Today's Message Index:
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1. 05:20 AM - Re: First Flight (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 05:24 AM - Re: Paint Scheme (Wayne Edgerton)
3. 06:37 AM - Re: First Flight (Evan and Megan Johnson)
4. 07:35 AM - Re: First Flight (Randy DeBauw)
5. 08:25 AM - Re: First Flight (John N. Strain II)
6. 08:27 AM - Re: First Flight (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
7. 08:27 AM - Re: First Flight (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 09:20 AM - typo on plans 27-2 (seanblair@adelphia.net)
9. 11:42 AM - Mattituck (Jesse Saint)
10. 12:08 PM - Re: Mattituck (DOUGPFLYRV@AOL.COM)
11. 01:41 PM - Coax reqts and antenna placement (McGANN, Ron)
12. 02:14 PM - Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement (Tim Olson)
13. 02:25 PM - Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root (McGANN, Ron)
14. 02:40 PM - Re: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wi ng root (Belue, Kevin)
15. 03:24 PM - Re: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wi ng root (Tim Olson)
16. 03:35 PM - Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement (ddddsp1@juno.com)
17. 03:58 PM - Re: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root (Mike Kraus)
18. 04:01 PM - Re: Mattituck (William)
19. 06:21 PM - Re: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root (linn Walters)
20. 07:32 PM - Re: Elevator Trailing Edge (Robert G. Wright)
21. 07:42 PM - epoxy and gelcoat (Robert G. Wright)
22. 07:57 PM - Re: epoxy and gelcoat (Dan Masys)
23. 08:23 PM - Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement (John Lenhardt)
24. 08:50 PM - Re: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root (McGANN, Ron)
25. 09:14 PM - Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement (McGANN, Ron)
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Hello Debbie & Jim,
Congratulations on your first flight. I'm sure that has to be a great feeling after
all those long hours of work. My number is 40336, so hopefully I'm not too
far behind you. I building in Justin, TX at Prop Wash. Fly in some time and
let me take a look at it and maybe talk you into a ride :>}
Again congratulations
Wayne Edgerton 40336
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| Subject: | Re: Paint Scheme |
George Orndorff recently completed his plane and painted it in an off white type
color and it really looks great.Below is his web address to see what it looks
like. If you thought you liked that type of color call George and he can tell
you what color it was. He told me but I forgot the name.
http://www.fly-gbi.com/main.htm
Wayne Edgerton 40336
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
I like the smooth and quiet part.....which engine/prop combo are you using? Mufflers?
Cheers..
Evan Johnson
www.evansaviationproducts.com
(530)247-0375
(530)351-1776 cell
----- Original Message -----
From: Debbie Dewey
To: RV10-List@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:18 PM
Subject: RV10-List: First Flight
N533JD (RV-10 #40330) flew today!!! Signed off in the morning and in the air
in the afternoon. What a great flying airplane, very smooth and quiet. Everything
worked perfect. Will enjoy flying off these hours.
Debbie Dewey / Jim Erskine
Granbury, Texas
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Congratulation from N610RV. It is nice to here of the first flight.
Good work you two. Randy
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Dewey
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: RV10-List: First Flight
N533JD (RV-10 #40330) flew today!!! Signed off in the morning and in
the air in the afternoon. What a great flying airplane, very smooth and
quiet. Everything worked perfect. Will enjoy flying off these hours.
Debbie Dewey / Jim Erskine
Granbury, Texas
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Jim,
Glad to see you completed and flying. Hope you'll come by and see us at Sun-N-Fun.
Booth space #N-38 outdoors.
John and Harold
Flightline AC Inc.
541-330-5466
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It is nice to here of the first flight. Good work you two. Randy
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Dewey
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:19 PM
Subject: RV10-List: First Flight
N533JD (RV-10 #40330) flew today!!! Signed off in the morning and in the
air in the afternoon. What a great flying airplane, very smooth and quiet. Everything
worked perfect. Will enjoy flying off these hours.
Debbie Dewey / Jim Erskine
Granbury, Texas
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I don't know how much Debbie follows the list so I'll jump in and try and answer
this for her. They are using a IO-540, I forgot from who, with a Vetterman
exhaust and the Aero Composite 3 blade prop. I'm anxious to see the performance
numbers on this ship as I have been considering that prop. Will be good to
see if it lives up to the cruise claims.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
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Michael Sausen - Experimental Aircraft Builder's Log <http://www.mykitlog.com/msausen>
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Evan and Megan Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flight
I like the smooth and quiet part.....which engine/prop combo are you using? Mufflers?
Cheers..
Evan Johnson
www.evansaviationproducts.com
(530)247-0375
(530)351-1776 cell
----- Original Message -----
From: Debbie Dewey <mailto:n4539p@charter.net>
To: RV10-List@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:18 PM
Subject: RV10-List: First Flight
N533JD (RV-10 #40330) flew today!!! Signed off in the morning and in the air
in the afternoon. What a great flying airplane, very smooth and quiet. Everything
worked perfect. Will enjoy flying off these hours.
Debbie Dewey / Jim Erskine
Granbury, Texas
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Congrats Debbie! You will have to taxi it over to the hanger for the chapter meeting
on Sat so we can all see it. Now tell Jim to get to work on his -10.
:-D See you guys Sat.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Dewey
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 8:19 PM
Subject: RV10-List: First Flight
N533JD (RV-10 #40330) flew today!!! Signed off in the morning and in the air
in the afternoon. What a great flying airplane, very smooth and quiet. Everything
worked perfect. Will enjoy flying off these hours.
Debbie Dewey / Jim Erskine
Granbury, Texas
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| Subject: | typo on plans 27-2 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: seanblair@adelphia.net
I noticed a discepency in the plans on 27-2. The F-1001J-L and R Longeron Gussets
call out for 470 rivets on the left and 426 rivets on the right. Van's confirms
they both should be 470's. Doesn't really matter either way, but could
save a little work.
Sean B.
#40225
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Does anybody know of a reason not to buy the new experimental Lycoming from
Mattituck. The price of $34,150 seems to be pretty good for a completely
new engine.
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Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
<mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> jesse@itecusa.org
<http://www.itecusa.org> www.itecusa.org
I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of
May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check
from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at
352-465-4545.
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That is the engine I ordered after looking at several options. I feel that
is the best bang for the buck.
Doug Preston
#40372
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| Subject: | Coax reqts and antenna placement |
G'day all,
I'm about to order coax for the antennas. Any recommendations on a convenient
qty? RG400 or RG58 or other? Config will be:
Archer navs in each wingtip
bent whip on bottom
stright whip on top behind lid
XPDR on bottom fwd fuse
Any additional considerations on antenna placement? I'm not familiar with the
exhaust configuration - are there any antenna locs to NOT use to avoid exhaust
outflow? Any shadowing issues with gear legs etc ?
thanks in advance,
Ron
#187 fuse
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| Subject: | Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I'm sure others may disagree that you'd need any more than
cheap stuff, but I'm all for the RG400. It's double
shielded, slick teflon coated, and low loss. Probably
the best you can do.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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McGANN, Ron wrote:
> G'day all,
>
> I'm about to order coax for the antennas. Any recommendations on a
> convenient qty? RG400 or RG58 or other? Config will be:
>
> Archer navs in each wingtip
> bent whip on bottom
> stright whip on top behind lid
> XPDR on bottom fwd fuse
>
> Any additional considerations on antenna placement? I'm not familiar
> with the exhaust configuration - are there any antenna locs to NOT use
> to avoid exhaust outflow? Any shadowing issues with gear legs etc ?
>
> thanks in advance,
> Ron
> #187 fuse
>
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| Subject: | Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root |
Attaching the wings looks like it might be a significant job on the -10. Removing
and re-installing is not something that I would look forward to. What do
listers really think the probability of removing a wing is likely to be, once
the plane is finished and flying? Currently mulling over the REAL need for electrical
connectors at the wing roots.
cheers,
Ron
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| Subject: | Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wi ng |
root
I've been lurking on these lists for years, but I've never sent a message
until now - I couldn't resist :-)
I'm currently building an RV-10 and removal/installation of RV-10 wings is
easy, in my opinion. I am biased though, because I built an RV-6A and it is
a lot more difficult to install its wings because it uses ~ 76 bolts and the
landing gear must be removed with it.
Removal of the wings is unlikely once flying, though unless you want to
remove them for painting or you have trouble and need to land off-airport.
Personally, I'm going to install wiring connectors in the wing root just to
make it easier when I do remove the wings.
Kevin D. Belue
RV-6A Flying
RV-10 Fuselage/Finish kit
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing
root
Attaching the wings looks like it might be a significant job on the -10.
Removing and re-installing is not something that I would look forward to.
What do listers really think the probability of removing a wing is likely to
be, once the plane is finished and flying? Currently mulling over the REAL
need for electrical connectors at the wing roots.
cheers,
Ron
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<span style=3D'font-size:
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<span style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I'm currently building an RV-10 and
removal/installation of RV-10 wings is easy, in my opinion. I am biased though,
because I built an RV-6A and it is a lot more difficult to install its wings
because it uses ~ 76 bolts and the landing gear must be removed with it.
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<span style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Removal of the wings is unlikely once
flying, though unless you want to remove them for painting or you have trouble
and need to land off-airport. Personally, I'm going to install wiring
connectors in the wing root just to make it easier when I do remove the wings.
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owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On
Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:25
PM
Subject: RV10-List: Planned or
Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root
<span style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>
<span style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Attaching the wings looks like it might be
a significant job on the -10. Removing and re-installing is not something
that I would look forward to. What do listers really think the
probability of removing a wing is likely to be, once the plane is finished and
flying? Currently mulling over the REAL need for electrical connectors at
the wingroots.
<span style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>
<span style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>cheers,
<span style=3D'font-size:
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| Subject: | Re: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wi ng |
root
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I think the wing connector issue is just a preference thing. I
prefer to have no unnecessary connection points to fail, so I
didn't put in a connector. Others did, but good connectors
shouldn't fail very often, so that's ok too.
For what it's worth, if you don't consider fuel lines, control
linkages, and nuts and bolts to torque, (or cover panels)
putting the wings on and taking them off takes about 10 minutes
for 3 people to do. It's one of the quickest things you can
do to make your plane look more complete.
I wouldn't sweat the decision....don't base it on how hard
the wings are to remove. If you don't use connectors, just
leave a small service loop or slack in the wires and you
could always cut and put in connectors later, IF, and that's
a big if, you ever have reason to pull the wings. For now
though, I'd rather not have splices in my antenna and strobe
wires especially.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Belue, Kevin wrote:
> I've been lurking on these lists for years, but I've never sent a
> message until now - I couldn't resist J
>
> I'm currently building an RV-10 and removal/installation of RV-10 wings
> is easy, in my opinion. I am biased though, because I built an RV-6A and
> it is a lot more difficult to install its wings because it uses ~ 76
> bolts and the landing gear must be removed with it.
>
>
>
> Removal of the wings is unlikely once flying, though unless you want to
> remove them for painting or you have trouble and need to land
> off-airport. Personally, I'm going to install wiring connectors in the
> wing root just to make it easier when I do remove the wings.
>
>
>
> **/Kevin D. Belue/**
>
> **/RV-6A Flying/**
>
> **/RV-10 Fuselage/Finish kit/**
>
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *McGANN, Ron
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:25 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at
> wing root
>
>
>
> Attaching the wings looks like it might be a significant job on the
> -10. Removing and re-installing is not something that I would look
> forward to. What do listers really think the probability of removing a
> wing is likely to be, once the plane is finished and flying? Currently
> mulling over the REAL need for electrical connectors at the wing roots.
>
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Ron
>
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>
>
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> EXPORTED OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES OR TO NON U.S. PERSONS WITHOUT THE
> APPROPRIATE EXPORT LICENSE FROM EITHER THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE OR
> DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement |
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| Subject: | Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root |
Having already built a -4 with the connectors, it took quite a bit more
time to wire in the connectors and it made multiple points of failure.
I am building a -10 and I will not make connectors for wing removal. I
will leave an extra 6" of wire in the wing root so that if I ever have
to remove the wings, I can cut the wires and add connectors at that
time. This way it will be the cheapest, lightest, and fastest
solution.... If you have to remove the wings later, the last concern
will be adding connectors in the wires. You will have a better chance
of connectors failing in the wings someday than having to remove the
wings.
Just my opinion.
-Mike
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:25 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing
root
Attaching the wings looks like it might be a significant job on the -10.
Removing and re-installing is not something that I would look forward
to. What do listers really think the probability of removing a wing is
likely to be, once the plane is finished and flying? Currently mulling
over the REAL need for electrical connectors at the wing roots.
cheers,
Ron
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Currently at the top of my list:
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/20Engine/index.html
Still on the fence regarding the "Red Gold" option for an extra $3K however.
William Curtis
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root |
McGANN, Ron wrote:
> Attaching the wings looks like it might be a significant job on the
> -10. Removing and re-installing is not something that I would look
> forward to. What do listers really think the probability of removing
> a wing is likely to be, once the plane is finished and flying?
> Currently mulling over the REAL need for electrical connectors at the
> wing roots.
>
> cheers,
> Ron
I've had two off-field landings, (and one really bad landing) in two
different aircraft. In all three cases the wings were removed and the
airplane trailered home.
That's one reason.
The other reason is the ability to separate electrical areas for
troubleshooting.
The expense isn't much in the scheme of things, nor is the labor. It'll
sure make things easier if you have to re-visit the decision to run one
long wire from the source to the load.
IMHO, making the electrical system modular just makes sense.
Linn
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| Subject: | Elevator Trailing Edge |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
Mine are all pointed down, no angle iron method. Thinned the proseal with
some tuolene, used a bunch of weight, all looks good.
Rob #392
Emp Fairings
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Elevator Trailing Edge
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I alternated on the rudder for symmetry. I put the flush head on top
for the elevators for cosmetics. Either way will come out
just fine, but the flush heads will look nicer on the elevators for sure.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Shawn Moon wrote:
> All,
> I am about to do my elevator trailing edges and have a quick
> question. I plan on using the angle iron method (I made a nice proseal
> mess doing it the Van's way for the rudder) and was wondering about the
> direction of the rivets. Did everyone set all of the rivets in the same
> direction so the shop head was on the bottom side or did you still
> alternate them? I would rather have the shop heads hidden on the bottom
> but not if there is going to be a problem with it hooking. Thanks.
>
> --Shawn
> 40366
>
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| Subject: | epoxy and gelcoat |
Just started working on the emp fairings. My VS fairing has plenty of
pinholes in the gelcoat, and some other areas need worked out as well. I'm
using West System 105/206 resin/hardener. Will I need to completely remove
all gelcoat before I use the epoxy, or after I sand down and clean the
surface will the epoxy make a good mechanical bond to the exposed fiberglass
as well as the nearby gelcoat?
Rob
#392
Emp fairings - QB fuse and wings due in April!
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| Subject: | Re: epoxy and gelcoat |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
A light sanding of those gelcoated parts, followed by a scrub-on coat of West Epoxy
diluted 1:1 with acetone, will fill many of the pinholes. This is what Van's
recommends. Let the epoxy cure a few days, sand it lightly, then add coat
of a filler like "UV smooth prime" (available from ACS) either sprayed, brushed
or even rolled on. Wet sand that down and it makes a near-perfect pinhole-less
surface for subsequent painting.
Did that on the entire cowl for my -7A and it looks great 2.5 years later, even
with all of the heating and stresses cowls get. The white gel-coated parts are
even easier to get to a paintable stage.
-Dan Masys
#40448 N104LD reserved
> From: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
> Date: 2006/03/07 Tue PM 10:41:31 EST
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: epoxy and gelcoat
>
> Just started working on the emp fairings. My VS fairing has plenty of
> pinholes in the gelcoat, and some other areas need worked out as well. I'm
> using West System 105/206 resin/hardener. Will I need to completely remove
> all gelcoat before I use the epoxy, or after I sand down and clean the
> surface will the epoxy make a good mechanical bond to the exposed fiberglass
> as well as the nearby gelcoat?
>
>
>
> Rob
>
> #392
>
> Emp fairings - QB fuse and wings due in April!
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement |
I'm assuming this is VFR only or no ILS because you don't mention a marker beacon
antenna. Why put an antenna on top? All communications will be downward except
on the ground. Our RV-9A hasn't had any problems with comm on the bottom
antenna (it only has one). There was a slight shadowing from the wing on testing,
but a few degrees of turn resolved it. The plane was very close to the
tower and it worked OK, but not full strength (according to the tower). No shadowing
from the gear known of.
How about you hams? Y'all are the experts.
John Lenhardt
#40262
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----- Original Message -----
From: McGANN, Ron
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Coax reqts and antenna placement
G'day all,
I'm about to order coax for the antennas. Any recommendations on a convenient
qty? RG400 or RG58 or other? Config will be:
Archer navs in each wingtip
bent whip on bottom
stright whip on top behind lid
XPDR on bottom fwd fuse
Any additional considerations on antenna placement? I'm not familiar with the
exhaust configuration - are there any antenna locs to NOT use to avoid exhaust
outflow? Any shadowing issues with gear legs etc ?
thanks in advance,
Ron
#187 fuse
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| Subject: | Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root |
Thanks for the responses on this guys. I have never had an off field landing (touch
wood), so had not considered the need to remove the wings for recovery.
The positive feedback on wing installation and removal has also been very helpful.
One of the down sides I had considered wrt connectors at the root was actual placement
of the connectors themselves. If they are at the most inboard rib ala
Randy De B', I was concerned about moisture ingress and other crud that could
compromise the connection. After further thought, I am leaning towards installing
a junction box somewhere in the fuse adjacent the wing root (maybe on the
F1016L/R rib). This keeps the BNCs and DC connectors to the wings out of harms
way (maybe more reliable) and offers the advantages of modular design/quick
disconnect previously indicated. Any feedback on this approach would also be
appreciated.
cheers,
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Wednesday, 8 March 2006 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root
McGANN, Ron wrote:
Attaching the wings looks like it might be a significant job on the -10. Removing
and re-installing is not something that I would look forward to. What do
listers really think the probability of removing a wing is likely to be, once
the plane is finished and flying? Currently mulling over the REAL need for electrical
connectors at the wing roots.
cheers,
Ron
I've had two off-field landings, (and one really bad landing) in two different
aircraft. In all three cases the wings were removed and the airplane trailered
home.
That's one reason.
The other reason is the ability to separate electrical areas for troubleshooting.
The expense isn't much in the scheme of things, nor is the labor. It'll sure make
things easier if you have to re-visit the decision to run one long wire from
the source to the load.
IMHO, making the electrical system modular just makes sense.
Linn
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| Subject: | Coax reqts and antenna placement |
Thanks John. IFR - yes I neglected the Marker antenna in the wing. Couple of
reasons for the top antenna.
1. Straight antenna has better performance than a bent whip
2. Comant recommend Com1 on top of acft
3. Rough strips here in Oz - any branch or other litter thrown up during takeoff/landing
could just as easily take out both belly antennas (if you are really
unlucky).
4. Obscuration by wings/fuse at long distance to a fixed VHF station is minimal,
therefore no real penalty for a top mount.
I am sure others will have a different view, but I'm comfortable with my decision.
cheers,
Ron
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Lenhardt
Sent: Wednesday, 8 March 2006 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Coax reqts and antenna placement
I'm assuming this is VFR only or no ILS because you don't mention a marker beacon
antenna. Why put an antenna on top? All communications will be downward except
on the ground. Our RV-9A hasn't had any problems with comm on the bottom
antenna (it only has one). There was a slight shadowing from the wing on testing,
but a few degrees of turn resolved it. The plane was very close to the
tower and it worked OK, but not full strength (according to the tower). No shadowing
from the gear known of.
How about you hams? Y'all are the experts.
John Lenhardt
#40262
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----- Original Message -----
From: McGANN, Ron <mailto:ron.mcgann@baesystems.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Coax reqts and antenna placement
G'day all,
I'm about to order coax for the antennas. Any recommendations on a convenient
qty? RG400 or RG58 or other? Config will be:
Archer navs in each wingtip
bent whip on bottom
stright whip on top behind lid
XPDR on bottom fwd fuse
Any additional considerations on antenna placement? I'm not familiar with the
exhaust configuration - are there any antenna locs to NOT use to avoid exhaust
outflow? Any shadowing issues with gear legs etc ?
thanks in advance,
Ron
#187 fuse
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