---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/15/06: 45 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:12 AM - Re: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts (Rick) 2. 03:45 AM - Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses (Scott Serani) 3. 05:11 AM - Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses (Patrick Thyssen) 4. 05:13 AM - Propeller (rob kermanj) 5. 06:30 AM - defrosters (Wayne Edgerton) 6. 06:37 AM - Re: defrosters (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com) 7. 06:51 AM - Re: defrosters (rob kermanj) 8. 07:45 AM - Re: defrosters (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com) 9. 07:47 AM - Re: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts (John Gonzalez) 10. 07:51 AM - Re: defrosters (Harris, Jeremy P) 11. 08:00 AM - Re: defrosters (rob kermanj) 12. 08:01 AM - Re: defrosters (rob kermanj) 13. 08:13 AM - Re: defrosters (RAS) 14. 08:20 AM - Re: defrosters (John Jessen) 15. 08:33 AM - Re: defrosters (Sam Marlow) 16. 08:54 AM - Re: Propeller (Bill) 17. 09:07 AM - Re: Propeller (rob kermanj) 18. 09:58 AM - Re: defrosters (RAS) 19. 10:30 AM - Re: defrosters (Tim Olson) 20. 10:30 AM - Re: Propeller (Patrick Thyssen) 21. 10:49 AM - Re: defrosters (Conti, Rick) 22. 11:29 AM - Re: defrosters (Jerry Grimmonpre) 23. 01:54 PM - Re: defrosters (DOUGPFLYRV@AOL.COM) 24. 01:55 PM - Re: defrosters (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com) 25. 02:09 PM - Fuel Pump/filters (McGANN, Ron) 26. 02:18 PM - Re: defrosters (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com) 27. 02:47 PM - Re: defrosters (Nikolaos Napoli) 28. 03:12 PM - Re: Fuel Pump/filters (rob kermanj) 29. 03:23 PM - Priming () 30. 03:56 PM - Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 31. 03:56 PM - Re: Priming (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 32. 04:30 PM - Re: Priming (John Gonzalez) 33. 04:41 PM - Re: Priming () 34. 05:52 PM - Re: Priming () 35. 05:54 PM - Overhead Lights (JSMcGrew@aol.com) 36. 06:42 PM - Re: Archives (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 37. 06:58 PM - Re: Archives () 38. 07:42 PM - Re: Priming (Russell Daves) 39. 08:07 PM - Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses (Bill and Tami Britton) 40. 08:24 PM - Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses (linn Walters) 41. 08:37 PM - Re: Hooker 5-point harnesses (Robert G. Wright) 42. 08:46 PM - Re: Priming (Brian Sponcil) 43. 08:52 PM - inertial belt update (David McNeill) 44. 08:57 PM - additional belt info (David McNeill) 45. 09:38 PM - Re: Priming () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:30 AM PST US From: Rick Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick Tim, I'd assemble a new one for the same reasons you mention. I'll bet that would be a nice hour long project for a Sunday afternoon. I can't believe how much better I have become at putting together the airframe, the VS seems so simplistic now. I can't wait to build my next airplane and I haven't even finished this one! Mainly because I'll know so much more when that time comes. Rick S. 40185 Fuselage do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:10 AM PST US From: "Scott Serani" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses Bill - I just this past weekend installed my set of Hooker Harnesses. Piece of cake! 5 points for the rear and 4 points for the front. Took a grand total of an hour o install all sets. Scott M. Serani, 40341 Engine just installed -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill and Tami Britton Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:40 PM Subject: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses Over on the VAF website they've got a 30% group buy going on for the hooker 5-point harnesses. While I'm not quite finished with the tailcone yet it's kinda hard to pass on this if they will work. Can anybody a little further along in the build, or any flyers, tell me if these will work in the -10. Front and back or just front??? Any Mods required to install them??? Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Bill Britton RV-10 tailcone/ revisiting VS for the SB #40137 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:34 AM PST US From: Patrick Thyssen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses Has anybody ask Van why they put the 5 pt in back? I know of one RV6 crash that had 5 pt and he 's convinced the fifth saved him. Remember the front seats slide and the back is stationary. There might be a better way of putting the attachtment in the back and I will consider that. The main thing is wear your seat belt and shoulder harness, from a man with experience both ways. Pat Thyssen my .02 Tim Olson wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Read again... Plans = 5pt. Mine = 4 pt in rear. I don't need that injury-causing, knee poking, metal crotch tab sticking up injuring my kids. I got rid of the thing and went with 4pt. I agree with your statement...it's pointless to have 5. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive John Jessen wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" > > Why does one use 5-point in the rear? Are your kids doing acro back there > without letting those in front join in the fun? Or, is there one h*ll of a > tail wag that we don't know about? Seriously, though. Why? > > John Jessen > > do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:14 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > You may be able to get them to work, but... > Consider that you only use 4 point in the front, 5 point in the rear if you > go by plans. I used 4 point both places. > Also, the front harness uses a long webbing lead since it's mounted well > rear of the front seats. I have hooker harnesses for the RV-10. You may > want to contact them and see if you get in on the group buy can you get the > RV-10 harness set. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > Bill and Tami Britton wrote: >> Over on the VAF website they've got a 30% group buy going on for the >> hooker 5-point harnesses. While I'm not quite finished with the >> tailcone yet it's kinda hard to pass on this if they will work. Can >> anybody a little further along in the build, or any flyers, tell me if >> these will work in the -10. Front and back or just front??? Any Mods >> required to install them??? >> >> Any and all help is greatly appreciated. >> >> Bill Britton >> RV-10 tailcone/ revisiting VS for the SB >> #40137 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:42 AM PST US From: rob kermanj Subject: RV10-List: Propeller --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj Hello everyone. Just for your information: I ordered my prop from van on Dec 1, 2005 and receive it on 2/12/06. rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:20 AM PST US From: "Wayne Edgerton" Subject: RV10-List: defrosters Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary. Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low ceilings and you can't see out the front window!! Wayne Edgerton # 40336 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:11 AM PST US From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters CC: N577JT@aol.com I am flying a 7 with 2 computer cooling fans in the glare shield to serve as defog fans.....works great and have needed them several times. Doing the same on the 10. Doug 40372 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:34 AM PST US From: rob kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters can you post a picture? Do not archive rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 15, 2006, at 9:36 AM, DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com wrote: > I am flying a 7 with 2 computer cooling fans in the glare shield to > serve as defog fans.....works great and have needed them several > times. Doing the same on the 10. > > Doug > 40372 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:11 AM PST US From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Will have to shoot pics when go to A/P next time. dp ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:01 AM PST US From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" Amen!! It is a sickness.! JG. >From: Rick >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vertical Stab SB - VS Parts >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 00:09:55 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick > >Tim, > >I'd assemble a new one for the same reasons you mention. I'll bet that >would be a nice hour long project for a Sunday afternoon. I can't believe >how much better I have become at putting together the airframe, the VS >seems so simplistic now. I can't wait to build my next airplane and I >haven't even finished this one! Mainly because I'll know so much more when >that time comes. > >Rick S. >40185 >Fuselage > >do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:52 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: defrosters From: "Harris, Jeremy P" Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, vent parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. There's some pics on our website of the various components. http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm Jeremy P. Harris Integrated Missile Defense BMDS Architectures Lab The Boeing Company Washington, DC Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T Cell: (703) 627-6500 Fax: (703) 414-6372 MC: 793C-G007 Office: 825B ________________________________ From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: RV10-List: defrosters Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary. Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low ceilings and you can't see out the front window!! Wayne Edgerton # 40336 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:00:33 AM PST US From: rob kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Thanks. No big hurry. rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:42 AM, DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com wrote: > Will have to shoot pics when go to A/P next time. > dp ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:56 AM PST US From: rob kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Thanks, I will look. Do Not Archive. rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote: > Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, vent > parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. There's some pics on > our website of the various components. > http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm > > Jeremy P. Harris > Integrated Missile Defense > BMDS Architectures Lab > > The Boeing Company > Washington, DC > Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T > Cell: (703) 627-6500 > Fax: (703) 414-6372 > MC: 793C-G007 > Office: 825B > > > From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net] > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: defrosters > > Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster > system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the > glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying for awhile, > Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary. > > Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low > ceilings and you can't see out the front window!! > > Wayne Edgerton > > # 40336 > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:06 AM PST US From: "RAS" Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Hi, I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground without a fanmotor of some description. You'll need quite a bit of forward motion to get air to move through the entire system. In addition, the windscreen tends to steam up when on the ground before and after engine start, ie, when you do not have forward movement. It is even doubtful you'll have sufficient forward motion during taxi. The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer is a better option nad it's not the first time I've heard about it. I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with them. ----- Original Message ----- From: rob kermanj To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:00 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Thanks, I will look. Do Not Archive. rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote: Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, vent parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. There's some pics on our website of the various components. http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm Jeremy P. Harris Integrated Missile Defense BMDS Architectures Lab The Boeing Company Washington, DC Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T Cell: (703) 627-6500 Fax: (703) 414-6372 MC: 793C-G007 Office: 825B From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: defrosters Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary. Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low ceilings and you can't see out the front window!! Wayne Edgerton # 40336 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:20:46 AM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RE: RV10-List: defrosters Any chance we can remember the Do Not Archive on some of these casual posts? Thanks _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rob kermanj Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:00 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Thanks. No big hurry. rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:42 AM, DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com wrote: Will have to shoot pics when go to A/P next time. dp ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:33:56 AM PST US From: Sam Marlow Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Will the fan motors interfere with the EFIS displays? RAS wrote: > Hi, > > I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground without a fanmotor > of some description. You'll need quite a bit of forward motion to get > air to move through the entire system. In addition, the windscreen > tends to steam up when on the ground before and after engine start, > ie, when you do not have forward movement. It is even doubtful you'll > have sufficient forward motion during taxi. > > The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer is a better option > nad it's not the first time I've heard about it. > I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with them. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: rob kermanj > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:00 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters > > Thanks, I will look. > > Do Not Archive. > > rob kermanj > rv10es@earthlink.net > > > On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote: > >> Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, >> vent parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. There's some >> pics on our website of the various components. >> http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm >> >> >> Jeremy P. Harris >> Integrated Missile Defense >> BMDS Architectures Lab >> >> The Boeing Company >> Washington, DC >> Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T >> Cell: (703) 627-6500 >> Fax: (703) 414-6372 >> MC: 793C-G007 >> Office: 825B >> >> >> >> From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net] >> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: defrosters >> >> Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster >> system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of >> the glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying for >> awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary. >> >> Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, >> low ceilings and you can't see out the front window!! >> >> Wayne Edgerton >> >> # 40336 >> > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:49 AM PST US From: "Bill" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Propeller --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill" FYI............I ordered mine Oct 20th.....................it's "being shipped in the near future" as of Feb 14th. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "rob kermanj" Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:13 AM Subject: RV10-List: Propeller --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj Hello everyone. Just for your information: I ordered my prop from van on Dec 1, 2005 and receive it on 2/12/06. rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:30 AM PST US From: rob kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: Propeller --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj Hmm, Oct. to Feb.? something has gone wrong. Do Not Archive rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Bill wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill" > > FYI............I ordered mine Oct 20th.....................it's "being > shipped in the near future" as of Feb 14th. > > do not archive > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rob kermanj" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:13 AM > Subject: RV10-List: Propeller > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj > > Hello everyone. Just for your information: I ordered my prop from > van on Dec 1, 2005 and receive it on 2/12/06. > > > rob kermanj > rv10es@earthlink.net > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:58:13 AM PST US From: "RAS" Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Hi, I would be inclined to think that they don't. They're normally working in very close proximity to the computer mainboards, if there were any problems along those lines the computer would have problems(?) ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Marlow To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Will the fan motors interfere with the EFIS displays? RAS wrote: Hi, I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground without a fanmotor of some description. You'll need quite a bit of forward motion to get air to move through the entire system. In addition, the windscreen tends to steam up when on the ground before and after engine start, ie, when you do not have forward movement. It is even doubtful you'll have sufficient forward motion during taxi. The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer is a better option nad it's not the first time I've heard about it. I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with them. ----- Original Message ----- From: rob kermanj To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:00 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Thanks, I will look. Do Not Archive. rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote: Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, vent parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. There's some pics on our website of the various components. http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm Jeremy P. Harris Integrated Missile Defense BMDS Architectures Lab The Boeing Company Washington, DC Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T Cell: (703) 627-6500 Fax: (703) 414-6372 MC: 793C-G007 Office: 825B From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: defrosters Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary. Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low ceilings and you can't see out the front window!! Wayne Edgerton # 40336 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:30:22 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson My EFIS has fans built right into the back. Can't see why one would be a problem and another wouldn't unless maybe it's a real noisy fan. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive RAS wrote: > Hi, > > I would be inclined to think that they don't. They're normally working > in very close proximity to the computer mainboards, if there were any > problems along those lines the computer would have problems(?) > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Sam Marlow > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:32 PM > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: defrosters > > Will the fan motors interfere with the EFIS displays? > > RAS wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground without a >> fanmotor of some description. You'll need quite a bit of forward >> motion to get air to move through the entire system. In addition, >> the windscreen tends to steam up when on the ground before and >> after engine start, ie, when you do not have forward movement. It >> is even doubtful you'll have sufficient forward motion during taxi. >> >> The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer is a better >> option nad it's not the first time I've heard about it. >> I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with them. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* rob kermanj >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:00 PM >> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: defrosters >> >> Thanks, I will look. >> >> Do Not Archive. >> >> rob kermanj >> rv10es@earthlink.net >> >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote: >> >>> Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some >>> tees, vent parts from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. >>> There's some pics on our website of the various components. >>> http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm >>> >>> >>> *Jeremy P. Harris* >>> _*Integrated Missile Defense *_ >>> BMDS Architectures Lab >>> >>> *The Boeing Company* >>> Washington, DC >>> Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T >>> Cell: (703) 627-6500 >>> Fax: (703) 414-6372 >>> MC: 793C-G007 >>> Office: 825B >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net] >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM >>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com >>> *Subject:* RV10-List: defrosters >>> >>> Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster >>> system? I keep thing about running 2' hoses up to each side >>> of the glare shield. Maybe some of you who have been flying >>> for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's necessary. >>> >>> Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in >>> IFR, low ceilings and you can't see out the front window!! >>> >>> Wayne Edgerton >>> >>> # 40336 >>> >> ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:30:25 AM PST US From: Patrick Thyssen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Propeller I ordered mine last month from vans and they just sent me a April 14 date from Hartzel Pat Thyssen rob kermanj wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj Hmm, Oct. to Feb.? something has gone wrong. Do Not Archive rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 15, 2006, at 11:53 AM, Bill wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill" > > FYI............I ordered mine Oct 20th.....................it's "being > shipped in the near future" as of Feb 14th. > > do not archive > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rob kermanj" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:13 AM > Subject: RV10-List: Propeller > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj > > Hello everyone. Just for your information: I ordered my prop from > van on Dec 1, 2005 and receive it on 2/12/06. > > > rob kermanj > rv10es@earthlink.net > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:49:40 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: defrosters From: "Conti, Rick" What does "Do Not Archive" do to an email? Thank You Rick Conti office: 703-414-6141 cell: 571-215-6134 ________________________________ From: John Jessen [mailto:jjessen@rcn.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:20 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: defrosters Any chance we can remember the Do Not Archive on some of these casual posts? Thanks ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rob kermanj Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:00 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Thanks. No big hurry. rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:42 AM, DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com wrote: Will have to shoot pics when go to A/P next time. dp ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 11:29:05 AM PST US From: "Jerry Grimmonpre" Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Hi Doug ... I'm thinking the same thing about defrost and agree from similar experience. What inch measurement fans are you flying with and do you get any fan noise? Thanks for the info ... Jerry Grimmonpre' RV8A DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Cc: N577JT@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:36 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters I am flying a 7 with 2 computer cooling fans in the glare shield to serve as defog fans.....works great and have needed them several times. Doing the same on the 10. Doug 40372 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 01:54:51 PM PST US From: DOUGPFLYRV@AOL.COM Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Sorry, I do foerget. I seldom make post and not in the habit. Will try to do better. DP DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 01:55:09 PM PST US From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Don't know as I do not have EFIS in the 7. Will find out when the 10 flies. Doug DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 02:09:01 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Fuel Pump/filters From: "McGANN, Ron" G'day all, Is Vans Fuel Injection Fuel Pump and Installation kit for the IO320 or IO360 (PNo 7/7A F.I. PUMP INSTAL) what we use in the -10? Does the pump have sufficient capacity for the IO-540? Vans site indicates "The AIRFLOW PERFORMANCE pump and filter is appropriate for any of the fuel injected Lycoming engine", but just looking for confirmation before I spend more bucks. thanks in advance Ron #187 fuse ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 02:18:38 PM PST US From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Jerry, I don't know exact size of fafans as we bought the 7. I purchased 2 fans for the 10...I think 3". There is no ducting, just cabin air criculating, but works fine. doug DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 02:47:36 PM PST US From: Nikolaos Napoli Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters I wonder if these would work well in the tunnel area to keep it cooler. Niko 40188 ----- Original Message ---- From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:17:58 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters Jerry, I don't know exact size of fafans as we bought the 7. I purchased 2 fans for the 10...I think 3". There is no ducting, just cabin air criculating, but works fine. doug DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 03:12:29 PM PST US From: rob kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Pump/filters I have the Airflow Performance pump and filter but my invoice only shows "ES AIRFLOW FILTER" and "ES AIRFLOW FUEL PUMP 20-25 PSI". I don't know if this info will help you since I am not sure what IO320/360 use. do not archive rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Feb 15, 2006, at 5:07 PM, McGANN, Ron wrote: > G'day all, > > Is Vans Fuel Injection Fuel Pump and Installation kit for the IO320 > or IO360 (PNo 7/7A F.I. PUMP INSTAL) what we use in the -10? Does > the pump have sufficient capacity for the IO-540? Vans site > indicates "The AIRFLOW PERFORMANCE pump and filter is appropriate > for any of the fuel injected Lycoming engine", but just looking for > confirmation before I spend more bucks. > > thanks in advance > Ron > #187 fuse ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 03:23:03 PM PST US From: Subject: RV10-List: Priming I'm new here so please excuse me if: a. This question has been asked and beat to death already b. If this is not the right forum for this question I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision to build the ten. The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly. Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types (A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours. So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important, maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days??? Thanks! Skip ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 03:56:39 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Any way I can bolt down my ankle bitter is a good thing. Seriously though, I don't see any reason for a 5 point in the -10. I seriously doubt that anyone will be doing acro in the -10 which is the only reason you would really need it. This thing is a cruiser not an acro so I didn't even put in the hard points for the 5th. On a side note I will probably go with the AMSAFE inertial belts for mine which will still give me 4 point. Michael Sausen -10 #352 Fuselage -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" Why does one use 5-point in the rear? Are your kids doing acro back there without letting those in front join in the fun? Or, is there one h*ll of a tail wag that we don't know about? Seriously, though. Why? John Jessen do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:14 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson You may be able to get them to work, but... Consider that you only use 4 point in the front, 5 point in the rear if you go by plans. I used 4 point both places. Also, the front harness uses a long webbing lead since it's mounted well rear of the front seats. I have hooker harnesses for the RV-10. You may want to contact them and see if you get in on the group buy can you get the RV-10 harness set. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Bill and Tami Britton wrote: > Over on the VAF website they've got a 30% group buy going on for the > hooker 5-point harnesses. While I'm not quite finished with the > tailcone yet it's kinda hard to pass on this if they will work. Can > anybody a little further along in the build, or any flyers, tell me if > these will work in the -10. Front and back or just front??? Any Mods > required to install them??? > > Any and all help is greatly appreciated. > > Bill Britton > RV-10 tailcone/ revisiting VS for the SB > #40137 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 03:56:39 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Priming From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" This also happens to answer the question someone asked about "do not archive". The Matronics list archives every single message that we send as long as it doesn't have the words "do not archive". In other words it helps to keep things tidy for searching the archives which is where you will find ton's of past emails on this exact subject. :-) Check through the archives and then ask any other questions you may have, you will find everyone a lot more responsive on the beat to death issues if it's fresh and you have checked the archives first. Michael Sausen -10 #352 Fuselage ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shfeher@rockwellcollins.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:21 PM Subject: RV10-List: Priming I'm new here so please excuse me if: a. This question has been asked and beat to death already b. If this is not the right forum for this question I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision to build the ten. The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly. Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types (A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours. So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important, maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days??? Thanks! Skip ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 04:30:53 PM PST US From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Priming --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" As suggested look in the archives, but maybe consider going half way but getting say 75% results. Maybe Alodine only. Less messy, no weight, and less impact on the environment then doing all treatments. JG. >From: >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Priming >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:21:27 -0800 > >I'm new here so please excuse me if: > >a. This question has been asked and beat to death already >b. If this is not the right forum for this question > >I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 >empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision >to build the ten. > >The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the >preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly. > >Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types >(A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They >cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still >flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to >hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take >their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours. >So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important, >maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days??? > >Thanks! > >Skip ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 04:41:28 PM PST US From: Cc: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com, rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV10-List: Priming Understand. Thanks for the heads up. do not archive "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Sent by: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 02/15/2006 03:54 PM Please respond to rv10-list@matronics.com To cc Subject RE: RV10-List: Priming This also happens to answer the question someone asked about "do not archive". The Matronics list archives every single message that we send as long as it doesn't have the words "do not archive". In other words it helps to keep things tidy for searching the archives which is where you will find ton's of past emails on this exact subject. :-) Check through the archives and then ask any other questions you may have, you will find everyone a lot more responsive on the beat to death issues if it's fresh and you have checked the archives first. Michael Sausen -10 #352 Fuselage From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shfeher@rockwellcollins.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:21 PM Subject: RV10-List: Priming I'm new here so please excuse me if: a. This question has been asked and beat to death already b. If this is not the right forum for this question I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision to build the ten. The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly. Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types (A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours. So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important, maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days??? Thanks! Skip ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 05:52:38 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: RV10-List: Priming How do I access the archives? do not archive "John Gonzalez" Sent by: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 02/15/2006 04:29 PM Please respond to rv10-list@matronics.com To rv10-list@matronics.com cc Subject RE: RV10-List: Priming --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" As suggested look in the archives, but maybe consider going half way but getting say 75% results. Maybe Alodine only. Less messy, no weight, and less impact on the environment then doing all treatments. JG. >From: >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Priming >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:21:27 -0800 > >I'm new here so please excuse me if: > >a. This question has been asked and beat to death already >b. If this is not the right forum for this question > >I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 >empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision >to build the ten. > >The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the >preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly. > >Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types >(A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They >cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still >flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to >hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take >their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours. >So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important, >maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days??? > >Thanks! > >Skip ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:32 PM PST US From: JSMcGrew@aol.com Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Lights I found some 12V 40 bulb LED lights online that work great for $19.95. I plan on glassing the wires to the canopy along the pilot side windscreen support (where I am also mounting my backlit mag compass). The light will be mounted overhead in the center between the two front seats pointing slightly forward. I'm making a simple fiberglass cover to make it look a bit more cosmetic and to diffuse the light a bit . Not that that's necessary as these lights have a 100 degree field of view and light up the cockpit and panel great - I don't even need backlit gauges or post lights. I am mounting another in the baggage area as well. Here's the link: _http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=OTHER_ (http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=OTHER) Jim McGrew 40134 --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" I am at the point where I need to install overhead lighting. For those of you who have completed this step, how did you attach the lights and what "model" lights did you use? Where did you run the wires? I know the LEDs are very popular. I am considering swivel reading lights over the back seats. Also, did anyone install sound proofing in the roof? Thank You Rick Conti Senior Engineering Manager The Boeing Company office: 703 - 414 - 6141 blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134 ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:53 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Archives From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Hmm, Matt used to have the following link at the bottom of every email. Seems like it's gone now. Anyway, follow this link and it will take you to a page with a link to the archives and other stuff. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator/?RV10-List Michael Sausen -10 #352 fuselage do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shfeher@rockwellcollins.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Priming How do I access the archives? do not archive "John Gonzalez" Sent by: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 02/15/2006 04:29 PM Please respond to rv10-list@matronics.com To rv10-list@matronics.com cc Subject RE: RV10-List: Priming=09 =09 --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" As suggested look in the archives, but maybe consider going half way but getting say 75% results. Maybe Alodine only. Less messy, no weight, and less impact on the environment then doing all treatments. JG. >From: >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Priming >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:21:27 -0800 > >I'm new here so please excuse me if: > >a. This question has been asked and beat to death already >b. If this is not the right forum for this question > >I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 >empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision >to build the ten. > >The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the >preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly. > >Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types >(A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They >cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still >flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to >hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take >their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours. >So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important, >maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days??? > >Thanks! > >Skip - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:53 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: RV10-List: Archives Thanks! do not archive "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Sent by: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 02/15/2006 06:42 PM Please respond to rv10-list@matronics.com To cc Subject RE: RV10-List: Archives Hmm, Matt used to have the following link at the bottom of every email. Seems like it's gone now. Anyway, follow this link and it will take you to a page with a link to the archives and other stuff. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator/?RV10-List Michael Sausen -10 #352 fuselage do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shfeher@rockwellcollins.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:48 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Priming How do I access the archives? do not archive "John Gonzalez" Sent by: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 02/15/2006 04:29 PM Please respond to rv10-list@matronics.com To rv10-list@matronics.com cc Subject RE: RV10-List: Priming --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" As suggested look in the archives, but maybe consider going half way but getting say 75% results. Maybe Alodine only. Less messy, no weight, and less impact on the environment then doing all treatments. JG. >From: >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Priming >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:21:27 -0800 > >I'm new here so please excuse me if: > >a. This question has been asked and beat to death already >b. If this is not the right forum for this question > >I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 >empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision >to build the ten. > >The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the >preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly. > >Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types >(A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They >cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still >flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to >hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take >their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours. >So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important, >maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days??? > >Thanks! > >Skip - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:15 PM PST US From: "Russell Daves" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Priming The priming I did was as follows: After drilling and dimpling I primed the joints being riveted together prior to riveting. Heavy traffic areas such as the floor panels, rear seat decks, and baggage floor I also primed the top surface. The priming helped them hold up real well before final paint. Interior panels which were going to get painted I primed before painting. All the rest I left unprimed. Alcad Aluminum which has not been disturbed, i.e., drilled or dimpled DOES NOT need primer. Russ Daves #40044 (Cabin top installed) ----- Original Message ----- From: shfeher@rockwellcollins.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: RV10-List: Priming I'm new here so please excuse me if: a. This question has been asked and beat to death already b. If this is not the right forum for this question I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision to build the ten. The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly. Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types (A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours. So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important, maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days??? Thanks! Skip ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:14 PM PST US From: "Bill and Tami Britton" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" That's a good point. As I stated earlier in my original post , I'm still working on the tailcone so I am not even sure what the plans call for. I do know that I'd prefer to stay away from whatever belt Vans used in their 260HP -10 proto. I demo'ed it at OSH last year and they seemed very large, heavy and just downright clumsy to me. Does anybody offer a car-type belt. (ie. one that you just click together--maybe that's what the inertial belts are, I don't know)??? As for the hookers, I've decided to wait on it anyway. I guess that they offer 20% off at OSH so I'll look at them there. Thanks Bill Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Jessen" Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:30 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" > > Why does one use 5-point in the rear? Are your kids doing acro back there > without letting those in front join in the fun? Or, is there one h*ll of > a > tail wag that we don't know about? Seriously, though. Why? > > John Jessen > > do not archive > ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:08 PM PST US From: linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses --> RV10-List message posted by: linn Walters Bill and Tami Britton wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill and Tami Britton" > > > That's a good point. As I stated earlier in my original post , I'm > still working on the tailcone so I am not even sure what the plans > call for. I do know that I'd prefer to stay away from whatever belt > Vans used in their 260HP -10 proto. I demo'ed it at OSH last year and > they seemed very large, heavy and just downright clumsy to me. I didn't remember anything unusual about their belts. However, I'm used to 3" belts in my Pitts! > Does anybody offer a car-type belt. (ie. one that you just click > together--maybe that's what the inertial belts are, I don't know)??? Recent vintage car belts are inertial reel ..... and you can find them in an aviation-grade safety harness. You may want to re-think using lightweight auto belts. They're designed to restrain you in a car going ..... maybe 80 with a safety margin ..... but your airplane is doing more than twice that. Just a thought. > As for the hookers, I've decided to wait on it anyway. I guess that > they offer 20% off at OSH so I'll look at them there. Let's face it. Hooker is THE name on belts the Nascar guys use ...... I doubt you'll find better quality gear. We all hope we never need them, but if you do, wouldn't you want the best??? Linn do not archive > > > Thanks > Bill > > Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:29 PM PST US From: "Robert G. Wright" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses Sorry, guess I'm not aware of different configs. The ones I'm familiar with have the buckle on the crotch strap, so it would have to be used. Rob _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:40 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses Um, can't she just not attach the 5th strap for that flight? TDT do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Robert G. Wright Sent: Tue 2/14/2006 10:17 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses Valentine's Day Special bulletin: If you ever have the need to fly a special lady and a function and are time crunched for changing clothes, if she's wearing a skirt/dress you may want to rethink 5-pt harnesses for your cross-country cruiser and leave the 5-pts to the hard aerobatic guys. Of course you could always install a 4-pt or shoulder/lap belt combo on that side so you can do your acro solo. Rob #392 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill and Tami Britton Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:40 PM Subject: RV10-List: Hooker 5-point harnesses Over on the VAF website they've got a 30% group buy going on for the hooker 5-point harnesses. While I'm not quite finished with the tailcone yet it's kinda hard to pass on this if they will work. Can anybody a little further along in the build, or any flyers, tell me if these will work in the -10. Front and back or just front??? Any Mods required to install them??? Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Bill Britton RV-10 tailcone/ revisiting VS for the SB #40137 ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 08:46:05 PM PST US From: "Brian Sponcil" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Priming I've been using a rattle can self-etching primer (SEM) which seems like a decent compromise between effort and results - very little effort and good, albeit non-Mil Spec, results. FWIW - a recent (if not the latest) RVator touched on this very issue. Do you work in CR? If so, you're welcome to swing by the Spommert Aircraft Production Facility (aka my garage) to check it out for yourself. Just drop me a line off the list. -Brian N211BD #40497 Iowa City, IA ----- Original Message ----- From: shfeher@rockwellcollins.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: RV10-List: Priming I'm new here so please excuse me if: a. This question has been asked and beat to death already b. If this is not the right forum for this question I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision to build the ten. The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly. Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types (A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours. So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important, maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days??? Thanks! Skip ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 08:52:51 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RV10-List: inertial belt update --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" Just an update on the inertial belts from AMSAFE. The belts sizings have been finalized and four belts will be installed in an RV10 in TX in March. My lid is prepared and another set will go into mine when I get to that section. part numbers of the restraints are as follows: Front Seats: 4076-3-451-xxxx Rear Seats: 4076-3-461-xxxx Front Seats w/Extra lap Length: 4076-3-471-xxxx the xxxx is the color code. If you want to look at the airframe preparation go to www.inertialbetls.com . The procedure shows the lid off the aircraft. If you want to install them but already have fixed the lid in place then contact me as there is easy change to the procedure that will minimize the mess of installing the hard points externally. ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 08:57:14 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RV10-List: additional belt info --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" info provided was for the standard buckle. I am installing a set of inertial belts in my Glastar. I will have the airplane at OSH (thursday-saturday) if anyone wants to see the inertial belt or the rotary buckle. ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 09:38:56 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV10-List: Priming Thanks, Brian. No. I am the field sales guy in the NW (live in the Seattle area). But......I get to CR a lot and will be there the week of March 6th. I'll send you an e-mail directly and let's try to hook up. Skip do not archive "Brian Sponcil" Sent by: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com 02/15/2006 08:45 PM Please respond to rv10-list@matronics.com To cc Subject Re: RV10-List: Priming I've been using a rattle can self-etching primer (SEM) which seems like a decent compromise between effort and results - very little effort and good, albeit non-Mil Spec, results. FWIW - a recent (if not the latest) RVator touched on this very issue. Do you work in CR? If so, you're welcome to swing by the Spommert Aircraft Production Facility (aka my garage) to check it out for yourself. Just drop me a line off the list. -Brian N211BD #40497 Iowa City, IA ----- Original Message ----- From: shfeher@rockwellcollins.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 5:21 PM Subject: RV10-List: Priming I'm new here so please excuse me if: a. This question has been asked and beat to death already b. If this is not the right forum for this question I will be ordering an RV-10 Empennage Kit this fall. I built an RV-6 empennage many years ago, but now have 3 in our family, hence the decision to build the ten. The part of my RV6 project that I disliked more than I can say was the preparation and subsequent priming of all parts before assembly. Recently, I have been talking with a number of professional airplane types (A&Ps) and many are telling me to forget priming "and just build it". They cite examples such as Cessnas, which were never primed and many are still flying with little, or no corrosion after 50 years. Since I plan to hangar my airplane and I don't live near the ocean, I am inclined to take their advice. But.....it seems all of you guys are priming yours. So......what say you? And if you think priming is really that important, maybe there are some simpler methods or products these days??? Thanks! Skip