-off, with no need for aileron or rudder trim, although aileron > trim is installed on the plane. I flew some lazy circles around the > airport and then decided that I needed to show my face to the crowd > that had come in support today. > > I set up for my first landing, slowed it down and put her gently > back on the runway for a completely non-eventful landing, just > the way it should be. I had to take it back up one more time > just to waste the rest of the daylight, and I put over an hour on > it for the day. There's no wheel pants on it yet, so I don't > have any good speed numbers for you, but I know I was over 150 KTS > for the flight (no mph for this guy). > > The Chelton system worked great, and when I turned on the Autopilot > it flew using both GPSS and GPSV and tracked a course to the airport > chosen on the EFIS. > > I'll now have to spend the next few hours getting some of the > instrument calibrations perfected, and finishing up those wheel pants > for our upcoming trip to Sun-N-Fun in Florida. > > Just wanted to pass on the news! > Tim > > -- > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 > <86560148609_01_BG.jpg>


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    Time: 04:18:01 AM PST US
    From: "Wayne Edgerton" <weeav8ter@grandecom.net>
    Subject: Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    Congratulations Tim on your great accomplishment. I can only imagine the sense of pride you and your family must feel. With all the time you have spent on building and maintaining your web site I imagine your wife has a big RV grin on her face just knowing that she may have you back available more often. She seems like a very supportive wife, based on all of your pictures. Thanks for sharing with all of us your journey, it really has help me, and I'm sure many others, at times as I progress through my building.


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    Time: 04:34:12 AM PST US
    From: "Jack Sargeant" <k5wiv@amsat.org>
    Subject: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jack Sargeant" <k5wiv@amsat.org> Congratulations Tim, from a wana-be 10 builder. I won't be at SnF, but plan to spend the whole week at AirVenture this year and to give every 10 there a close inspection. Hope to wee you there. Jack & Cecilia Sargeant 1127 Patricia St. Wichita, KS 67208-2642 316/682-5268 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:26 PM Subject: RV10-List: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 Today was my lucky day. I have to pass on the news that RV-10 N104CD took to the air for it's first flight this afternoon. The takeoff was amazing, and once off the ground that IO-540 kicked me in the pants with it's acceleration. This was a definite difference from what I saw with N220RV. Within what seemed like seconds I was at 3500' AGL, as I was climbing at 2200 fpm. It flew absolutely hands-off, with no need for aileron or rudder trim, although aileron trim is installed on the plane. I flew some lazy circles around the airport and then decided that I needed to show my face to the crowd that had come in support today. I set up for my first landing, slowed it down and put her gently back on the runway for a completely non-eventful landing, just the way it should be. I had to take it back up one more time just to waste the rest of the daylight, and I put over an hour on it for the day. There's no wheel pants on it yet, so I don't have any good speed numbers for you, but I know I was over 150 KTS for the flight (no mph for this guy). The Chelton system worked great, and when I turned on the Autopilot it flew using both GPSS and GPSV and tracked a course to the airport chosen on the EFIS. I'll now have to spend the next few hours getting some of the instrument calibrations perfected, and finishing up those wheel pants for our upcoming trip to Sun-N-Fun in Florida. Just wanted to pass on the news! Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170


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    Time: 04:41:41 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Thanks Wayne (and thanks to the others who are sending both to the list or personal messages (don't forget your do not archive (s) if you send to the list. ;) ) It really has been a great feeling. Just to comfort the unflying, once you get the panel and finishing kit complete, the final wrap-up time goes by quick. Really from finish paint forward, it's much more fun. The painting and canopy/door stage is kind of like the "weed out" test for builders....if you make it though that, you're home free. As for my wife, I think she's just as happy for me, and yes, she's absolutely the best wife in the world for me. She was supportive, understanding, and allowed me to be as dedicated as I could. I did try to give a little balance by ensuring some time with the family each week, but the last 2 weeks were harder for the kids, which is why I picked up the pace and worked longer nights. It's much less convenient to work when it's at the hanger than when it's at home, so I tried to shorten that time. We're all ready to start flying places and seeing things. Just need to get those wheel pants done and the flyoff completed. Everyone just keep pounding away. I may have been about #26 complete, but since I'm kit #170, there must be a ton of you who are not that far away...and I hear we're now either almost to, or just passing the 600 mark, so we're going to be a heck of a crew soon! Tim DO NOT ARCHIVE Wayne Edgerton wrote: > Congratulations Tim on your great accomplishment. I can only imagine the > sense of pride you and your family must feel. With all the time you have > spent on building and maintaining your web site I imagine your wife has > a big RV grin on her face just knowing that she may have you > back available more often. She seems like a very supportive wife, based > on all of your pictures. > > Thanks for sharing with all of us your journey, it really has help me, > and I'm sure many others, at times as I progress through my building.


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    Time: 04:53:17 AM PST US
    Subject: To/From Avionics Question
    From: "Harris, Jeremy P" <jeremy.p.harris@boeing.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Harris, Jeremy P" <jeremy.p.harris@boeing.com> The GPS can also give to/from flag indications when flying to a GPS waypoint, just like a VOR. Jeremy P. Harris Integrated Missile Defense BMDS Architectures Lab The Boeing Company Washington, DC Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T Cell: (703) 627-6500 Fax: (703) 414-6372 MC: 793C-G007 Office: 825B -----Original Message----- From: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net [mailto:n223rv@wolflakeairport.net] Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 3:50 PM Subject: RV10-List: To/From Avionics Question --> RV10-List message posted by: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net Can someone tell me what the "+To" and "+From" wires from a nav radio actually do? What data do they send? I have them on my SL30 and it would seem like it sends data that states you are TO or FROM a VOR, but I have the same outputs on my GX60 which is a IFR certified GPS/Comm and I would not expect it on that unit if they were relating to a VOR. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -Mike Kraus


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    Time: 05:30:02 AM PST US
    From: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
    Subject: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net> Congratulations. When I get back to MN I will pay you a visit and oooo and ah ah ah over your new bird. Gary -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: RV10-List: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 Today was my lucky day. I have to pass on the news that RV-10 N104CD took to the air for it's first flight this afternoon. The takeoff was amazing, and once off the ground that IO-540 kicked me in the pants with it's acceleration. This was a definite difference from what I saw with N220RV. Within what seemed like seconds I was at 3500' AGL, as I was climbing at 2200 fpm. It flew absolutely hands-off, with no need for aileron or rudder trim, although aileron trim is installed on the plane. I flew some lazy circles around the airport and then decided that I needed to show my face to the crowd that had come in support today. I set up for my first landing, slowed it down and put her gently back on the runway for a completely non-eventful landing, just the way it should be. I had to take it back up one more time just to waste the rest of the daylight, and I put over an hour on it for the day. There's no wheel pants on it yet, so I don't have any good speed numbers for you, but I know I was over 150 KTS for the flight (no mph for this guy). The Chelton system worked great, and when I turned on the Autopilot it flew using both GPSS and GPSV and tracked a course to the airport chosen on the EFIS. I'll now have to spend the next few hours getting some of the instrument calibrations perfected, and finishing up those wheel pants for our upcoming trip to Sun-N-Fun in Florida. Just wanted to pass on the news! Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170


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    Time: 05:36:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> Tim, Congratulations! Joe "Zack" Czachorowski -------- RV8 #80125 RV10 # 40512 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=11808#11808


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    Time: 05:40:03 AM PST US
    From: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
    Subject: Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net> Awesome!!! That's great news Tim. And WOW, you really did fly through the last of the building/final assembly stage. Probably why we haven't heard much from you in the last couple weeks. Anyway, we can all hope you continue on with discussions on the lists. Your knowledge and instruction has definitely been a huge help to me!!! Congratulations, Bill Britton RV-10 #40137 Tailcone ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:26 PM Subject: RV10-List: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 > Today was my lucky day. I have to pass on the news that RV-10 > N104CD took to the air for it's first flight this afternoon. > > The takeoff was amazing, and once off the ground that IO-540 kicked > me in the pants with it's acceleration. This was a definite difference > from what I saw with N220RV. Within what seemed like seconds I was at > 3500' AGL, as I was climbing at 2200 fpm. It flew absolutely > hands-off, with no need for aileron or rudder trim, although aileron > trim is installed on the plane. I flew some lazy circles around the > airport and then decided that I needed to show my face to the crowd > that had come in support today. > > I set up for my first landing, slowed it down and put her gently > back on the runway for a completely non-eventful landing, just > the way it should be. I had to take it back up one more time > just to waste the rest of the daylight, and I put over an hour on > it for the day. There's no wheel pants on it yet, so I don't > have any good speed numbers for you, but I know I was over 150 KTS > for the flight (no mph for this guy). > > The Chelton system worked great, and when I turned on the Autopilot > it flew using both GPSS and GPSV and tracked a course to the airport > chosen on the EFIS. > > I'll now have to spend the next few hours getting some of the > instrument calibrations perfected, and finishing up those wheel pants > for our upcoming trip to Sun-N-Fun in Florida. > > Just wanted to pass on the news! > Tim > > -- > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 >


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    Time: 05:58:07 AM PST US
    From: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
    Subject: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net> Congrats on the flight. Love your web site and go there every day. Bob K Forward fuselage top skin 40125 which will be N104BK -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: RV10-List: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 Today was my lucky day. I have to pass on the news that RV-10 N104CD took to the air for it's first flight this afternoon. The takeoff was amazing, and once off the ground that IO-540 kicked me in the pants with it's acceleration. This was a definite difference from what I saw with N220RV. Within what seemed like seconds I was at 3500' AGL, as I was climbing at 2200 fpm. It flew absolutely hands-off, with no need for aileron or rudder trim, although aileron trim is installed on the plane. I flew some lazy circles around the airport and then decided that I needed to show my face to the crowd that had come in support today. I set up for my first landing, slowed it down and put her gently back on the runway for a completely non-eventful landing, just the way it should be. I had to take it back up one more time just to waste the rest of the daylight, and I put over an hour on it for the day. There's no wheel pants on it yet, so I don't have any good speed numbers for you, but I know I was over 150 KTS for the flight (no mph for this guy). The Chelton system worked great, and when I turned on the Autopilot it flew using both GPSS and GPSV and tracked a course to the airport chosen on the EFIS. I'll now have to spend the next few hours getting some of the instrument calibrations perfected, and finishing up those wheel pants for our upcoming trip to Sun-N-Fun in Florida. Just wanted to pass on the news! Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170


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    Time: 06:41:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> Congratulations Tim. I'm amazed at how fast things come together in the end. How many hours did you get for a flyoff and were there any details you can share on the DAR inspection? Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:26 PM Subject: RV10-List: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 Today was my lucky day. I have to pass on the news that RV-10 N104CD took to the air for it's first flight this afternoon. The takeoff was amazing, and once off the ground that IO-540 kicked me in the pants with it's acceleration. This was a definite difference from what I saw with N220RV. Within what seemed like seconds I was at 3500' AGL, as I was climbing at 2200 fpm. It flew absolutely hands-off, with no need for aileron or rudder trim, although aileron trim is installed on the plane. I flew some lazy circles around the airport and then decided that I needed to show my face to the crowd that had come in support today. I set up for my first landing, slowed it down and put her gently back on the runway for a completely non-eventful landing, just the way it should be. I had to take it back up one more time just to waste the rest of the daylight, and I put over an hour on it for the day. There's no wheel pants on it yet, so I don't have any good speed numbers for you, but I know I was over 150 KTS for the flight (no mph for this guy). The Chelton system worked great, and when I turned on the Autopilot it flew using both GPSS and GPSV and tracked a course to the airport chosen on the EFIS. I'll now have to spend the next few hours getting some of the instrument calibrations perfected, and finishing up those wheel pants for our upcoming trip to Sun-N-Fun in Florida. Just wanted to pass on the news! Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170


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    Time: 07:04:49 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Thanks Ray! A lot of people are asking about the flyoff time. Sorry I haven't had a chance to write it up on my website yet. My DAR asked well before the inspection what Engine I had (Lyc) and which Prop (Hartzell) and he was very quick to respond when I gave him the replies that this was a good thing because I'd only have a 25 hour flyoff. He didn't care that I had one Lightspeed ignition and one Mag. Also, I never did finish choosing an interior dome light, and of course my Aux. Alternator will be added later. On those items I put a piece of Brother P-Touch label over the panel label that said "INOP" and he was glad to see that. One other thing...don't forget that you need a compass correction card. The night before I printed a simple one out and just taped it on the panel under the compass. You don't have to fill it in, but it needs to be there. He did not make me have a Pitot test before flight, but warned me to get a Pitot Static for IFR before I fly IFR. I plan to do that anyway. I also plan to do a dynamic balance on the prop, just to waste some more money...it helped on my old plane. Make sure you get some red Silicone RTV and use it to secure wires in your engine compartment. Some of my photos may show this well. They really liked that. Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Now FLYING! DO NOT ARCHIVE Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> > > Congratulations Tim. I'm amazed at how fast things come > together in the end. How many hours did you get for a flyoff and were > there any details you can share on the DAR inspection? > > > > Thank You > Ray Doerr > 40250 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:26 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 > > Today was my lucky day. I have to pass on the news that RV-10 > N104CD took to the air for it's first flight this afternoon. > > The takeoff was amazing, and once off the ground that IO-540 kicked > me in the pants with it's acceleration. This was a definite difference > from what I saw with N220RV. Within what seemed like seconds I was at > 3500' AGL, as I was climbing at 2200 fpm. It flew absolutely > hands-off, with no need for aileron or rudder trim, although aileron > trim is installed on the plane. I flew some lazy circles around the > airport and then decided that I needed to show my face to the crowd > that had come in support today. > > I set up for my first landing, slowed it down and put her gently > back on the runway for a completely non-eventful landing, just > the way it should be. I had to take it back up one more time > just to waste the rest of the daylight, and I put over an hour on > it for the day. There's no wheel pants on it yet, so I don't > have any good speed numbers for you, but I know I was over 150 KTS > for the flight (no mph for this guy). > > The Chelton system worked great, and when I turned on the Autopilot > it flew using both GPSS and GPSV and tracked a course to the airport > chosen on the EFIS. > > I'll now have to spend the next few hours getting some of the > instrument calibrations perfected, and finishing up those wheel pants > for our upcoming trip to Sun-N-Fun in Florida. > > Just wanted to pass on the news! > Tim >


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    Time: 07:12:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Congratulations Tim! Bob #40105 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:26 PM Subject: RV10-List: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 Today was my lucky day. I have to pass on the news that RV-10 N104CD took to the air for it's first flight this afternoon. The takeoff was amazing, and once off the ground that IO-540 kicked me in the pants with it's acceleration. This was a definite difference from what I saw with N220RV. Within what seemed like seconds I was at 3500' AGL, as I was climbing at 2200 fpm. It flew absolutely hands-off, with no need for aileron or rudder trim, although aileron trim is installed on the plane. I flew some lazy circles around the airport and then decided that I needed to show my face to the crowd that had come in support today. I set up for my first landing, slowed it down and put her gently back on the runway for a completely non-eventful landing, just the way it should be. I had to take it back up one more time just to waste the rest of the daylight, and I put over an hour on it for the day. There's no wheel pants on it yet, so I don't have any good speed numbers for you, but I know I was over 150 KTS for the flight (no mph for this guy). The Chelton system worked great, and when I turned on the Autopilot it flew using both GPSS and GPSV and tracked a course to the airport chosen on the EFIS. I'll now have to spend the next few hours getting some of the instrument calibrations perfected, and finishing up those wheel pants for our upcoming trip to Sun-N-Fun in Florida. Just wanted to pass on the news! Tim -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170


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    Time: 08:53:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Overhead Lights
    From: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> Congratulations Tim!! I am at the point where I need to install overhead lighting. For those of you who have completed this step, how did you attach the lights and what "model" lights did you use? Where did you run the wires? I know the LEDs are very popular. I am considering swivel reading lights over the back seats. Also, did anyone install sound proofing in the roof? As an aside, I am giving very serious thought to installing an armrest ('98 Cadillac DeVille armrest measures very nicely) between the rear seats. It looks like it can easily be attached to the angle of the seat backs and rotate up/down. The cup holder and space within would be very useful. I think passengers can only sit for so long with their hands in their lap. I'll keep you posted on the feasibility. Prices so far from junk yards are $125 plus shipping. One may fit between the front seats as well, don't know yet. Thank You Rick Conti Senior Engineering Manager The Boeing Company office: 703 - 414 - 6141 blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134


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    Time: 09:46:35 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Lights
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I wish I could help, but I gave up for the time being on the overhead lights. I have a combo WSI/GPS antenna mounted just aft of that support tube on the roof, so I have ground and antenna wires to hide...so I really need a thin console type light for that area to hide it. I think swivel lights would be nice, the smaller the better. I don't think you'll need much for soundproofing on the roof. You'll appreciate it on the floors and firewall/sidewalls though. I think your armrest in the rear seat should be a breeze to do. Good luck Rick, and if anyone knows of a good console that isn't too thick, let me know. I may just have to resort to building one myself. I do plan to build a quadrant cover too. Tim Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Now FLYING! DO NOT ARCHIVE Conti, Rick wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > > Congratulations Tim!! > > I am at the point where I need to install overhead lighting. For those > of you who have completed this step, how did you attach the lights and > what "model" lights did you use? Where did you run the wires? I know > the LEDs are very popular. I am considering swivel reading lights over > the back seats. Also, did anyone install sound proofing in the roof? > > As an aside, I am giving very serious thought to installing an armrest > ('98 Cadillac DeVille armrest measures very nicely) between the rear > seats. It looks like it can easily be attached to the angle of the seat > backs and rotate up/down. The cup holder and space within would be very > useful. I think passengers can only sit for so long with their hands in > their lap. I'll keep you posted on the feasibility. Prices so far from > junk yards are $125 plus shipping. One may fit between the front seats > as well, don't know yet. > > Thank You > Rick Conti > Senior Engineering Manager > The Boeing Company > office: 703 - 414 - 6141 > blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:52:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Overhead Lights
    From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> I ran my wires for the top canopy in the lip by the windshield. I tack glued them in place and then used epoxy filler to fill over it to create a better looking pillar from the inside. It turn out great. I installed two red LED swivel lights from Stein Air in the roof. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:51 AM Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Lights --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> Congratulations Tim!! I am at the point where I need to install overhead lighting. For those of you who have completed this step, how did you attach the lights and what "model" lights did you use? Where did you run the wires? I know the LEDs are very popular. I am considering swivel reading lights over the back seats. Also, did anyone install sound proofing in the roof? As an aside, I am giving very serious thought to installing an armrest ('98 Cadillac DeVille armrest measures very nicely) between the rear seats. It looks like it can easily be attached to the angle of the seat backs and rotate up/down. The cup holder and space within would be very useful. I think passengers can only sit for so long with their hands in their lap. I'll keep you posted on the feasibility. Prices so far from junk yards are $125 plus shipping. One may fit between the front seats as well, don't know yet. Thank You Rick Conti Senior Engineering Manager The Boeing Company office: 703 - 414 - 6141 blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134


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    Time: 12:17:06 PM PST US
    From: Sam Marlow <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Lights
    Do you have pic? Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> > > I ran my wires for the top canopy in the lip by the windshield. >I tack glued them in place and then used epoxy filler to fill over it to >create a better looking pillar from the inside. It turn out great. I >installed two red LED swivel lights from Stein Air in the roof. > >Thank You >Ray Doerr >40250 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick >Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:51 AM >To: RV 10 >Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Lights > >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > >Congratulations Tim!! > >I am at the point where I need to install overhead lighting. For those >of you who have completed this step, how did you attach the lights and >what "model" lights did you use? Where did you run the wires? I know >the LEDs are very popular. I am considering swivel reading lights over >the back seats. Also, did anyone install sound proofing in the roof? > >As an aside, I am giving very serious thought to installing an armrest >('98 Cadillac DeVille armrest measures very nicely) between the rear >seats. It looks like it can easily be attached to the angle of the seat >backs and rotate up/down. The cup holder and space within would be very >useful. I think passengers can only sit for so long with their hands in >their lap. I'll keep you posted on the feasibility. Prices so far from >junk yards are $125 plus shipping. One may fit between the front seats >as well, don't know yet. > >Thank You >Rick Conti >Senior Engineering Manager >The Boeing Company > office: 703 - 414 - 6141 >blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134 > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 12:42:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Overhead Lights
    From: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> How did you attached the lights? Thank You Rick Conti office: 703-414-6141 cell: 571-215-6134 -----Original Message----- From: Doerr, Ray R [NTK] [mailto:Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:51 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Lights --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> I ran my wires for the top canopy in the lip by the windshield. I tack glued them in place and then used epoxy filler to fill over it to create a better looking pillar from the inside. It turn out great. I installed two red LED swivel lights from Stein Air in the roof. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:51 AM Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Lights --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> Congratulations Tim!! I am at the point where I need to install overhead lighting. For those of you who have completed this step, how did you attach the lights and what "model" lights did you use? Where did you run the wires? I know the LEDs are very popular. I am considering swivel reading lights over the back seats. Also, did anyone install sound proofing in the roof? As an aside, I am giving very serious thought to installing an armrest ('98 Cadillac DeVille armrest measures very nicely) between the rear seats. It looks like it can easily be attached to the angle of the seat backs and rotate up/down. The cup holder and space within would be very useful. I think passengers can only sit for so long with their hands in their lap. I'll keep you posted on the feasibility. Prices so far from junk yards are $125 plus shipping. One may fit between the front seats as well, don't know yet. Thank You Rick Conti Senior Engineering Manager The Boeing Company office: 703 - 414 - 6141 blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134


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    Time: 01:15:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Overhead Lights
    From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
    They aren't the greatest but they are all I had with me at work. You can see the three wires coming out of the bottom by the front pillar on the passenger side. The wires run up on the inside to the center of the canopy and then I drilled a tiny hole for then to run into the foam which is in the top lid and then they come out the 1 =BD" holes I drilled on the inside top. I removed about =BD" of the foam and then glassed in the bottom again. This will allow the swivel eyeball to move freely. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:15 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Lights Do you have pic? Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> <mailto:Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> I ran my wires for the top canopy in the lip by the windshield. I tack glued them in place and then used epoxy filler to fill over it to create a better looking pillar from the inside. It turn out great. I installed two red LED swivel lights from Stein Air in the roof. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:51 AM Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Lights --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> <mailto:rick.conti@boeing.com> Congratulations Tim!! I am at the point where I need to install overhead lighting. For those of you who have completed this step, how did you attach the lights and what "model" lights did you use? Where did you run the wires? I know the LEDs are very popular. I am considering swivel reading lights over the back seats. Also, did anyone install sound proofing in the roof? As an aside, I am giving very serious thought to installing an armrest ('98 Cadillac DeVille armrest measures very nicely) between the rear seats. It looks like it can easily be attached to the angle of the seat backs and rotate up/down. The cup holder and space within would be very useful. I think passengers can only sit for so long with their hands in their lap. I'll keep you posted on the feasibility. Prices so far from junk yards are $125 plus shipping. One may fit between the front seats as well, don't know yet. Thank You Rick Conti Senior Engineering Manager The Boeing Company office: 703 - 414 - 6141 blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134


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    Time: 01:17:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Overhead Lights
    From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> I plan on creating a hard backing that my material will glue to and the lights will mount to it. This is going to cover the top over the pilot and copilot side to cover the bolts for the doors and run aft to where the roof height increase 1". Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 2:41 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Lights --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> How did you attached the lights? Thank You Rick Conti office: 703-414-6141 cell: 571-215-6134 -----Original Message----- From: Doerr, Ray R [NTK] [mailto:Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com] Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:51 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Lights --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> I ran my wires for the top canopy in the lip by the windshield. I tack glued them in place and then used epoxy filler to fill over it to create a better looking pillar from the inside. It turn out great. I installed two red LED swivel lights from Stein Air in the roof. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:51 AM Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Lights --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> Congratulations Tim!! I am at the point where I need to install overhead lighting. For those of you who have completed this step, how did you attach the lights and what "model" lights did you use? Where did you run the wires? I know the LEDs are very popular. I am considering swivel reading lights over the back seats. Also, did anyone install sound proofing in the roof? As an aside, I am giving very serious thought to installing an armrest ('98 Cadillac DeVille armrest measures very nicely) between the rear seats. It looks like it can easily be attached to the angle of the seat backs and rotate up/down. The cup holder and space within would be very useful. I think passengers can only sit for so long with their hands in their lap. I'll keep you posted on the feasibility. Prices so far from junk yards are $125 plus shipping. One may fit between the front seats as well, don't know yet. Thank You Rick Conti Senior Engineering Manager The Boeing Company office: 703 - 414 - 6141 blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134


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    Time: 01:21:13 PM PST US
    From: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Lights
    --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net> How about running the wires through the windshield brace steel tube at the front canopy. Will that work? rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:40 PM, Conti, Rick wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > > How did you attached the lights? > > Thank You > Rick Conti > office: 703-414-6141 > cell: 571-215-6134 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Doerr, Ray R [NTK] [mailto:Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com] > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:51 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Lights > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" > <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> > > I ran my wires for the top canopy in the lip by the windshield. > I tack glued them in place and then used epoxy filler to fill over > it to > create a better looking pillar from the inside. It turn out great. I > installed two red LED swivel lights from Stein Air in the roof. > > Thank You > Ray Doerr > 40250 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:51 AM > To: RV 10 > Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Lights > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > > Congratulations Tim!! > > I am at the point where I need to install overhead lighting. For > those > of you who have completed this step, how did you attach the lights and > what "model" lights did you use? Where did you run the wires? I know > the LEDs are very popular. I am considering swivel reading lights > over > the back seats. Also, did anyone install sound proofing in the roof? > > As an aside, I am giving very serious thought to installing an armrest > ('98 Cadillac DeVille armrest measures very nicely) between the rear > seats. It looks like it can easily be attached to the angle of the > seat > backs and rotate up/down. The cup holder and space within would be > very > useful. I think passengers can only sit for so long with their > hands in > their lap. I'll keep you posted on the feasibility. Prices so far > from > junk yards are $125 plus shipping. One may fit between the front > seats > as well, don't know yet. > > Thank You > Rick Conti > Senior Engineering Manager > The Boeing Company > office: 703 - 414 - 6141 > blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134 > >


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    Time: 02:45:08 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
    Subject: Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org> Way to go! Geez, two years from crate to wheels off the ground is amazing. I've been pounding away since November and am still on the HS. Anyway, I hope to see N104CD at OSH this year and keep that website up and running. It's a good resource for the rest of us. -Brian N211BD #40497 DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 7:26 PM Subject: RV10-List: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006 > Today was my lucky day. I have to pass on the news that RV-10 > N104CD took to the air for it's first flight this afternoon. > > The takeoff was amazing, and once off the ground that IO-540 kicked > me in the pants with it's acceleration. This was a definite difference > from what I saw with N220RV. Within what seemed like seconds I was at > 3500' AGL, as I was climbing at 2200 fpm. It flew absolutely > hands-off, with no need for aileron or rudder trim, although aileron > trim is installed on the plane. I flew some lazy circles around the > airport and then decided that I needed to show my face to the crowd > that had come in support today. > > I set up for my first landing, slowed it down and put her gently > back on the runway for a completely non-eventful landing, just > the way it should be. I had to take it back up one more time > just to waste the rest of the daylight, and I put over an hour on > it for the day. There's no wheel pants on it yet, so I don't > have any good speed numbers for you, but I know I was over 150 KTS > for the flight (no mph for this guy). > > The Chelton system worked great, and when I turned on the Autopilot > it flew using both GPSS and GPSV and tracked a course to the airport > chosen on the EFIS. > > I'll now have to spend the next few hours getting some of the > instrument calibrations perfected, and finishing up those wheel pants > for our upcoming trip to Sun-N-Fun in Florida. > > Just wanted to pass on the news! > Tim > > -- > Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 >


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    Time: 02:47:50 PM PST US
    From: <jim@CombsFive.Com>
    Subject: Re: Plans Section 26 and 29 - dimpling
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <jim@combsfive.com> Congratulations!!!! -Jim C do not archive


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    Time: 03:01:06 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
    Subject: Painting
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org> Anyone on the list planning to paint their -10? I'm currently debating it and am wondering what others thought. I'm not considering it as a way to save money but rather as a "fun" challenge. Of course the wife thinks I'm nuts and I probably am. Still, I'm wondering if there are some people on our list that have painted a previous RV- project and would like to pass on their opinions. FWIW - a guy in our EAA chapter just finished his -7 which he painted himself in a 4 color military scheme. He was really happy with the way it turned out but said painting was a LONG and TEDIOUS process and he'd probably elect to forgo it if he ever does another project. -Brian N211BD #40497


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    Time: 03:24:36 PM PST US
    From: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Painting
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com> Brian, Check Tim Olsen's web site. He painted his -10 and it looks great!


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    Time: 03:34:50 PM PST US
    From: "John Cram" <johncram@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Painting
    Look at Tom Olsen's do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Sponcil<mailto:bsponcil@belinblank.org> To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: RV10-List: Painting --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org<mailto:bsponcil@belinblank.org>> Anyone on the list planning to paint their -10? I'm currently debating it and am wondering what others thought. I'm not considering it as a way to save money but rather as a "fun" challenge. Of course the wife thinks I'm nuts and I probably am. Still, I'm wondering if there are some people on our list that have painted a previous RV- project and would like to pass on their opinions. FWIW - a guy in our EAA chapter just finished his -7 which he painted himself in a 4 color military scheme. He was really happy with the way it turned out but said painting was a LONG and TEDIOUS process and he'd probably elect to forgo it if he ever does another project. -Brian N211BD #40497 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contribution> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


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    Time: 03:38:04 PM PST US
    From: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com>
    Subject: Re: Painting
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy Lervold" <randy@romeolima.com> > Anyone on the list planning to paint their -10? I'm currently debating it > and am wondering what others thought. I'm not considering it as a way to > save money but rather as a "fun" challenge. Of course the wife thinks I'm > nuts and I probably am. Still, I'm wondering if there are some people on > our list that have painted a previous RV- project and > would like to pass on their opinions. > > FWIW - a guy in our EAA chapter just finished his -7 which he painted > himself in a 4 color military scheme. He was really happy with the way it > turned out but said painting was a LONG and TEDIOUS process and he'd > probably elect to forgo it if he ever does another project. You know, I painted my RV-8 and didn't think it was especially long and tedious compared to other stages of the construction. Overall I'm glad I did it and plan to repeat the process for the RV-3 I'm currently building. If you're curious, my RV-8 paint experience is detailed here... http://www.romeolima.com/RV8/Paint.htm Randy Lervold www.rv-3.com www.rv-8.com


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    Time: 03:44:08 PM PST US
    From: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
    Subject: Re: Painting
    --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net> Tom? You mean Tim has a brother?! *hehe* John Cram wrote: > Look at Tom Olsen's > > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Brian Sponcil <mailto:bsponcil@belinblank.org> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2006 5:59 PM > *Subject:* RV10-List: Painting > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" > <bsponcil@belinblank.org <mailto:bsponcil@belinblank.org>> > > > Anyone on the list planning to paint their -10? I'm currently > debating it > and am wondering what others thought. I'm not considering it as a > way to > save money but rather as a "fun" challenge. Of course the wife > thinks I'm > nuts and I probably am. Still, I'm wondering if there are some > people on our > list that have painted a previous RV- project and > would > like to pass on their opinions. > > FWIW - a guy in our EAA chapter just finished his -7 which he painted > himself in a 4 color military scheme. He was really happy with the > way it > turned out but said painting was a LONG and TEDIOUS process and he'd > probably elect to forgo it if he ever does another project. > > > -Brian > > N211BD > #40497 =========================p; Navigator Photoshare, > and much much ; > title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > ">http://www.matronic========================= > generous bsp; > title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ">http://www.matronics.com/c========================================== > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:06:53 PM PST US
    From: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@cox.net>
    Subject: Painting
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@cox.net> You built the rest of the plane - why not paint it? I painted my RV-8A, I'll paint my RV-10. Paint set up was a make shift paint booth in the hanger, wings and empennage painted off the fuselage (highly recommended as you can rotate the wings while painting). I used PPG Concept base coat, clear coat. Highly recommended for the amateur painter - like me. I did a hard paint scheme that had a pearl yellow as the dominant color. The RV-10 will NOT have this color!! It does take time. I did one 400 grit wet sanding of the primer before top coat. The nice to have fiberglass touches like filling in the rib ends of the control surfaces and wing tips are the top time killers. Carl Froehlich -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Brian Sponcil Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: RV10-List: Painting --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org> Anyone on the list planning to paint their -10? I'm currently debating it and am wondering what others thought. I'm not considering it as a way to save money but rather as a "fun" challenge. Of course the wife thinks I'm nuts and I probably am. Still, I'm wondering if there are some people on our list that have painted a previous RV- project and would like to pass on their opinions. FWIW - a guy in our EAA chapter just finished his -7 which he painted himself in a 4 color military scheme. He was really happy with the way it turned out but said painting was a LONG and TEDIOUS process and he'd probably elect to forgo it if he ever does another project. -Brian N211BD #40497


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    Time: 04:54:56 PM PST US
    From: Nikolaos Napoli <owl40188@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Edge distance on WD-1002 - Steel firewall fittings
    Thanks for the reply Rick. This is an area where I was also happy I had the Cogsdill deburring tool. My edge distances are not as good as yours. They vary between 1.0 to 1.5 hole diameters. I sent Vans an email they requested pictures Niko ----- Original Message ---- From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:50:59 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Edge distance on WD-1002 - Steel firewall fittings --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick Niko, I have just about 1.50 hole distance, not quite 2 hole distance. Last check with Vans was that is was OK...others may have different ideas but the rivet will shear way before that piece of steel breaks out...this is one area the Cogsdill deburring tool really shined. Rick S. 40185 Fuselage


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    Time: 05:00:55 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Lights
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> That's how I got my antenna and light wires to the top. At the bottom end of that tube, I think only one side is hollow, but it was enough for at least 4 wires of 20-22 gauge, and 2 RG-400 coax lines. You have to be careful when drilling through your glareshield, but otherwise it works well. Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Now FLYING! DO NOT ARCHIVE rob kermanj wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net> > > How about running the wires through the windshield brace steel tube at > the front canopy. Will that work? > > rob kermanj > rv10es@earthlink.net > > > > On Feb 13, 2006, at 3:40 PM, Conti, Rick wrote: > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> >> >> How did you attached the lights? >> >> Thank You >> Rick Conti >> office: 703-414-6141 >> cell: 571-215-6134 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Doerr, Ray R [NTK] [mailto:Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com] >> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 1:51 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Lights >> >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" >> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> >> >> I ran my wires for the top canopy in the lip by the windshield. >> I tack glued them in place and then used epoxy filler to fill over it to >> create a better looking pillar from the inside. It turn out great. I >> installed two red LED swivel lights from Stein Air in the roof. >> >> Thank You >> Ray Doerr >> 40250 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick >> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:51 AM >> To: RV 10 >> Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Lights >> >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> >> >> Congratulations Tim!! >> >> I am at the point where I need to install overhead lighting. For those >> of you who have completed this step, how did you attach the lights and >> what "model" lights did you use? Where did you run the wires? I know >> the LEDs are very popular. I am considering swivel reading lights over >> the back seats. Also, did anyone install sound proofing in the roof? >> >> As an aside, I am giving very serious thought to installing an armrest >> ('98 Cadillac DeVille armrest measures very nicely) between the rear >> seats. It looks like it can easily be attached to the angle of the seat >> backs and rotate up/down. The cup holder and space within would be very >> useful. I think passengers can only sit for so long with their hands in >> their lap. I'll keep you posted on the feasibility. Prices so far from >> junk yards are $125 plus shipping. One may fit between the front seats >> as well, don't know yet. >> >> Thank You >> Rick Conti >> Senior Engineering Manager >> The Boeing Company >> office: 703 - 414 - 6141 >> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:03:58 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Painting
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Hell, I'm not even related to Tom Olsen....our last names are even different. ;) Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Now FLYING! DO NOT ARCHIVE James Hein wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net> > > Tom? You mean Tim has a brother?! > *hehe* > > John Cram wrote: > >> Look at Tom Olsen's >> >> do not archive >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Brian Sponcil <mailto:bsponcil@belinblank.org> >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> >> *Sent:* Monday, February 13, 2006 5:59 PM >> *Subject:* RV10-List: Painting >> >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" >> <bsponcil@belinblank.org <mailto:bsponcil@belinblank.org>> >> >> >> Anyone on the list planning to paint their -10? I'm currently >> debating it >> and am wondering what others thought. I'm not considering it as a >> way to >> save money but rather as a "fun" challenge. Of course the wife >> thinks I'm >> nuts and I probably am. Still, I'm wondering if there are some >> people on our >> list that have painted a previous RV- project and >> would >> like to pass on their opinions. >> >> FWIW - a guy in our EAA chapter just finished his -7 which he painted >> himself in a 4 color military scheme. He was really happy with the >> way it >> turned out but said painting was a LONG and TEDIOUS process and he'd >> probably elect to forgo it if he ever does another project. >> >> >> >> -Brian >> >> N211BD >> #40497 =========================p; Navigator Photoshare, >> and much much ; >> title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> >> ">http://www.matronic========================= >> generous bsp; >> title=http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> ">http://www.matronics.com/c========================================== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:16:24 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Total RV count
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Cool side-effect of my first flight.... Van's posted my letter to them today, and it was the 26th RV-10 listed. The side effect, today happened to be the day that the total number of RV's hit 4500. I won't even try to claim that I was that number changer, but it sure makes a cool round number to tell friends that I could have been the 4500'th. The way these kits go together, the percentage of RV-10's in that count is going to go up quick. -- Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 Now FLYING! DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 06:14:41 PM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Painting
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> The tedious and long part doesn't bother me...it's having the right place to do it. Tim had a paint booth available, even room for a properly filtered homemade booth would be good. Make sure you use intrinsically safe electrical motors on your ventilation fans. Careful of the good ol' EPA and airport restrictions if your heading to the hangar to paint. Check with local autobody shops..they may have the facility for you to use off hours..just get the prep done at home and plan on a few good (read long) nights in the booth. It will make a difference in the quality of your final product. Aircraft/automotive paint can be downright lethal if the right breathing and eye protection are not used....most people forget that the eyes will absorb dangerous levels of toxins when you get to concentration levels that are reached during spray painting. HVLP has lowered the levels in parts per million but you will still need a full face fresh air supplied respirator. Lastly...make sure your health is good enough to sustain extended time in a respirator. The fed's require employers to have their employees tested to make sure they can function safely in the masks. Sorry for the ramble, safety engineer by profession seeping through. Rick S. 40185 Fuselage


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    Time: 06:19:48 PM PST US
    From: <jim@CombsFive.Com>
    Subject: Re: Total RV count
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <jim@combsfive.com> Tim You are enjoying the "Now FLYING!" way too much! Man that has got to be Soooo GoooD! Enjoy it and keep up the reports! You have a bunch of back seat drivers just itching to get ours in the air too! Jim Combs N312F #40192 - Fuselage >Tim Olson -- RV-10 #40170 >Now FLYING! >DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 07:22:51 PM PST US
    From: GenGrumpy@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    Tim (and the other 25 flying!), can you guys share your POH's? Would certainly help all concerned to see the various POH's out there, with the goal of keep refining them based on lessons learned. Thanks - Grumpy #40404


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    Time: 07:39:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Painting
    From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> Brian, I painted my RV8 3 times. The first 2 times with Dupont Imron and the last with PPG Concept. I like the PPG products better. They flow much better than Imron. I used base coat/clear coat on all three. Definitely the way to go for a beginner. You should paint it if you can. It is a very messy, time consuming, and back breaking work but it is also very rewarding. Do it if you can. Zack -------- RV8 #80125 RV10 # 40512 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=11998#11998


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    Time: 07:43:26 PM PST US
    From: GenGrumpy@aol.com
    Subject: gascolator
    I'm trying to find a gascolator that has remote cable operation for the drain. Anyone found one that works on the -10 with IO-540? Tim, what did you use?? grumpy #40404


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    Time: 08:45:24 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Another RV-10 flies - 2/12/2006
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I will. I need to develop a lot of it during/after the flyoff. You don't need to have one to be signed off...just the W&B. I'll be putting together a whole POH for mine though, or at least a bunch of information. It may be a little bit, but it'll be open to all. Tim Olson -- Flying RV-10 #40170 do not archive GenGrumpy@aol.com wrote: > Tim (and the other 25 flying!), can you guys share your POH's? > > Would certainly help all concerned to see the various POH's out there, > with the goal of keep refining them based on lessons learned. > > Thanks - Grumpy #40404




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