RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 03/13/06


Total Messages Posted: 27



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:10 AM - Re: When to install second U-1002 Isolator Washer (Tim Olson)
     2. 04:10 AM - Re: Wing tip nutplates (Tim Olson)
     3. 04:31 AM - Re: Re: cowl/fuse hinge shims ()
     4. 04:49 AM - Re: Re: RV-10s at Sun-n-Fun - engine mount ()
     5. 06:25 AM - COM Ant Location (Jesse Saint)
     6. 07:06 AM - Re: Engine questions - Price increase (Rhonda Bewley)
     7. 08:00 AM - Re: RV-10 propeller test? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     8. 08:09 AM - Wiring Diagram Software (Jesse Saint)
     9. 08:51 AM - Re: Engine questions - Price increase (John Gonzalez)
    10. 09:01 AM - Re: Engine questions - Price increase (Rhonda Bewley)
    11. 10:40 AM - Re: Engine questions - Price increase (David McNeill)
    12. 10:40 AM - Re: Wiring Diagram Software (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
    13. 10:43 AM - Re: Engine questions - Price increase (David McNeill)
    14. 12:05 PM - Engine choice - I made my mine (Deems Davis)
    15. 12:35 PM - Trim Speed & Tail Wire Run (Conti, Rick)
    16. 12:46 PM - Re: Engine choice - I made my mine (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    17. 03:14 PM - Re: Trim Speed & Tail Wire Run (Tim Olson)
    18. 04:21 PM - Re: Trim Speed & Tail Wire Run (Jesse Saint)
    19. 04:48 PM - Re: Trim Speed & Tail Wire Run (Tim Olson)
    20. 05:02 PM - Re: Engine choice - I made my mine (Bill)
    21. 07:40 PM - Re: Engine questions - Price increase (John W. Cox)
    22. 07:46 PM - Re: Wiring Diagram Software (John W. Cox)
    23. 07:48 PM - Re: Engine choice - I made my mine (John W. Cox)
    24. 08:25 PM - Re: Wiring Diagram Software (Jeff Dalton)
    25. 08:43 PM - Re: Trim Speed & Tail Wire Run (Kevin Echols)
    26. 10:38 PM - Re: Wiring Diagram Software (Steven DiNieri)
    27. 10:56 PM - Re: Wiring Diagram Software (John Dunne)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:10:19 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: When to install second U-1002 Isolator Washer
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I would guess that would be checked by lifting the front of the plane, and then when the nose gear is hanging free, lift the nose gear. When you get slop there, then you'd want to add it. It would be to take up extra slop so there's not so much of a gear drop as you lift off the ground. Ideally you'd have a nut to adjust so that you could take up all of the slop, and your gear would never have any in it. As for when, I guess that all depends. I haven't rechecked mine, and might not until summer. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive DejaVu wrote: > U-1002 isolator washers go on top of the four elastomers on the nose > gear mount. Page 46-07 says to install the second U-1002 isolator > washer later, after the elastomers have been set and taken shape. When > will that be? > Anh > #141


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    Time: 04:10:45 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Wing tip nutplates
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> For the clear cover, I went the conservative way and bought 3/32" pop rivets and pulled them. I did mine after paint which was the biggest reason, but after doing it, I'd recommend it... your right...they'd be hard to rivet without breaking something. As for the landing light ones, I didn't use those lights so I can't comment on those....maybe the same thing? Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive ddddsp1@juno.com wrote: > Getting ready to do the nutplates in the wingtip for the landing light, > nav/strobe light and the clear shield that covers them. Reading the > instructions it makes no mention of HOW to buck/squeeze the rivets in > these nutplates. What is everybody doing to get these rivets in? Can > you buck the fiberglass? I don't believe I can get my 3" squeezer on > any of them..........all suggestions and pictures welcome! Thanks in > advance for your ideas guys. > > Dean > > 40449 > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month!


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    Time: 04:31:44 AM PST US
    From: <dav1111@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: cowl/fuse hinge shims
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <dav1111@cox.net> Larry: NO shims are provided for the cowl / fuse hinge. The two side shims for the inside bottom of the cabin cover are provided either in the fuselage or finish kit I can't remember which. Mine had parts numbers on them. The top back inside shim for the cabin cover came with my Emp. Kit I think. I had to make the shims for the cowl / fuse as shown by the plans. Russ N710RV Reserved RV-10 close to flying I hope > > From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> > Date: 2006/03/12 Sun AM 09:46:30 EST > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: cowl/fuse hinge shims > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> > > The message below is from back in August 2005. > I just received my finish and FWF kits. :-) Included are 2 thin (.020 > or .025) strips 1/2" by 48". I cannot find them on my inventory list. > Are these the shims for the cowling hinges or are they needed for the > finish kit or FWF? > > Larry Rosen > http://lrosen.nerv10.com > > Marcus Cooper wrote: > > >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net> > > > >I'm trying to locate the material to make the shims for the hinges that > >attach to the firewall and cowling. It's 020 X 1/2" but for the life of me > >I can't find it in the shipping list or lying around. I could make it from > >the trim pack, although one piece is supposed to be 15" long and the trim > >pack is only 12" (I think), besides it seems strange not to supply the 1/2" > >material to be cut to length. > > > >Anyone else run into this or have a solution? In case it matters, mine is a > >QB. > > > >Thanks, > >Marcus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:49:42 AM PST US
    From: <dav1111@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-10s at Sun-n-Fun - engine mount
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <dav1111@cox.net> I hung my IO-540-C4B5 (rebuild) last week and had no problems with the sump clearance. Russ Daves #40044 N710RV (Reserved) Hopefully flying soon > > From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> > Date: 2006/03/12 Sun PM 06:26:55 EST > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10s at Sun-n-Fun - engine mount > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> > > Tim has a write up on the modification that Vans made to the engine > mount to get better clearance with the sump. Read it here > <http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/engine/20051022/index.html>. > > I thought this was going to be a modification that Vans would > incorporate into future mounts. Mine arrived Friday and it does not > have the modification. :-( > > Larry Rosen > http://lrosen.nerv10.com > > Sam Marlow wrote: > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow <sam.marlow@adelphia.net> > > > > Hi Tim, just wondered which engine dash number sump you ended up using > > to get the required clearence on the engine mount? > > Thanks, > > Sam > > Working of fuse, still! > > > > Tim Olson wrote: > > > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > >> > >> Congrats on mounting the engine. That's a fun step. How was your > >> clearance to the bar below the sump? > >> > >> I'll be at S-N-F. Currently my plan is to bring the plane to > >> Lakeland Tuesday to put in Van's booth, but I won't stick around > >> for the show. I'll do family things during the week and then > >> come to the show Friday and Saturday, and then leave for home > >> after the show Saturday or early Sunday. Unless something > >> falls through on Van's end, my plane will be at their booth. Any > >> help provided by you guys keeping people off and out of the plane > >> will be well appreciated. > >> > >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > >> do not archive > >> > >> > >> Marcus Cooper wrote: > >> > >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net> > >>> > >>> For those of you with flying -10s attending Sun-n-Fun, I was > >>> wondering what > >>> dates you will there? My schedule isn't real flexible, but I'd like > >>> to plan > >>> it so as to see as many airplanes (of the right kind!) as possible. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Marcus > >>> 40286 > >>> Mounted the engine yesterday! > >>> > >>> Do Not Archive > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:25:06 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: COM Ant Location
    Has anybody considered putting the COM antennas on the bottom of the wings, like just next to the first inspection plate? Any good reason not to? I'm not too crazy about the idea of putting them under the pilot's and copilot's seats with all of the fuel, brake and control systems and the tail isn't wide enough to put two of them side-by-side while allowing for the proper spacing. Either on the wing-root fairing or on the bottom of the wing seems to be a good place, unless the wing root location would be too close to the gear. Also, does anybody have a scan of the Van's wiring diagram for the -10? I have one, but it's not down here in Ecuador with me. Anybody who purchased the wiring harness, would you possibly be able to scan it and post it somewhere for me to download? Thanks! Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> jesse@itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org> www.itecusa.org I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545.


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    Time: 07:06:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Engine questions - Price increase
    From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com> Larry: Price increases from Lycoming to the engine shops that are building the New Lycoming Experimental Engines go into effect this Wednesday, March 15th. Please feel free to call me if you'd like any additional details. Rhonda Barrett-Bewley Barrett Precision Engines, Inc. 2870-B N. Sheridan Rd. Tulsa,OK 74115 (918) 835-1089 phone (918) 835-1754 fax www.barrettprecisionengines.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:50 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> "... particularly the note about imminent price increases." I need to order my engine soon. I was going to wait until after Sun-N-Fun. Any details on the imminent price increase? -- Larry Rosen RV-10 #356 http://lrosen.nerv10.com


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    Time: 08:00:52 AM PST US
    Subject: RV-10 propeller test?
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Jim, Did you ever get some comparison data around this? Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=3D22> ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LessDragProd@aol.com Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 10:51 PM Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 propeller test? Hi All, Is anyone willing to test both the RV-10 MT Propeller and the RV-10 Hartzell propeller on their flying RV-10? Please contact me directly at jim@lessdrag.com, or call me at (805) 795-5377. Van's Aircraft hasn't had time available with their RV-10 to test the RV-10 MT Propeller. The Hartzell propeller Van's Aircraft sells to RV-10 builders, model number C2YR-1BFP/F8068D, is unique to the RV-10. In talking with Hartzell, apparently the C2YR-1BFP/F8068D propeller can only be purchased from Van's Aircraft. And Van's Aircraft can only sell one Hartzell propeller to each builder. Do you see were this is going? The Hartzell builders are the only ones with the RV-10 Hartzell propellers. It looks like it is up to someone with a flying RV-10 using a Hartzell propeller to step forward, if both propellers are to be tested on a common airframe. Regards, Jim Ayers


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    Time: 08:09:46 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Wiring Diagram Software
    Does anybody know of a free CAD program that can import the wiring diagrams from AeroElectric.com and edit them? Still needing the Van's wiring diagram as well, if anybody has it. Do not archive Thanks. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> jesse@itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org> www.itecusa.org I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545.


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    Time: 08:51:17 AM PST US
    From: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Engine questions - Price increase
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Does anyone know whether this price increase is just on engines being sent to engine shops or does this price increase also involve the certified versions from Lyco. It seems that when you have a monopoly on the market, you can charge whatever you want. Is it really a $3K-$4K price increase? What was the reason cited...lack of competition! >From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com> >To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:05:35 -0600 > >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com> > >Larry: > >Price increases from Lycoming to the engine shops that are building the >New Lycoming Experimental Engines go into effect this Wednesday, March >15th. Please feel free to call me if you'd like any additional details. > >Rhonda Barrett-Bewley >Barrett Precision Engines, Inc. >2870-B N. Sheridan Rd. >Tulsa,OK 74115 >(918) 835-1089 phone >(918) 835-1754 fax >www.barrettprecisionengines.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen >Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:50 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> > >"... particularly the note about imminent price increases." > >I need to order my engine soon. I was going to wait until after >Sun-N-Fun. > >Any details on the imminent price increase? > >-- > >Larry Rosen >RV-10 #356 >http://lrosen.nerv10.com > >


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    Time: 09:01:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Engine questions - Price increase
    From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com> The price increases on certified engines was effective at the beginning of the year. You may have noticed a significant increase in prices from Van's or the factory at that time. The increase that we are talking about is on the Experimental engines. The reason we have been given is the significant increase in raw materials and labor to produce the parts. Yes, the increase is really going to be in the 4k range and is due solely to the price increase from the factory to the suppliers. Rhonda -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Does anyone know whether this price increase is just on engines being sent to engine shops or does this price increase also involve the certified versions from Lyco. It seems that when you have a monopoly on the market, you can charge whatever you want. Is it really a $3K-$4K price increase? What was the reason cited...lack of competition! >From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com> >To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:05:35 -0600 > >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com> > >Larry: > >Price increases from Lycoming to the engine shops that are building the >New Lycoming Experimental Engines go into effect this Wednesday, March >15th. Please feel free to call me if you'd like any additional details. > >Rhonda Barrett-Bewley >Barrett Precision Engines, Inc. >2870-B N. Sheridan Rd. >Tulsa,OK 74115 >(918) 835-1089 phone >(918) 835-1754 fax >www.barrettprecisionengines.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen >Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:50 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> > >"... particularly the note about imminent price increases." > >I need to order my engine soon. I was going to wait until after >Sun-N-Fun. > >Any details on the imminent price increase? > >-- > >Larry Rosen >RV-10 #356 >http://lrosen.nerv10.com > >


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    Time: 10:40:41 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Engine questions - Price increase
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net> I checked Van's on new aircraft engines; their prices are changed yearly in August for shipments that arrive after January, so unless things are different this year the new OEM price will stray same at Van's until Aug 31. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:01 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com> > > The price increases on certified engines was effective at the beginning > of the year. You may have noticed a significant increase in prices from > Van's or the factory at that time. > > The increase that we are talking about is on the Experimental engines. > The reason we have been given is the significant increase in raw > materials and labor to produce the parts. Yes, the increase is really > going to be in the 4k range and is due solely to the price increase from > the factory to the suppliers. > > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:50 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" > <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> > > Does anyone know whether this price increase is just on engines being > sent > to engine shops or does this price increase also involve the certified > versions from Lyco. > > It seems that when you have a monopoly on the market, you can charge > whatever you want. Is it really a $3K-$4K price increase? What was the > > reason cited...lack of competition! > > >>From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com> >>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase >>Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:05:35 -0600 >> >>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" > <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com> >> >>Larry: >> >>Price increases from Lycoming to the engine shops that are building the >>New Lycoming Experimental Engines go into effect this Wednesday, March >>15th. Please feel free to call me if you'd like any additional > details. >> >>Rhonda Barrett-Bewley >>Barrett Precision Engines, Inc. >>2870-B N. Sheridan Rd. >>Tulsa,OK 74115 >>(918) 835-1089 phone >>(918) 835-1754 fax >>www.barrettprecisionengines.com >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen >>Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:50 AM >>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase >> >>--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> >> >>"... particularly the note about imminent price increases." >> >>I need to order my engine soon. I was going to wait until after >>Sun-N-Fun. >> >>Any details on the imminent price increase? >> >>-- >> >>Larry Rosen >>RV-10 #356 >>http://lrosen.nerv10.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 10:40:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Wiring Diagram Software
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    I know I am going to get yelled at for this, but seeing how you are way down south here is the PDF of the wiring harness, it is 1.4mg, so should not be too bad for the dialup guys. Sorry before hand, but want to help a fellow RV'r out. Dan Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:08 AM Subject: RV10-List: Wiring Diagram Software Does anybody know of a free CAD program that can import the wiring diagrams from AeroElectric.com and edit them? Still needing the Van's wiring diagram as well, if anybody has it. Do not archive Thanks. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org> I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545.


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    Time: 10:43:13 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Engine questions - Price increase
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net> As I recall my engine was $38900 from Van's for December 2004 delivery, price for delivery in 2005 was $42600 so would expect some kind of price increase from Van's late August. I suspect Lycoming trying to squeeze the experimental assemblers of IO540s from certified parts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:01 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com> > > The price increases on certified engines was effective at the beginning > of the year. You may have noticed a significant increase in prices from > Van's or the factory at that time. > > The increase that we are talking about is on the Experimental engines. > The reason we have been given is the significant increase in raw > materials and labor to produce the parts. Yes, the increase is really > going to be in the 4k range and is due solely to the price increase from > the factory to the suppliers. > > Rhonda > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:50 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" > <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> > > Does anyone know whether this price increase is just on engines being > sent > to engine shops or does this price increase also involve the certified > versions from Lyco. > > It seems that when you have a monopoly on the market, you can charge > whatever you want. Is it really a $3K-$4K price increase? What was the > > reason cited...lack of competition! > > >>From: "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda@bpaengines.com> >>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase >>Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:05:35 -0600 >> >>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rhonda Bewley" > <Rhonda@BPAENGINES.com> >> >>Larry: >> >>Price increases from Lycoming to the engine shops that are building the >>New Lycoming Experimental Engines go into effect this Wednesday, March >>15th. Please feel free to call me if you'd like any additional > details. >> >>Rhonda Barrett-Bewley >>Barrett Precision Engines, Inc. >>2870-B N. Sheridan Rd. >>Tulsa,OK 74115 >>(918) 835-1089 phone >>(918) 835-1754 fax >>www.barrettprecisionengines.com >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen >>Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:50 AM >>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase >> >>--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> >> >>"... particularly the note about imminent price increases." >> >>I need to order my engine soon. I was going to wait until after >>Sun-N-Fun. >> >>Any details on the imminent price increase? >> >>-- >> >>Larry Rosen >>RV-10 #356 >>http://lrosen.nerv10.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 12:05:54 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Engine choice - I made my mine
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> After getting a lot of input from the Matronics board, and talking off line to several people. I made my engine choice and today I placed my order with Allen Barrett of BPA Engines http://www.bpaengines.com/ . The timing of my decision was based on the price increase for the overhaul kits from Lycoming in 1 or 2 days. I already saw one price increase and want to avoid another. BPA is a respected engine builder they use the kit from Lycoming, similar to Aero Sport and Mattituck, only they do some extras eg. porting and flow matching, custom paint, dynamically balancing the rotating parts to a much stricter tolerance than others. (Others will do this but for extra fees).Then they do something unique, they run your engine on their dyno for 1 1/2 hours with a minute by minute printout that you get. Their attitude is that they believe this is the only way to build an engine and they won't build it otherwise. they'd rather let business go to other shops than build to a lower standard. I think that speaks tons to the mindset and attitude/culture that governs the way they operate. They also do Kirby Chamblis, and Patty Wagstaff's engines as well. Allen Barrett made a personal call to me to answer all of my questions and was extremely professional. As one person said "picking an engine is a painful experience" and each individual decision is governed by what is most important to that person. In this case BPA met my criteria and I'm happy with the decision. Thanks again to all who contributed knowledge and information to this process Deems Davis # 406 Fuse http://deemsrv10.com/


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    Time: 12:35:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Trim Speed & Tail Wire Run
    From: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> Flying RV-10s, I have read that the trim motors run too fast for easy trim in level flight. I have a speed controller I plan on wiring via a relay. The speed controller will only be in the circuit when the fuel pump is off. I want "regular" trim speed during the critical phases of flight (takeoff & landing). However, do you think the speed is too fast even for takeoff and landing? I have a second speed controller I can use if that is the case. Also - what wire routing did you use for your tail nav and strobes (if any)? My concern is where to enter the empennage. Thank You Rick Conti Senior Engineering Manager The Boeing Company office: 703 - 414 - 6141 blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134


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    Time: 12:46:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Engine choice - I made my mine
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    I too am in the process of finalizing my engine purchase with BPA. Allen is a great guy and very knowledgeable when it comes to these engines. I have no doubt he will build me a top notch engine that he can stand behind. I know Aerosport is popular ,and plenty of people love their Aerosport engine, but I can't see sending my money out of the country when I can send it 300 or so miles away and support a local business that isn't any more expensive. Not to mention the possible import duties and dealing internationally if there is a dispute. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: Engine choice - I made my mine --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> After getting a lot of input from the Matronics board, and talking off line to several people. I made my engine choice and today I placed my order with Allen Barrett of BPA Engines http://www.bpaengines.com/ . The timing of my decision was based on the price increase for the overhaul kits from Lycoming in 1 or 2 days. I already saw one price increase and want to avoid another. BPA is a respected engine builder they use the kit from Lycoming, similar to Aero Sport and Mattituck, only they do some extras eg. porting and flow matching, custom paint, dynamically balancing the rotating parts to a much stricter tolerance than others. (Others will do this but for extra fees).Then they do something unique, they run your engine on their dyno for 1 1/2 hours with a minute by minute printout that you get. Their attitude is that they believe this is the only way to build an engine and they won't build it otherwise. they'd rather let business go to other shops than build to a lower standard. I think that speaks tons to the mindset and attitude/culture that governs the way they operate. They also do Kirby Chamblis, and Patty Wagstaff's engines as well. Allen Barrett made a personal call to me to answer all of my questions and was extremely professional. As one person said "picking an engine is a painful experience" and each individual decision is governed by what is most important to that person. In this case BPA met my criteria and I'm happy with the decision. Thanks again to all who contributed knowledge and information to this process Deems Davis # 406 Fuse http://deemsrv10.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


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    Time: 03:14:26 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Trim Speed & Tail Wire Run
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I think the speed is just right during takeoff and landing and I wouldn't want to slow it down any during those phases. I was considering a switch to select high or low speed. Your idea of doing it with the boost pump sounds pretty good, actually. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying Conti, Rick wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > > Flying RV-10s, > > I have read that the trim motors run too fast for easy trim in level > flight. I have a speed controller I plan on wiring via a relay. The > speed controller will only be in the circuit when the fuel pump is off. > I want "regular" trim speed during the critical phases of flight > (takeoff & landing). However, do you think the speed is too fast even > for takeoff and landing? I have a second speed controller I can use if > that is the case. > > Also - what wire routing did you use for your tail nav and strobes (if > any)? My concern is where to enter the empennage. > > Thank You > Rick Conti > Senior Engineering Manager > The Boeing Company > office: 703 - 414 - 6141 > blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134 >


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    Time: 04:21:10 PM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Trim Speed & Tail Wire Run
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> My dad has never said anything about the trim speed being too fast. He seems very happy with it after 200 flying hours. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:34 PM Subject: RV10-List: Trim Speed & Tail Wire Run --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> Flying RV-10s, I have read that the trim motors run too fast for easy trim in level flight. I have a speed controller I plan on wiring via a relay. The speed controller will only be in the circuit when the fuel pump is off. I want "regular" trim speed during the critical phases of flight (takeoff & landing). However, do you think the speed is too fast even for takeoff and landing? I have a second speed controller I can use if that is the case. Also - what wire routing did you use for your tail nav and strobes (if any)? My concern is where to enter the empennage. Thank You Rick Conti Senior Engineering Manager The Boeing Company office: 703 - 414 - 6141 blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134


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    Time: 04:48:07 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Trim Speed & Tail Wire Run
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> It's not extreme if you just tap it. It actually isn't too bad. It's just at high speed, it takes a bit of tapping back and forth sometimes to get it just right. In addition, I had a spooky experience once where a notebook on my lap laid on the trim switch for nose-up trim. It only takes 1/2 second of the button being held down to give an EXTREME and immediate pitch up, when you're at cruise speed. If you're flying IFR and have charts, and stuff on your lap, you don't want anything hitting that trim button. Slowing down the trim a bit ... only during high speed operation, would not only make trimming it perfectly a little more precise, but would add some safety as well. It does not need to be slower at low speeds though...you'll want full speed trim at lower airspeeds. I don't think that this is necessarily a "gotta" do, but I think it's probably a good idea. Test it for yourself. Fly along at 140 KTS or so and hold the nose up trim for 1/2 second....then see what you think. I also think that if someone has no worries at all about it after doing the test, they should feel comfortable leaving it as-is. It's another builder-preference item, as are most all of them. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Jesse Saint wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> > > My dad has never said anything about the trim speed being too fast. He > seems very happy with it after 200 flying hours. > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > > I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of > May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check > from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at > 352-465-4545. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick > Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 3:34 PM > To: RV 10 > Subject: RV10-List: Trim Speed & Tail Wire Run > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > > Flying RV-10s, > > I have read that the trim motors run too fast for easy trim in level > flight. I have a speed controller I plan on wiring via a relay. The > speed controller will only be in the circuit when the fuel pump is off. > I want "regular" trim speed during the critical phases of flight > (takeoff & landing). However, do you think the speed is too fast even > for takeoff and landing? I have a second speed controller I can use if > that is the case. > > Also - what wire routing did you use for your tail nav and strobes (if > any)? My concern is where to enter the empennage. > > Thank You > Rick Conti > Senior Engineering Manager > The Boeing Company > office: 703 - 414 - 6141 > blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:02:19 PM PST US
    From: "Bill" <n2faith2@cs.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine choice - I made my mine
    RE: RV10-List: Engine choice - I made my mineI've been helped by a number of posts on this list and have yet to contribute. Here's my 2 cents..........I ordered my engine from BPA and, Rhonda tells me, it will be dyno'd this Fri or next Mon. When making my decision I was particularly impressed with Allens' response to my questions and, what I perceived as, his personal attention and interest. He helped me make decisions re ignition, injection and desired hp. I'm impressed with the way I was guided through the process and anxiously await delivery. Bill Stegemann #40423 fuse ----- Original Message ----- From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:44 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine choice - I made my mine I too am in the process of finalizing my engine purchase with BPA. Allen is a great guy and very knowledgeable when it comes to these engines. I have no doubt he will build me a top notch engine that he can stand behind. I know Aerosport is popular ,and plenty of people love their Aerosport engine, but I can't see sending my money out of the country when I can send it 300 or so miles away and support a local business that isn't any more expensive. Not to mention the possible import duties and dealing internationally if there is a dispute. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:03 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Engine choice - I made my mine --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> After getting a lot of input from the Matronics board, and talking off line to several people. I made my engine choice and today I placed my order with Allen Barrett of BPA Engines http://www.bpaengines.com/ . The timing of my decision was based on the price increase for the overhaul kits from Lycoming in 1 or 2 days. I already saw one price increase and want to avoid another. BPA is a respected engine builder they use the kit from Lycoming, similar to Aero Sport and Mattituck, only they do some extras eg. porting and flow matching, custom paint, dynamically balancing the rotating parts to a much=20stricter tolerance than others. (Others will do this but for extra fees).Then they do something unique, they run your engine on their dyno for 1 1/2 hours with a minute by minute printout that you get. Their attitude is that they believe this is the only way to build an engine and they won't build it otherwise. they'd rather let business go to other shops than build to a lower standard. I think that speaks tons to the mindset and attitude/culture that governs the way they operate. They also do Kirby Chamblis, and Patty Wagstaff's engines as well. Allen Barrett made a personal call to me to answer all of my questions and was extremely professional. As one person said "picking an engine is a painful experience" and each individual decision is governed by what is most important to that person. In this case BPA met my criteria and I'm happy with the decision. Thanks again to all who contributed knowledge and information to this process Deems Davis # 406 Fuse http://deemsrv10.com/ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RV10-List Email Forum - more: bsp; ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D bsp; - List Contribution Web Site - bsp; -Matt Dralle, List Admin. ">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


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    Time: 07:40:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Engine questions - Price increase
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    The reason sited "off record" was the astronomical multi-million dollar (jury)settlement granted the plaintiff in the crankshaft litigation. The cost is being equitably passed through to those who use the product. We are getting all that the best legal system in the world can provide. Product liability can only do so much, that is why we are building Experimental and not buying Certified. Tort is such a great concept. John $00.02 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 8:50 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine questions - Price increase --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Does anyone know whether this price increase is just on engines being sent to engine shops or does this price increase also involve the certified versions from Lyco. It seems that when you have a monopoly on the market, you can charge whatever you want. Is it really a $3K-$4K price increase? What was the reason cited...lack of competition!


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    Time: 07:46:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Wiring Diagram Software
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Dan you might have tried sending it direct to Jesse rather than world wide. No yelling needed. John ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:38 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wiring Diagram Software I know I am going to get yelled at for this, but seeing how you are way down south here is the PDF of the wiring harness, it is 1.4mg, so should not be too bad for the dialup guys. Sorry before hand, but want to help a fellow RV'r out. Dan Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:08 AM Subject: RV10-List: Wiring Diagram Software Does anybody know of a free CAD program that can import the wiring diagrams from AeroElectric.com and edit them? Still needing the Van's wiring diagram as well, if anybody has it. Do not archive Thanks. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org> I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545.


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    Time: 07:48:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Engine choice - I made my mine
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Wise Choice, great people, exceptional support. Hearing of your prop decision will be another milestone. John - KUAO -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: Engine choice - I made my mine --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> After getting a lot of input from the Matronics board, and talking off line to several people. I made my engine choice and today I placed my order with Allen Barrett of BPA Engines http://www.bpaengines.com/ . The timing of my decision was based on the price increase for the overhaul kits from Lycoming in 1 or 2 days. I already saw one price increase and want to avoid another. BPA is a respected engine builder they use the kit from Lycoming, similar to Aero Sport and Mattituck, only they do some extras eg. porting and flow matching, custom paint, dynamically balancing the rotating parts to a much stricter tolerance than others. (Others will do this but for extra fees).Then they do something unique, they run your engine on their dyno for 1 1/2 hours with a minute by minute printout that you get. Their attitude is that they believe this is the only way to build an engine and they won't build it otherwise. they'd rather let business go to other shops than build to a lower standard. I think that speaks tons to the mindset and attitude/culture that governs the way they operate. They also do Kirby Chamblis, and Patty Wagstaff's engines as well. Allen Barrett made a personal call to me to answer all of my questions and was extremely professional. As one person said "picking an engine is a painful experience" and each individual decision is governed by what is most important to that person. In this case BPA met my criteria and I'm happy with the decision. Thanks again to all who contributed knowledge and information to this process Deems Davis # 406 Fuse http://deemsrv10.com/


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    Time: 08:25:17 PM PST US
    From: "Jeff Dalton" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Wiring Diagram Software
    I really thought it was great info - if he had sent it directly none of us would have known about it. ----- Original Message ----- From: John W. Cox To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wiring Diagram Software Dan you might have tried sending it direct to Jesse rather than world wide. No yelling needed. John From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:38 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wiring Diagram Software I know I am going to get yelled at for this, but seeing how you are way down south here is the PDF of the wiring harness, it is 1.4mg, so should not be too bad for the dialup guys. Sorry before hand, but want to help a fellow RV'r out. Dan Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:08 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Wiring Diagram Software Does anybody know of a free CAD program that can import the wiring diagrams from AeroElectric.com and edit them? Still needing the Van's wiring diagram as well, if anybody has it. Do not archive Thanks. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545.


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    Time: 08:43:47 PM PST US
    From: Kevin Echols <kmechols@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Trim Speed & Tail Wire Run
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Kevin Echols <kmechols@yahoo.com> I have no personal experience with this product but do find it interesting. They suggest using a flap position sensor to determine high vs. low speed, but it would seem easy to use your idea of the fuel pump switch too. http://www.f1-rocketboy.com/tcm.html -Kevin > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com> > > > > Flying RV-10s, > > > > I have read that the trim motors run too fast for easy trim in level > > flight. I have a speed controller I plan on wiring via a relay. The > > speed controller will only be in the circuit when the fuel pump is off. > > I want "regular" trim speed during the critical phases of flight > > (takeoff & landing). However, do you think the speed is too fast even > > for takeoff and landing? I have a second speed controller I can use if > > that is the case. > >


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    Time: 10:38:14 PM PST US
    From: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Wiring Diagram Software
    If dan had replied directly, I may not have known of, or benefited from his efforts of scanning the electrical prints. I have found them tremendously helpful in planning at my stage of construction. Thanks for risking life and limb and posting. Steven DiNieri 40205 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:46 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wiring Diagram Software Dan you might have tried sending it direct to Jesse rather than world wide. No yelling needed. John


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    Time: 10:56:00 PM PST US
    From: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Wiring Diagram Software
    No yelling from me. Couldn't have been posted at a better time :-) John 40315 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Dalton To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wiring Diagram Software I really thought it was great info - if he had sent it directly none of us would have known about it. ----- Original Message ----- From: John W. Cox To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:45 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wiring Diagram Software Dan you might have tried sending it direct to Jesse rather than world wide. No yelling needed. John From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:38 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wiring Diagram Software I know I am going to get yelled at for this, but seeing how you are way down south here is the PDF of the wiring harness, it is 1.4mg, so should not be too bad for the dialup guys. Sorry before hand, but want to help a fellow RV'r out. Dan Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:08 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Wiring Diagram Software Does anybody know of a free CAD program that can import the wiring diagrams from AeroElectric.com and edit them? Still needing the Van's wiring diagram as well, if anybody has it. Do not archive Thanks. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545.




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