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1. 02:10 AM - Re: autopilot (rob kermanj)
2. 03:43 AM - Re: autopilot (Russell Daves)
3. 04:38 AM - Re: defrosters (Jesse Saint)
4. 05:11 AM - Re: new instrument panel (Wayne Edgerton)
5. 07:15 AM - Re: defrosters (seanblair@adelphia.net)
6. 08:38 AM - Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time (Bill and Tami Britton)
7. 09:04 AM - Re: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time (Bill and Tami Britton)
8. 09:30 AM - Engine combination (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
9. 09:31 AM - Re: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time ()
10. 10:11 AM - Re: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time (linn Walters)
11. 10:18 AM - Re: Engine combination (Tim Olson)
12. 10:19 AM - Re: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time (Tim Olson)
13. 10:23 AM - Re: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time (John Hilger)
14. 10:25 AM - Deep 7/8" plug socket (Tim Olson)
15. 10:28 AM - Re: Engine combination (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
16. 10:42 AM - Re: Deep 7/8" plug socket (Michael Schipper)
17. 11:18 AM - RV-10 Seats for Sale (Tim Olson)
18. 01:19 PM - autopilot (William)
19. 01:29 PM - Re: autopilot (Gary Specketer)
20. 01:48 PM - Re: autopilot (rob kermanj)
21. 02:07 PM - aileron trim (Chris Johnston)
22. 02:23 PM - Re: autopilot (Tim Olson)
23. 02:33 PM - Re: aileron trim (Tim Olson)
24. 03:13 PM - Re: Engine combination (Larry Rosen)
25. 03:22 PM - Re: Engine combination (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
26. 04:15 PM - DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived (Jeff Dalton)
27. 04:47 PM - Re: Engine combination (Tim Olson)
28. 04:49 PM - Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived (Merems)
29. 05:02 PM - Inspection Plates (John Jessen)
30. 05:10 PM - Re: Engine combination (Tommy Norman)
31. 05:31 PM - Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived (bruce breckenridge)
32. 05:39 PM - Re: Deep 7/8" plug socket ()
33. 06:09 PM - DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived ()
34. 06:57 PM - Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived (Bruce Patton)
35. 07:28 PM - Re: Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived (Sean Blair)
36. 07:45 PM - Re: Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived (Neal George)
37. 07:48 PM - Re: Engine combination (John W. Cox)
38. 08:17 PM - glassing (Robert G. Wright)
39. 08:45 PM - Re: glassing (Sean Stephens)
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I have a Trutrak in my -6. Just love it! It is precise and has the
functionality of much more expensive auto pilots.
If you are going to shoot ILS approaches, you will at least need
IIVSGV. Talk to your EFIS guy also. Blue mountain has their own
Auto pilot and Trutrak will not work with their system. GRT however
supports Trutrak nicely.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Feb 16, 2006, at 11:52 PM, Robert G. Wright wrote:
> What are some opinions on which trutrak to use? What functions are
> needed in the box itself, and what functions do we not need to buy
> in the A/P that the EFIS/GPS will provide for us (steering
> commands, vert speed, etc)
>
>
> Rob
>
> #392
>
>
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I agree with the other Rob who posted, the TruTrak DigiFlight II VSGV is what I
bought, going with the flat panel display instead of the round. I am using a
three screen GRT glass display (duel Horizon II and one Sport) for a hard IFR
panel. The following is a picture of the panel, almost completed:
The panel covering is a Kevlar overlay material. The bottom part of the panel
will also have the Kevlar overlay put on after all the break and rocker switches
holes are cut. The TruTrak autopilot is on the far left hand side above the
trim and ignition switch.
Russ Daves
#40044 (doors ready to install)
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert G. Wright
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:52 PM
Subject: RV10-List: autopilot
What are some opinions on which trutrak to use? What functions are needed in
the box itself, and what functions do we not need to buy in the A/P that the
EFIS/GPS will provide for us (steering commands, vert speed, etc)
Rob
#392
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We have a cooling fan system from Aircraft Spruce that has three ports, two
going to the radio stack and one unused. That could easily be run to a hole
in the glare shield to be used as a defrost. In fact, a fan with more ports
could be used and have two or more defrost ports. It would be always on,
but I can't imagine that that would make much difference, since the fan is
always running anyway, and the air is just from under the glare shield, so
it shouldn't be too hot or cold except maybe just starting out. Any reason
that this shouldn't work?
Thanks.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Fax: 815-377-3694
I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC,
please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me,
please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has
voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RAS
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters
Hi,
I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground without a fanmotor of
some description. You'll need quite a bit of forward motion to get air to
move through the entire system. In addition, the windscreen tends to steam
up when on the ground before and after engine start, ie, when you do not
have forward movement. It is even doubtful you'll have sufficient forward
motion during taxi.
The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer is a better option nad
it's not the first time I've heard about it.
I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with them.
----- Original Message -----
From: rob kermanj <mailto:rv10es@earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters
Thanks, I will look.
Do Not Archive.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote:
Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, vent parts
from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. There's some pics on our website of
the various components.
<http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm>
http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm
Jeremy P. Harris
Integrated Missile Defense
BMDS Architectures Lab
The Boeing Company
Washington, DC
Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T
Cell: (703) 627-6500
Fax: (703) 414-6372
MC: 793C-G007
Office: 825B
_____
From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net]
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM
Subject: RV10-List: defrosters
Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster system? I keep
thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the glare shield. Maybe some
of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's
necessary.
Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low ceilings
and you can't see out the front window!!
Wayne Edgerton
# 40336
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| Subject: | Re: new instrument panel |
How do I see the pictures of your panel? I must obviously be doing something incorrectly.
Nothing shows up on my view to be able to look at them.
Wayne Edgerton
# 40336
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--> RV10-List message posted by: seanblair@adelphia.net
How about using a defrost fan from a car. This way you get on, off, and multiple
speeds. Already 12 volts too.
Sean B
#40225
---- Jesse Saint <jesse@itecusa.org> wrote:
> We have a cooling fan system from Aircraft Spruce that has three ports, two
> going to the radio stack and one unused. That could easily be run to a hole
> in the glare shield to be used as a defrost. In fact, a fan with more ports
> could be used and have two or more defrost ports. It would be always on,
> but I can't imagine that that would make much difference, since the fan is
> always running anyway, and the air is just from under the glare shield, so
> it shouldn't be too hot or cold except maybe just starting out. Any reason
> that this shouldn't work?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Jesse Saint
>
> I-TEC, Inc.
>
> jesse@itecusa.org
>
> www.itecusa.org
>
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>
>
> I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC,
> please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me,
> please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has
> voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador.
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RAS
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:12 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm not to sure this set up will work on the ground without a fanmotor of
> some description. You'll need quite a bit of forward motion to get air to
> move through the entire system. In addition, the windscreen tends to steam
> up when on the ground before and after engine start, ie, when you do not
> have forward movement. It is even doubtful you'll have sufficient forward
> motion during taxi.
>
>
>
> The set up with the cooling fans out of a computer is a better option nad
> it's not the first time I've heard about it.
>
> I know there's RV4's and -6's flying with them.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: rob kermanj <mailto:rv10es@earthlink.net>
>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:00 PM
>
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: defrosters
>
>
>
> Thanks, I will look.
>
>
>
> Do Not Archive.
>
>
>
>
>
> rob kermanj
>
> rv10es@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Harris, Jeremy P wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick and I installed a defroster on our RV-10 using some tees, vent parts
> from a Cherokee, and a shutoff valve. There's some pics on our website of
> the various components.
>
> <http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm>
> http://jharris.net/Aviation/RV_10.htm
>
>
>
> Jeremy P. Harris
> Integrated Missile Defense
> BMDS Architectures Lab
>
> The Boeing Company
> Washington, DC
> Desk: (703) 414-6057 Dept: AV-2L-B27T
> Cell: (703) 627-6500
> Fax: (703) 414-6372
> MC: 793C-G007
> Office: 825B
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
> From: Wayne Edgerton [mailto:weeav8ter@grandecom.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:28 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: defrosters
>
> Has anyone installed or thought about installing a defroster system? I keep
> thing about running 2' hoses up to each side of the glare shield. Maybe some
> of you who have been flying for awhile, Vic, could tell me if you think it's
> necessary.
>
>
>
> Nothing can give you a bad hair day quicker than coming in IFR, low ceilings
> and you can't see out the front window!!
>
>
>
> Wayne Edgerton
>
>
>
> # 40336
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time |
Posted this yesterday morning and only got one response. I even sent the same
question and pictures to Vans and they didn't even answer yet. Anyway, on page
10-13 steps 4, 6, and 7 we are instructed to drill the end holes of each piece
to #12's into the longerons. What is the proper, or acceptable hole clearances
(to the edge of the longerons)??? Mine range from 1/4" to 1/8 inch on
the closest ones. Is this an acceptable distance or do I need to get new longerons
and start over???
Pictures are attached.
Thanks in advance,
Bill Britton
RV-10 Tailcone
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| Subject: | Re: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time |
Forgot to attach the pictures.
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami Britton
To: RV10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time
Posted this yesterday morning and only got one response. I even sent the same
question and pictures to Vans and they didn't even answer yet. Anyway, on
page 10-13 steps 4, 6, and 7 we are instructed to drill the end holes of each
piece to #12's into the longerons. What is the proper, or acceptable hole clearances
(to the edge of the longerons)??? Mine range from 1/4" to 1/8 inch on
the closest ones. Is this an acceptable distance or do I need to get new longerons
and start over???
Pictures are attached.
Thanks in advance,
Bill Britton
RV-10 Tailcone
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| Subject: | Engine combination |
Fellows:
What have the "flyers" been getting for Phase I fly-off time? 40 or 25
hours? Does the IO-540 with Hartzell qualify as an approved
combination, or is it not yet (or ever) "certified"?
TDT
40025
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| Subject: | Re: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time |
The holes on my longeron are uniformly 1/2" from the outboard edge of the longeron.
Sounds like your F-1014 aft deck was not square when you drilled the longeron.
As has often been said, the parts are cheap, so order a new part and do
it right.
Steve Mills 40486
N750SM reserved
wings
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami Britton
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time
Forgot to attach the pictures.
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami Britton
To: RV10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time
Posted this yesterday morning and only got one response. I even sent the
same question and pictures to Vans and they didn't even answer yet. Anyway,
on page 10-13 steps 4, 6, and 7 we are instructed to drill the end holes of each
piece to #12's into the longerons. What is the proper, or acceptable hole
clearances (to the edge of the longerons)??? Mine range from 1/4" to 1/8 inch
on the closest ones. Is this an acceptable distance or do I need to get new
longerons and start over???
Pictures are attached.
Thanks in advance,
Bill Britton
RV-10 Tailcone
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| Subject: | Re: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time |
Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> Posted this yesterday morning and only got one response. I even
> sent the same question and pictures to Vans and they didn't even
> answer yet. Anyway, on page 10-13 steps 4, 6, and 7 we are instructed
> to drill the end holes of each piece to #12's into the longerons.
> What is the proper, or acceptable hole clearances (to the edge of the
> longerons)??? Mine range from 1/4" to 1/8 inch on the closest ones.
> Is this an acceptable distance or do I need to get new longerons and
> start over???
>
> Pictures are attached.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bill Britton
> RV-10 Tailcone
You should have a copy of AC43.13. It will tell you far more than you
ever wanted to know about different construction materials and how to
work with them.
Go to
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/99C827DB9BAAC81B86256B4500596C4E?OpenDocument&Highlight=43
(you may have to cut and paste .... I haven't mastered 'small URL' yet)
and look in chapter 4 ...... 4-57 to be more exact, and you'll find
metal repairs ..... and a whole lot more. AC43.13 will be almost (I did
say almost) as valuable as a set of plans or an extra set of hands.
Trust me.
Linn
Do not archive ...... which was missing from the original message.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine combination |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I got 25 because of the IO-540/Hartzell Combo. That was one of the
first questions the DAR asked, and all I had to do was tell
him what I had and he automatically said "That will be good,
you'll only have a 25 hour flyoff."
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
> Fellows:
>
>
>
> What have the flyers been getting for Phase I fly-off time? 40 or 25
> hours? Does the IO-540 with Hartzell qualify as an approved
> combination, or is it not yet (or ever) certified?
>
>
>
> TDT
> 40025
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I guess I have the question of: Do you think you can do it
better the 2nd time around? If so, it may not be a bad
thing to rework. See if you're able to move things around
so that the next longeron would be drilled better. Then
you at least know if that option will help.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Bill and Tami Britton wrote:
> Posted this yesterday morning and only got one response. I even sent
> the same question and pictures to Vans and they didn't even answer yet.
> Anyway, on page 10-13 steps 4, 6, and 7 we are instructed to drill the
> end holes of each piece to #12's into the longerons. What is the
> proper, or acceptable hole clearances (to the edge of the longerons)???
> Mine range from 1/4" to 1/8 inch on the closest ones. Is this an
> acceptable distance or do I need to get new longerons and start over???
>
> Pictures are attached.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bill Britton
> RV-10 Tailcone
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| Subject: | Re: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time |
Bill
For your reference here is how mine came out. The outside edges of the deck were
lined up flush with the outside edges of the longerons, not the skins.
If the holes were moved outward much more the might be a problem with the washer
under the nut seating properly because of the radius of the extrusion.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami Britton
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time
Forgot to attach the pictures.
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill and Tami Britton
To: RV10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:33 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tailcone longeron hole clearance --one more time
Posted this yesterday morning and only got one response. I even sent the
same question and pictures to Vans and they didn't even answer yet. Anyway,
on page 10-13 steps 4, 6, and 7 we are instructed to drill the end holes of each
piece to #12's into the longerons. What is the proper, or acceptable hole
clearances (to the edge of the longerons)??? Mine range from 1/4" to 1/8 inch
on the closest ones. Is this an acceptable distance or do I need to get new
longerons and start over???
Pictures are attached.
Thanks in advance,
Bill Britton
RV-10 Tailcone
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| Subject: | Deep 7/8" plug socket |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Anyone have a good source on a nice deeeep 7/8" socket for
pulling sparkplugs? My Champion plugs in my old plane had
the nut higher towards the tip, so my Craftsman worked.
The Unison plugs that came with my stuff have the nut
way down low. My Craftsman socket only just touches
the nut area. I see Aircraft Spruce has a $49 plug
socket. Just thought someone must have one for something
reasonable.
Tim
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Engine combination |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Sweet.
TDT
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine combination
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I got 25 because of the IO-540/Hartzell Combo. That was one of the
first questions the DAR asked, and all I had to do was tell
him what I had and he automatically said "That will be good,
you'll only have a 25 hour flyoff."
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
> Fellows:
>
>
>
> What have the "flyers" been getting for Phase I fly-off time? 40 or
25
> hours? Does the IO-540 with Hartzell qualify as an approved
> combination, or is it not yet (or ever) "certified"?
>
>
>
> TDT
> 40025
>
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| Subject: | Re: Deep 7/8" plug socket |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Schipper <mike@learningplanet.com>
I just bought one from Avery for $15. It is "new surplus", and is not
chrome plated, but it works.
Regards,
Mike Schipper
-9A N63MS - Flying
www.my9a.com
On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:24 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Anyone have a good source on a nice deeeep 7/8" socket for
> pulling sparkplugs? My Champion plugs in my old plane had
> the nut higher towards the tip, so my Craftsman worked.
> The Unison plugs that came with my stuff have the nut
> way down low. My Craftsman socket only just touches
> the nut area. I see Aircraft Spruce has a $49 plug
> socket. Just thought someone must have one for something
> reasonable.
>
> Tim
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-10 Seats for Sale |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I've got my original, never been flown in, Front seat covers and
complete rear seat cushions for sale. They were those that were
made by Cleaveland and I had let them display at OSH 2005. They're
very nice seats. I have some photos of them on my site. The front
covers would be able to slide right onto your foam cushions, and
the rear are pre-assembled foam seats that would just lay on the
seatpans. If you're interested in my unused seat covers, I'll
sell them for $1,000.
The reason I am selling them is that over the past couple
months I allowed Abby from Flightline Interiors to use my plane
for patterning for her interior package. There's a lot of
initial patterning, fitting of pieces, and then rework and
refitting that gets done to make everything perfect. During
the time that she was up to do this work, I really enjoyed
working with her and decided to buy a set of her seat covers
as well as the interior. I was motivated by her lumbar
pouch and her ability to have my N-Number embroidered into
the seat covers, as well as how her rear seat cushions completely
cover the rear seatbacks.
Current prices on seat covers from Cleaveland would be
$1,380. http://www.cleavelandtool.com/rvinteriors/2005/RV10.htm
If you want their seat covers but in a different color, they
should be able to make them for you.
If you are interested in new seat covers from Abby at
Flightline Interiors: http://www.flightlineinteriors.com
you can see her website for details. Current prices on
her RV-10 set would be $1325. Her site is not updated
with the most current of photos. Over the next couple weeks
I'll try to get some good shots of my interior as I add the
carpet and get it all in order. Any photos of seats you've
seen prior to my first flight would be either prototype
seatcovers or my original Cleaveland ones. The new ones
are a bit different.
I can send them early next week to any takers. I'll take
more photos if needed. You pay the shipping.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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rob kermanj wrote:
>If you are going to shoot ILS approaches, you will at least need
>IIVSGV. Talk to your EFIS guy also.
TruTrack is a great autopilot and I also intend to use the Digiflight II VSGV,
however lets be clear on what is does and does not do. Firstly, the Digiflight
II VSGV will NOT track an ILS directly. There are no provisions in the Digiflight
for a VHF ILS Nav inputs, they only use GPS Nav data.
While you can use a II VSGV to laterally fly a GPS overlay to an ILS, it cannot
directly fly an ILS and will not track the glideslope even with the Vertical
GPS Steering capability. Since only the DFC & Sorcerer autopilots support external
HSIs, only they can track an ILS directly by tracking the HSI needles.
That being said however, here is how a GRT EFIS can trick a Digiflight II VSGV
into tracking an ILS. Im not sure but the Chelton should also be able to do the
same. You would wire the VHF/NAV radio signals into the GRT. The GRT would
use these signals to depict the HSI and glidescope on the EFIS. Since the GRT
now has the vertical and lateral guidance for the ILS from the VHF/NAV radio,
it can feed these to the TruTrack as GPS lateral and vertical steering commands.
In other words, the GRT EFIS would drive the autopilot.
For the Digiflight autopilots, you need something in between it and the VHF/NAV
radio if you want it to fly an ILS. For WAAS approaches with vertical guidance,
the GPS can drive the autopilot directly, but not for ILS approaches.
William Curtis
40237 - fuse
http://nerv10.com/
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Thank you for that clarification. It helps us non electron types.
Do not archive
Gary
40274 Working on breaklines and fuel lines
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 4:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: autopilot
rob kermanj wrote:
>If you are going to shoot ILS approaches, you will at least need
>IIVSGV. Talk to your EFIS guy also.
TruTrack is a great autopilot and I also intend to use the Digiflight II
VSGV, however lets be clear on what is does and does not do. Firstly, the
Digiflight II VSGV will NOT track an ILS directly. There are no provisions
in the Digiflight for a VHF ILS Nav inputs, they only use GPS Nav data.
While you can use a II VSGV to laterally fly a GPS overlay to an ILS, it
cannot directly fly an ILS and will not track the glideslope -even with the
Vertical GPS Steering capability. Since only the DFC & Sorcerer autopilots
support external HSIs, only they can track an ILS directly -by tracking the
HSI needles.
That being said however, here is how a GRT EFIS can "trick" a Digiflight II
VSGV into tracking an ILS. I'm not sure but the Chelton should also be able
to do the same. You would wire the VHF/NAV radio signals into the GRT. The
GRT would use these signals to depict the HSI and glidescope on the EFIS.
Since the GRT now has the vertical and lateral guidance for the ILS from the
VHF/NAV radio, it can feed these to the TruTrack as GPS lateral and vertical
steering commands. In other words, the GRT EFIS would drive the autopilot.
For the Digiflight autopilots, you need something in between it and the
VHF/NAV radio if you want it to fly an ILS. For WAAS approaches with
vertical guidance, the GPS can drive the autopilot directly, but not for ILS
approaches.
William Curtis
40237 - fuse
http://nerv10.com/
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--> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
I stand corrected. I was under the impression that with the
inclusion of the ARINC option with GRT, They were able to fly the ILS
approach. It is OK with me if they If they mimic the approch. I
will clarify it with GRT.
Thanks
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
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On Feb 17, 2006, at 4:16 PM, William wrote:
> rob kermanj wrote:
> >If you are going to shoot ILS approaches, you will at least need
> >IIVSGV. Talk to your EFIS guy also.
>
> TruTrack is a great autopilot and I also intend to use the
> Digiflight II VSGV, however lets be clear on what is does and does
> not do. Firstly, the Digiflight II VSGV will NOT track an ILS
> directly. There are no provisions in the Digiflight for a VHF ILS
> Nav inputs, they only use GPS Nav data.
>
> While you can use a II VSGV to laterally fly a GPS overlay to an
> ILS, it cannot directly fly an ILS and will not track the
> glideslope even with the Vertical GPS Steering capability. Since
> only the DFC & Sorcerer autopilots support external HSIs, only they
> can track an ILS directly by tracking the HSI needles.
>
> That being said however, here is how a GRT EFIS can trick a
> Digiflight II VSGV into tracking an ILS. Im not sure but the
> Chelton should also be able to do the same. You would wire the VHF/
> NAV radio signals into the GRT. The GRT would use these signals to
> depict the HSI and glidescope on the EFIS. Since the GRT now has
> the vertical and lateral guidance for the ILS from the VHF/NAV
> radio, it can feed these to the TruTrack as GPS lateral and
> vertical steering commands. In other words, the GRT EFIS would
> drive the autopilot.
>
> For the Digiflight autopilots, you need something in between it and
> the VHF/NAV radio if you want it to fly an ILS. For WAAS approaches
> with vertical guidance, the GPS can drive the autopilot directly,
> but not for ILS approaches.
> William Curtis
> 40237 - fuse
> http://nerv10.com/
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Hey all -
I was hoping someone could clear some stuff up for me about the
aileron trim... I searched the archives but couldn't find the info. In
Vans catalog, the aileron trim for the RV-10 says that the trim is a
spring bias system connected to the control column. I thought, however,
that I had heard that it was installed in the wing. Could someone who's
installed it clear this up for me? And also, what I should order if I
plan to install it?
Thanks
cj
#40410
wings
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
William is right. Also, regarding the Chelton, yes, it will
work with the VSGV and fly bth vertical and lateral guidance.
It becomes very hard to justify the more expensive AP's
if you have a powerful EFIS. The Sorcerer would be about
as good as you can get if you wanted the top of the line.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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William wrote:
> rob kermanj wrote:
> >If you are going to shoot ILS approaches, you will at least need
> >IIVSGV. Talk to your EFIS guy also.
>
> TruTrack is a great autopilot and I also intend to use the Digiflight II
> VSGV, however lets be clear on what is does and does not do. Firstly,
> the Digiflight II VSGV will NOT track an ILS directly. There are no
> provisions in the Digiflight for a VHF ILS Nav inputs, they only use GPS
> Nav data.
>
> While you can use a II VSGV to laterally fly a GPS overlay to an ILS, it
> cannot directly fly an ILS and will not track the glideslope even with
> the Vertical GPS Steering capability. Since only the DFC & Sorcerer
> autopilots support external HSIs, only they can track an ILS directly
> by tracking the HSI needles.
>
> That being said however, here is how a GRT EFIS can trick a Digiflight
> II VSGV into tracking an ILS. Im not sure but the Chelton should also
> be able to do the same. You would wire the VHF/NAV radio signals into
> the GRT. The GRT would use these signals to depict the HSI and
> glidescope on the EFIS. Since the GRT now has the vertical and lateral
> guidance for the ILS from the VHF/NAV radio, it can feed these to the
> TruTrack as GPS lateral and vertical steering commands. In other words,
> the GRT EFIS would drive the autopilot.
>
> For the Digiflight autopilots, you need something in between it and the
> VHF/NAV radio if you want it to fly an ILS. For WAAS approaches with
> vertical guidance, the GPS can drive the autopilot directly, but not for
> ILS approaches.
> William Curtis
> 40237 - fuse
> http://nerv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: aileron trim |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
It's definitely a wing installed spring system. You basically have a
pair of springs mounted to the aileron pushrod, with the center being
a kind of lever arrangement. The servo just swings the lever one way
or the other, which adds tension to one side. It seems to work fine,
and it's a pretty simple system. There isn't anything connected to
the control column. I installed mine in a completed wing. It will
be JUST slightly easier to do if your wingtips are off. You may
also want to paint that wing access plate after you install the trim.
other than that, it's super simple. If you plan to install it, the
only thing you need extra is a little wire (I think there might be
5 wires to the servo), and some sort of stick that has a Hat switch.
The Aileron trim is one of those things I wouldn't sweat until you
get nearly done with the project...and just install it right before you
mount your wings.
Tim
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Chris Johnston wrote:
> Hey all
> I was hoping someone could clear some stuff up for me about the
> aileron trim I searched the archives but couldnt find the info.
> In Vans catalog, the aileron trim for the RV-10 says that the trim
> is a spring bias system connected to the control column. I thought,
> however, that I had heard that it was installed in the wing. Could
> someone whos installed it clear this up for me? And also, what I
> should order if I plan to install it?
>
> Thanks
> cj
> #40410
> wings
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | Re: Engine combination |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Tim,
It is interesting that you got a 25 hr flyoff with the Aerosport
(experimental) IO-540. I would have thought that you would have gotten
the 40 hrs.
Makes it easier to get ready for Sun-N-Fun. I'll see you there.
Larry Rosen
http://lrosen.nerv10.com
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
>Sweet.
>
>TDT
>Do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:18 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine combination
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
>I got 25 because of the IO-540/Hartzell Combo. That was one of the
>first questions the DAR asked, and all I had to do was tell
>him what I had and he automatically said "That will be good,
>you'll only have a 25 hour flyoff."
>
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>
>
>>Fellows:
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>>What have the "flyers" been getting for Phase I fly-off time? 40 or
>>
>>
>25
>
>
>>hours? Does the IO-540 with Hartzell qualify as an approved
>>combination, or is it not yet (or ever) "certified"?
>>
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>>TDT
>>40025
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| Subject: | Engine combination |
One thing that may or may not make a difference is how the DAR interprets this
rule. I always understood it to mean an actual certified engine prop combo.
Technically the Hartzell blended airfoil prop for the -10 was specially made
for this package so it is not a certified prop in the respect of it being usable
on something like a Cherokee Six or something. But it is a certified combo,
per Van, on the -10.
My point is, like everything else with the Feds, don't expect it to always get
25 hours but we can hope.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine combination
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
--> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Sweet.
TDT
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine combination
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I got 25 because of the IO-540/Hartzell Combo. That was one of the first questions
the DAR asked, and all I had to do was tell him what I had and he automatically
said "That will be good, you'll only have a 25 hour flyoff."
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
> Fellows:
>
>
> What have the "flyers" been getting for Phase I fly-off time? 40 or
25
> hours? Does the IO-540 with Hartzell qualify as an approved
> combination, or is it not yet (or ever) "certified"?
>
>
> TDT
> 40025
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| Subject: | DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived |
My DDRT-2 arrived last week and all I can say it that Paul at Experimental Aero
does and awesome job building and shipping this tool.
If you're using a typical C-Frame tool you may not realize how much easier (and
quieter) your work could be.
It's worth every penny.
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| Subject: | Re: Engine combination |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Yeah, but it's still a Lycoming. When he told me about the 25, I even
pushed him and asked if that included an Aerosport. I think they're
just fine as long as you don't go with some actual alternative engine.
I'm sure it could vary from DAR to DAR to FSDO....but all the paperwork
went thru the MSP FSDO and it still made it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Larry Rosen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> Tim,
> It is interesting that you got a 25 hr flyoff with the Aerosport
> (experimental) IO-540. I would have thought that you would have gotten
> the 40 hrs.
>
> Makes it easier to get ready for Sun-N-Fun. I'll see you there.
>
> Larry Rosen
> http://lrosen.nerv10.com
>
> Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
>> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>>
>>
>> Sweet.
>>
>> TDT
>> Do not archive
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:18 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine combination
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> I got 25 because of the IO-540/Hartzell Combo. That was one of the
>> first questions the DAR asked, and all I had to do was tell
>> him what I had and he automatically said "That will be good,
>> you'll only have a 25 hour flyoff."
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Fellows:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What have the "flyers" been getting for Phase I fly-off time? 40 or
>>>
>> 25
>>
>>> hours? Does the IO-540 with Hartzell qualify as an approved
>>> combination, or is it not yet (or ever) "certified"?
>>>
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>>> TDT
>>> 40025
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| Subject: | Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived |
Jeff,
Thanks for the feedback. Enjoy the tool.
Build on....
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Dalton
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:13 PM
Subject: RV10-List: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived
My DDRT-2 arrived last week and all I can say it that Paul at Experimental Aero
does and awesome job building and shipping this tool.
If you're using a typical C-Frame tool you may not realize how much easier (and
quieter) your work could be.
It's worth every penny.
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| Subject: | Inspection Plates |
Anyone installing clear (plexi?) inspection covers / plates instead of
aluminum?
John Jessen
~328
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| Subject: | Engine combination |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tommy Norman" <tie-norman@comcast.net>
A local 7A was signed off in Oct. and received a 40 hour fly off. It is
equipped with a Superior XP-360 and the blended airfoil from Van's. I
have seen this exact combo get a 25 hour fly off from another DAR. As
Tim said, it does vary.
(fingers crossed for 25 and a BIG box)
Tommy
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine combination
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Yeah, but it's still a Lycoming. When he told me about the 25, I even
pushed him and asked if that included an Aerosport. I think they're
just fine as long as you don't go with some actual alternative engine.
I'm sure it could vary from DAR to DAR to FSDO....but all the paperwork
went thru the MSP FSDO and it still made it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Larry Rosen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> Tim,
> It is interesting that you got a 25 hr flyoff with the Aerosport
> (experimental) IO-540. I would have thought that you would have
gotten
> the 40 hrs.
>
> Makes it easier to get ready for Sun-N-Fun. I'll see you there.
>
> Larry Rosen
> http://lrosen.nerv10.com
>
> Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
>> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>>
>>
>> Sweet.
>>
>> TDT
>> Do not archive
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 1:18 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine combination
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> I got 25 because of the IO-540/Hartzell Combo. That was one of the
>> first questions the DAR asked, and all I had to do was tell
>> him what I had and he automatically said "That will be good,
>> you'll only have a 25 hour flyoff."
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Fellows:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What have the "flyers" been getting for Phase I fly-off time? 40 or
>>>
>> 25
>>
>>> hours? Does the IO-540 with Hartzell qualify as an approved
>>> combination, or is it not yet (or ever) "certified"?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> TDT
>>> 40025
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived |
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I've got a fellow RV(9) builder that loves his DDRT-2. My only problem with
switching over is that if you take away our C-frame, then we've got nothing
else to smack during the building process. I agree, the construction is
top-notch and the temptation is very strong to become a convert.
For those that have spent some real time using both...what are your
thoughts?
Bruce
elevators
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| Subject: | Re: Deep 7/8" plug socket |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <jim@combsfive.com>
Tim,
I bought a 7/8" 1/2" Dirve, Kobalt socket from Lowes. It's 3-1/4" deep compared
to my Craftsman at 2-1/2".
Jim Combs
N312F
40192 - Fuselage
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| Subject: | DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
The DDRT-2( I thinks if he named R2-D2) will sound cool,is a clever and nice machine
,if I have a possibility to improve ,I will made the bottom set much closet
to the border ,and instead of square front,only a V shape,that will give a
versatility hard to beat.
In my opinion I own to his guy and the cogsdill company a nice couple of hundred.
hours save from the project,my opinion only.
Hugo
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> From: "bruce breckenridge" <bbreckenridge@gmail.com>
> Date: 2006/02/17 Fri PM 08:29:57 EST
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived
>
> do not archive
>
> I've got a fellow RV(9) builder that loves his DDRT-2. My only problem with
> switching over is that if you take away our C-frame, then we've got nothing
> else to smack during the building process. I agree, the construction is
> top-notch and the temptation is very strong to become a convert.
>
> For those that have spent some real time using both...what are your
> thoughts?
>
> Bruce
> elevators
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived |
I welded up a dimpler with angle iron from an old bedframe. Finished my RV-6A,
loaned the thing to another builder. It is on its third airframe, and still
works well (loudly). Much more in the RV frame of mind.
Bruce Patton
Waiting on retirement for the 10
gommone7@bellsouth.net wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by:
The DDRT-2( I thinks if he named R2-D2) will sound cool,is a clever and nice machine
,if I have a possibility to improve ,I will made the bottom set much closet
to the border ,and instead of square front,only a V shape,that will give a
versatility hard to beat.
In my opinion I own to his guy and the cogsdill company a nice couple of hundred.
hours save from the project,my opinion only.
Hugo
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> From: "bruce breckenridge"
> Date: 2006/02/17 Fri PM 08:29:57 EST
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived
>
> do not archive
>
> I've got a fellow RV(9) builder that loves his DDRT-2. My only problem with
> switching over is that if you take away our C-frame, then we've got nothing
> else to smack during the building process. I agree, the construction is
> top-notch and the temptation is very strong to become a convert.
>
> For those that have spent some real time using both...what are your
> thoughts?
>
> Bruce
> elevators
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived |
The DRDT-2 is so much better than a regular C-frame. It allows you to use
you other hand to guide your part through instead of holding a mallet. Just
make sure you put the handle in the up position when you're done using it.
It can really hurt the ribs when you walk into it. Maybe a bright colored
handle would be good instead of black. Glad to have it.
Sean B
#40225
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bruce
breckenridge
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:30 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived
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I've got a fellow RV(9) builder that loves his DDRT-2. My only problem with
switching over is that if you take away our C-frame, then we've got nothing
else to smack during the building process. I agree, the construction is
top-notch and the temptation is very strong to become a convert.
For those that have spent some real time using both...what are your
thoughts?
Bruce
elevators
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| Subject: | Re: DDRT-2 Dimpler arrived |
I have both.
C-Frame dimpling sucks.
DRDT-2 ROCKS!
Thanks again Paul.
Neal E. George
244 Andrews Street
Maxwell AFB, AL 36113
Home - 334-262-8993
Cell - 334-546-2033
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I've got a fellow RV(9) builder that loves his DDRT-2. My only problem
with switching over is that if you take away our C-frame, then we've got
nothing else to smack during the building process. I agree, the
construction is top-notch and the temptation is very strong to become a
convert.
For those that have spent some real time using both...what are your
thoughts?
Bruce
elevators
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| Subject: | Engine combination |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
The subject of 25 vs. 40 should be more clear than the confusion
created. A Superior XP is an experimental engine not a certified
Lycoming IO. The propeller needs to have FAA certification as well as
the engine to get to 25 hours, to which the Hartzell C2YR-1BF/F8068D
has. The easy path is the exact match of certified powerplant with the
certified propeller chosen/proven by a certified GA manufacturer.
As you pick a certified Lycoming (rebuilt) with a separate (non paired)
propeller, it is up to the authority of the DAR you chose. So chose
wisely. An XP engine whether by Monte Barrett, Precision, or Aero Sport
is not certified. Aero Sport does a remarkable job rebuilding certified
Lycoming engines at a fair price. Superior proves a great service of
helping builders assembly their own experimental (non certified)
powerplant at an additional savings. You just fly off the 40 hours.
If you modify the VANS plans on the airframe, you get the 40 hours as
well.
John - KUAO
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tommy Norman
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:10 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine combination
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tommy Norman" <tie-norman@comcast.net>
A local 7A was signed off in Oct. and received a 40 hour fly off. It is
equipped with a Superior XP-360 and the blended airfoil from Van's. I
have seen this exact combo get a 25 hour fly off from another DAR. As
Tim said, it does vary.
(fingers crossed for 25 and a BIG box)
Tommy
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I have no foam rib material left over for the emp tip fairings. Is there a
something available locally that will work as the backing for glassing in
the backside of the tips?
Rob #392
Emp attach
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
I just went to a Hobby or Craft store locally. They usually have plenty
of foam choices in various thicknesses.
-Sean #40303
Robert G. Wright wrote:
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> I have no foam rib material left over for the emp tip fairings. Is
> there a something available locally that will work as the backing for
> glassing in the backside of the tips?
>
>
>
> Rob #392
>
> Emp attach
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