Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 12:12 AM - Re: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts (Rick)
2. 03:45 AM - Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses (Scott Serani)
3. 05:11 AM - Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses (Patrick Thyssen)
4. 05:13 AM - Propeller (rob kermanj)
5. 06:30 AM - defrosters (Wayne Edgerton)
6. 06:37 AM - Re: defrosters (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
7. 06:51 AM - Re: defrosters (rob kermanj)
8. 07:45 AM - Re: defrosters (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
9. 07:47 AM - Re: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts (John Gonzalez)
10. 07:51 AM - Re: defrosters (Harris, Jeremy P)
11. 08:00 AM - Re: defrosters (rob kermanj)
12. 08:01 AM - Re: defrosters (rob kermanj)
13. 08:13 AM - Re: defrosters (RAS)
14. 08:20 AM - Re: defrosters (John Jessen)
15. 08:33 AM - Re: defrosters (Sam Marlow)
16. 08:54 AM - Re: Propeller (Bill)
17. 09:07 AM - Re: Propeller (rob kermanj)
18. 09:58 AM - Re: defrosters (RAS)
19. 10:30 AM - Re: defrosters (Tim Olson)
20. 10:30 AM - Re: Propeller (Patrick Thyssen)
21. 10:49 AM - Re: defrosters (Conti, Rick)
22. 11:29 AM - Re: defrosters (Jerry Grimmonpre)
23. 01:54 PM - Re: defrosters (DOUGPFLYRV@AOL.COM)
24. 01:55 PM - Re: defrosters (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
25. 02:09 PM - Fuel Pump/filters (McGANN, Ron)
26. 02:18 PM - Re: defrosters (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
27. 02:47 PM - Re: defrosters (Nikolaos Napoli)
28. 03:12 PM - Re: Fuel Pump/filters (rob kermanj)
29. 03:23 PM - Priming ()
30. 03:56 PM - Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
31. 03:56 PM - Re: Priming (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
32. 04:30 PM - Re: Priming (John Gonzalez)
33. 04:41 PM - Re: Priming ()
34. 05:52 PM - Re: Priming ()
35. 05:54 PM - Overhead Lights (JSMcGrew@aol.com)
36. 06:42 PM - Re: Archives (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
37. 06:58 PM - Re: Archives ()
38. 07:42 PM - Re: Priming (Russell Daves)
39. 08:07 PM - Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses (Bill and Tami Britton)
40. 08:24 PM - Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses (linn Walters)
41. 08:37 PM - Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses (Robert G. Wright)
42. 08:46 PM - Re: Priming (Brian Sponcil)
43. 08:52 PM - inertial belt update (David McNeill)
44. 08:57 PM - additional belt info (David McNeill)
45. 09:38 PM - Re: Priming ()
Message 1
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Tim,
I'd assemble a new one for the same reasons you mention. I'll bet that would be
a nice hour long project for a Sunday afternoon. I can't believe how much better
I have become at putting together the airframe, the VS seems so simplistic
now. I can't wait to build my next airplane and I haven't even finished this
one! Mainly because I'll know so much more when that time comes.
Rick S.
40185
Fuselage
do not archive
Message 2
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Hooker 5-point harnesses |
Bill - I just this past weekend installed my set of Hooker Harnesses. Piece
of cake! 5 points for the rear and 4 points for the front. Took a grand
total of an hour o install all sets.
Scott M. Serani, 40341
Engine just installed
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill and Tami
Britton
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:40 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses
Over on the VAF website they've got a 30% group buy going on for the
hooker 5-point harnesses. While I'm not quite finished with the tailcone
yet it's kinda hard to pass on this if they will work. Can anybody a little
further along in the build, or any flyers, tell me if these will work in
the -10. Front and back or just front??? Any Mods required to install
them???
Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
Bill Britton
RV-10 tailcone/ revisiting VS for the SB
#40137
Message 3
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses |
Has anybody ask Van why they put the 5 pt in back?
I know of one RV6 crash that had 5 pt and he 's convinced the fifth saved him.
Remember the front seats slide and the back is stationary. There might be a
better way of putting the attachtment in the back and I will consider that.
The main thing is wear your seat belt and shoulder harness, from a man with
experience both ways.
Pat Thyssen
my .02
Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
Read again... Plans = 5pt. Mine = 4 pt in rear.
I don't need that injury-causing, knee poking, metal
crotch tab sticking up injuring my kids. I got rid
of the thing and went with 4pt. I agree with your
statement...it's pointless to have 5.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
John Jessen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen"
>
> Why does one use 5-point in the rear? Are your kids doing acro back there
> without letting those in front join in the fun? Or, is there one h*ll of a
> tail wag that we don't know about? Seriously, though. Why?
>
> John Jessen
>
> do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:14 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
>
> You may be able to get them to work, but...
> Consider that you only use 4 point in the front, 5 point in the rear if you
> go by plans. I used 4 point both places.
> Also, the front harness uses a long webbing lead since it's mounted well
> rear of the front seats. I have hooker harnesses for the RV-10. You may
> want to contact them and see if you get in on the group buy can you get the
> RV-10 harness set.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
>> Over on the VAF website they've got a 30% group buy going on for the
>> hooker 5-point harnesses. While I'm not quite finished with the
>> tailcone yet it's kinda hard to pass on this if they will work. Can
>> anybody a little further along in the build, or any flyers, tell me if
>> these will work in the -10. Front and back or just front??? Any Mods
>> required to install them???
>>
>> Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Bill Britton
>> RV-10 tailcone/ revisiting VS for the SB
>> #40137
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Message 4
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
Hello everyone. Just for your information: I ordered my prop from
van on Dec 1, 2005 and receive it on 2/12/06.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
Message 5
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster system? I keep thing
about running 2' hoses up to each side of the glare shield. Maybe some of you
who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary.
Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low ceilings and
you can't see out the front window!!
Wayne Edgerton
# 40336
Message 6
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
CC: N577JT@aol.com
I am flying a 7 with 2 computer cooling fans in the glare shield to serve as
defog fans.....works great and have needed them several times. Doing the same
on the 10.
Doug
40372
Message 7
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
can you post a picture?
Do not archive
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Feb 15, 2006, at 9:36 AM, DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com wrote:
> I am flying a 7 with 2 computer cooling fans in the glare shield to
> serve as defog fans.....works great and have needed them several
> times. Doing the same on the 10.
>
> Doug
> 40372
Message 8
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Will have to shoot pics when go to A/P next time.
dp
Message 9
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Amen!!
It is a sickness.!
JG.
>From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:09:55 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
>Tim,
>
>I'd assemble a new one for the same reasons you mention. I'll bet that
>would be a nice hour long project for a Sunday afternoon. I can't believe
>how much better I have become at putting together the airframe, the VS
>seems so simplistic now. I can't wait to build my next airplane and I
>haven't even finished this one! Mainly because I'll know so much more when
>that time comes.
>
>Rick S.
>40185
>Fuselage
>
>do not archive
>
>
Message 10
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, vent
parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. There's some pics on our
website of the various components.
http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm
Jeremy P. Harris
Integrated Missile Defense
BMDS Architectures Lab
The Boeing Company
Washington, DC
Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T
Cell: (703) 627-6500
Fax: (703) 414-6372
MC: 793C-G007
Office: 825B
________________________________
From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM
Subject: RV10-List: defrosters
Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster system? I
keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the glare shield.
Maybe some of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell me if
you think it's necessary.
Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low
ceilings and you can't see out the front window!!
Wayne Edgerton
# 40336
Message 11
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Thanks. No big hurry.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:42 AM, DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com wrote:
> Will have to shoot pics when go to A/P next time.
> dp
Message 12
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Thanks, I will look.
Do Not Archive.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote:
> Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, vent
> parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. There's some pics on
> our website of the various components.
> http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm
>
> Jeremy P. Harris
> Integrated Missile Defense
> BMDS Architectures Lab
>
> The Boeing Company
> Washington, DC
> Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T
> Cell: (703) 627-6500
> Fax: (703) 414-6372
> MC: 793C-G007
> Office: 825B
>
>
> From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: defrosters
>
> Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster
> system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the
> glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying for awhile,
> Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary.
>
> Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low
> ceilings and you can't see out the front window!!
>
> Wayne Edgerton
>
> # 40336
>
Message 13
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Hi,
I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground without a fanmotor of some
description. You'll need quite a bit of forward motion to get air to move through
the entire system. In addition, the windscreen tends to steam up when on the
ground before and after engine start, ie, when you do not have forward movement.
It is even doubtful you'll have sufficient forward motion during taxi.
The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer is a better option nad it's
not the first time I've heard about it.
I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with them.
----- Original Message -----
From: rob kermanj
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters
Thanks, I will look.
Do Not Archive.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote:
Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, vent parts from
a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. There's some pics on our website of the
various components.
http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm
Jeremy P. Harris
Integrated Missile Defense
BMDS Architectures Lab
The Boeing Company
Washington, DC
Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T
Cell: (703) 627-6500
Fax: (703) 414-6372
MC: 793C-G007
Office: 825B
From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: defrosters
Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster system? I keep
thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the glare shield. Maybe some
of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary.
Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low ceilings
and you can't see out the front window!!
Wayne Edgerton
# 40336
Message 14
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Any chance we can remember the
Do Not Archive
on some of these casual posts?
Thanks
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rob kermanj
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters
Thanks. No big hurry.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:42 AM, DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com wrote:
Will have to shoot pics when go to A/P next time.
dp
Message 15
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Will the fan motors interfere with the EFIS displays?
RAS wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground without a fanmotor
> of some description. You'll need quite a bit of forward motion to get
> air to move through the entire system. In addition, the windscreen
> tends to steam up when on the ground before and after engine start,
> ie, when you do not have forward movement. It is even doubtful you'll
> have sufficient forward motion during taxi.
>
> The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer is a better option
> nad it's not the first time I've heard about it.
> I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with them.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rob kermanj <mailto:rv10es@earthlink.net>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:00 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters
>
> Thanks, I will look.
>
> Do Not Archive.
>
> rob kermanj
> rv10es@earthlink.net <mailto:rv10es@earthlink.net>
>
>
> On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote:
>
>> Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees,
>> vent parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. There's some
>> pics on our website of the various components.
>> http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm
>>
>>
>> Jeremy P. Harris
>> Integrated Missile Defense
>> BMDS Architectures Lab
>>
>> The Boeing Company
>> Washington, DC
>> Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T
>> Cell: (703) 627-6500
>> Fax: (703) 414-6372
>> MC: 793C-G007
>> Office: 825B
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RV10-List: defrosters
>>
>> Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster
>> system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of
>> the glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying for
>> awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary.
>>
>> Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR,
>> low ceilings and you can't see out the front window!!
>>
>> Wayne Edgerton
>>
>> # 40336
>>
>
Message 16
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill" <n2faith2@cs.com>
FYI............I ordered mine Oct 20th.....................it's "being
shipped in the near future" as of Feb 14th.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "rob kermanj" <rv10es@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:13 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Propeller
--> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
Hello everyone. Just for your information: I ordered my prop from
van on Dec 1, 2005 and receive it on 2/12/06.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
Message 17
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
Hmm, Oct. to Feb.? something has gone wrong.
Do Not Archive
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Bill wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill" <n2faith2@cs.com>
>
> FYI............I ordered mine Oct 20th.....................it's "being
> shipped in the near future" as of Feb 14th.
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rob kermanj" <rv10es@earthlink.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:13 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Propeller
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
>
> Hello everyone. Just for your information: I ordered my prop from
> van on Dec 1, 2005 and receive it on 2/12/06.
>
>
> rob kermanj
> rv10es@earthlink.net
>
>
Message 18
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Hi,
I would be inclined to think that they don't. They're normally working in very
close proximity to the computer mainboards, if there were any problems along those
lines the computer would have problems(?)
----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Marlow
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters
Will the fan motors interfere with the EFIS displays?
RAS wrote:
Hi,
I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground without a fanmotor of some
description. You'll need quite a bit of forward motion to get air to move
through the entire system. In addition, the windscreen tends to steam up when
on the ground before and after engine start, ie, when you do not have forward
movement. It is even doubtful you'll have sufficient forward motion during taxi.
The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer is a better option nad it's
not the first time I've heard about it.
I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with them.
----- Original Message -----
From: rob kermanj
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters
Thanks, I will look.
Do Not Archive.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote:
Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, vent parts
from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. There's some pics on our website of
the various components.
http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm
Jeremy P. Harris
Integrated Missile Defense
BMDS Architectures Lab
The Boeing Company
Washington, DC
Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T
Cell: (703) 627-6500
Fax: (703) 414-6372
MC: 793C-G007
Office: 825B
From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: defrosters
Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster system? I
keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the glare shield. Maybe some
of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's
necessary.
Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low ceilings
and you can't see out the front window!!
Wayne Edgerton
# 40336
Message 19
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
My EFIS has fans built right into the back. Can't see why
one would be a problem and another wouldn't unless maybe
it's a real noisy fan.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
RAS wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would be inclined to think that they don't. They're normally working
> in very close proximity to the computer mainboards, if there were any
> problems along those lines the computer would have problems(?)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Sam Marlow <mailto:sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:32 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: defrosters
>
> Will the fan motors interfere with the EFIS displays?
>
> RAS wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground without a
>> fanmotor of some description. You'll need quite a bit of forward
>> motion to get air to move through the entire system. In addition,
>> the windscreen tends to steam up when on the ground before and
>> after engine start, ie, when you do not have forward movement. It
>> is even doubtful you'll have sufficient forward motion during taxi.
>>
>> The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer is a better
>> option nad it's not the first time I've heard about it.
>> I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with them.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* rob kermanj <mailto:rv10es@earthlink.net>
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:00 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: defrosters
>>
>> Thanks, I will look.
>>
>> Do Not Archive.
>>
>> rob kermanj
>> rv10es@earthlink.net <mailto:rv10es@earthlink.net>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote:
>>
>>> Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some
>>> tees, vent parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve.
>>> There's some pics on our website of the various components.
>>> http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> *Jeremy P. Harris*
>>> _*Integrated Missile Defense *_
>>> BMDS Architectures Lab
>>>
>>> *The Boeing Company*
>>> Washington, DC
>>> Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T
>>> Cell: (703) 627-6500
>>> Fax: (703) 414-6372
>>> MC: 793C-G007
>>> Office: 825B
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM
>>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>> *Subject:* RV10-List: defrosters
>>>
>>> Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster
>>> system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side
>>> of the glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying
>>> for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary.
>>>
>>> Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in
>>> IFR, low ceilings and you can't see out the front window!!
>>>
>>> Wayne Edgerton
>>>
>>> # 40336
>>>
>>
Message 20
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
I ordered mine last month from vans and they just sent me a April 14 date from
Hartzel
Pat Thyssen
rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj
Hmm, Oct. to Feb.? something has gone wrong.
Do Not Archive
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Bill wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill"
>
> FYI............I ordered mine Oct 20th.....................it's "being
> shipped in the near future" as of Feb 14th.
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rob kermanj"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:13 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Propeller
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj
>
> Hello everyone. Just for your information: I ordered my prop from
> van on Dec 1, 2005 and receive it on 2/12/06.
>
>
> rob kermanj
> rv10es@earthlink.net
>
>
Message 21
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
What does "Do Not Archive" do to an email?
Thank You
Rick Conti
office: 703-414-6141
cell: 571-215-6134
________________________________
From: John Jessen [mailto:jjessen@rcn.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: defrosters
Any chance we can remember the
Do Not Archive
on some of these casual posts?
Thanks
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rob kermanj
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters
Thanks. No big hurry.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:42 AM, DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com wrote:
Will have to shoot pics when go to A/P next time.
dp
Message 22
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Hi Doug ...
I'm thinking the same thing about defrost and agree from similar experience.
What inch measurement fans are you flying with and do you get any fan noise?
Thanks for the info ...
Jerry Grimmonpre'
RV8A
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Cc: N577JT@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters
I am flying a 7 with 2 computer cooling fans in the glare shield to serve as
defog fans.....works great and have needed them several times. Doing the same
on the 10.
Doug
40372
Message 23
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Sorry, I do foerget. I seldom make post and not in the habit. Will try to do
better.
DP
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Message 24
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Don't know as I do not have EFIS in the 7. Will find out when the 10 flies.
Doug
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Message 25
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Fuel Pump/filters |
G'day all,
Is Vans Fuel Injection Fuel Pump and Installation kit for the IO320 or IO360 (PNo
7/7A F.I. PUMP INSTAL) what we use in the -10? Does the pump have sufficient
capacity for the IO-540? Vans site indicates "The AIRFLOW PERFORMANCE pump
and filter is appropriate for any of the fuel injected Lycoming engine", but
just looking for confirmation before I spend more bucks.
thanks in advance
Ron
#187 fuse
Message 26
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Jerry, I don't know exact size of fafans as we bought the 7. I purchased 2
fans for the 10...I think 3". There is no ducting, just cabin air criculating,
but works fine.
doug
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Message 27
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
I wonder if these would work well in the tunnel area to keep it cooler.
Niko
40188
----- Original Message ----
From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:17:58 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters
Jerry, I don't know exact size of fafans as we bought the 7. I purchased 2 fans
for the 10...I think 3". There is no ducting, just cabin air criculating, but
works fine.
doug
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Message 28
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Fuel Pump/filters |
I have the Airflow Performance pump and filter but my invoice only
shows "ES AIRFLOW FILTER" and "ES AIRFLOW FUEL PUMP 20-25 PSI".
I don't know if this info will help you since I am not sure what
IO320/360 use.
do not archive
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Feb 15, 2006, at 5:07 PM, McGANN, Ron wrote:
> G'day all,
>
> Is Vans Fuel Injection Fuel Pump and Installation kit for the IO320
> or IO360 (PNo 7/7A F.I. PUMP INSTAL) what we use in the -10? Does
> the pump have sufficient capacity for the IO-540? Vans site
> indicates "The AIRFLOW PERFORMANCE pump and filter is appropriate
> for any of the fuel injected Lycoming engine", but just looking for
> confirmation before I spend more bucks.
>
> thanks in advance
> Ron
> #187 fuse
Message 29
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
I'm new here so please excuse me if:
a. This question has been asked and beat to death already
b. If this is not the right forum for this question
I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6
empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision
to build the ten.
The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the
preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly.
Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types
(A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They
cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still
flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to
hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take
their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours.
So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important,
maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days???
Thanks!
Skip
Message 30
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Hooker 5-point harnesses |
Any way I can bolt down my ankle bitter is a good thing. Seriously though, I
don't see any reason for a 5 point in the -10. I seriously doubt that anyone
will be doing acro in the -10 which is the only reason you would really need it.
This thing is a cruiser not an acro so I didn't even put in the hard points
for the 5th. On a side note I will probably go with the AMSAFE inertial belts
for mine which will still give me 4 point.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:31 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Why does one use 5-point in the rear? Are your kids doing acro back there without
letting those in front join in the fun? Or, is there one h*ll of a tail wag
that we don't know about? Seriously, though. Why?
John Jessen
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
You may be able to get them to work, but...
Consider that you only use 4 point in the front, 5 point in the rear if you go
by plans. I used 4 point both places.
Also, the front harness uses a long webbing lead since it's mounted well rear of
the front seats. I have hooker harnesses for the RV-10. You may want to contact
them and see if you get in on the group buy can you get the RV-10 harness
set.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> Over on the VAF website they've got a 30% group buy going on for the
> hooker 5-point harnesses. While I'm not quite finished with the
> tailcone yet it's kinda hard to pass on this if they will work. Can
> anybody a little further along in the build, or any flyers, tell me if
> these will work in the -10. Front and back or just front??? Any Mods
> required to install them???
>
> Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Bill Britton
> RV-10 tailcone/ revisiting VS for the SB
> #40137
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Message 31
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
This also happens to answer the question someone asked about "do not archive".
The Matronics list archives every single message that we send as long as it doesn't
have the words "do not archive". In other words it helps to keep things
tidy for searching the archives which is where you will find ton's of past emails
on this exact subject. :-)
Check through the archives and then ask any other questions you may have, you will
find everyone a lot more responsive on the beat to death issues if it's fresh
and you have checked the archives first.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shfeher@rockwellcollins.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Priming
I'm new here so please excuse me if:
a. This question has been asked and beat to death already
b. If this is not the right forum for this question
I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 empennage
many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision to build the
ten.
The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the preparation
and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly.
Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types (A&Ps)
and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They cite examples
such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still flying with
little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to hangar my airplane
and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take their advice. But.....it
seems all of you guys are priming yours. So......what say you? And if you
think priming is really that important, maybe there are some simpler methods
or products these days???
Thanks!
Skip
Message 32
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
As suggested look in the archives, but maybe consider going half way but
getting say 75% results.
Maybe Alodine only.
Less messy, no weight, and less impact on the environment then doing all
treatments.
JG.
>From: <shfeher@rockwellcollins.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Priming
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:21:27 -0800
>
>I'm new here so please excuse me if:
>
>a. This question has been asked and beat to death already
>b. If this is not the right forum for this question
>
>I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6
>empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision
>to build the ten.
>
>The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the
>preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly.
>
>Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types
>(A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They
>cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still
>flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to
>hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take
>their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours.
>So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important,
>maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days???
>
>Thanks!
>
>Skip
Message 33
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Cc: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com, rv10-list@matronics.com
Understand. Thanks for the heads up.
do not archive
"RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Sent by: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
02/15/2006 03:54 PM
Please respond to
rv10-list@matronics.com
To
<rv10-list@matronics.com>
cc
Subject
RE: RV10-List: Priming
This also happens to answer the question someone asked about "do not
archive". The Matronics list archives every single message that we send
as long as it doesn't have the words "do not archive". In other words it
helps to keep things tidy for searching the archives which is where you
will find ton's of past emails on this exact subject. :-)
Check through the archives and then ask any other questions you may have,
you will find everyone a lot more responsive on the beat to death issues
if it's fresh and you have checked the archives first.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
shfeher@rockwellcollins.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Priming
I'm new here so please excuse me if:
a. This question has been asked and beat to death already
b. If this is not the right forum for this question
I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6
empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision
to build the ten.
The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the
preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly.
Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types
(A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They
cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still
flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to
hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take
their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours.
So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important,
maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days???
Thanks!
Skip
Message 34
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
How do I access the archives?
do not archive
"John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Sent by: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
02/15/2006 04:29 PM
Please respond to
rv10-list@matronics.com
To
rv10-list@matronics.com
cc
Subject
RE: RV10-List: Priming
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
As suggested look in the archives, but maybe consider going half way but
getting say 75% results.
Maybe Alodine only.
Less messy, no weight, and less impact on the environment then doing all
treatments.
JG.
>From: <shfeher@rockwellcollins.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Priming
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:21:27 -0800
>
>I'm new here so please excuse me if:
>
>a. This question has been asked and beat to death already
>b. If this is not the right forum for this question
>
>I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6
>empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the
decision
>to build the ten.
>
>The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the
>preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly.
>
>Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane
types
>(A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it".
They
>cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still
>flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to
>hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take
>their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours.
>So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important,
>maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days???
>
>Thanks!
>
>Skip
Message 35
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
I found some 12V 40 bulb LED lights online that work great for $19.95. I
plan on glassing the wires to the canopy along the pilot side windscreen support
(where I am also mounting my backlit mag compass). The light will be mounted
overhead in the center between the two front seats pointing slightly forward.
I'm making a simple fiberglass cover to make it look a bit more cosmetic
and to diffuse the light a bit . Not that that's necessary as these lights have
a 100 degree field of view and light up the cockpit and panel great - I
don't even need backlit gauges or post lights. I am mounting another in the
baggage area as well.
Here's the link:
_http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=OTHER_
(http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=OTHER)
Jim McGrew
40134
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
I am at the point where I need to install overhead lighting. For those
of you who have completed this step, how did you attach the lights and
what "model" lights did you use? Where did you run the wires? I know
the LEDs are very popular. I am considering swivel reading lights over
the back seats. Also, did anyone install sound proofing in the roof?
Thank You
Rick Conti
Senior Engineering Manager
The Boeing Company
office: 703 - 414 - 6141
blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
Message 36
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Hmm, Matt used to have the following link at the bottom of every email. Seems
like it's gone now. Anyway, follow this link and it will take you to a page with
a link to the archives and other stuff.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator/?RV10-List
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 fuselage
do not archive
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shfeher@rockwellcollins.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Priming
How do I access the archives?
do not archive
"John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Sent by: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
02/15/2006 04:29 PM
Please respond to
rv10-list@matronics.com
To
rv10-list@matronics.com
cc
Subject
RE: RV10-List: Priming=09
=09
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
As suggested look in the archives, but maybe consider going half way but
getting say 75% results.
Maybe Alodine only.
Less messy, no weight, and less impact on the environment then doing all
treatments.
JG.
>From: <shfeher@rockwellcollins.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Priming
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:21:27 -0800
>
>I'm new here so please excuse me if:
>
>a. This question has been asked and beat to death already
>b. If this is not the right forum for this question
>
>I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6
>empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision
>to build the ten.
>
>The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the
>preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly.
>
>Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types
>(A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They
>cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still
>flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to
>hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take
>their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours.
>So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important,
>maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days???
>
>Thanks!
>
>Skip
-
-Matt Dralle, List Admin.
Message 37
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Thanks!
do not archive
"RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Sent by: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
02/15/2006 06:42 PM
Please respond to
rv10-list@matronics.com
To
<rv10-list@matronics.com>
cc
Subject
RE: RV10-List: Archives
Hmm, Matt used to have the following link at the bottom of every email.
Seems like it's gone now. Anyway, follow this link and it will take you
to a page with a link to the archives and other stuff.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator/?RV10-List
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 fuselage
do not archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
shfeher@rockwellcollins.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Priming
How do I access the archives?
do not archive
"John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Sent by: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
02/15/2006 04:29 PM
Please respond to
rv10-list@matronics.com
To
rv10-list@matronics.com
cc
Subject
RE: RV10-List: Priming
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
As suggested look in the archives, but maybe consider going half way but
getting say 75% results.
Maybe Alodine only.
Less messy, no weight, and less impact on the environment then doing all
treatments.
JG.
>From: <shfeher@rockwellcollins.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Priming
>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:21:27 -0800
>
>I'm new here so please excuse me if:
>
>a. This question has been asked and beat to death already
>b. If this is not the right forum for this question
>
>I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6
>empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the
decision
>to build the ten.
>
>The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the
>preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly.
>
>Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane
types
>(A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it".
They
>cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still
>flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to
>hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take
>their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours.
>So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important,
>maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days???
>
>Thanks!
>
>Skip
-
-Matt Dralle, List Admin.
Message 38
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
The priming I did was as follows:
After drilling and dimpling I primed the joints being riveted together prior to
riveting.
Heavy traffic areas such as the floor panels, rear seat decks, and baggage floor
I also primed the top surface. The priming helped them hold up real well before
final paint.
Interior panels which were going to get painted I primed before painting.
All the rest I left unprimed.
Alcad Aluminum which has not been disturbed, i.e., drilled or dimpled DOES NOT
need primer.
Russ Daves
#40044 (Cabin top installed)
----- Original Message -----
From: shfeher@rockwellcollins.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:21 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Priming
I'm new here so please excuse me if:
a. This question has been asked and beat to death already
b. If this is not the right forum for this question
I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 empennage
many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision to build the
ten.
The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the preparation
and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly.
Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types (A&Ps)
and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They cite
examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still flying with
little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to hangar my airplane
and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take their advice. But.....it
seems all of you guys are priming yours. So......what say you? And if you
think priming is really that important, maybe there are some simpler methods
or products these days???
Thanks!
Skip
Message 39
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" <william@gbta.net>
That's a good point. As I stated earlier in my original post , I'm still
working on the tailcone so I am not even sure what the plans call for. I do
know that I'd prefer to stay away from whatever belt Vans used in their
260HP -10 proto. I demo'ed it at OSH last year and they seemed very large,
heavy and just downright clumsy to me. Does anybody offer a car-type belt.
(ie. one that you just click together--maybe that's what the inertial belts
are, I don't know)???
As for the hookers, I've decided to wait on it anyway. I guess that they
offer 20% off at OSH so I'll look at them there.
Thanks
Bill
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> Why does one use 5-point in the rear? Are your kids doing acro back there
> without letting those in front join in the fun? Or, is there one h*ll of
> a
> tail wag that we don't know about? Seriously, though. Why?
>
> John Jessen
>
> do not archive
>
Message 40
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses |
--> RV10-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton"
> <william@gbta.net>
>
> That's a good point. As I stated earlier in my original post , I'm
> still working on the tailcone so I am not even sure what the plans
> call for. I do know that I'd prefer to stay away from whatever belt
> Vans used in their 260HP -10 proto. I demo'ed it at OSH last year and
> they seemed very large, heavy and just downright clumsy to me.
I didn't remember anything unusual about their belts. However, I'm used
to 3" belts in my Pitts!
> Does anybody offer a car-type belt. (ie. one that you just click
> together--maybe that's what the inertial belts are, I don't know)???
Recent vintage car belts are inertial reel ..... and you can find them
in an aviation-grade safety harness. You may want to re-think using
lightweight auto belts. They're designed to restrain you in a car going
..... maybe 80 with a safety margin ..... but your airplane is doing
more than twice that. Just a thought.
> As for the hookers, I've decided to wait on it anyway. I guess that
> they offer 20% off at OSH so I'll look at them there.
Let's face it. Hooker is THE name on belts the Nascar guys use ...... I
doubt you'll find better quality gear. We all hope we never need them,
but if you do, wouldn't you want the best???
Linn
do not archive
>
>
> Thanks
> Bill
>
> Do Not Archive
Message 41
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Hooker 5-point harnesses |
Sorry, guess I'm not aware of different configs. The ones I'm familiar with
have the buckle on the crotch strap, so it would have to be used.
Rob
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:40 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses
Um, can't she just not attach the 5th strap for that flight?
TDT
do not archive
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Robert G. Wright
Sent: Tue 2/14/2006 10:17 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses
Valentine's Day Special bulletin:
If you ever have the need to fly a special lady and a function and are time
crunched for changing clothes, if she's wearing a skirt/dress you may want
to rethink 5-pt harnesses for your cross-country cruiser and leave the 5-pts
to the hard aerobatic guys. Of course you could always install a 4-pt or
shoulder/lap belt combo on that side so you can do your acro solo.
Rob #392
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami
Britton
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:40 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses
Over on the VAF website they've got a 30% group buy going on for the hooker
5-point harnesses. While I'm not quite finished with the tailcone yet it's
kinda hard to pass on this if they will work. Can anybody a little further
along in the build, or any flyers, tell me if these will work in the -10.
Front and back or just front??? Any Mods required to install them???
Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
Bill Britton
RV-10 tailcone/ revisiting VS for the SB
#40137
Message 42
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
I've been using a rattle can self-etching primer (SEM) which seems like a decent
compromise between effort and results - very little effort and good, albeit
non-Mil Spec, results. FWIW - a recent (if not the latest) RVator touched on this
very issue.
Do you work in CR? If so, you're welcome to swing by the Spommert Aircraft Production
Facility (aka my garage) to check it out for yourself. Just drop me a
line off the list.
-Brian
N211BD
#40497
Iowa City, IA
----- Original Message -----
From: shfeher@rockwellcollins.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:21 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Priming
I'm new here so please excuse me if:
a. This question has been asked and beat to death already
b. If this is not the right forum for this question
I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 empennage
many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision to build the
ten.
The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the preparation
and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly.
Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types (A&Ps)
and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They cite
examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still flying with
little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to hangar my airplane
and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take their advice. But.....it
seems all of you guys are priming yours. So......what say you? And if you
think priming is really that important, maybe there are some simpler methods
or products these days???
Thanks!
Skip
Message 43
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | inertial belt update |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Just an update on the inertial belts from AMSAFE. The belts sizings have
been finalized and four belts will be installed in an RV10 in TX in March.
My lid is prepared and another set will go into mine when I get to that
section.
part numbers of the restraints are as follows:
Front Seats: 4076-3-451-xxxx
Rear Seats: 4076-3-461-xxxx
Front Seats w/Extra lap Length: 4076-3-471-xxxx
the xxxx is the color code.
If you want to look at the airframe preparation go to www.inertialbetls.com
. The procedure shows the lid off the aircraft. If you want to install them
but already have fixed the lid in place then contact me as there is easy
change to the procedure that will minimize the mess of installing the hard
points externally.
Message 44
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | additional belt info |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
info provided was for the standard buckle. I am installing a set of inertial
belts in my Glastar. I will have the airplane at OSH (thursday-saturday) if
anyone wants to see the inertial belt or the rotary buckle.
Message 45
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Thanks, Brian.
No. I am the field sales guy in the NW (live in the Seattle area).
But......I get to CR a lot and will be there the week of March 6th. I'll
send you an e-mail directly and let's try to hook up.
Skip
do not archive
"Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
Sent by: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
02/15/2006 08:45 PM
Please respond to
rv10-list@matronics.com
To
<rv10-list@matronics.com>
cc
Subject
Re: RV10-List: Priming
I've been using a rattle can self-etching primer (SEM) which seems like a
decent compromise between effort and results - very little effort and
good, albeit non-Mil Spec, results. FWIW - a recent (if not the latest)
RVator touched on this very issue.
Do you work in CR? If so, you're welcome to swing by the Spommert
Aircraft Production Facility (aka my garage) to check it out for yourself.
Just drop me a line off the list.
-Brian
N211BD
#40497
Iowa City, IA
----- Original Message -----
From: shfeher@rockwellcollins.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:21 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Priming
I'm new here so please excuse me if:
a. This question has been asked and beat to death already
b. If this is not the right forum for this question
I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6
empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision
to build the ten.
The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the
preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly.
Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types
(A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They
cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still
flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to
hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take
their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours.
So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important,
maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days???
Thanks!
Skip
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|