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1. 05:36 AM - Re: fuel sender units (Richard Reynolds)
2. 05:36 AM - Re: Flightline Firewall Insullation - Sealing the edges (Tim Olson)
3. 06:31 AM - Re: Auto Racing seats - An Alternative? (Mike Kraus)
4. 07:04 AM - Re: Auto Racing seats - An Alternative? (Evan and Megan Johnson)
5. 09:08 AM - Re: Auto Racing seats - An Alternative? (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
6. 09:37 AM - Re: Auto Racing seats - An Alternative? (Deems Davis)
7. 10:40 AM - fuel selector Andair (David McNeill)
8. 10:40 AM - FWF for Cont. IO-360 (John Hasbrouck)
9. 12:55 PM - Re: fuel sender units (rob kermanj)
10. 03:36 PM - Mid Fuse Rib Dimples (Albert Gardner)
11. 06:33 PM - Re: Mid Fuse Rib Dimples (Deems Davis)
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| Subject: | Re: fuel sender units |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Richard Reynolds <rvreynolds@macs.net>
Larry,
The text on your web page is light brown on a dark brow background.
It is not readable. Is me or my mac?
Richard Reynolds
On Mar 4, 2006, at 11:44 PM, Larry Rosen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
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> Jay,
> Getting the fuel level floats to there full travel in the
> quickbuild wings is a tedious task. I have a write up on my web
> page that explains how I installed them. You can find it here
> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/Log/Wings/FuelLevel/index.html>
>
> Larry Rosen
> http://lrosen.nerv10.com
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> Jay Rowe wrote:
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>> Having problems installing the fuel sender units in the QB wings.
>> The folks who built the wing didn't leave enough room between the
>> fuel vent line and the wing stiffner to allow the float to go
>> easily all the way up to the skin. In other words there is no
>> clearance on either side. In addition it is hard, at least for
>> me, to see inside very well even with using a mirror thru the
>> finger strainer hole and a lite thru the drain hole. Could I cut
>> down the length of the float by 1/4 to 1/2 inch (which would
>> provide clearance) and still have it function properly? Or any
>> other advice? Thank
>> Jay Rowe 40301
>>
>
>
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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| Subject: | Re: Flightline Firewall Insullation - Sealing the edges |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
You got my reply that I didn't use anything. That's around the edges
that I'm talking about. When I cut the material, it would actually fit
in it's place without anything holding it, and I bet I could fly for
hours without it falling. That's not safe though, so I used 26B
red Hi-Temp permatex to glue it in place. I just squirted some squiggly
lines behind each panel and made an outline an inch or two from the
edge of it and then stuck the insulation panel in place. It holds
just fine. The red permatex seems to dry nice and quick too.
No proseal for me in this application....stick with the simple stuff.
I really don't see a need to seal the edges, but I suppose some builders
may not have that opinion. If so, I'd just use black/grey permatex.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
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> Larry,
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> I am using the orange high temp permatex. I think Tim used Proseal on his but
I'm not positive, he may chime in after me.
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
> Finishing kit
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| Subject: | Auto Racing seats - An Alternative? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
I seem to remember a post saying Van's requires the purchase of his
seats (i.e.: if you buy the finish kit, you can't remove the seats from
the order). Due to the front seats sitting right over the spar, the
seats are designed to carry a high vertical g load. You may want to
talk with Van's before you do too much research.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 9:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Auto Racing seats - An Alternative?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Has anyone looked into using auto racing seats instead of what van's
provides? These are pics from an Aus RV6 installation. I'm not sure how
they compare weight wise, but they are available in a number of colors
and options (lumbar spts, etc). From a brief google search it appears
you could get 4 of these already upholstered, for less than what van's
charges for their seats & foam sets and a 3rd party upholstery job.
your thoughts?
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Auto Racing seats - An Alternative? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
I asked about this too because the Oregon Aero seats are so expensive. The
airplane was apparently designed specifically with those seats in mind for
safety reasons and using any other seats is NOT an option. The reasoning is
that you are sitting directly on top of the wing spar and any hard landing
forces get transferred straight up your back. I am pretty sure if you ask
them to hold the front seats from the finish kit order you will be told
no......you cant have the finish kit without them. No Recarro's for you!
Cheers.
Evan Johnson
www.evansaviationproducts.com
(530)247-0375
(530)351-1776 cell
----- Original Message -----
From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Auto Racing seats - An Alternative?
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
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> I did some preliminary investigation ; I can't remember which seats I
> analyzed but your biggest problem is reengineering the mounts. For example
> using other seats in the rear would require mounting them on top of the
> rear seat bottoms in order to preserve the structure there. likewise in
the
> front a complete redesign of the mount. In my opinion would not be an
easy
> swap and the time , money and analysis would not be cost effective. Also
> would probably be heavier than the Van design.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 7:00 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Auto Racing seats - An Alternative?
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> > Has anyone looked into using auto racing seats instead of what van's
> > provides? These are pics from an Aus RV6 installation. I'm not sure how
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| Subject: | Auto Racing seats - An Alternative? |
I'll tell you, though, these Oregeon Aero seats are sweet! I think I should order
an extra one and convert it into a desk chair . . .
TDT
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Evan and Megan Johnson
Sent: Sun 3/5/2006 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Auto Racing seats - An Alternative?
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
I asked about this too because the Oregon Aero seats are so expensive. The
airplane was apparently designed specifically with those seats in mind for
safety reasons and using any other seats is NOT an option. The reasoning is
that you are sitting directly on top of the wing spar and any hard landing
forces get transferred straight up your back. I am pretty sure if you ask
them to hold the front seats from the finish kit order you will be told
no......you cant have the finish kit without them. No Recarro's for you!
Cheers.
Evan Johnson
www.evansaviationproducts.com
(530)247-0375
(530)351-1776 cell
----- Original Message -----
From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Auto Racing seats - An Alternative?
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
>
> I did some preliminary investigation ; I can't remember which seats I
> analyzed but your biggest problem is reengineering the mounts. For example
> using other seats in the rear would require mounting them on top of the
> rear seat bottoms in order to preserve the structure there. likewise in
the
> front a complete redesign of the mount. In my opinion would not be an
easy
> swap and the time , money and analysis would not be cost effective. Also
> would probably be heavier than the Van design.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 7:00 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Auto Racing seats - An Alternative?
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> > --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
> >
> > Has anyone looked into using auto racing seats instead of what van's
> > provides? These are pics from an Aus RV6 installation. I'm not sure how
> > they compare weight wise, but they are available in a number of colors
and
> > options (lumbar spts, etc). From a brief google search it appears you
> > could get 4 of these already upholstered, for less than what van's
charges
> > for their seats & foam sets and a 3rd party upholstery job.
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> > your thoughts?
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| Subject: | Re: Auto Racing seats - An Alternative? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Aw shucks! I had these visions of dashing across the finish line @ Reno
snuggled in my Recarro's, I guess that will have to wait for the next
project - ..... an F1 Rocket (but don't tell my wife, she thinks the
madness will end with the RV10!)
Do Not Archive
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | fuel selector Andair |
Have included pictures what we have done to install Andair valve as supplied
by Vans and also solve the removal problem of the forward tunnel cover.
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| Subject: | FWF for Cont. IO-360 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
Any info on development of a FWF kit for the -10? I know Van's isn't
interested but wondered of the someone else was working on one.
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| Subject: | Re: fuel sender units |
--> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
Highlight the text and you can see it. I had the same problem.
do not archive.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Mar 5, 2006, at 8:30 AM, Richard Reynolds wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Richard Reynolds
> <rvreynolds@macs.net>
>
> Larry,
>
> The text on your web page is light brown on a dark brow background.
> It is not readable. Is me or my mac?
>
> Richard Reynolds
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2006, at 11:44 PM, Larry Rosen wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>>
>> Jay,
>> Getting the fuel level floats to there full travel in the
>> quickbuild wings is a tedious task. I have a write up on my web
>> page that explains how I installed them. You can find it here
>> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/Log/Wings/FuelLevel/index.html>
>>
>> Larry Rosen
>> http://lrosen.nerv10.com
>>
>> Jay Rowe wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Having problems installing the fuel sender units in the QB
>>> wings. The folks who built the wing didn't leave enough room
>>> between the fuel vent line and the wing stiffner to allow the
>>> float to go easily all the way up to the skin. In other words
>>> there is no clearance on either side. In addition it is hard, at
>>> least for me, to see inside very well even with using a mirror
>>> thru the finger strainer hole and a lite thru the drain hole.
>>> Could I cut down the length of the float by 1/4 to 1/2 inch
>>> (which would provide clearance) and still have it function
>>> properly? Or any other advice? Thank
>>> Jay Rowe 40301
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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| Subject: | Mid Fuse Rib Dimples |
I'm about to rivet the Mid Fuse Ribs (Section 26) and I'm a little confused
on what to dimple/CSK, or leave alone. Attached pic indicates what I think
is proper. Can anyone confirm or correct?
Thanks.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
40-442
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| Subject: | Re: Mid Fuse Rib Dimples |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Al, I just finished Sec 26 and benefitted from the dialogue on this
section that took place a couple of weeks ago. Here's what I've done,
.... so far.
F1004D,F1015B,F1005C - nothing so far, I'll wait til the side skins get
attached, hoping it will be more obvious/self apparent at the time.
F1015A - I dimpled all of the holes that match with the side skins
outlined in Sec 29-17 (these were #40 only) Sec 29-15 say's don't dimple
the #30's
F1018 - Ditto
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
Albert Gardner wrote:
>I'm about to rivet the Mid Fuse Ribs (Section 26) and I'm a little confused
>on what to dimple/CSK, or leave alone. Attached pic indicates what I think
>is proper. Can anyone confirm or correct?
>Thanks.
>Albert Gardner
>Yuma, AZ
>40-442
>
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