RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 03/17/06


Total Messages Posted: 20



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     1. 03:58 AM - Re: Re: Antenna Spacing (rob kermanj)
     2. 04:02 AM - Re: Wires in the tunnel (rob kermanj)
     3. 06:18 AM - Panel thickness (Sam Marlow)
     4. 08:21 AM - Hugo rv10 insurance ()
     5. 08:24 AM - Re: Wires in the tunnel (Jesse Saint)
     6. 08:31 AM - Re: Panel thickness (Jesse Saint)
     7. 08:48 AM - Re: Hugo rv10 insurance (Bobby J. Hughes)
     8. 09:02 AM - Re: Wires in the tunnel (David McNeill)
     9. 09:08 AM - AOA Provisions for Installation (Jeff Carpenter)
    10. 09:58 AM - Re: AOA Provisions for Installation (Rene Felker)
    11. 11:01 AM - Re: AOA Provisions for Installation (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    12. 01:38 PM - Re: AOA Provisions for Installation (zackrv8)
    13. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: AOA Provisions for Installation (John Jessen)
    14. 02:54 PM - Re: Re: AOA Provisions for Installation (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    15. 03:14 PM - Re: Re: AOA Provisions for Installation (Rene Felker)
    16. 03:59 PM - engines (David McNeill)
    17. 04:00 PM - engines (David McNeill)
    18. 04:58 PM - Re: engines (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    19. 06:19 PM - Re: engines (David McNeill)
    20. 07:22 PM - Re: Panel thickness (Sam Marlow)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:58:59 AM PST US
    From: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: Antenna Spacing
    This is the arrangement I have on my RV6 and now the 10. I have not detected any problems with the 6. do not archive rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Mar 16, 2006, at 6:39 PM, Jesse Saint wrote: > I am going for the transponder on the belly as far forward as I can > in the tunnel, then the COM=92s under the pilot and co-pilot seats. > I haven=92t measured yet, but that would be great if the distance is > long enough. I am just going to have to deal with the trouble of > getting around the other stuff there, and make sure to stay away > from the controls. > > > Do not archive. > > > Jesse Saint > > I-TEC, Inc. > > jesse@itecusa.org > > www.itecusa.org > > > I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the > end of May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message > that I can check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be > directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545. > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf OfWilliam > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 5:29 PM > To: RV10-List@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: RE: Antenna Spacing > > > >Underneath the right front seat works pretty well for > >transponder antenna . . . > > Those are microwaves! The aircraft skin is probably enough > shielding but I'll move mine a bit further forward in the tunnel > between the exhaust and away from passenger butts. > > > William Curtis > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ > >


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    Time: 04:02:03 AM PST US
    From: rob kermanj <rv10es@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Wires in the tunnel
    If you ever have to trouble shoot fuel leaks or clean your fuel filter, it might be a mess to remove the heater hoses for access. I tied mine to the fuel vent line. I wish that I have a better solution for it. Do not archive. rob kermanj rv10es@earthlink.net On Mar 16, 2006, at 9:31 PM, Marcus Cooper wrote: > The antenna spacing thread got me thinking about wiring again. I > know people are concerned (rightfully so) about running wires in > the tunnel in an effort to avoid any potential conflict with the > controls. I was wondering though, if you tied the wiring to the > heater hose it would keep it all safe and secure, well away from > the controls. Any snags with this train of though? > > > Thanks, > > Marcus > > 40286 > > > Do Not Archive > >


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    Time: 06:18:22 AM PST US
    From: Sam Marlow <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Panel thickness
    Has anyone added structural members to there instrument paned? Maybe it's just me, but after adding a proposed full complement of IFR instruments and radios, it seams a bit unstable. Looks like it needs more support in the center area. Sam Fuse


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    Time: 08:21:42 AM PST US
    From: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Hugo rv10 insurance
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net> Does any body have the builders risk insurance,any tip where to call and how much to pay. Thanks in advance. Hugo N741TZ res.


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    Time: 08:24:51 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Wires in the tunnel
    If you had a good way to hold them in place, out of the way of the controls, there shouldn't be any reason that wouldn't work. The main problem is that you have the pushrods and the rudder cables in there. The rods move up and down and the rudder cables may have some slack in them from time to time, especially when the plane is not flying, and you don't want that to rub your cables. We are trying to avoid the tunnel as much as possible. Do not archive Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> jesse@itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org> www.itecusa.org I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:32 PM Subject: RV10-List: Wires in the tunnel The antenna spacing thread got me thinking about wiring again. I know people are concerned (rightfully so) about running wires in the tunnel in an effort to avoid any potential conflict with the controls. I was wondering though, if you tied the wiring to the heater hose it would keep it all safe and secure, well away from the controls. Any snags with this train of though? Thanks, Marcus 40286 Do Not Archive


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    Time: 08:31:11 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Panel thickness
    I am cutting a hole in the subpanel and rimming it with angle like the plans suggest. Then I am going to support the back of the radio stack from there as well. I know some people like to put in stiffeners and then cut the panel to allow it to be removed in pieces instead of the whole panel at once. Angle or thick stock like the panel itself would probably do the trick there. I think finding a way to help support the heavy instruments behind the panel is probably the best way to relieve stress on the panel. With all that leverage, it would probably be lighter to do it this way as well. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> jesse@itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org> www.itecusa.org I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:16 AM Subject: RV10-List: Panel thickness Has anyone added structural members to there instrument paned? Maybe it's just me, but after adding a proposed full complement of IFR instruments and radios, it seams a bit unstable. Looks like it needs more support in the center area. Sam Fuse


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    Time: 08:48:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Hugo rv10 insurance
    From: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net> http://www.skysmith.com/ Great folks. Bobby Hughes 40116 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gommone7@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:18 AM Subject: RV10-List: Hugo rv10 insurance --> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net> Does any body have the builders risk insurance,any tip where to call and how much to pay. Thanks in advance. Hugo N741TZ res.


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    Time: 09:02:43 AM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Wires in the tunnel
    The only required wires in the tunnel are floscan, boost pump and flaps; the rest of the wiring should probably go down the sides where sufficient lightening holes already exist. Also, fastening the wiring to the aft heater hose may not be a good idea given that the hose will get hot and eventually make the wiring insulation brittle. I would not want potential shorts in areas that have flammable liquids in the lines. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Saint To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:23 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wires in the tunnel If you had a good way to hold them in place, out of the way of the controls, there shouldn't be any reason that wouldn't work. The main problem is that you have the pushrods and the rudder cables in there. The rods move up and down and the rudder cables may have some slack in them from time to time, especially when the plane is not flying, and you don't want that to rub your cables. We are trying to avoid the tunnel as much as possible. Do not archive Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545. From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:32 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Wires in the tunnel The antenna spacing thread got me thinking about wiring again. I know people are concerned (rightfully so) about running wires in the tunnel in an effort to avoid any potential conflict with the controls. I was wondering though, if you tied the wiring to the heater hose it would keep it all safe and secure, well away from the controls. Any snags with this train of though? Thanks, Marcus 40286 Do Not Archive


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    Time: 09:08:49 AM PST US
    From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
    Subject: AOA Provisions for Installation
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com> Builders, I'm at the point in the construction of the outboard leading edge where I have to decide if I'm going to install the conventional stall warning device. Can anyone explain how the Angle of Attack indicator works and what provisions have to made for it's installation. Thank you, Jeff Carpenter 40304 N410CF


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    Time: 09:58:54 AM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: AOA Provisions for Installation
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> I did both, but because of the placement of the ports feel that you can wait on making the AOA decision until later, so you have time to do some research on the AOA. Here is my 1 minute explanation of my understanding. The AOA uses two ports, one to top of the wing and one on the bottom of the wing to sense local pressure. From these measurements, the AOA calculates the angle of attack of the wing and thus gives you an indication of how close you are to stalling. Rene' Felker -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 10:07 AM Subject: RV10-List: AOA Provisions for Installation --> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com> Builders, I'm at the point in the construction of the outboard leading edge where I have to decide if I'm going to install the conventional stall warning device. Can anyone explain how the Angle of Attack indicator works and what provisions have to made for it's installation. Thank you, Jeff Carpenter 40304 N410CF


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    Time: 11:01:49 AM PST US
    Subject: AOA Provisions for Installation
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Basically it uses differential pressure to calculate AoA. You can get more info from here: http://advanced-control-systems.com/AOAfaqs/aoafaqs.htm. Also, you can get the wing kit for $400 so you can install that now and decide on which system later assuming you go with Rob Hickman's. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:07 AM Subject: RV10-List: AOA Provisions for Installation --> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com> Builders, I'm at the point in the construction of the outboard leading edge where I have to decide if I'm going to install the conventional stall warning device. Can anyone explain how the Angle of Attack indicator works and what provisions have to made for it's installation. Thank you, Jeff Carpenter 40304 N410CF =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


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    Time: 01:38:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: AOA Provisions for Installation
    From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> Jeff, The stall warning that Vans supplies is very basic. I wanted something better. The AOA system is much better. As you know, a wing only stalls when it exceeds it's critical angle of attack. An aircraft can be stalled at any speed and weight. The AOA will give you plenty of warning when approaching a stall whereas the stall warning horn that is supplied in the kit gives you a warning too close to a stall. Remember, you will be hauling up to 4 people in your 10 so why not protect yourself and your passengers a little better? As you know, your stall speed changes with gross weight and CG loading. The AOA guage takes this into account and might just save your pink a$$ someday. AOA is not for everyone. If you never used it, you probably won't see the need to fork out $1500 for one. However, If you have used one, and understand how it works....then it's hard to be without one. My 10 will have the AOA Pro installed. I just installed the ports in the leading edge yesterday. Piece of cake. The tiny pin holes that you put in the wing look a lot better than that piece of metal sticking out of the leading edge. Zack -------- RV8 #80125 RV10 # 40512 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=22409#22409


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    Time: 02:12:53 PM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Re: AOA Provisions for Installation
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> One question that was raised in my mind one or two posts back was: Is there any good reason to have both? John Jessen ~328 (empennage) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zackrv8 Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: AOA Provisions for Installation --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> Jeff, The stall warning that Vans supplies is very basic. I wanted something better. The AOA system is much better. As you know, a wing only stalls when it exceeds it's critical angle of attack. An aircraft can be stalled at any speed and weight. The AOA will give you plenty of warning when approaching a stall whereas the stall warning horn that is supplied in the kit gives you a warning too close to a stall. Remember, you will be hauling up to 4 people in your 10 so why not protect yourself and your passengers a little better? As you know, your stall speed changes with gross weight and CG loading. The AOA guage takes this into account and might just save your pink a$$ someday. AOA is not for everyone. If you never used it, you probably won't see the need to fork out $1500 for one. However, If you have used one, and understand how it works....then it's hard to be without one. My 10 will have the AOA Pro installed. I just installed the ports in the leading edge yesterday. Piece of cake. The tiny pin holes that you put in the wing look a lot better than that piece of metal sticking out of the leading edge. Zack -------- RV8 #80125 RV10 # 40512 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=22409#22409


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    Time: 02:54:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: AOA Provisions for Installation
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Probably a personal preference. Rob is supposed to have a profile for the RV-10 and will load it prior to shipping. You will still want to calibrate it to your aircraft when you fly though. Anyway my point is the only reason I can think of to have both is when you are calibrating the AoA. Other than that the AoA should satisfy the regs as a stall warning device. I decided to not put in the Van's tab and riveted the two holes shut. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 4:08 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: AOA Provisions for Installation --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> One question that was raised in my mind one or two posts back was: Is there any good reason to have both? John Jessen ~328 (empennage) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zackrv8 Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: AOA Provisions for Installation --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> Jeff, The stall warning that Vans supplies is very basic. I wanted something better. The AOA system is much better. As you know, a wing only stalls when it exceeds it's critical angle of attack. An aircraft can be stalled at any speed and weight. The AOA will give you plenty of warning when approaching a stall whereas the stall warning horn that is supplied in the kit gives you a warning too close to a stall. Remember, you will be hauling up to 4 people in your 10 so why not protect yourself and your passengers a little better? As you know, your stall speed changes with gross weight and CG loading. The AOA guage takes this into account and might just save your pink a$$ someday. AOA is not for everyone. If you never used it, you probably won't see the need to fork out $1500 for one. However, If you have used one, and understand how it works....then it's hard to be without one. My 10 will have the AOA Pro installed. I just installed the ports in the leading edge yesterday. Piece of cake. The tiny pin holes that you put in the wing look a lot better than that piece of metal sticking out of the leading edge. Zack -------- RV8 #80125 RV10 # 40512 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D22409#22409 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D


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    Time: 03:14:13 PM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: Re: AOA Provisions for Installation
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> My reasoning for two systems was simple, the Vans stall warning is simple, mostly mechanical and easily tested during preflight. Where the AOA is a much better "energy reserve" indicator, but more complicated and thus I would think it was more susceptible to failure. Thus the vans stall warning is a low tech backup. Rene' Felker -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 3:08 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: AOA Provisions for Installation --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> One question that was raised in my mind one or two posts back was: Is there any good reason to have both? John Jessen ~328 (empennage) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zackrv8 Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 4:35 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: AOA Provisions for Installation --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> Jeff, The stall warning that Vans supplies is very basic. I wanted something better. The AOA system is much better. As you know, a wing only stalls when it exceeds it's critical angle of attack. An aircraft can be stalled at any speed and weight. The AOA will give you plenty of warning when approaching a stall whereas the stall warning horn that is supplied in the kit gives you a warning too close to a stall. Remember, you will be hauling up to 4 people in your 10 so why not protect yourself and your passengers a little better? As you know, your stall speed changes with gross weight and CG loading. The AOA guage takes this into account and might just save your pink a$$ someday. AOA is not for everyone. If you never used it, you probably won't see the need to fork out $1500 for one. However, If you have used one, and understand how it works....then it's hard to be without one. My 10 will have the AOA Pro installed. I just installed the ports in the leading edge yesterday. Piece of cake. The tiny pin holes that you put in the wing look a lot better than that piece of metal sticking out of the leading edge. Zack -------- RV8 #80125 RV10 # 40512 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=22409#22409


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    Time: 03:59:21 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: engines
    RE: RV10-List: Re: AOA Provisions for InstallationJust got another reason to be glad I bought the IO540 from Vans. Service Bulletin 659 arrived to day referring to the 50 pages of crankshafts that need to be replaced. New engines, overhauls, etc from about 1997 to present. The key is that there are only about 20 engine serials for the D4A5 on the list and mine wasn't there.


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    Time: 04:00:11 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: engines
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net> Correction that is SB 569...


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    Time: 04:58:02 PM PST US
    Subject: engines
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Not sure what the advantage of getting the engine from Van's is with this. Care to elaborate? Michael do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 5:55 PM Subject: RV10-List: engines Just got another reason to be glad I bought the IO540 from Vans. Service Bulletin 659 arrived to day referring to the 50 pages of crankshafts that need to be replaced. New engines, overhauls, etc from about 1997 to present. The key is that there are only about 20 engine serials for the D4A5 on the list and mine wasn't there.


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    Time: 06:19:51 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: engines
    RE: RV10-List: Re: AOA Provisions for InstallationPrimarily the D4A5 variant; There were 15 pages at 145 per page of IO540s but only 20 D4A5s. Also I would expect that if the new IO540 had a bad crank it would still be in warranty and could be shipped back to them for the mandatory Service Bulletin. Engines in the field which have the data plate on them must still comply within the three years; while truly experimentals (without a data plate) can do whatever they like. It will be an unknown if/until something happens to the engine. The second reason is that no engineering work/mods are needed to make the kit work. On my Glastar they sold an engine that had not been installed in one of their airplanes. I bought a new O360A4M and then had to do the fiberglass work to reshape the cowl because the engine is 1/2" wide than the one they installed at the factory. Or if you observe Glastar cowls at the flyins, you can tell which have the particular engine installed. Either the cowl has been reshaped or there is a wart on the left side of the upper cowl where the #2 cylinder rocker cover rests and delivers its heat treatment In short using the same engine variant as the prototype makes for an easier install; installing a new engine eliminates a few more of the variables to consider for first flight. Bells and whistles can be added later but with 260 HP lifting a gross weight of 2700 its a question whether they will be needed or desired. Just my $.02 Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 5:56 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: engines Not sure what the advantage of getting the engine from Van's is with this. Care to elaborate? Michael do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 5:55 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: engines Just got another reason to be glad I bought the IO540 from Vans. Service Bulletin 659 arrived to day referring to the 50 pages of crankshafts that need to be replaced. New engines, overhauls, etc from about 1997 to present. The key is that there are only about 20 engine serials for the D4A5 on the list and mine wasn't there.


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    Time: 07:22:13 PM PST US
    From: Sam Marlow <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Panel thickness
    That's what I was thinking, maybe a brace to the radio stack. Jesse Saint wrote: > I am cutting a hole in the subpanel and rimming it with angle like the > plans suggest. Then I am going to support the back of the radio stack > from there as well. I know some people like to put in stiffeners and > then cut the panel to allow it to be removed in pieces instead of the > whole panel at once. Angle or thick stock like the panel itself would > probably do the trick there. I think finding a way to help support > the heavy instruments behind the panel is probably the best way to > relieve stress on the panel. With all that leverage, it would > probably be lighter to do it this way as well. > > > > Jesse Saint > > I-TEC, Inc. > > jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> > > www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org> > > > > I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end > of May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I > can check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the > I-TEC office at 352-465-4545. > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:16 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Panel thickness > > > > Has anyone added structural members to there instrument paned? Maybe > it's just me, but after adding a proposed full complement of IFR > instruments and radios, it seams a bit unstable. Looks like it needs > more support in the center area. > Sam > Fuse >




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