Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:06 AM - Re: epoxy and gelcoat (David McNeill)
2. 06:31 AM - Panel Flying Impressions (Tim Olson)
3. 07:52 AM - Re: Elevator Trailing Edge (Shawn Moon)
4. 09:32 AM - Fuel Filter Location (Gary Specketer)
5. 09:36 AM - Re: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 11:30 AM - Re: Fuel Filter Location (rob kermanj)
7. 01:55 PM - Re: Fuel Filter Location (Gary Specketer)
8. 02:30 PM - Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement (Larry Rosen)
9. 04:06 PM - Re: Fuel Filter Location (rob kermanj)
10. 04:30 PM - Re: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root (Robert G. Wright)
11. 05:07 PM - Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement (John Lenhardt)
12. 05:14 PM - Re: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root (Marcus Cooper)
13. 05:28 PM - Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement (David McNeill)
14. 05:36 PM - Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement (Sean Stephens)
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| Subject: | Re: epoxy and gelcoat |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Another tip. When you get to the step to rivet on the hinge for the cowl,
consider putting a 1" strip of E-glass over the rivet line after attaching
the hinge. This will prevent the rivet heads from working their way through
the paint after a couple of hundred hours.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Masys" <dmasys@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: epoxy and gelcoat
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
>
> A light sanding of those gelcoated parts, followed by a scrub-on coat of
> West Epoxy diluted 1:1 with acetone, will fill many of the pinholes. This
> is what Van's recommends. Let the epoxy cure a few days, sand it lightly,
> then add coat of a filler like "UV smooth prime" (available from ACS)
> either sprayed, brushed or even rolled on. Wet sand that down and it
> makes a near-perfect pinhole-less surface for subsequent painting.
>
> Did that on the entire cowl for my -7A and it looks great 2.5 years later,
> even with all of the heating and stresses cowls get. The white gel-coated
> parts are even easier to get to a paintable stage.
>
> -Dan Masys
> #40448 N104LD reserved
>
>
>> From: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
>> Date: 2006/03/07 Tue PM 10:41:31 EST
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RV10-List: epoxy and gelcoat
>>
>> Just started working on the emp fairings. My VS fairing has plenty of
>> pinholes in the gelcoat, and some other areas need worked out as well.
>> I'm
>> using West System 105/206 resin/hardener. Will I need to completely
>> remove
>> all gelcoat before I use the epoxy, or after I sand down and clean the
>> surface will the epoxy make a good mechanical bond to the exposed
>> fiberglass
>> as well as the nearby gelcoat?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob
>>
>> #392
>>
>> Emp fairings - QB fuse and wings due in April!
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Panel Flying Impressions |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I took a short time to write a bit about some RV-10 flying impressions
and especially my panel and layout and how I feel about things now that
I've been flying with it.
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/panel/20060304/index.html
I'll probably add more to that page as I figure out what other topics
need covering. If you email me questions, I'll try to answer them
there too.
Tell you what, I'm very happy with what I have created. This
airplane building stuff kicks butt. ;)
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Elevator Trailing Edge |
Thanks for the replies. Nothing like a unanimous vote! :P But, since nobody
has had any problems with the rivets all facing down I think I will go that route.
--Shawn
40366
"Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net> wrote: --> RV10-List message posted
by: "Robert G. Wright"
Mine are all pointed down, no angle iron method. Thinned the proseal with
some tuolene, used a bunch of weight, all looks good.
Rob #392
Emp Fairings
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Elevator Trailing Edge
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
I alternated on the rudder for symmetry. I put the flush head on top
for the elevators for cosmetics. Either way will come out
just fine, but the flush heads will look nicer on the elevators for sure.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Shawn Moon wrote:
> All,
> I am about to do my elevator trailing edges and have a quick
> question. I plan on using the angle iron method (I made a nice proseal
> mess doing it the Van's way for the rudder) and was wondering about the
> direction of the rivets. Did everyone set all of the rivets in the same
> direction so the shop head was on the bottom side or did you still
> alternate them? I would rather have the shop heads hidden on the bottom
> but not if there is going to be a problem with it hooking. Thanks.
>
> --Shawn
> 40366
>
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| Subject: | Fuel Filter Location |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
I had my filter backordered from Van's. That gave me time to think. (never
a good idea) Is the location in the tunnel a problem for maintanance? I
would think that it would be better on the firewall with a heat shield
around it. Comments
Gary 40276
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| Subject: | Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root |
I plan on making straight runs with a service loop at the wings. If I ever have
to take them apart I can cut the loop and put in connectors at that point.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root
Attaching the wings looks like it might be a significant job on the -10. Removing
and re-installing is not something that I would look forward to. What do
listers really think the probability of removing a wing is likely to be, once
the plane is finished and flying? Currently mulling over the REAL need for electrical
connectors at the wing roots.
cheers,
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Filter Location |
--> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
The filter and the pump come pre assembled as a unit. Yes, I think
that it is not in an ideal location for maintenance but you will have
less chance of vapor lock also.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Mar 8, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Gary Specketer wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer"
> <speckter@comcast.net>
>
>
> I had my filter backordered from Van's. That gave me time to
> think. (never
> a good idea) Is the location in the tunnel a problem for
> maintanance? I
> would think that it would be better on the firewall with a heat shield
> around it. Comments
> Gary 40276
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel Filter Location |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
Mine did not come with the filter. In fact when I ordered it it took 3
people to figure out what to send me. They had no clue what the RV10 uses.
Does that filter disassemble for cleaning, or replace filter unit or what?
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rob kermanj
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Filter Location
--> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
The filter and the pump come pre assembled as a unit. Yes, I think
that it is not in an ideal location for maintenance but you will have
less chance of vapor lock also.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Mar 8, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Gary Specketer wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer"
> <speckter@comcast.net>
>
>
> I had my filter backordered from Van's. That gave me time to
> think. (never
> a good idea) Is the location in the tunnel a problem for
> maintanance? I
> would think that it would be better on the firewall with a heat shield
> around it. Comments
> Gary 40276
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
McGANN, Ron wrote:
> ......
>
> I am sure others will have a different view, but I'm comfortable with
> my decision.
>
> cheers,
> Ron
>
> Do not archive
Thats why we are building experimentals. :-) So we can make our own
choices.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Filter Location |
--> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
I have not taken it apart but it will open with a wrench. Did you
not order it from van? I was wrong, The filter comes separate, it is
the pump and the check valve that comes together.
rob kermanj
rv10es@earthlink.net
On Mar 8, 2006, at 4:53 PM, Gary Specketer wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer"
> <speckter@comcast.net>
>
> Mine did not come with the filter. In fact when I ordered it it
> took 3
> people to figure out what to send me. They had no clue what the
> RV10 uses.
> Does that filter disassemble for cleaning, or replace filter unit
> or what?
> Gary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rob kermanj
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:28 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Filter Location
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
>
> The filter and the pump come pre assembled as a unit. Yes, I think
> that it is not in an ideal location for maintenance but you will have
> less chance of vapor lock also.
>
>
> rob kermanj
> rv10es@earthlink.net
>
>
> On Mar 8, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Gary Specketer wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer"
>> <speckter@comcast.net>
>>
>>
>> I had my filter backordered from Van's. That gave me time to
>> think. (never
>> a good idea) Is the location in the tunnel a problem for
>> maintanance? I
>> would think that it would be better on the firewall with a heat
>> shield
>> around it. Comments
>> Gary 40276
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>
>
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| Subject: | Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root |
As long as it's not too long, would a decent sized service loop allow for
disconnecting the wings and "folding" them alongside the fuse? This assumes
you have the capability to get the plane on a single trailer to get out of
the field. How much length for slack would make a loop that's not
in-the-way large?
Rob
#392
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing
root
I plan on making straight runs with a service loop at the wings. If I ever
have to take them apart I can cut the loop and put in connectors at that
point.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing
root
Attaching the wings looks like it might be a significant job on the -10.
Removing and re-installing is not something that I would look forward to.
What do listers really think the probability of removing a wing is likely to
be, once the plane is finished and flying? Currently mulling over the REAL
need for electrical connectors at the wing roots.
cheers,
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement |
While we're on the subject and for those planning on ILS, where is the glideslope
antennas being mounted? I was thinking of putting it above the windscreen,
maybe glassing it into the canopy, and running the coax down the support. Any
better suggestions or experiences?
John Lenhardt
#40262
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| Subject: | Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing root |
Rob,
Having had the unfortunate experience requiring removing the wings off
station, I would offer you would have to make the service loop awfully large
(6 feet plus??). Otherwise you will find yourself requiring a lot more
labor and gnashing of teeth trying to keep the wing root close enough to the
fuselage, especially if on uneven terrain. If you really want to avoid the
connectors, I suspect a loop large enough to cut and allow adding connectors
or splicing as mentioned before would be the way to go.
Marcus
40286
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert G. Wright
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:29 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing
root
As long as it's not too long, would a decent sized service loop allow for
disconnecting the wings and "folding" them alongside the fuse? This assumes
you have the capability to get the plane on a single trailer to get out of
the field. How much length for slack would make a loop that's not
in-the-way large?
Rob
#392
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:36 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing
root
I plan on making straight runs with a service loop at the wings. If I ever
have to take them apart I can cut the loop and put in connectors at that
point.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Planned or Future Wing Removal - Connections at wing
root
Attaching the wings looks like it might be a significant job on the -10.
Removing and re-installing is not something that I would look forward to.
What do listers really think the probability of removing a wing is likely to
be, once the plane is finished and flying? Currently mulling over the REAL
need for electrical connectors at the wing roots.
cheers,
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement |
why not install a SL30; the loc antenna input is good for both loc and gs?
----- Original Message -----
From: John Lenhardt
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Coax reqts and antenna placement
While we're on the subject and for those planning on ILS, where is the glideslope
antennas being mounted? I was thinking of putting it above the windscreen,
maybe glassing it into the canopy, and running the coax down the support.
Any better suggestions or experiences?
John Lenhardt
#40262
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| Subject: | Re: Coax reqts and antenna placement |
On Mar 8, 2006, at 6:07 PM, John Lenhardt wrote:
> While we're on the subject and for those planning on ILS, where is
> the glideslope antennas being mounted? I was thinking of putting
> it above the windscreen, maybe glassing it into the canopy, and
> running the coax down the support. Any better suggestions or
> experiences?
>
> John Lenhardt
> #40262
>
I'm using an archer antenna in both wingtips. Nav2 of those will be
diplexed as the GS antenna.
-Sean #40303 (wing bottom skins)
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