RV10-List Digest Archive

Tue 02/21/06


Total Messages Posted: 24



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     1. 07:49 AM - pumping tires (Chris Hukill)
     2. 07:57 AM - Re: Small clearance between nose wheel valve stem and nose wheel fork. (JSMcGrew@aol.com)
     3. 08:11 AM - GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton (Tim Olson)
     4. 08:27 AM - Re: Small clearance between nose wheel valve stem and nose wheel fork. (John Gonzalez)
     5. 10:56 AM - Hole Deburring (Fred Williams, M.D.)
     6. 12:49 PM - Installing aux fuel tank  (Chris , Susie Darcy)
     7. 12:53 PM - Re: Installing aux fuel tank  (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
     8. 01:28 PM - Re: Installing aux fuel tank  (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
     9. 01:35 PM - Re: Installing aux fuel tank  (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    10. 03:30 PM - Re: Small clearance between nose wheel valve stem and nose wheel fork. (Patrick Pulis)
    11. 03:43 PM - Re: pumping tires (John W. Cox)
    12. 03:56 PM - Re: Antenna options. (bob.kaufmann)
    13. 04:55 PM - Baggage Door (Chris)
    14. 05:51 PM - Re: Installing aux fuel tank  (John Jessen)
    15. 05:58 PM - Re: Installing aux fuel tank (Sean Stephens)
    16. 06:19 PM - Re: Installing aux fuel tank  (John W. Cox)
    17. 06:21 PM - Re: Baggage Door (John Dunne)
    18. 06:34 PM - Riveting (Paul Grimstad)
    19. 06:41 PM - Re: Riveting (McGANN, Ron)
    20. 06:54 PM - Re: Riveting (Jim Carlton)
    21. 07:18 PM - Re: Riveting (Larry Rosen)
    22. 07:42 PM - Re: Riveting (David McNeill)
    23. 09:07 PM - Re: DNA'S (Installing aux fuel tank) (John Gonzalez)
    24. 10:19 PM - Installing aux fuel tank  (Chris , Susie Darcy)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:49:50 AM PST US
    From: "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net>
    Subject: pumping tires
    I also used the spring loaded doors and painted white line on my RV8, and bought a 5 inch valve core extension at a semi-truck supply house. HOWEVER, since I changed out my tubes to Desser Tire supplied (800 247-8473), Aero Class Leakguard inner tubes ($33 each), I have not had to add any air to either tire! That change was in Nov of 2003. They really work! Chris Hukill Installing aux fuel tank in QB fuselage


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    Time: 07:57:17 AM PST US
    From: JSMcGrew@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Small clearance between nose wheel valve stem and nose
    wheel fork. There isn't enough clearance for me when I install my front tire valve stem cover either. I was planning using a plastic cover from my car tires, but I just went out to try that and that gives about 0.01" clearance on the fork. Jim McGrew 40134 RV-10 list, On my RV-10 nose wheel I'm finding that the valve stem (with the valve stem cover off) misses the nose wheel fork by only 1/8". If the valve stem cover is on, the valve stem cover hits the nose wheel fork when the wheel is rotated. Is this what others are seeing? Tim -- Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA) RV-6A N47TD -- 830 hrs RV-10 #40059 under construction


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    Time: 08:11:41 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: GTX330 TIS with DAC GDC34A/Chelton
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> At one point on a list I had a reply from someone who actually was using the GDC34A Arinc to serial converter like I am to get TIS traffic on their Chelton or other EFIS from the GTX330 Transponder. Right now that's my last remaining thing to debug that I've identified, and I'm hoping to talk to someone who's got it working to verify settings. Anyone out there with that equipment that can comment? -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive


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    Time: 08:27:42 AM PST US
    From: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Small clearance between nose wheel valve stem and nose
    wheel fork. --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Tim, I do not know if this makes a difference, but perhaps you should test the valve stem clearence in turns and such when the tire is less inflated and with different weight on the wheel. If the clearence is that small, some of the above factors may make a major difference and tear the stem off. Then you would be like the Airbus landing in Los Angeles with the stuck front gear. Just thinking out loud. On another two notes. Did anyone find a fantastic hole deburring tool. I find that I am putting my body into some very strange positions to use the hand hole deburrer. I woke up with a very sore back and one leg longer then the other. I can't believe no one sells a tool specifically for this. A battery opporated device, small in both legth and diameter, like a thick permanent marker. My right angle drill at low RPM still chatters slightly and the holes are not as clean as the manual tool. Item two: What should one look to spend on a rebuilt IO- 540. and how much to spend on a set of pipes for the engine. Does the plane need to go to the pipe manufacturer or do they have patterns for our cowling. Thanks, The un-educated Glider guy. JG 409 >From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Small clearance between nose wheel valve stem and >nose wheel fork. >Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:57:55 -0600 > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > >Just checked mine tonight for you. I never really noticed it >before, but with the cap on, mine has very little (1/16" or >maybe 1/8" if I'm real lucky) clearance when it turns. >Haven't had a problem, but yeah, it sure is close. > >Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >do not archive > > >Tim Lewis wrote: >>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu> >> >>RV-10 list, >> >>On my RV-10 nose wheel I'm finding that the valve stem (with the valve >>stem cover off) misses the nose wheel fork by only 1/8". If the valve >>stem cover is on, the valve stem cover hits the nose wheel fork when the >>wheel is rotated. Is this what others are seeing? >> >>Tim > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > >


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    Time: 10:56:59 AM PST US
    From: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@cox-internet.com>
    Subject: Hole Deburring
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@cox-internet.com> Reply to John Gonzalez RE: hole deburring. I found a used set of the Cogsdill deburring tools on ebay. I got them for $75. I think they work well. Easy to use. I have to battery operated drills and am currently working on the elevators. Will put the number 40 size in one drill and the 1/8 in the other. Couple revolutions on the outside and inside of the hole and it's done. I think it works better than the hand deburring tools. Fred Williams drfred@cox-internet.com 40515 empenage congratulations to Tim Olsen. Couple years and we'll be worring about how to get all the panel gizmo's to work. Dr Fred.


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    Time: 12:49:11 PM PST US
    From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Installing aux fuel tank
    Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank. Chris 388 ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Hukill To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:00 AM Subject: RV10-List: pumping tires I also used the spring loaded doors and painted white line on my RV8, and bought a 5 inch valve core extension at a semi-truck supply house. HOWEVER, since I changed out my tubes to Desser Tire supplied (800 247-8473), Aero Class Leakguard inner tubes ($33 each), I have not had to add any air to either tire! That change was in Nov of 2003. They really work! Chris Hukill Installing aux fuel tank in QB fuselage


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    Time: 12:53:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Installing aux fuel tank
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris , Susie Darcy Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank. Chris 388 ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Hukill <mailto:cjhukill@cox.net> To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:00 AM Subject: RV10-List: pumping tires I also used the spring loaded doors and painted white line on my RV8, and bought a 5 inch valve core extension at a semi-truck supply house. HOWEVER, since I changed out my tubes to Desser Tire supplied (800 247-8473), Aero Class Leakguard inner tubes ($33 each), I have not had to add any air to either tire! That change was in Nov of 2003. They really work! Chris Hukill Installing aux fuel tank in QB fuselage


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    Time: 01:28:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Installing aux fuel tank
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    Why would you think a conversation on auxiliary fuel tanks need not be in the archive? From what I understand this list is setup to share ideas and tips on building an RV10, and I would be very interested in extending the fuel range by having a removable aux tank in the passenger area. Yes, I would look in the archives first to not ask the same questions multiple times, but by using the DNA this will never get in there, depending on which email he replies too. Most times I would agree, but in this case I think it is a valuable discussion. Just my .02 Dan Lloyd 40269 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris , Susie Darcy Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank. Chris 388 ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Hukill <mailto:cjhukill@cox.net> To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:00 AM Subject: RV10-List: pumping tires I also used the spring loaded doors and painted white line on my RV8, and bought a 5 inch valve core extension at a semi-truck supply house. HOWEVER, since I changed out my tubes to Desser Tire supplied (800 247-8473), Aero Class Leakguard inner tubes ($33 each), I have not had to add any air to either tire! That change was in Nov of 2003. They really work! Chris Hukill Installing aux fuel tank in QB fuselage


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    Time: 01:35:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Installing aux fuel tank
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Chris' answer will be interesting to archive when he gives it, but what's the point of archiving a message that says, "Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank." TDT 40025 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:27 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Why would you think a conversation on auxiliary fuel tanks need not be in the archive? From what I understand this list is setup to share ideas and tips on building an RV10, and I would be very interested in extending the fuel range by having a removable aux tank in the passenger area. Yes, I would look in the archives first to not ask the same questions multiple times, but by using the DNA this will never get in there, depending on which email he replies too. Most times I would agree, but in this case I think it is a valuable discussion. Just my .02 Dan Lloyd 40269 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris , Susie Darcy Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank. Chris 388 ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Hukill <mailto:cjhukill@cox.net> To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:00 AM Subject: RV10-List: pumping tires I also used the spring loaded doors and painted white line on my RV8, and bought a 5 inch valve core extension at a semi-truck supply house. HOWEVER, since I changed out my tubes to Desser Tire supplied (800 247-8473), Aero Class Leakguard inner tubes ($33 each), I have not had to add any air to either tire! That change was in Nov of 2003. They really work! Chris Hukill Installing aux fuel tank in QB fuselage


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    Time: 03:30:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Small clearance between nose wheel valve stem and nose
    wheel fork.
    From: "Patrick Pulis" <patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Patrick Pulis" <patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au> John, I use a cordless screwdriver with the deburring bit from Avery to deburr large volumes of parts. It tuns as slow or slower than a hand operated de-burring tool and they come out lovely. I think its an Ozito brand AUS$17 from a hardware store here downunder. Patrick South Australia -----Original Message----- From: John Gonzalez [mailto:indigoonlatigo@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2006 2:38 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Small clearance between nose wheel valve stem and nose wheel fork. --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" --> <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Tim, I do not know if this makes a difference, but perhaps you should test the valve stem clearence in turns and such when the tire is less inflated and with different weight on the wheel. If the clearence is that small, some of the above factors may make a major difference and tear the stem off. Then you would be like the Airbus landing in Los Angeles with the stuck front gear. Just thinking out loud. On another two notes. Did anyone find a fantastic hole deburring tool. I find that I am putting my body into some very strange positions to use the hand hole deburrer. I woke up with a very sore back and one leg longer then the other. I can't believe no one sells a tool specifically for this. A battery opporated device, small in both legth and diameter, like a thick permanent marker. My right angle drill at low RPM still chatters slightly and the holes are not as clean as the manual tool. Item two: What should one look to spend on a rebuilt IO- 540. and how much to spend on a set of pipes for the engine. Does the plane need to go to the pipe manufacturer or do they have patterns for our cowling. Thanks, The un-educated Glider guy. JG 409 >From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Small clearance between nose wheel valve stem >and nose wheel fork. >Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:57:55 -0600 > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > >Just checked mine tonight for you. I never really noticed it before, >but with the cap on, mine has very little (1/16" or maybe 1/8" if I'm >real lucky) clearance when it turns. >Haven't had a problem, but yeah, it sure is close. > >Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >do not archive > > >Tim Lewis wrote: >>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Lewis <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu> >> >>RV-10 list, >> >>On my RV-10 nose wheel I'm finding that the valve stem (with the valve >>stem cover off) misses the nose wheel fork by only 1/8". If the valve >>stem cover is on, the valve stem cover hits the nose wheel fork when >>the wheel is rotated. Is this what others are seeing? >> >>Tim > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > >


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    Time: 03:43:08 PM PST US
    Subject: pumping tires
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Hopefully, you all know the added advantages of (tank) nitrogen rather than compressed air for long term pressure and tube maintenance. Just a side note. John - $00.02 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:01 AM Subject: RV10-List: pumping tires I also used the spring loaded doors and painted white line on my RV8, and bought a 5 inch valve core extension at a semi-truck supply house. HOWEVER, since I changed out my tubes to Desser Tire supplied (800 247-8473), Aero Class Leakguard inner tubes ($33 each), I have not had to add any air to either tire! That change was in Nov of 2003. They really work! Chris Hukill Installing aux fuel tank in QB fuselage


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    Time: 03:56:35 PM PST US
    From: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
    Subject: Antenna options.
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net> I'm a slow learner, are you related to the Saint that was part of the Waodani tribe, as shown in the "End of the Spear" and the "Beyond the Gates of Splendor. Please reply off line. Bob K Building baggage door. 40125, N104BK Do not archive.


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    Time: 04:55:58 PM PST US
    From: "Chris" <toaster73@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Baggage Door
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris" <toaster73@earthlink.net> Anyone looking into modding the baggage door to a "clean" non-piano hinge design with internal hinges (like a Bonanza)? Or is it even possible? Chris Lucas Inventory Slow build Fuse #40072


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    Time: 05:51:21 PM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Installing aux fuel tank
    Actually, this allows me to ask a question that is probably answerable if I took the time to go look it up on the Matronics rules page. If Do Not Archive is in a post, anywhere in a post, does that post then not get archived? If so, then I agree with Dan, otherwise, I agree with Tim. This is not quite like Tevya, where they are both right but can't both be right, but it's close. Now, pardon me, I must go out to the Barn and fix my Wagon. dO nOt ArchiVE _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Chris' answer will be interesting to archive when he gives it, but what's the point of archiving a message that says, "Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank." TDT 40025 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:27 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Why would you think a conversation on auxiliary fuel tanks need not be in the archive? From what I understand this list is setup to share ideas and tips on building an RV10, and I would be very interested in extending the fuel range by having a removable aux tank in the passenger area. Yes, I would look in the archives first to not ask the same questions multiple times, but by using the DNA this will never get in there, depending on which email he replies too. Most times I would agree, but in this case I think it is a valuable discussion. Just my .02 Dan Lloyd 40269 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:53 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris , Susie Darcy Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank. Chris 388 ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Hukill <mailto:cjhukill@cox.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:00 AM Subject: RV10-List: pumping tires I also used the spring loaded doors and painted white line on my RV8, and bought a 5 inch valve core extension at a semi-truck supply house. HOWEVER, since I changed out my tubes to Desser Tire supplied (800 247-8473), Aero Class Leakguard inner tubes ($33 each), I have not had to add any air to either tire! That change was in Nov of 2003. They really work! Chris Hukill Installing aux fuel tank in QB fuselage


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    Time: 05:58:41 PM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Installing aux fuel tank
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net> ANYWHERE in the post. "do not archive" not needed here, cause it's included a few times below already. -Sean #40303 (bottom wing skins) John Jessen wrote: > Actually, this allows me to ask a question that is probably answerable > if I took the time to go look it up on the Matronics rules page. > If Do Not Archive is in a post, anywhere in a post, does that post > then not get archived? If so, then I agree with Dan, otherwise, I > agree with Tim. This is not quite like Tevya, where they are both > right but can't both be right, but it's close. Now, pardon me, I must > go out to the Barn and fix my Wagon. > dO nOt ArchiVE > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim > Dawson-Townsend > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:35 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank > > Chris answer will be interesting to archive when he gives it, but > whats the point of archiving a message that says, > > Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank. > > TDT > > 40025 > > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Lloyd, > Daniel R. > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2006 4:27 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank > > Why would you think a conversation on auxiliary fuel tanks need not be > in the archive? From what I understand this list is setup to share > ideas and tips on building an RV10, and I would be very interested in > extending the fuel range by having a removable aux tank in the > passenger area. Yes, I would look in the archives first to not ask the > same questions multiple times, but by using the DNA this will never > get in there, depending on which email he replies too. > > Most times I would agree, but in this case I think it is a valuable > discussion. > > Just my .02 > > Dan Lloyd > > 40269 > > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim > Dawson-Townsend > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:53 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank > > Do not archive > > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris , > Susie Darcy > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2006 3:48 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank > > Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank. > > Chris 388 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Chris Hukill <mailto:cjhukill@cox.net> > > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:00 AM > > *Subject:* RV10-List: pumping tires > > I also used the spring loaded doors and painted white line on my > RV8, and bought a 5 inch valve core extension at a semi-truck > supply house. HOWEVER, since I changed out my tubes to Desser Tire > supplied (800 247-8473), Aero Class Leakguard inner tubes ($33 > each), _I have not had to add any air to either tire!_ That change > was in Nov of **_2003_**. They really work! > > Chris Hukill > > Installing aux fuel tank in QB fuselage >


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    Time: 06:19:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Installing aux fuel tank
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    The idea of an archive is of great value, only if the readers use it First. We are getting lots of repeat questions (with answers waiting quietly in the Archive) recently from individuals who were not privy back a year ago. If they don't look for it the archive first, value is NOT. Much of what is said does not need to be filed into perpetuity. Some people are lazy, others just want it permanently recorded. I support Tim. Hence. Do Not Archive John ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:49 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Actually, this allows me to ask a question that is probably answerable if I took the time to go look it up on the Matronics rules page. If Do Not Archive is in a post, anywhere in a post, does that post then not get archived? If so, then I agree with Dan, otherwise, I agree with Tim. This is not quite like Tevya, where they are both right but can't both be right, but it's close. Now, pardon me, I must go out to the Barn and fix my Wagon. dO nOt ArchiVE ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Chris' answer will be interesting to archive when he gives it, but what's the point of archiving a message that says, "Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank." TDT 40025


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    Time: 06:21:46 PM PST US
    From: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au>
    Subject: Baggage Door
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au> I don't know if I'd bother Chris, it's a pretty simple design as is and reasonably clean. John #40315 (baggage door, waiting on soundproofing) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2006 10:53 AM Subject: RV10-List: Baggage Door --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris" <toaster73@earthlink.net> Anyone looking into modding the baggage door to a "clean" non-piano hinge design with internal hinges (like a Bonanza)? Or is it even possible? Chris Lucas Inventory Slow build Fuse #40072


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    Time: 06:34:07 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Grimstad" <bldgrv10450@comcast.net>
    Subject: Riveting
    I have found great results using 2" packaging tape to cover and protect skins while riveting. I started with a tip from Randy Debauw using the packaging tape to cover the head of the swivel headed rivet set. Then I decided to try packaging tape on the skin for holding and (setting protection), works great. Anyone doing this? I use SOLVE cleaner by SEM to wipe the skins when complete. Paul Grimstad RV10 #450 closing elevators


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    Time: 06:41:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Riveting
    From: "McGANN, Ron" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com>
    Paul - yes good tip. I have used the el cheapo plastic (rather than cloth) packing tape on my flush set extensively throughout the build process with excellent results. Started out taping rivets, but found results were just as good with the tape on the flush set. Also works brilliantly on a bucking bar when back riveting. cheers, Ron do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Grimstad Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2006 1:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: Riveting I have found great results using 2" packaging tape to cover and protect skins while riveting. I started with a tip from Randy Debauw using the packaging tape to cover the head of the swivel headed rivet set. Then I decided to try packaging tape on the skin for holding and (setting protection), works great. Anyone doing this? I use SOLVE cleaner by SEM to wipe the skins when complete. Paul Grimstad RV10 #450 closing elevators


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    Time: 06:54:58 PM PST US
    From: Jim Carlton <jcarlton3@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Riveting
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Jim Carlton <jcarlton3@cox.net> On Tuesday 21 February 2006 09:32 pm, Paul Grimstad wrote: > I have found great results using 2" packaging tape Clear plastic tape? how thick? (mils) How about masking tape, would that work?


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    Time: 07:18:03 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Riveting
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> I use masking tape on my flush set. The blue type masking tape does not last as long and the regular. I also use it on the sides of bucking bars to prevent scratches. Larry Rosen http://lrosen.nerv10.c0m Jim Carlton wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: Jim Carlton <jcarlton3@cox.net> > >On Tuesday 21 February 2006 09:32 pm, Paul Grimstad wrote: > > >>I have found great results using 2" packaging tape >> >> >Clear plastic tape? how thick? (mils) How about masking tape, would that >work? > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:42:10 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Riveting
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net> The tape we use for virtually all aircraft work is http://www.uline.com/ProductDetail.asp?model=S-10248&root=&searchedkeywords=s-10248 and no masking tape is not good for riveting; leaves a residue and is not transparent. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Carlton" <jcarlton3@cox.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Riveting > --> RV10-List message posted by: Jim Carlton <jcarlton3@cox.net> > > On Tuesday 21 February 2006 09:32 pm, Paul Grimstad wrote: >> I have found great results using 2" packaging tape > Clear plastic tape? how thick? (mils) How about masking tape, would that > work? > > >


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    Time: 09:07:45 PM PST US
    From: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: DNA'S (Installing aux fuel tank)
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> I keep waiting to hear about the aux fuel tanks and keep finding issues about archives and DNAs. One thing to consider each time you ask a question is to make the statement, " I have read the archives pertaining to this question and I was wondering whether anyone else has something to offer?" Then we can all go back to the archives and re read and post only that information that is new and improved. An interesting thing to consider is that just because you find something in the archives, there might be someone else who has since done something in a better way. Also consider, if there is a post which you feel you have already dealt with and have nothing further to offer, then delete it without wasting your time reading it. This list is a great resource, but you don't have to click if you don't want to. So many options and so little time! Thanks for all the suggestions on the riveting of the tailcone JG >From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> >To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 >18:18:09 -0800 > >The idea of an archive is of great value, only if the readers use it >First. We are getting lots of repeat questions (with answers waiting >quietly in the Archive) recently from individuals who were not privy >back a year ago. If they don't look for it the archive first, value is >NOT. Much of what is said does not need to be filed into perpetuity. >Some people are lazy, others just want it permanently recorded. I >support Tim. Hence. > > >Do Not Archive > > >John > > >________________________________ > >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen >Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:49 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank > > >Actually, this allows me to ask a question that is probably answerable >if I took the time to go look it up on the Matronics rules page. > > >If Do Not Archive is in a post, anywhere in a post, does that post then >not get archived? If so, then I agree with Dan, otherwise, I agree with >Tim. This is not quite like Tevya, where they are both right but can't >both be right, but it's close. Now, pardon me, I must go out to the >Barn and fix my Wagon. > > >dO nOt ArchiVE > > >________________________________ > >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim >Dawson-Townsend >Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:35 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank > >Chris' answer will be interesting to archive when he gives it, but >what's the point of archiving a message that says, > > >"Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank." > > >TDT > >40025 > >


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    Time: 10:19:06 PM PST US
    From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Installing aux fuel tank
    Chris H has a quick build and is installing Aux fuel tank.......I searched the archive and nothing about his instalation that I could find ??? Lots of people talk but some are doing thats why I asked Chris H. So my Question stands ......Sooks please press delete!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chris 388 ----- Original Message ----- From: John W. Cox To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 1:18 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank The idea of an archive is of great value, only if the readers use it First. We are getting lots of repeat questions (with answers waiting quietly in the Archive) recently from individuals who were not privy back a year ago. If they don't look for it the archive first, value is NOT. Much of what is said does not need to be filed into perpetuity. Some people are lazy, others just want it permanently recorded. I support Tim. Hence. Do Not Archive John From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:49 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Actually, this allows me to ask a question that is probably answerable if I took the time to go look it up on the Matronics rules page. If Do Not Archive is in a post, anywhere in a post, does that post then not get archived? If so, then I agree with Dan, otherwise, I agree with Tim. This is not quite like Tevya, where they are both right but can't both be right, but it's close. Now, pardon me, I must go out to the Barn and fix my Wagon. dO nOt ArchiVE From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:35 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Chris' answer will be interesting to archive when he gives it, but what's the point of archiving a message that says, "Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank." TDT 40025




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