RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 02/22/06


Total Messages Posted: 24



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:44 AM - Re: Riveting (Jesse Saint)
     2. 07:30 AM - Aux fuel tank (Chris Hukill)
     3. 08:07 AM - Re: Aux fuel tank (Indran Chelvanayagam)
     4. 08:34 AM - Re: Installing aux fuel tank  (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
     5. 08:44 AM - Re: Installing aux fuel tank  (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
     6. 01:47 PM - power out glideslope to nearest airport. (John Gonzalez)
     7. 02:02 PM - Re: power out glideslope to nearest airport. (James Hein)
     8. 02:35 PM - Re: power out glideslope to nearest airport. (John Dunne)
     9. 02:50 PM - Re: power out glideslope to nearest airport. (John Hasbrouck)
    10. 03:00 PM - Riveting Fuse Side Skins (McGANN, Ron)
    11. 03:23 PM - Re: Aux fuel tank  (William)
    12. 03:52 PM - Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! (Jeff Dalton)
    13. 04:01 PM - Re: Aux fuel tank (Dave)
    14. 04:08 PM - AMSAFE inertial belts(4 point) for RV10 (David McNeill)
    15. 04:14 PM - Re: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! (Paul Walter)
    16. 05:15 PM - Re: power out glideslope to nearest airport. (LIKE2LOOP@aol.com)
    17. 05:15 PM - Re: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! (LIKE2LOOP@aol.com)
    18. 06:13 PM - Re: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! (Jeff Dalton)
    19. 06:16 PM - EAA Tech Counselor visit (Jeff Dalton)
    20. 07:02 PM - Re: EAA Tech Counselor visit (Marcus Cooper)
    21. 08:17 PM - Re: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! (Paul Walter)
    22. 08:41 PM - Re: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! (Jeff Dalton)
    23. 09:06 PM - A prophesy mis read, maybe (John Gonzalez)
    24. 10:12 PM - F6122-1 (John Dunne)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:44:56 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Riveting
    We use clear tape (scotch tape, if nothing else is available) all the time, either when back riveting or on the rivet sets. It works great. Masking tape does not do as well on the sets from our experience, and it obviously won't work well for holding the rivets in the hole unless you are back riveting on the plate because you can't see the rivet. We use Thinner to get the residue off. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org Fax: 815-377-3694 I am in Ecuador until May, 2006. If you have questions regarding I-TEC, please call the office at 352-465-4545. If you would like to talk to me, please call me at 352-505-1899. This number won't always be on, but it has voicemail that will get to me in Ecuador. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Grimstad Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:33 PM Subject: RV10-List: Riveting I have found great results using 2" packaging tape to cover and protect skins while riveting. I started with a tip from Randy Debauw using the packaging tape to cover the head of the swivel headed rivet set. Then I decided to try packaging tape on the skin for holding and (setting protection), works great. Anyone doing this? I use SOLVE cleaner by SEM to wipe the skins when complete. Paul Grimstad RV10 #450 closing elevators


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    Time: 07:30:38 AM PST US
    From: "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net>
    Subject: Aux fuel tank
    I'm having an approx 18 gal aluminum tank welded up that will go behind the back seat, with the forward side at the angle of the seat backs to nest right behind the seats. The tank is 14 in. high, 15 in. at the bottom,8 1/2 in. at the top, and 30 in long. It will be easily removable, and will fit thru the baggage door. The tank is pumped thru a Facet, anti siphon pump located just above the tank into a T at the feed line from the left tank. I'll feed off the left tank until there is room to pump aux fuel back into the left tank. For me, this feed method is preferable to a three position valve that must be selected thru "aux" every time you switch tanks. I have also added two extra ribs in the baggage floor to allow for the weight, and provide aft anchor points for the hold down straps. The pilot shall have to bear the responsibility of an aft cg consideration that will move forward during fuel transfer, but the plan is to use the tank for long 2 pax flights, with lots of bags in the rear seat footwell area, as we travel from our home on Vancouver Island to Alaska. The potential for a crash with fuel in the cabin is a trade-off for the safety of extra gas over inhospitable terrain, in iffy weather, with few alternates. I will post pictures and plans after I've completed the install. Chris Hukill Slowing working QB fuselage


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    Time: 08:07:07 AM PST US
    From: "Indran Chelvanayagam" <ichelva@netspace.net.au>
    Subject: Aux fuel tank
    Great idea - was thinking of something similar myself, but haven't yet put a plan into action. Would be grateful for photos/plans once you're done Indran Chelvanayagam 40228 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2006 11:44 PM Subject: RV10-List: Aux fuel tank I'm having an approx 18 gal aluminum tank welded up that will go behind the back seat, with the forward side at the angle of the seat backs to nest right behind the seats. The tank is 14 in. high, 15 in. at the bottom,8 1/2 in. at the top, and 30 in long. It will be easily removable, and will fit thru the baggage door. The tank is pumped thru a Facet, anti siphon pump located just above the tank into a T at the feed line from the left tank. I'll feed off the left tank until there is room to pump aux fuel back into the left tank. For me, this feed method is preferable to a three position valve that must be selected thru "aux" every time you switch tanks. I have also added two extra ribs in the baggage floor to allow for the weight, and provide aft anchor points for the hold down straps. The pilot shall have to bear the responsibility of an aft cg consideration that will move forward during fuel transfer, but the plan is to use the tank for long 2 pax flights, with lots of bags in the rear seat footwell area, as we travel from our home on Vancouver Island to Alaska. The potential for a crash with fuel in the cabin is a trade-off for the safety of extra gas over inhospitable terrain, in iffy weather, with few alternates. I will post pictures and plans after I've completed the install. Chris Hukill Slowing working QB fuselage


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    Time: 08:34:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Installing aux fuel tank
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    Before this goes off the deep end, it is not about support. I happen to agree with Tim, the question does not need to be there, but if do not archive appears anywhere in the email stream then the message does not get in there, and my point was that it might be worth an extra 11 thousand 1's and 0's to be stored if the responder clicks on the wrong message and does not get in there. But by posting do not archive after wards and not in the original message then not only are we wasting the storage space of the original message, but also valuable bandwidth at each of the 1000's of ISP's that we all belong to, to just see a message that says do not archive. There is a monthly reminder that is sent out to each of us with the rules and guidelines, and too waste additional bandwidth sending an email saying do not archive after the archive has already taken place is pointless. So with that being said if we all looked at the rules, then this would be a non issue, In this particular case I do believe that the question itself should not be in the archive, but the answer needs to be, and that is all I was referring too. Dan Do not archive Do not archive because it is just the ramblings of a builder in withdrawal during the work day _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank The idea of an archive is of great value, only if the readers use it First. We are getting lots of repeat questions (with answers waiting quietly in the Archive) recently from individuals who were not privy back a year ago. If they don't look for it the archive first, value is NOT. Much of what is said does not need to be filed into perpetuity. Some people are lazy, others just want it permanently recorded. I support Tim. Hence. Do Not Archive John _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:49 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Actually, this allows me to ask a question that is probably answerable if I took the time to go look it up on the Matronics rules page. If Do Not Archive is in a post, anywhere in a post, does that post then not get archived? If so, then I agree with Dan, otherwise, I agree with Tim. This is not quite like Tevya, where they are both right but can't both be right, but it's close. Now, pardon me, I must go out to the Barn and fix my Wagon. dO nOt ArchiVE _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Chris' answer will be interesting to archive when he gives it, but what's the point of archiving a message that says, "Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank." TDT 40025


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    Time: 08:44:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Installing aux fuel tank
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Or as Yoda would say, "Archive do not!" : ) TDT 40025 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Before this goes off the deep end, it is not about support. I happen to agree with Tim, the question does not need to be there, but if do not archive appears anywhere in the email stream then the message does not get in there, and my point was that it might be worth an extra 11 thousand 1's and 0's to be stored if the responder clicks on the wrong message and does not get in there. But by posting do not archive after wards and not in the original message then not only are we wasting the storage space of the original message, but also valuable bandwidth at each of the 1000's of ISP's that we all belong to, to just see a message that says do not archive. There is a monthly reminder that is sent out to each of us with the rules and guidelines, and too waste additional bandwidth sending an email saying do not archive after the archive has already taken place is pointless. So with that being said if we all looked at the rules, then this would be a non issue, In this particular case I do believe that the question itself should not be in the archive, but the answer needs to be, and that is all I was referring too. Dan Do not archive Do not archive because it is just the ramblings of a builder in withdrawal during the work day ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank The idea of an archive is of great value, only if the readers use it First. We are getting lots of repeat questions (with answers waiting quietly in the Archive) recently from individuals who were not privy back a year ago. If they don't look for it the archive first, value is NOT. Much of what is said does not need to be filed into perpetuity. Some people are lazy, others just want it permanently recorded. I support Tim. Hence. Do Not Archive John ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 5:49 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Actually, this allows me to ask a question that is probably answerable if I took the time to go look it up on the Matronics rules page. If Do Not Archive is in a post, anywhere in a post, does that post then not get archived? If so, then I agree with Dan, otherwise, I agree with Tim. This is not quite like Tevya, where they are both right but can't both be right, but it's close. Now, pardon me, I must go out to the Barn and fix my Wagon. dO nOt ArchiVE ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:35 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Installing aux fuel tank Chris' answer will be interesting to archive when he gives it, but what's the point of archiving a message that says, "Chris can you tell us about the fuel tank." TDT 40025


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    Time: 01:47:20 PM PST US
    From: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: power out glideslope to nearest airport.
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Being out of the power seen for some time, I am wondering how common it is to have a fight computer instrument that can calculate your current position,altitude, airspeed, wind direction/speed and distance to nearest landing spot. Obviously calibrated to your aircrafts fpm sink rate in calm air with the power out and propeller in flat pitch. Is this something that is common in most units or not...if anyone knows of some units with this capability, I would like to do some research. DNA Thanks, JG. 409


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    Time: 02:02:51 PM PST US
    From: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
    Subject: Re: power out glideslope to nearest airport.
    --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net> John, I have had instruments that fought back (Spellcheck, table 2!) at times! Seriously though, I carry a Garmin GPS296 with me (I don't own, I rent... :( ) and it does what you say fairly well. If there's an issue (and haven't been keeping track of my own position like a good little boy) I just hit "Direct To", then "Nearest" and a list of the nearest airports appears.. pick one and hit "Enter" and it guides you to it and provides any frequencies you might need. (You enter your aircraft info in the setup page of the unit) I bought it as a gift for myself a few months after passing my private certification. Updates aren't cheap, but I only update it every 6 months (offset 3 months from the sectional updates), and of course it has nifty terrain and obstacle clearance information... The only thing I hate about it are all the "You will die if you use this unit!" warning screens... There are FOUR of them, and you have to page through each screen to get rid of them. And there's this little issue of Automotive mode and the compass (2 small column mode)... It has a nasty habit of resetting the unit if you are on that page for more than 15 minutes... Then you get to go through the warning screens again! (Please, GARMIN, I'll sign my life away, just get rid of those warning screens!!!!!!) Okay, a bit off the deep end.... -Jim do not archive John Gonzalez wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> > > Being out of the power seen for some time, I am wondering how common > it is to have a fight computer instrument that can calculate your > current position,altitude, airspeed, wind direction/speed and distance > to nearest landing spot. Obviously calibrated to your aircrafts fpm > sink rate in calm air with the power out and propeller in flat pitch. > > Is this something that is common in most units or not...if anyone > knows of some units with this capability, I would like to do some > research. > > DNA > > Thanks, > > JG. 409 > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > >


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    Time: 02:35:45 PM PST US
    From: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au>
    Subject: power out glideslope to nearest airport.
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au> Hi John, On the cheaper side of the stuff available, have a look at the "Anywhere Map" program www.controlvision.com it has a simple scaled circle or "safety cone" depicting your possible glide range depending upon certain parameters entered. I had this loaded on an ipaq and it was partly re-assuring at night as a back-up and helped to make decisions and modify your intended route and altitude selection based on safety zone and landing area options. I'm sure there are better and more sophisticated capabilities out there but this was a good option for the budget conscious. John #40315 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2006 7:44 AM Subject: RV10-List: power out glideslope to nearest airport. --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Being out of the power seen for some time, I am wondering how common it is to have a fight computer instrument that can calculate your current position,altitude, airspeed, wind direction/speed and distance to nearest landing spot. Obviously calibrated to your aircrafts fpm sink rate in calm air with the power out and propeller in flat pitch. Is this something that is common in most units or not...if anyone knows of some units with this capability, I would like to do some research. DNA Thanks, JG. 409


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    Time: 02:50:04 PM PST US
    From: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: power out glideslope to nearest airport.
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com> John, The Anywhere Map software had/has a function very similar to what you mention. If I remember correctly it would project a ring around your position showing how far you could glide given present altitude and performance parameters of the aircraft. This runs on an palm size computer. I haven't played with one for a few years so anyone with more current info please feel free to add your $.02. I think Sportys has a complete package in their catalog, price somewhere north of a grand. John Hasbrouck


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    Time: 03:00:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Riveting Fuse Side Skins
    From: "McGANN, Ron" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com>
    G'day all, I'm about to start riveting the fuse side skins. Has anyone had any success backriveting these skins? If so, what is the trick for preventing damage to the ribs/floor panels while climbing around inside? If your are near this point, have a look at Rick Sked's fuse stand in Tim Olsons page under fuselage tips. Looks neat, easy to build and versatile. I had not noticed it before. I guess the only down side is the height is fixed. thanks in advance, Ron #187 fuse


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    Time: 03:23:15 PM PST US
    From: "William" <wcurtis@core.com>
    Subject: RE: Aux fuel tank
    >I'm having an approx 18 gal aluminum tank welded up that will go behind the back >seat, with the forward side at the angle of the seat backs to nest right behind >the seats. Im planning something similar but it will be a MAIN tank in the baggage area. It will be fed via pumps from the wing tanks. It will only have an 8 gallons (48 lbs) capacity but it will be easily replaceable with larger capacity for those really long ocean spanning trips I may increase this standard tank to a full 1 hour at 75% power reserve, so my IFR range would be a full 60 gallons. Initially I was going to use the Andair valve but will use ALL three ports of the Weatherhead for a LEFT-MAIN-RIGHT setting. When all is functioning correctly, selector will remain on MAIN. LEFT or RIGHT would only be used in case of an electrical or pump failure. Could also use the pumps as aileron trim. See details here: http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/9XOther/RV10FuelPlumb.pdf William Curtis http://nerv10.com/


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    Time: 03:52:01 PM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dalton" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts!
    I ordered and just received the collection of items Dave Czachorowski is making for the -10 tail kit. It started with the trim cable anchor - now there is a set of items. Boy - these parts are nice. I just installed the HS Brackets he fabricated and they're very well done. Low-res photos attached Jeff HS Stabilizer


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    Time: 04:01:46 PM PST US
    From: "Dave" <redflyer@comcast.net>
    Subject: Aux fuel tank
    Chris, How do you fill the tank? Dave -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:44 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Aux fuel tank I'm having an approx 18 gal aluminum tank welded up that will go behind the back seat, with the forward side at the angle of the seat backs to nest right behind the seats. The tank is 14 in. high, 15 in. at the bottom,8 1/2 in. at the top, and 30 in long. It will be easily removable, and will fit thru the baggage door. The tank is pumped thru a Facet, anti siphon pump located just above the tank into a T at the feed line from the left tank. I'll feed off the left tank until there is room to pump aux fuel back into the left tank. For me, this feed method is preferable to a three position valve that must be selected thru "aux" every time you switch tanks. I have also added two extra ribs in the baggage floor to allow for the weight, and provide aft anchor points for the hold down straps. The pilot shall have to bear the responsibility of an aft cg consideration that will move forward during fuel transfer, but the plan is to use the tank for long 2 pax flights, with lots of bags in the rear seat footwell area, as we travel from our home on Vancouver Island to Alaska. The potential for a crash with fuel in the cabin is a trade-off for the safety of extra gas over inhospitable terrain, in iffy weather, with few alternates. I will post pictures and plans after I've completed the install. Chris Hukill Slowing working QB fuselage


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    Time: 04:08:18 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: AMSAFE inertial belts(4 point) for RV10
    AMSAFE will begin manufacturing/shipping four point harnesses for the RV10 with inertial shoulder straps in March. Information on the necessary lid modifications, colors, engineering drawings, and prices are available on www.inertialbelts.com. The procedures deal with a lid that has not been permanently installed. If you lid is already installed please contact me for a means make the mod with the lid on the airframe.


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    Time: 04:14:38 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Walter" <pdwalter@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: Re: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great
    Parts! Hi Jeff, What was the cost to purchase the full collection of tail kit parts mentioned ?. Paul Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Dalton To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: RV10-List: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! I ordered and just received the collection of items Dave Czachorowski is making for the -10 tail kit. It started with the trim cable anchor - now there is a set of items. Boy - these parts are nice. I just installed the HS Brackets he fabricated and they're very well done. Low-res photos attached Jeff HS Stabilizer


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    Time: 05:15:50 PM PST US
    From: LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
    Subject: Re: power out glideslope to nearest airport.
    In a message dated 2/22/06 5:51:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com writes: The Anywhere Map software had/has a function very similar to what you mention you can check out their site at _www.anywheremaps.com_ (http://www.anywheremaps.com) Don't buy any of this software too early, it all keeps changing. They are utilizing the Motion companies tablet PC's. Destination Direct uses the same tablet, but DD is currently offline, as the company was just bought out!!! ( i use this software for planning, before all the free versions came out.) They also offered a GPS sensor... and many other bells and whistles if you chose to take your laptop or tablet flying. You can buy a tablet and install many software programs.... the weak point is the lack of integration, as in the moving map will show you airport frequencies, but are not designed to send them into the COM standby memory like a Garmin 430+ does. But you can own one for FAR less then the integrated systems, and have a computer too. Many stand alone systems will allow you to buy the XM satalite USB receiver and other peripheries... I recently saw a 2 seat experimental with a laptop in the luggage area, hard wired for power, with the lid closed , USB GPS antenna and an auxiliary touch screen moving map display mounted in the front.... with weather, etc.. total cost, under $2000. and all the power of a complete computer.... If the lap top dies, throw it out a new one can be had cheap now. Steve DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 05:15:50 PM PST US
    From: LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great
    Parts! In a message dated 2/22/06 6:56:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jdalton77@comcast.net writes: just received the collection of items Dave Czachorowski is making for the -10 tail kit. It started with the trim cable anchor - now there is a set of items. Boy - these parts are nice I just got mine too, and I completely agree!!! This is a no brainer decision to buy the parts.... My attach bracket was nice, but not nearly as perfect. Steve DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 06:13:42 PM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dalton" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great
    Parts! Everything in the photo was $76 including shipping. Well worth it given the quality. I understand he has more parts on the way too. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Walter To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:13 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! Hi Jeff, What was the cost to purchase the full collection of tail kit parts mentioned ?. Paul Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Dalton To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: RV10-List: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! I ordered and just received the collection of items Dave Czachorowski is making for the -10 tail kit. It started with the trim cable anchor - now there is a set of items. Boy - these parts are nice. I just installed the HS Brackets he fabricated and they're very well done. Low-res photos attached Jeff HS Stabilizer


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    Time: 06:16:24 PM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dalton" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: EAA Tech Counselor visit
    I just had my first EAA Tech counselor visit. There's a guy in our local EAA chapter that helps a lot of people out in the area - he really seemed to know his stuff. Question for the group - what kinds of experiences did you all have with tech counselors and how would you recommend best working with them to get the most out of it?


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    Time: 07:02:05 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: EAA Tech Counselor visit
    Jeff, Having been a Tech counselor, I'll offer some thoughts. First, it sounds like you have a strong player, but realize the only requirement to become a Tech Counselor is to have built an airplane and send in the paperwork so there are no guarantees about the skill of who you are getting. Second, time is a valuable commodity so I'd suggest making the most out of his/her time and not expect more than they are willing to give. Having said that, I suspect most counselors enjoy looking at other projects and the time spent doing so or they shouldn't have signed up to be one. As for how to utilize them, I'd suggest steering them toward any areas you have concerns over. Then just cut them loose to wander about the project primarily as a second set of eyes to catch things you are too familiar with to notice are wrong. They also tend to have experience with other types of projects and can offer unique insight to particular problems or catch something that doesn't quite make sense. I have never heard of a bad experience with a Tech Counselor so I recommend you continue the visits if possible. I'd take lots of notes and then decide what items need to be tweaked as it's your machine and nothing he says is mandatory. Marcus 40286 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Dalton Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:15 PM Subject: RV10-List: EAA Tech Counselor visit I just had my first EAA Tech counselor visit. There's a guy in our local EAA chapter that helps a lot of people out in the area - he really seemed to know his stuff. Question for the group - what kinds of experiences did you all have with tech counselors and how would you recommend best working with them to get the most out of it?


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    Time: 08:17:07 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Walter" <pdwalter@bigpond.net.au>
    Subject: Re: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great
    Parts! Does Dave have a web site ?. Paul Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Dalton To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! Everything in the photo was $76 including shipping. Well worth it given the quality. I understand he has more parts on the way too. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Walter To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:13 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! Hi Jeff, What was the cost to purchase the full collection of tail kit parts mentioned ?. Paul Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Dalton To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: RV10-List: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! I ordered and just received the collection of items Dave Czachorowski is making for the -10 tail kit. It started with the trim cable anchor - now there is a set of items. Boy - these parts are nice. I just installed the HS Brackets he fabricated and they're very well done. Low-res photos attached Jeff HS Stabilizer


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    Time: 08:41:44 PM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dalton" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great
    Parts! It's www.rivethead-aero.com. I don't think these parts are on the site yet though. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Walter To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 11:13 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! Does Dave have a web site ?. Paul Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Dalton To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! Everything in the photo was $76 including shipping. Well worth it given the quality. I understand he has more parts on the way too. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Walter To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 7:13 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! Hi Jeff, What was the cost to purchase the full collection of tail kit parts mentioned ?. Paul Walter ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Dalton To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: RV10-List: Just received Dave's Tail Kit for the Tail Kit - Great Parts! I ordered and just received the collection of items Dave Czachorowski is making for the -10 tail kit. It started with the trim cable anchor - now there is a set of items. Boy - these parts are nice. I just installed the HS Brackets he fabricated and they're very well done. Low-res photos attached Jeff HS Stabilizer


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    Time: 09:06:06 PM PST US
    From: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: A prophesy mis read, maybe
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Thanks for all the suggestions on the glide slope issue. Also, I absolutely loved the Yoda quote. Anyone who recites Star Wars dialog is a okay by me!!!! Unfortunately, we, like the Jedi, are a dying breed. Did Obi Wan ever tell you what happened to you father...?No Luke, I am your father. Building break...Time to break out the Trilogy again, oh and the most recent one I, IV, V and VI. DNA


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    Time: 10:12:42 PM PST US
    From: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au>
    Subject: F6122-1
    Does anybody know what bag or kit the F6122-1 Tri-Gear Brake bracket appears in? I can't seem to even find it on the parts list. Reference firewall section 27 page 27-1 John #40315 fuse Do not archive




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