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1. 05:09 AM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
2. 05:37 AM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (Tim Olson)
3. 05:58 AM - Re: Tow Bar (Wayne Edgerton)
4. 06:02 AM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (James Hein)
5. 06:11 AM - Re: Tow Bar (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 06:25 AM - Re: Door Handles (was Tow Bar) (Larry Rosen)
7. 07:33 AM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 08:04 AM - Re: Tow Bar (Marcus Cooper)
9. 09:13 AM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (John W. Cox)
10. 10:04 AM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
11. 10:21 AM - Builder Names - Off topic (John Jessen)
12. 10:50 AM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (David McNeill)
13. 11:33 AM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (Tim Olson)
14. 11:33 AM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (Tim Olson)
15. 11:33 AM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (SteinAir, Inc.)
16. 12:01 PM - Re: Builder Names - Off topic ()
17. 12:36 PM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (Larry Rosen)
18. 02:52 PM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (John W. Cox)
19. 02:52 PM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (John W. Cox)
20. 03:04 PM - Re: Chelton SV-10 (Tim Olson)
21. 03:12 PM - Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine (Cory Emberson)
22. 03:33 PM - Re: Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine (Larry Rosen)
23. 03:35 PM - Re: Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
24. 03:43 PM - Re: Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine (Cory Emberson)
25. 03:46 PM - Re: Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine (Cory Emberson)
26. 05:35 PM - Cruise Performance? (Marcus Cooper)
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Yep, same price they give me. Really annoying when they try to make something
look like one price and it really isn't. Just call it 26,900 and be done with
it rather than looking like you are trying to pull something. Personally I
would much rather see them drop the price $2000 and skip the harness or at least
add it as an option instead of part of the kit. Now if they would just fix
the PDF so it can be printed and I can show it to the CFO.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
If he gave you a specific dollar, your number may be better than mine.
What he told me, word for word, was "A little over $26,000". It
would seem to me that $26,900 is more like "A little under $27,000".
But I didn't get a specific dollar amount like you. One thing that builders will
definitely want to put their thought into is do they want to build a harness
or buy? IMHO, I'd rather build one, except for the screen interconnects...having
done just that in the past I can't see it being good for my personal experience
any other way. But, I'm good with a crimper and soldering iron.
For some builders they may really want/need that prebuilt harness if they are to
be successful. The harnesses aren't hard to make, just tedious.
Tim
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Bob Newman wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com>
>
> Tim, I had a long discussion with Josh at Direct 2 and I'm almost
> certain he said the price is going to be $26,900.
>
> Bob
>
>>>> Tim@MyRV10.com 3/24/2006 8:44:46 AM >>>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> It's going to be right around $26,000.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Jesse Saint wrote:
>> Anyone know the price for the whole shebang?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>>
>> I-TEC, Inc.
>>
>> jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
>>
>> www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end
> of
>> May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can
>
>> check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the
> I-TEC
>> office at 352-465-4545.
>>
>>
> --
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Indran
>> Chelvanayagam
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:14 AM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone seen the info on Direct to Avionics website about the "new"
>> Chelton SV-10? It appears to be a dual screen setup, with a wiring
>> harness that claims to be complete - ie strobes, autopilot servoes,
>> trim, pitot heat etc. This sounds like a better harness than Van's
> basic
>> offering.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.d2av.com/pdfs/SV-10.pdf
>>
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>>
>> Indran Chelvanayagam
>>
>> 40228
>>
>> Finish Kit arrived yesterday - the beginning of the end?
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Chelton SV-10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I did contact them yesterday to see why they told me one thing
but apparently meant another. I was kind of irritated that I'd
look stupid for passing on something in that regards. I found out
though that they hadn't set the price yet at the time I heard it,
which was only a couple days ago. I think they were waiting for
some final pricing info to come back from a supplier (maybe the
harness or something) so they were hoping for just over $26, but
ended up being a little higher. So it was an understandable mistake.
Considering that they sell units without harnesses that aren't
made for the RV-10, you should consider calling them directly
and asking them how much the price would be if you cut the
harness out of it, and then just to get the other scenario out of
the way, ask them how much if you get just the interconnect harness,
which is the only one I'd get anyway. It might not be exactly
the same price reduction from the package as if you were adding
the harness to a non-RV-10 system, but I'd think you would get
a fair price reduction. I've found them pretty good to work
with.
I don't know what you mean about the .pdf (I didn't try to print it)
but they did fix that phone number pronto when I got on them
yesterday as well. They're actually pretty nice guys there, so
if you have complaints make sure you pass them on to them. Customer
feedback is valuable, and it helps build good relationships when
they acknowledge issues....and from a customer standpoint, you're
helping by being part of the solution.
Tim
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> Yep, same price they give me. Really annoying when they try to make
> something look like one price and it really isn't. Just call it 26,900
> and be done with it rather than looking like you are trying to pull
> something. Personally I would much rather see them drop the price $2000
> and skip the harness or at least add it as an option instead of part of
> the kit. Now if they would just fix the PDF so it can be printed and I
> can show it to the CFO.
>
>
> Michael Sausen
> RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:00 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> If he gave you a specific dollar, your number may be better than mine.
> What he told me, word for word, was "A little over $26,000". It
> would seem to me that $26,900 is more like "A little under $27,000".
> But I didn't get a specific dollar amount like you. One thing that
> builders will definitely want to put their thought into is do they want
> to build a harness or buy? IMHO, I'd rather build one, except for the
> screen interconnects...having done just that in the past I can't see it
> being good for my personal experience any other way. But, I'm good with
> a crimper and soldering iron.
> For some builders they may really want/need that prebuilt harness if
> they are to be successful. The harnesses aren't hard to make, just tedious.
> Tim
>
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Bob Newman wrote:
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com>
> >
> > Tim, I had a long discussion with Josh at Direct 2 and I'm almost
> > certain he said the price is going to be $26,900.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >>>> Tim@MyRV10.com 3/24/2006 8:44:46 AM >>>
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> >
> > It's going to be right around $26,000.
> >
> > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > Jesse Saint wrote:
> >> Anyone know the price for the whole shebang?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jesse Saint
> >>
> >> I-TEC, Inc.
> >>
> >> jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
> >>
> >> www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end
> > of
> >> May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can
> >
> >> check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the
> > I-TEC
> >> office at 352-465-4545.
> >>
> >>
> > --
> >> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Indran
> >> Chelvanayagam
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:14 AM
> >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> >> *Subject:* RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyone seen the info on Direct to Avionics website about the "new"
> >> Chelton SV-10? It appears to be a dual screen setup, with a wiring
> >> harness that claims to be complete - ie strobes, autopilot servoes,
> >> trim, pitot heat etc. This sounds like a better harness than Van's
> > basic
> >> offering.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.d2av.com/pdfs/SV-10.pdf
> >>
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> >> Indran Chelvanayagam
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> >> 40228
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If I'm not mistaken, Coss Aviation, who is in South Africa, has built one for the RV10. They will be at Sun-N-Fun. They are the ones who are building the flush mounted door handles, which I bought. www.cossaviation.com
Wayne Edgerton
#40336
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| Subject: | Re: Chelton SV-10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
The PDF is a SINGLE page 8.5" wide by 44" long. I can't find that paper
anywhere! :)
They just forgot to split it into 4 pages; Unless you have the full
blown version of Acrobat (not the reader) you can't get it to print nicely.
-Jim 40384
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I did contact them yesterday to see why they told me one thing
> but apparently meant another. I was kind of irritated that I'd
> look stupid for passing on something in that regards. I found out
> though that they hadn't set the price yet at the time I heard it,
> which was only a couple days ago. I think they were waiting for
> some final pricing info to come back from a supplier (maybe the
> harness or something) so they were hoping for just over $26, but
> ended up being a little higher. So it was an understandable mistake.
>
> Considering that they sell units without harnesses that aren't
> made for the RV-10, you should consider calling them directly
> and asking them how much the price would be if you cut the
> harness out of it, and then just to get the other scenario out of
> the way, ask them how much if you get just the interconnect harness,
> which is the only one I'd get anyway. It might not be exactly
> the same price reduction from the package as if you were adding
> the harness to a non-RV-10 system, but I'd think you would get
> a fair price reduction. I've found them pretty good to work
> with.
>
> I don't know what you mean about the .pdf (I didn't try to print it)
> but they did fix that phone number pronto when I got on them
> yesterday as well. They're actually pretty nice guys there, so
> if you have complaints make sure you pass them on to them. Customer
> feedback is valuable, and it helps build good relationships when
> they acknowledge issues....and from a customer standpoint, you're
> helping by being part of the solution.
>
> Tim
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>
>> Yep, same price they give me. Really annoying when they try to make
>> something look like one price and it really isn't. Just call it
>> 26,900 and be done with it rather than looking like you are trying to
>> pull something. Personally I would much rather see them drop the
>> price $2000 and skip the harness or at least add it as an option
>> instead of part of the kit. Now if they would just fix the PDF so it
>> can be printed and I can show it to the CFO.
>>
>>
>> Michael Sausen
>> RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:00 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> If he gave you a specific dollar, your number may be better than mine.
>> What he told me, word for word, was "A little over $26,000". It
>> would seem to me that $26,900 is more like "A little under $27,000".
>> But I didn't get a specific dollar amount like you. One thing that
>> builders will definitely want to put their thought into is do they
>> want to build a harness or buy? IMHO, I'd rather build one, except
>> for the screen interconnects...having done just that in the past I
>> can't see it being good for my personal experience any other way.
>> But, I'm good with a crimper and soldering iron.
>> For some builders they may really want/need that prebuilt harness if
>> they are to be successful. The harnesses aren't hard to make, just
>> tedious.
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Bob Newman wrote:
>> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com>
>> >
>> > Tim, I had a long discussion with Josh at Direct 2 and I'm almost
>> > certain he said the price is going to be $26,900. >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> >>>> Tim@MyRV10.com 3/24/2006 8:44:46 AM >>>
>> > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> >
>> > It's going to be right around $26,000.
>> >
>> > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> > do not archive
>> >
>> >
>> > Jesse Saint wrote:
>> >> Anyone know the price for the whole shebang?
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> Jesse Saint
>> >>
>> >> I-TEC, Inc.
>> >>
>> >> jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
>> >>
>> >> www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the
>> end
>> > of
>> >> May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can
>> >
>> >> check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the
>> > I-TEC
>> >> office at 352-465-4545.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> >> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Indran
>> >> Chelvanayagam
>> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:14 AM
>> >> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> >> *Subject:* RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> Anyone seen the info on Direct to Avionics website about the "new"
>> >> Chelton SV-10? It appears to be a dual screen setup, with a wiring
>> >> harness that claims to be complete - ie strobes, autopilot servoes,
>> >> trim, pitot heat etc. This sounds like a better harness than Van's
>> > basic
>> >> offering.
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> http://www.d2av.com/pdfs/SV-10.pdf
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> Indran Chelvanayagam
>> >>
>> >> 40228
>> >>
>> >> Finish Kit arrived yesterday - the beginning of the end?
>> >>
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Sure would be nice if they updated their website so you can see what they actually
have for the -10. Might want to mention it to them if you talk to them again.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tow Bar
If I'm not mistaken, Coss Aviation, who is in South Africa, has built one for the RV10. They will be at Sun-N-Fun. They are the ones who are building the flush mounted door handles, which I bought. www.cossaviation.com
Wayne Edgerton
#40336
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| Subject: | Re: Door Handles (was Tow Bar) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Not to bring up an subject that was throughly discussed a while back,
but....
Have you received the door handles yet? Have you installed them?
Any feed back would be appreciated because they are a big buck investment.
Larry Rosen
http://lrosen.nerv10.com
Wayne Edgerton wrote:
> If I'm not mistaken, Coss Aviation, who is in South Africa, has built
> one for the RV10. They will be at Sun-N-Fun. They are the ones who are
> building the flush mounted door handles, which I bought.
> www.cossaviation.com <http://www.cossaviation.com>
>
> Wayne Edgerton
>
> #40336
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I do have the full blown version, still can't get it to print. I might mess with
it and see if I can put in the breaks. Hmm, I wonder if I can get a discount
for fixing it commensurate with what my company bills me out at. ;-) I did
mention it to Josh and he said he didn't know how to fix it and didn't seem
too concerned.
Michael
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
--> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
The PDF is a SINGLE page 8.5" wide by 44" long. I can't find that paper anywhere!
:)
They just forgot to split it into 4 pages; Unless you have the full blown version
of Acrobat (not the reader) you can't get it to print nicely.
-Jim 40384
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Concur on wishing the website was more current. Anyone have a guess about
how much the RCA "Light Aluminum Towbar" is, or if the handle collapses to
fit in the baggage area? I could use one pretty quick, but if Coss Aviation
will be at Sun-N-Fun and the price is right I'll probably wait the 2 weeks.
It looks like a nice towbar, but a picture is all that's available on the
site.
Marcus
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 9:10 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tow Bar
Sure would be nice if they updated their website so you can see what they
actually have for the -10. Might want to mention it to them if you talk to
them again.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
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<http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=3D22> Recent RV-10
Build Activity
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tow Bar
If I'm not mistaken, Coss Aviation, who is in South Africa, has built one
for the RV10. They will be at Sun-N-Fun. They are the ones who are building
the flush mounted door handles, which I bought. www.cossaviation.com
Wayne Edgerton
#40336
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Here is a poor man's edit for the CFO of the Chelton Paper towel roll on
the SV-10. Safety and Appeal should stand the acid test. Price is
another, I would press for Tim's cable solution. Delete it and make it
an add for the solder and crimp impaired.
John $00.02
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:07 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
Yep, same price they give me. Really annoying when they try to make
something look like one price and it really isn't. Just call it 26,900
and be done with it rather than looking like you are trying to pull
something. Personally I would much rather see them drop the price $2000
and skip the harness or at least add it as an option instead of part of
the kit. Now if they would just fix the PDF so it can be printed and I
can show it to the CFO.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [
mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
If he gave you a specific dollar, your number may be better than mine.
What he told me, word for word, was "A little over $26,000". It
would seem to me that $26,900 is more like "A little under $27,000".
But I didn't get a specific dollar amount like you. One thing that
builders will definitely want to put their thought into is do they want
to build a harness or buy? IMHO, I'd rather build one, except for the
screen interconnects...having done just that in the past I can't see it
being good for my personal experience any other way. But, I'm good with
a crimper and soldering iron.
For some builders they may really want/need that prebuilt harness if
they are to be successful. The harnesses aren't hard to make, just
tedious.
Tim
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Bob Newman wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com>
>
> Tim, I had a long discussion with Josh at Direct 2 and I'm almost
> certain he said the price is going to be $26,900.
>
> Bob
>
>>>> Tim@MyRV10.com 3/24/2006 8:44:46 AM >>>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> It's going to be right around $26,000.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Jesse Saint wrote:
>> Anyone know the price for the whole shebang?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>>
>> I-TEC, Inc.
>>
>> jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
>>
>> www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end
> of
>> May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can
>
>> check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the
> I-TEC
>> office at 352-465-4545.
>>
>>
> --
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Indran
>> Chelvanayagam
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:14 AM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone seen the info on Direct to Avionics website about the "new"
>> Chelton SV-10? It appears to be a dual screen setup, with a wiring
>> harness that claims to be complete - ie strobes, autopilot servoes,
>> trim, pitot heat etc. This sounds like a better harness than Van's
> basic
>> offering.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.d2av.com/pdfs/SV-10.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> Indran Chelvanayagam
>>
>> 40228
>>
>> Finish Kit arrived yesterday - the beginning of the end?
>>
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Thanks John, I already re did the PDF and sent it to Josh to replace his. :-)
I agree on the harness deal and I'm betting there will be several others that
feel that way. I don't see it as a big selling point and more of a detraction
for the extra couple grand. As long as they are willing to work with the people
that don't want it it's no big deal.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
Here is a poor man's edit for the CFO of the Chelton Paper towel roll on the SV-10.
Safety and Appeal should stand the acid test. Price is another, I would
press for Tim's cable solution. Delete it and make it an add for the solder and
crimp impaired.
John $00.02
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:07 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
Yep, same price they give me. Really annoying when they try to make something
look like one price and it really isn't. Just call it 26,900 and be done with
it rather than looking like you are trying to pull something. Personally I
would much rather see them drop the price $2000 and skip the harness or at least
add it as an option instead of part of the kit. Now if they would just fix
the PDF so it can be printed and I can show it to the CFO.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
If he gave you a specific dollar, your number may be better than mine.
What he told me, word for word, was "A little over $26,000". It
would seem to me that $26,900 is more like "A little under $27,000".
But I didn't get a specific dollar amount like you. One thing that builders will
definitely want to put their thought into is do they want to build a harness
or buy? IMHO, I'd rather build one, except for the screen interconnects...having
done just that in the past I can't see it being good for my personal experience
any other way. But, I'm good with a crimper and soldering iron.
For some builders they may really want/need that prebuilt harness if they are to
be successful. The harnesses aren't hard to make, just tedious.
Tim
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Bob Newman wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com>
>
> Tim, I had a long discussion with Josh at Direct 2 and I'm almost
> certain he said the price is going to be $26,900.
>
> Bob
>
>>>> Tim@MyRV10.com 3/24/2006 8:44:46 AM >>>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> It's going to be right around $26,000.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Jesse Saint wrote:
>> Anyone know the price for the whole shebang?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>>
>> I-TEC, Inc.
>>
>> jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
>>
>> www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end
> of
>> May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can
>
>> check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the
> I-TEC
>> office at 352-465-4545.
>>
>>
> --
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Indran
>> Chelvanayagam
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:14 AM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone seen the info on Direct to Avionics website about the "new"
>> Chelton SV-10? It appears to be a dual screen setup, with a wiring
>> harness that claims to be complete - ie strobes, autopilot servoes,
>> trim, pitot heat etc. This sounds like a better harness than Van's
> basic
>> offering.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.d2av.com/pdfs/SV-10.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> Indran Chelvanayagam
>>
>> 40228
>>
>> Finish Kit arrived yesterday - the beginning of the end?
>>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Great! Keep em coming folks. Don't forget to put the following info (with
name, state, and kit #, hopefully, from everyone):
Name
State
Kit number
N number (if reserved)
Status (where you are in the build)
Link to web site, if one available
Link to email (if you want and if you don't have a web site).
A picture of you or your project
Give me only the information you want posted.
John Jessen
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-----Original Message-----
From: jim@combsfive.com [mailto:jim@combsfive.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:01 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Builder Names - Off topic
John,
I had my name on Frapper but it disappeared (??) As have quite a few others
in the Cincinnati area.
So here is my information.
I have no problem with it being available to RV-10 builders.
Jim Combs
Lexington, Kentucky
#40192
N312F
Thanks, Jim Combs
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| Subject: | Re: Chelton SV-10 |
RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10One thing you do want is the connector kit. Before
I convinced them that they needed to supply the sockets and high density dsubs
I looked at various supply houses and never found the sockets that were required.
----- Original Message -----
From: John W. Cox
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
Here is a poor man's edit for the CFO of the Chelton Paper towel roll on the
SV-10. Safety and Appeal should stand the acid test. Price is another, I would
press for Tim's cable solution. Delete it and make it an add for the solder
and crimp impaired.
John $00.02
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:07 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
Yep, same price they give me. Really annoying when they try to make something
look like one price and it really isn't. Just call it 26,900 and be done with
it rather than looking like you are trying to pull something. Personally
I would much rather see them drop the price $2000 and skip the harness or at least
add it as an option instead of part of the kit. Now if they would just fix
the PDF so it can be printed and I can show it to the CFO.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:00 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
If he gave you a specific dollar, your number may be better than mine.
What he told me, word for word, was "A little over $26,000". It
would seem to me that $26,900 is more like "A little under $27,000".
But I didn't get a specific dollar amount like you. One thing that builders
will definitely want to put their thought into is do they want to build a harness
or buy? IMHO, I'd rather build one, except for the screen interconnects...having
done just that in the past I can't see it being good for my personal experience
any other way. But, I'm good with a crimper and soldering iron.
For some builders they may really want/need that prebuilt harness if they are
to be successful. The harnesses aren't hard to make, just tedious.
Tim
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Bob Newman wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com>
>
> Tim, I had a long discussion with Josh at Direct 2 and I'm almost
> certain he said the price is going to be $26,900.
>
> Bob
>
>>>> Tim@MyRV10.com 3/24/2006 8:44:46 AM >>>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> It's going to be right around $26,000.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Jesse Saint wrote:
>> Anyone know the price for the whole shebang?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jesse Saint
>>
>> I-TEC, Inc.
>>
>> jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
>>
>> www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end
> of
>> May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can
>
>> check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the
> I-TEC
>> office at 352-465-4545.
>>
>>
> --
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Indran
>> Chelvanayagam
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:14 AM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone seen the info on Direct to Avionics website about the "new"
>> Chelton SV-10? It appears to be a dual screen setup, with a wiring
>> harness that claims to be complete - ie strobes, autopilot servoes,
>> trim, pitot heat etc. This sounds like a better harness than Van's
> basic
>> offering.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.d2av.com/pdfs/SV-10.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> Indran Chelvanayagam
>>
>> 40228
>>
>> Finish Kit arrived yesterday - the beginning of the end?
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Chelton SV-10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I bought the HD D-Sub's from Digikey in both the 62-pin and the other,
and got the pins from stein. I agree, you'll want them to at
least supply a connector kit unless you are willing to track them
down yourself.
That said, I have a bunch of extra D-Sub connectors and a pile of
round amp plastic connectors (was going to use them in the wing roots
but didn't), so if anyone gets in a pinch, I'd let you help deplete
my supply a bit.
Tim
David McNeill wrote:
> One thing you do want is the connector kit. Before I convinced them that
> they needed to supply the sockets and high density dsubs I looked at
> various supply houses and never found the sockets that were required.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John W. Cox <mailto:johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:09 AM
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>
> Here is a poor mans edit for the CFO of the Chelton Paper towel
> roll on the SV-10. Safety and Appeal should stand the acid test.
> Price is another, I would press for Tims cable solution. Delete it
> and make it an add for the solder and crimp impaired.
>
>
>
> John $00.02
>
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV
> Builder (Michael Sausen)
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:07 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>
>
>
> Yep, same price they give me. Really annoying when they try to
> make something look like one price and it really isn't. Just call
> it 26,900 and be done with it rather than looking like you are
> trying to pull something. Personally I would much rather see them
> drop the price $2000 and skip the harness or at least add it as an
> option instead of part of the kit. Now if they would just fix the
> PDF so it can be printed and I can show it to the CFO.
>
>
> Michael Sausen
> RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:00 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> If he gave you a specific dollar, your number may be better than mine.
> What he told me, word for word, was "A little over $26,000". It
> would seem to me that $26,900 is more like "A little under $27,000".
> But I didn't get a specific dollar amount like you. One thing that
> builders will definitely want to put their thought into is do they
> want to build a harness or buy? IMHO, I'd rather build one, except
> for the screen interconnects...having done just that in the past I
> can't see it being good for my personal experience any other way.
> But, I'm good with a crimper and soldering iron.
> For some builders they may really want/need that prebuilt harness if
> they are to be successful. The harnesses aren't hard to make, just
> tedious.
> Tim
>
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Bob Newman wrote:
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com>
> >
> > Tim, I had a long discussion with Josh at Direct 2 and I'm almost
> > certain he said the price is going to be $26,900.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > >>> Tim@MyRV10.com 3/24/2006 8:44:46 AM >>>
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> >
> > It's going to be right around $26,000.
> >
> > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > Jesse Saint wrote:
> > > Anyone know the price for the whole shebang?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jesse Saint
> > >
> > > I-TEC, Inc.
> > >
> > > jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
> > >
> > > www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end
> > of
> > > May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can
> >
> > > check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the
> > I-TEC
> > > office at 352-465-4545.
> > >
> > >
> > --
> > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Indran
> > > Chelvanayagam
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:14 AM
> > > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> > > *Subject:* RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone seen the info on Direct to Avionics website about the "new"
> > > Chelton SV-10? It appears to be a dual screen setup, with a wiring
> > > harness that claims to be complete - ie strobes, autopilot servoes,
> > > trim, pitot heat etc. This sounds like a better harness than Van's
> > basic
> > > offering.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.d2av.com/pdfs/SV-10.pdf
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Indran Chelvanayagam
> > >
> > > 40228
> > >
> > > Finish Kit arrived yesterday - the beginning of the end?
> > >
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Again though, I do think the interconnect harnesses are worth purchasing
if they were available. There's a lot of wires in them and the
manufactured ones are very nice. It's the long run ones and the
Big J1/J3's that would be nice to build.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> Thanks John, I already re did the PDF and sent it to Josh to replace
> his. :-) I agree on the harness deal and I'm betting there will be
> several others that feel that way. I don't see it as a big selling
> point and more of a detraction for the extra couple grand. As long as
> they are willing to work with the people that don't want it it's no big
> deal.
>
> Michael
> Do not archive
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John W. Cox
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:10 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>
> Here is a poor mans edit for the CFO of the Chelton Paper towel roll on
> the SV-10. Safety and Appeal should stand the acid test. Price is
> another, I would press for Tims cable solution. Delete it and make it
> an add for the solder and crimp impaired.
>
>
>
> John $00.02
>
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV Builder
> (Michael Sausen)
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:07 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>
>
>
> Yep, same price they give me. Really annoying when they try to make
> something look like one price and it really isn't. Just call it 26,900
> and be done with it rather than looking like you are trying to pull
> something. Personally I would much rather see them drop the price $2000
> and skip the harness or at least add it as an option instead of part of
> the kit. Now if they would just fix the PDF so it can be printed and I
> can show it to the CFO.
>
>
> Michael Sausen
> RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:00 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> If he gave you a specific dollar, your number may be better than mine.
> What he told me, word for word, was "A little over $26,000". It
> would seem to me that $26,900 is more like "A little under $27,000".
> But I didn't get a specific dollar amount like you. One thing that
> builders will definitely want to put their thought into is do they want
> to build a harness or buy? IMHO, I'd rather build one, except for the
> screen interconnects...having done just that in the past I can't see it
> being good for my personal experience any other way. But, I'm good with
> a crimper and soldering iron.
> For some builders they may really want/need that prebuilt harness if
> they are to be successful. The harnesses aren't hard to make, just tedious.
> Tim
>
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Bob Newman wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com>
>>
>> Tim, I had a long discussion with Josh at Direct 2 and I'm almost
>> certain he said the price is going to be $26,900.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> >>> Tim@MyRV10.com 3/24/2006 8:44:46 AM >>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> It's going to be right around $26,000.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Jesse Saint wrote:
>> > Anyone know the price for the whole shebang?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jesse Saint
>> >
>> > I-TEC, Inc.
>> >
>> > jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
>> >
>> > www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end
>> of
>> > May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can
>>
>> > check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the
>> I-TEC
>> > office at 352-465-4545.
>> >
>> >
>> --
>> > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Indran
>> > Chelvanayagam
>> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:14 AM
>> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> > *Subject:* RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Anyone seen the info on Direct to Avionics website about the "new"
>> > Chelton SV-10? It appears to be a dual screen setup, with a wiring
>> > harness that claims to be complete - ie strobes, autopilot servoes,
>> > trim, pitot heat etc. This sounds like a better harness than Van's
>> basic
>> > offering.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.d2av.com/pdfs/SV-10.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Indran Chelvanayagam
>> >
>> > 40228
>> >
>> > Finish Kit arrived yesterday - the beginning of the end?
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ====================================
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> more:
> bsp;
> ">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10We keep a bunch of them around just for purposes
like that. Both the Chelton, newer PSE stuff and a lot of Garmin stuff use
the high density pins & sockets, so they are almost a "must have item".
Being smaller than the regular density pins you'd think they'd be
cheaper....but they're not :)
Just an FYI.
Cheers,
Stein.
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:50 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
One thing you do want is the connector kit. Before I convinced them that
they needed to supply the sockets and high density dsubs I looked at various
supply houses and never found the sockets that were required.
----- Original Message -----
From: John W. Cox
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
Here is a poor mans edit for the CFO of the Chelton Paper towel roll on
the SV-10. Safety and Appeal should stand the acid test. Price is another,
I would press for Tims cable solution. Delete it and make it an add for
the solder and crimp impaired.
John $00.02
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--> RV10-List message posted by: <millstees@ameritech.net>
Name: Steve Mills
> State: Naperville, Illinois
> Kit number: 40486
> N number (if reserved) N750SM
> Status (where you are in the build) Starting fuel tanks (all Slo-Biuld)
> Link to web site, if one available www.StevesRV-10.Smugmug.com
> Link to email (if you want and if you don't have a web site).
millstees@ameritech.net
> A picture of you or your project: too shocking
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:19 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Builder Names - Off topic
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
>
> Great! Keep em coming folks. Don't forget to put the following info
(with
> name, state, and kit #, hopefully, from everyone):
>
> Name
> State
> Kit number
> N number (if reserved)
> Status (where you are in the build)
> Link to web site, if one available
> Link to email (if you want and if you don't have a web site).
> A picture of you or your project
>
> Give me only the information you want posted.
>
> John Jessen
>
> do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jim@combsfive.com [mailto:jim@combsfive.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:01 AM
> To: John Jessen
> Subject: RV10-List: Builder Names - Off topic
>
> John,
>
> I had my name on Frapper but it disappeared (??) As have quite a few
others
> in the Cincinnati area.
>
> So here is my information.
>
> I have no problem with it being available to RV-10 builders.
>
> Jim Combs
> Lexington, Kentucky
> #40192
> N312F
>
> Thanks, Jim Combs
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Chelton SV-10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
I had asked Josh from direct2 for some details about the wiring harness and this
was his reply:
"I can't get into a lot of detail but Pitot heat, Landing lights (1 each
wing), Nav/Strobe and tail lights, elevator / aileron trim to servos and
sticks, Control wheel steering, AP disconnect, TruTrack AP head and roll
/ pitch servos, Remote Mag, Pinpoint GADAHRS, PS engineering audio,
SL-30 Nav/Comm, Power/Ground for Strobe powerpack, door ajar
sensors/annunciator pilot/copilot sides, all Chelton EFIS harnesses and
interconnect, Datalink weather, OAT Probe, etc...
To give you an idea, if you wanted just the Chelton EFIS harnesses they
run $2,210.00. "
So is this $2,210.00 item the interconnect cable you are speaking of? Is it really
$2k worth of wire and connectors?
Direct 2 may have created more problems for themselves by trying to put together
a harness that will make us happy. We are all building experimental aircraft,
and we all make individual choices to build a plane that meets our individual
mission. They may have better off having their harness supplement Vans wiring
harness. Then we can just complain how Vans thinks the RV-10 is a VFR aircraft.
I wish Direct 2 would put some meat into their website. It is just a bunch of
marketing talk. Give us some technical specs, wiring diagrams, downloadable installation
and operating guides. Hay even something simple dimensions of the
unit and a full scale color image of their display. (Yes I know this info is
available on Tim's site or I could scale one of their images)
I am even confused as to what comes with the SV-sport or the SV-10. Do I still
get a crossbow (not) with the Sport and a Pinpoint with the SV-10. The SV-10
you get a 16 or 12 channel gps (depending on where you look on the pdf) but the
Sport has a WAAS enabled GPS (both non certified). The sport comes with an
OAT probe, no mention in the SV-10 pdf. Then the product page lists a bunch
of options for the sport like cable assembly, fuel flow transducer... then says
$25,900.00 complete. Complete with what? I guess it is complete with what
they give you. Maybe it is like the car adds, nicely equipped for $25,900.
I don't mean to be flaming direct 2. I am sure they support the experimental builders
well (just look what they are doing with the AHRS) and their product blows
away anything I could afford in a certified aircraft. I am just frustrated
by trying to make a HUGE investment in my airplane's panel without enough information.
Sorry for the rant.
do not archive
--
Larry Rosen
RV-10 #356
http://lrosen.nerv10.com
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
I would like Direct2 to publish the standards they market that they are
building the harnesses to.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Again though, I do think the interconnect harnesses are worth purchasing
if they were available. There's a lot of wires in them and the
manufactured ones are very nice. It's the long run ones and the
Big J1/J3's that would be nice to build.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> Thanks John, I already re did the PDF and sent it to Josh to replace
> his. :-) I agree on the harness deal and I'm betting there will be
> several others that feel that way. I don't see it as a big selling
> point and more of a detraction for the extra couple grand. As long as
> they are willing to work with the people that don't want it it's no
big
> deal.
>
> Michael
> Do not archive
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John W.
Cox
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:10 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>
> Here is a poor man's edit for the CFO of the Chelton Paper towel roll
on
> the SV-10. Safety and Appeal should stand the acid test. Price is
> another, I would press for Tim's cable solution. Delete it and make
it
> an add for the solder and crimp impaired.
>
>
>
> John $00.02
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV
Builder
> (Michael Sausen)
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:07 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>
>
>
> Yep, same price they give me. Really annoying when they try to make
> something look like one price and it really isn't. Just call it
26,900
> and be done with it rather than looking like you are trying to pull
> something. Personally I would much rather see them drop the price
$2000
> and skip the harness or at least add it as an option instead of part
of
> the kit. Now if they would just fix the PDF so it can be printed and I
> can show it to the CFO.
>
>
> Michael Sausen
> RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:00 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> If he gave you a specific dollar, your number may be better than mine.
> What he told me, word for word, was "A little over $26,000". It
> would seem to me that $26,900 is more like "A little under $27,000".
> But I didn't get a specific dollar amount like you. One thing that
> builders will definitely want to put their thought into is do they
want
> to build a harness or buy? IMHO, I'd rather build one, except for the
> screen interconnects...having done just that in the past I can't see
it
> being good for my personal experience any other way. But, I'm good
with
> a crimper and soldering iron.
> For some builders they may really want/need that prebuilt harness if
> they are to be successful. The harnesses aren't hard to make, just
tedious.
> Tim
>
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Bob Newman wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com>
>>
>> Tim, I had a long discussion with Josh at Direct 2 and I'm almost
>> certain he said the price is going to be $26,900.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> >>> Tim@MyRV10.com 3/24/2006 8:44:46 AM >>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> It's going to be right around $26,000.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Jesse Saint wrote:
>> > Anyone know the price for the whole shebang?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jesse Saint
>> >
>> > I-TEC, Inc.
>> >
>> > jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
>> >
>> > www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the
end
>> of
>> > May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I
can
>>
>> > check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the
>> I-TEC
>> > office at 352-465-4545.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Indran
>> > Chelvanayagam
>> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:14 AM
>> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> > *Subject:* RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Anyone seen the info on Direct to Avionics website about the "new"
>> > Chelton SV-10? It appears to be a dual screen setup, with a wiring
>> > harness that claims to be complete - ie strobes, autopilot servoes,
>> > trim, pitot heat etc. This sounds like a better harness than Van's
>> basic
>> > offering.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.d2av.com/pdfs/SV-10.pdf
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Indran Chelvanayagam
>> >
>> > 40228
>> >
>> > Finish Kit arrived yesterday - the beginning of the end?
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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> more:
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>
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.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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>
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ntribution
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Nicely said Larry, "What say you Josh?"
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Chelton SV-10
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
I had asked Josh from direct2 for some details about the wiring harness
and this was his reply:
"I can't get into a lot of detail but Pitot heat, Landing lights (1 each
wing), Nav/Strobe and tail lights, elevator / aileron trim to servos and
sticks, Control wheel steering, AP disconnect, TruTrack AP head and roll
/ pitch servos, Remote Mag, Pinpoint GADAHRS, PS engineering audio,
SL-30 Nav/Comm, Power/Ground for Strobe powerpack, door ajar
sensors/annunciator pilot/copilot sides, all Chelton EFIS harnesses and
interconnect, Datalink weather, OAT Probe, etc...
To give you an idea, if you wanted just the Chelton EFIS harnesses they
run $2,210.00. "
So is this $2,210.00 item the interconnect cable you are speaking of?
Is it really $2k worth of wire and connectors?
Direct 2 may have created more problems for themselves by trying to put
together a harness that will make us happy. We are all building
experimental aircraft, and we all make individual choices to build a
plane that meets our individual mission. They may have better off
having their harness supplement Vans wiring harness. Then we can just
complain how Vans thinks the RV-10 is a VFR aircraft.
I wish Direct 2 would put some meat into their website. It is just a
bunch of marketing talk. Give us some technical specs, wiring diagrams,
downloadable installation and operating guides. Hay even something
simple dimensions of the unit and a full scale color image of their
display. (Yes I know this info is available on Tim's site or I could
scale one of their images)
I am even confused as to what comes with the SV-sport or the SV-10. Do
I still get a crossbow (not) with the Sport and a Pinpoint with the
SV-10. The SV-10 you get a 16 or 12 channel gps (depending on where you
look on the pdf) but the Sport has a WAAS enabled GPS (both non
certified). The sport comes with an OAT probe, no mention in the SV-10
pdf. Then the product page lists a bunch of options for the sport like
cable assembly, fuel flow transducer... then says $25,900.00 complete.
Complete with what? I guess it is complete with what they give you.
Maybe it is like the car adds, nicely equipped for $25,900.
I don't mean to be flaming direct 2. I am sure they support the
experimental builders well (just look what they are doing with the AHRS)
and their product blows away anything I could afford in a certified
aircraft. I am just frustrated by trying to make a HUGE investment in my
airplane's panel without enough information.
Sorry for the rant.
do not archive
--
Larry Rosen
RV-10 #356
http://lrosen.nerv10.com
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| Subject: | Re: Chelton SV-10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Larry Rosen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> I had asked Josh from direct2 for some details about the wiring harness
> and this was his reply:
>
> "I can't get into a lot of detail but Pitot heat, Landing lights (1 each
> wing), Nav/Strobe and tail lights, elevator / aileron trim to servos and
> sticks, Control wheel steering, AP disconnect, TruTrack AP head and roll
> / pitch servos, Remote Mag, Pinpoint GADAHRS, PS engineering audio,
> SL-30 Nav/Comm, Power/Ground for Strobe powerpack, door ajar
> sensors/annunciator pilot/copilot sides, all Chelton EFIS harnesses and
> interconnect, Datalink weather, OAT Probe, etc...
>
> To give you an idea, if you wanted just the Chelton EFIS harnesses they
> run $2,210.00. "
>
> So is this $2,210.00 item the interconnect cable you are speaking of?
> Is it really $2k worth of wire and connectors?
That's the whole ball of wax. Man, I didn't expect it to be that
complete. The interconnects I was referring to were just the
62 pin cables that connect each screen to the next. Those would
be the toughest to make. Actually though, if you can get a harness
that is honestly as complete as listed above, it would easily be
worth $2,210. I can tell you that the wiring phase took me easily
a couple hundred hours. This harness could potentially save a lot of
time. I myself really like to "do-it-yourself" as often as I reasonably
can, and allow room for some customization, so I'm not a great
target for the harness. I am really surprised it's that complete
though...that's pretty cool and takes a lot of planning.
>
> Direct 2 may have created more problems for themselves by trying to put
> together a harness that will make us happy. We are all building
> experimental aircraft, and we all make individual choices to build a
> plane that meets our individual mission. They may have better off
> having their harness supplement Vans wiring harness. Then we can just
> complain how Vans thinks the RV-10 is a VFR aircraft.
>
Actually, I think the intention was to make a complete supplement to
the Van's harness. As you can tell though, I agree with your viewpoint
on customization.
> I wish Direct 2 would put some meat into their website. It is just a
> bunch of marketing talk. Give us some technical specs, wiring diagrams,
> downloadable installation and operating guides. Hay even something
> simple dimensions of the unit and a full scale color image of their
> display. (Yes I know this info is available on Tim's site or I could
> scale one of their images)
> I am even confused as to what comes with the SV-sport or the SV-10. Do
> I still get a crossbow (not) with the Sport and a Pinpoint with the
> SV-10. The SV-10 you get a 16 or 12 channel gps (depending on where you
> look on the pdf) but the Sport has a WAAS enabled GPS (both non
> certified). The sport comes with an OAT probe, no mention in the SV-10
> pdf. Then the product page lists a bunch of options for the sport like
> cable assembly, fuel flow transducer... then says $25,900.00 complete.
> Complete with what? I guess it is complete with what they give you.
> Maybe it is like the car adds, nicely equipped for $25,900.
>
All crossbows (425EX) are being recalled and replaced with pinpoints,
so you would not get a crossbow. I am sure there will be only one
AHRS going forward, and it will be the same for the "SV-Sport" and
"SV-10". The whole "SV-10" idea is probably just concocted to
address the huge forming market of RV-10's....have you recognized
lately how many vendors realize the market potential? I don't
knwo about the GPS channels, but part of the confusion may come from
the promo deal going on....the Free Freeflight GPS option would give it
one of the 2 legal TSO's WAAS GPS receivers integrated into the system,
giving it full power, legally. You should expect the SV-10 package
to be as complete as the sport. Remember, the difference is the
addition of the harness, and a different screen logo...not much more.
The OAT probe will probably come with them all. FWIW, mine came with
the OAT, and Fuel Flow transducer at the time I bought it....nearly
a year ago. Also, I got a somewhat cheesier OAT probe with my
GRT EIS system bought at the same time. Depending on what you do
for Engine Instruments, it'll probably come with OAT too. You'll
likely end up with extra, not short.
> I don't mean to be flaming direct 2. I am sure they support the
> experimental builders well (just look what they are doing with the AHRS)
> and their product blows away anything I could afford in a certified
> aircraft. I am just frustrated by trying to make a HUGE investment in my
> airplane's panel without enough information.
> Sorry for the rant.
>
I wouldn't worry about ranting. The hardest part is getting the info.
That's where the group can make up for the manufacturer's shortcomings.
There's not a lot of good info out there from most of them. And from
what I've seen, pretty much every manufacturer exhibits a few common
things..... A) Vaporware, B) Poor manuals or pre-sales literature,
C) Poor email response. The best advice I have is, try to deal with
getting your questions answered by vendors by using the phone. Then,
when you get an answer, share it with the rest of the group so it
it's as painful. Last year, you'll remember that I posted lots of
stuff on the system. Not everything ended up exactly as originally
though, but the whole reason I posted it was to clarify those questions
that were nagging people....and I worked hard to get the right
answers. It's someone elses turn, now that I have it all installed
and flying. I'll be happy to help guide people through the install
portion though.
Good luck,
Tim
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>
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| Subject: | Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine |
Hello all,
I would like to hear from you if you're a builder who has successfully
installed and flown an alternative engine in your plane. I'm compiling a
builder's roundup for Kitplanes magazine, and am looking for an
installation that's flown for a minimum of 300 hours, and is currently
flying.
For the builders that we profile, the magazine will also be able to pay
you $100 for the write-up. I'll be at Sun 'n Fun until late morning on
Friday (April 7), so if you fly in, I'd be happy to take the photos
there. If not, we would also need at least 2-3 good photos, including a
close-up of the engine and an overall shot of the aircraft. Additional
photos would be great, and all photos will be returned. If you have
digital photos, it is very important that they be high-resolution, at
least 300 dpi. I have a list of specific areas to address if you'd like
to participate, but we can handle that off-line. Please feel free to
contact me off-line at: bootless (at) earthlink (dot) net (my despammed
email address).
Thank you so much!
best,
Cory Emberson
Contributing Editor
Kitplanes Magazine
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| Subject: | Re: Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
I think all the flying customer built RV-10 are using IO-540. The only
variation you will get are 2 blade metal vs 3 blade composite props.
Some Subies and rotaries in the building stages.
Cory Emberson wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I would like to hear from you if you're a builder who has successfully
> installed and flown an alternative engine in your plane. I'm compiling
> a builder's roundup for Kitplanes magazine, and am looking for an
> installation that's flown for a minimum of 300 hours, and is currently
> flying.
>
> For the builders that we profile, the magazine will also be able to
> pay you $100 for the write-up. I'll be at Sun 'n Fun until late
> morning on Friday (April 7), so if you fly in, I'd be happy to take
> the photos there. If not, we would also need at least 2-3 good photos,
> including a close-up of the engine and an overall shot of the
> aircraft. Additional photos would be great, and all photos will be
> returned. If you have digital photos, it is very important that they
> be high-resolution, at least 300 dpi. I have a list of specific areas
> to address if you'd like to participate, but we can handle that
> off-line. Please feel free to contact me off-line at: bootless (at)
> earthlink (dot) net (my despammed email address).
>
> Thank you so much!
>
> best,
> Cory Emberson
> Contributing Editor
> Kitplanes Magazine
>
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| Subject: | Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine |
Eggenfellner is delivering his first FWF packages for the RV10 in the
August time frame. To the best of my knowledge there is only one 10
flying with anything other than a Lycoming and that is the factory
plane, if you ask this same question near the end of the year or same
time next year you will get a better response from the 10 crowd. If you
are looking for input from the smaller plane crowd I would suggest you
contact the yahoo list for Eggenfellener, as he has many more flying
this year than he did the last time you asked.
Dan
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cory Emberson
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:12 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes
Magazine
Hello all,
I would like to hear from you if you're a builder who has successfully
installed and flown an alternative engine in your plane. I'm compiling a
builder's roundup for Kitplanes magazine, and am looking for an
installation that's flown for a minimum of 300 hours, and is currently
flying.
For the builders that we profile, the magazine will also be able to pay
you $100 for the write-up. I'll be at Sun 'n Fun until late morning on
Friday (April 7), so if you fly in, I'd be happy to take the photos
there. If not, we would also need at least 2-3 good photos, including a
close-up of the engine and an overall shot of the aircraft. Additional
photos would be great, and all photos will be returned. If you have
digital photos, it is very important that they be high-resolution, at
least 300 dpi. I have a list of specific areas to address if you'd like
to participate, but we can handle that off-line. Please feel free to
contact me off-line at: bootless (at) earthlink (dot) net (my despammed
email address).
Thank you so much!
best,
Cory Emberson
Contributing Editor
Kitplanes Magazine
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| Subject: | Re: Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Cory Emberson <bootless@earthlink.net>
Thanks, Larry.
I kind of thought so, but that one odd plane that's been flying its tail
off could always be out there. :-)
I appreciate the info.
best, Cory
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Larry Rosen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> I think all the flying customer built RV-10 are using IO-540. The
> only variation you will get are 2 blade metal vs 3 blade composite
> props. Some Subies and rotaries in the building stages.
>
> Cory Emberson wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I would like to hear from you if you're a builder who has
>> successfully installed and flown an alternative engine in your plane.
>> I'm compiling a builder's roundup for Kitplanes magazine, and am
>> looking for an installation that's flown for a minimum of 300 hours,
>> and is currently flying.
>>
>> For the builders that we profile, the magazine will also be able to
>> pay you $100 for the write-up. I'll be at Sun 'n Fun until late
>> morning on Friday (April 7), so if you fly in, I'd be happy to take
>> the photos there. If not, we would also need at least 2-3 good
>> photos, including a close-up of the engine and an overall shot of the
>> aircraft. Additional photos would be great, and all photos will be
>> returned. If you have digital photos, it is very important that they
>> be high-resolution, at least 300 dpi. I have a list of specific areas
>> to address if you'd like to participate, but we can handle that
>> off-line. Please feel free to contact me off-line at: bootless (at)
>> earthlink (dot) net (my despammed email address).
>>
>> Thank you so much!
>>
>> best,
>> Cory Emberson
>> Contributing Editor
>> Kitplanes Magazine
>>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes Magazine |
Thanks, Dan.
I will be checking out the Eggenfellner site as well - I've been
subscribed there for a while. The magazine revisits these builder
roundups from time to time, so I expect that the next time around will
be ripe for the 10s.
best, Cory
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Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> Eggenfellner is delivering his first FWF packages for the RV10 in the
> August time frame. To the best of my knowledge there is only one 10
> flying with anything other than a Lycoming and that is the factory
> plane, if you ask this same question near the end of the year or same
> time next year you will get a better response from the 10 crowd. If
> you are looking for input from the smaller plane crowd I would suggest
> you contact the yahoo list for Eggenfellener, as he has many more
> flying this year than he did the last time you asked.
> Dan
> 40269
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cory Emberson
> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:12 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Feedback Request (Alternative Engines) Kitplanes
> Magazine
>
> Hello all,
>
> I would like to hear from you if you're a builder who has successfully
> installed and flown an alternative engine in your plane. I'm compiling
> a builder's roundup for Kitplanes magazine, and am looking for an
> installation that's flown for a minimum of 300 hours, and is currently
> flying.
>
> For the builders that we profile, the magazine will also be able to
> pay you $100 for the write-up. I'll be at Sun 'n Fun until late
> morning on Friday (April 7), so if you fly in, I'd be happy to take
> the photos there. If not, we would also need at least 2-3 good photos,
> including a close-up of the engine and an overall shot of the
> aircraft. Additional photos would be great, and all photos will be
> returned. If you have digital photos, it is very important that they
> be high-resolution, at least 300 dpi. I have a list of specific areas
> to address if you'd like to participate, but we can handle that
> off-line. Please feel free to contact me off-line at: bootless (at)
> earthlink (dot) net (my despammed email address).
>
> Thank you so much!
>
> best,
> Cory Emberson
> Contributing Editor
> Kitplanes Magazine
>
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| Subject: | Cruise Performance? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
I know this has been broached a little before, but now that many have been
flying for some time I was wondering if you could post some cruise stats?
Particularly cruise speed and fuel burn.
Thanks,
Marcus
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