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1. 06:45 AM - Re: Where to start on QB fuse? (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
2. 02:29 PM - Tru Trak's RV10 (zackrv8)
3. 03:13 PM - RV-10 compatible engines (Ben Westfall)
4. 03:17 PM - Aero sport panel and center console (Ben Westfall)
5. 03:25 PM - Re: Where to start on QB fuse? (Jesse Saint)
6. 03:40 PM - Re: RV-10 compatible engines (Jesse Saint)
7. 03:42 PM - Re: Aero sport panel and center console (Jesse Saint)
8. 04:03 PM - Re: Aero sport panel and center console (Jim Wade)
9. 04:12 PM - Re: Where to start on QB fuse? (Tim Olson)
10. 04:36 PM - QB firewall brake line bracket installed? (Dan Masys)
11. 04:52 PM - Re: Aero sport panel and center console (Randy DeBauw)
12. 05:01 PM - Re: QB firewall brake line bracket installed? (Indran Chelvanayagam)
13. 05:05 PM - S&F - Tim's -10 (Byron Gillespie)
14. 05:12 PM - Re: Where to start on QB fuse? [step wobble] (Eric Panning)
15. 05:28 PM - Re: Where to start on QB fuse? [step wobble] (John Jessen)
16. 05:47 PM - Re: RV-10 compatible engines (Paul Grimstad)
17. 06:10 PM - Re: S&F - Tim's -10 (Dan Masys)
18. 06:34 PM - Re: S&F - Tim's -10 (Tim Olson)
19. 10:06 PM - Re: Aero sport panel and center console (Robert G. Wright)
20. 10:28 PM - Re: Aero sport panel and center console (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
21. 11:17 PM - Re: Aero sport panel and center console (John Dunne)
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| Subject: | Re: Where to start on QB fuse? |
I had the opportunity to fly the factory 10 Thursday (w Gus) at SnF--actually
at Plant City AP...the step on the right side sure wobbled as a got up and
down on it; is that normal?
Patrick
ps...Tim's 10 is just outstanding!!!!
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
I got to see Tru Trak's RV10 at SNF. Though not painted yet, the interior looks
finished. I snapped some pics below.
Zack
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RV10 # 40512
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| Subject: | RV-10 compatible engines |
I am still in the planning faze and rounding up tools but getting ready to
purchase the empennage kit in the next couple of weeks. I am wondering
about motors. Specifically which 540's will work w/o a whole lot of
re-arranging? I am sure this has been covered several times but I cannot
find much searching through the archived messages. It seems there are
several Aztec motors IO-540-C4B5's on the market. What about a Cherokee six
motors O-540-E4B5? Will any of these work?
Any info on motors and how to read motor codes would be appreciated.
Ben Westfall
Portland, OR
Almost an Empennage
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| Subject: | Aero sport panel and center console |
Does anyone have a price on the Aero sport panel and center console? Can
you buy just the panel and build up the avionics yourself? Thought I would
try here before asking Aero sport.
THX
Ben Westfall
Portland, OR
Almost an Empennage
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| Subject: | Where to start on QB fuse? |
That can be normal if you are not VERY careful in drilling that bolt hole
that holds it. I recommend using a reamer (undersized if possible), and do
it very slowly and carefully. Our flying -10 has one step that wobbles, but
the ones we are working on now are all solid. That one hole makes all the
difference. While it will probably not shear the bolt, it is still a little
bit annoying. I guess you could also go with an oversized bolt if the hole
is a little too big, or go up to the next size.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
<mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> jesse@itecusa.org
<http://www.itecusa.org> www.itecusa.org
I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of
May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check
from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at
352-465-4545.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Where to start on QB fuse?
I had the opportunity to fly the factory 10 Thursday (w Gus) at
SnF--actually at Plant City AP...the step on the right side sure wobbled as
a got up and down on it; is that normal?
Patrick
ps...Tim's 10 is just outstanding!!!!
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| Subject: | RV-10 compatible engines |
Any parallel valve 540 will do the trick. The main thing that may not be
the same would be the engine mount ears, but that is not the end of the
world because they can be changed. The parallel valve engines are the
235-260HP versions, not the 300+HP versions. I think the angle valve models
start in K, so anything else should be fine. Some Aztecs have the 300HP
versions, but both of the model numbers that you mentioned should be fine,
though I am pretty sure you will have to change the ears if they come off
the Aztec. We have a C4B5 on N256H and we had to change the ears.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
<mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> jesse@itecusa.org
<http://www.itecusa.org> www.itecusa.org
I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of
May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check
from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at
352-465-4545.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 5:12 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 compatible engines
I am still in the planning faze and rounding up tools but getting ready to
purchase the empennage kit in the next couple of weeks. I am wondering
about motors. Specifically which 540's will work w/o a whole lot of
re-arranging? I am sure this has been covered several times but I cannot
find much searching through the archived messages. It seems there are
several Aztec motors IO-540-C4B5's on the market. What about a Cherokee six
motors O-540-E4B5? Will any of these work?
Any info on motors and how to read motor codes would be appreciated.
Ben Westfall
Portland, OR
Almost an Empennage
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| Subject: | Aero sport panel and center console |
I think Stein sells a fiberglass panel for a decent price, but the one from
the guys in Oregon I think you pay an arm and a leg for.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
<mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> jesse@itecusa.org
<http://www.itecusa.org> www.itecusa.org
I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of
May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check
from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at
352-465-4545.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Aero sport panel and center console
Does anyone have a price on the Aero sport panel and center console? Can
you buy just the panel and build up the avionics yourself? Thought I would
try here before asking Aero sport.
THX
Ben Westfall
Portland, OR
Almost an Empennage
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| Subject: | Aero sport panel and center console |
Aerocrafters in Oregon sells the panel for about 1300 bucks. You can install
everything yourself. When you have them do it, that's when the money flows.
Jim
40383
-------Original Message-------
From: Jesse Saint
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aero sport panel and center console
I think Stein sells a fiberglass panel for a decent price, but the one from
the guys in Oregon I think you pay an arm and a leg for.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May
You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from
down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at
352-465-4545.
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Aero sport panel and center console
Does anyone have a price on the Aero sport panel and center console? Can
you buy just the panel and build up the avionics yourself? Thought I would
try here before asking Aero sport.
THX
Ben Westfall
Portland, OR
Almost an Empennage
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| Subject: | Re: Where to start on QB fuse? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Patrick,
My steps wobble a little too. The fit isn't super tight,
and depending on how perfectly and proper sized you drill
the holes you may get a little slop. I think as long as
you don't let it get out of hand and oblong the holes
you probably have no worries. If so, you could always
come up with a gap fill material on one half if necessary.
Thanks for the comments on the plane. There are a LOT of
people coming and talking to me about it. Today was my
first day hanging out at the show.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
GRANSCOTT@aol.com wrote:
> I had the opportunity to fly the factory 10 Thursday (w Gus) at
> SnF--actually at Plant City AP...the step on the right side sure wobbled
> as a got up and down on it; is that normal?
>
> Patrick
>
> ps...Tim's 10 is just outstanding!!!!
>
>
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| Subject: | QB firewall brake line bracket installed? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
I am working my way through the instructions checking off everything that has already
been done on the quickbuild fuselage. Currently stuck on the firewall,
where the plans show the F-6221-1 "Tri-Gear Brake Bracket" (i.e, the little angle
piece that has the fittings where the aluminum brake lines connect to the
flex brake lines). This part wasn't riveted on by the folks in the Philippines,
and I can neither find it in my parts inventory or on the fuse parts list.
From other builders' QB websites it looks like their firewalls may have arrived
from the factory with this bracket already riveted. Do any of you QB builders
remember whether you had to rivet that bracket on, and if so, was it in the
fuse kit or did it arrive in the finish kit with other brake parts.
Thanks,
-Dan Masys
#40448
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| Subject: | Aero sport panel and center console |
Try Tony and Eric at Accuracy Avionics. They were the actual guys that
built my panel. There new shop is open for business. The fiberglass
panel with be updated from mine because of the things they have learned.
They sold several complete panels at there last place of employment. On
of the items they want to supply is panels to customers so they can
complete them. There number is 866-548-7265 or 541-388-1788. Randy
40006.
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aero sport panel and center console
I think Stein sells a fiberglass panel for a decent price, but the one
from the guys in Oregon I think you pay an arm and a leg for.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of
May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can
check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC
office at 352-465-4545.
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Aero sport panel and center console
Does anyone have a price on the Aero sport panel and center console?
Can you buy just the panel and build up the avionics yourself? Thought
I would try here before asking Aero sport.
THX
Ben Westfall
Portland, OR
Almost an Empennage
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| Subject: | QB firewall brake line bracket installed? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Indran Chelvanayagam" <ichelva@netspace.net.au>
Dan - the bracket was already attached on my QB fuse.
As it doesn't fit the Matco parking brake valve (from Vans), I'm thinking of
removing it. You may not want to install the bracket if you choose a parking
brake valve
Indran
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Masys
Sent: Saturday, 8 April 2006 7:35 AM
Subject: RV10-List: QB firewall brake line bracket installed?
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
I am working my way through the instructions checking off everything that
has already been done on the quickbuild fuselage. Currently stuck on the
firewall, where the plans show the F-6221-1 "Tri-Gear Brake Bracket" (i.e,
the little angle piece that has the fittings where the aluminum brake lines
connect to the flex brake lines). This part wasn't riveted on by the folks
in the Philippines, and I can neither find it in my parts inventory or on
the fuse parts list. From other builders' QB websites it looks like their
firewalls may have arrived from the factory with this bracket already
riveted. Do any of you QB builders remember whether you had to rivet that
bracket on, and if so, was it in the fuse kit or did it arrive in the finish
kit with other brake parts.
Thanks,
-Dan Masys
#40448
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Byron Gillespie" <bgill1@charter.net>
Hey Tim:
See that you are checking in on the forum again. Sorry I missed you @
S&F but the plane looks great. I was there Wednesday and Thursday
morning. There was a steady group around the display. It was a pleasure
to meet several other -10 builders and actually see a -10 in person -
kind of made me ready to get back and complete the fiberglass work and
get the engine mounted.
This trip was a decision base as I had to make some final decisions on
the panel and get it rolling. I bit the bullet and went for the Chelton
duals, had some good discussions with "Stein" and made a decision to let
him do the panel.
This was my first fly-in (although I drove down) - pretty impressive.
The wife even had a great time and is talking about next year.
Looking forward to hearing some of the other reports as they flow in....
Byron Gillespie
#40253 Finishing kit
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| Subject: | Re: Where to start on QB fuse? [step wobble] |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
I put in a doubler plate and some J channel to
strengthen the step attach point. I can dig up and
attach the pics if there is interest. Also ordered
extra stall warning sensor access panels and will be
putting these in the baggage floor to access the step
attach hardware. (also for inspection, etc)
Eric
--- Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
> <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Patrick,
>
> My steps wobble a little too. The fit isn't super
> tight,
> and depending on how perfectly and proper sized you
> drill
> the holes you may get a little slop. I think as
> long as
> you don't let it get out of hand and oblong the
> holes
> you probably have no worries. If so, you could
> always
> come up with a gap fill material on one half if
> necessary.
>
> Thanks for the comments on the plane. There are a
> LOT of
> people coming and talking to me about it. Today was
> my
> first day hanging out at the show.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> GRANSCOTT@aol.com wrote:
> > I had the opportunity to fly the factory 10
> Thursday (w Gus) at
> > SnF--actually at Plant City AP...the step on the
> right side sure wobbled
> > as a got up and down on it; is that normal?
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > ps...Tim's 10 is just outstanding!!!!
>
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| Subject: | Where to start on QB fuse? [step wobble] |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Please do post the pictures, if handy.
John Jessen
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Panning
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Where to start on QB fuse? [step wobble]
--> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning
--> <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
I put in a doubler plate and some J channel to strengthen the step attach
point. I can dig up and attach the pics if there is interest. Also ordered
extra stall warning sensor access panels and will be putting these in the
baggage floor to access the step attach hardware. (also for inspection, etc)
Eric
--- Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
> <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Patrick,
>
> My steps wobble a little too. The fit isn't super tight, and
> depending on how perfectly and proper sized you drill the holes you
> may get a little slop. I think as long as you don't let it get out of
> hand and oblong the holes you probably have no worries. If so, you
> could always come up with a gap fill material on one half if
> necessary.
>
> Thanks for the comments on the plane. There are a LOT of people
> coming and talking to me about it. Today was my first day hanging out
> at the show.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> GRANSCOTT@aol.com wrote:
> > I had the opportunity to fly the factory 10
> Thursday (w Gus) at
> > SnF--actually at Plant City AP...the step on the
> right side sure wobbled
> > as a got up and down on it; is that normal?
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > ps...Tim's 10 is just outstanding!!!!
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 compatible engines |
Ben
I haven't put much effort into engine choice. All I know for now is that an IO-540
is the ticket and they cost a bunch of money. What I will share with you is
that building the RV10 is a lot of fun. I got kit 450 for my birthday gift.
I like to think of it as: kit number four fifty, for my 50th.
I too am here in Portland. Handy to Van's close by. I was able to will call the
kits in my van.
Couple pictures of my progress attached.
Best wishes, you'll enjoy the project.
Paul Grimstad
----- Original Message -----
From: Ben Westfall
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 compatible engines
I am still in the planning faze and rounding up tools but getting ready to purchase
the empennage kit in the next couple of weeks. I am wondering about motors.
Specifically which 540's will work w/o a whole lot of re-arranging? I
am sure this has been covered several times but I cannot find much searching through
the archived messages. It seems there are several Aztec motors IO-540-C4B5's
on the market. What about a Cherokee six motors O-540-E4B5? Will any
of these work?
Any info on motors and how to read motor codes would be appreciated.
Ben Westfall
Portland, OR
Almost an Empennage
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| Subject: | Re: S&F - Tim's -10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
> From: "Byron Gillespie" <bgill1@charter.net>
> Date: 2006/04/07 Fri PM 08:05:00 EDT
> Sorry I missed you @
> S&F but the plane looks great.
These SnF posts got me thinking I ought to just jump in the RV-7 and fly down to
Lakeland tomorrow (only 550 nm - no biggee ;-) ). Then the monster cold front
that was spawning T-storms and tornadoes (saw my first-ever funnel cloud today...)
in the neighborhood and across the southeast convinced me that it actually
would be a good weekend to just stay home and pound some more rivets. Oh
well, see y'all at OSH.
-Dan Masys
#40448
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| Subject: | Re: S&F - Tim's -10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Absolutely I'll see y'all there. It's only an hour by -10 for me
to OSH. I'll have only a couple photos from SNF to post...it's
been busy by the plane with questions. If anyone else takes
-10 related SNF photos, send them on over to me and I'll post
some highlights of SNF for the builders. Include comments
and I can add that to the page with credit to you.
I know there are some interesting things. RV-10 A/C,
a new RV-10 TruTrak AP, Henkjan brought his locking door latches
to check out (very nice at maybe $200/pr ballpark (don't hold him
to that)), and lots of other cool stuff as well. I only wish
I had time to check it all out.
Anyone have any advice on who's el'cheapo portable O2 system is
the best bet? That's about the only big thing I'm shopping
for. I don't want a permanent install right now, and probably
won't use it often because of the kids, but it would be nice
to have for some trip legs. I may end up in San Diego this
summer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Dan Masys wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
>
>> From: "Byron Gillespie" <bgill1@charter.net> Date: 2006/04/07 Fri
>> PM 08:05:00 EDT
>
>> Sorry I missed you @ S&F but the plane looks great.
>
> These SnF posts got me thinking I ought to just jump in the RV-7 and
> fly down to Lakeland tomorrow (only 550 nm - no biggee ;-) ). Then
> the monster cold front that was spawning T-storms and tornadoes (saw
> my first-ever funnel cloud today...) in the neighborhood and across
> the southeast convinced me that it actually would be a good weekend
> to just stay home and pound some more rivets. Oh well, see y'all at
> OSH.
>
> -Dan Masys #40448
>
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| Subject: | Aero sport panel and center console |
I was at Sun-N-Fun today. show price is 3200 for console/panel; you can buy
the console alone for 1200.
Rob
#392
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Aero sport panel and center console
Does anyone have a price on the Aero sport panel and center console? Can
you buy just the panel and build up the avionics yourself? Thought I would
try here before asking Aero sport.
THX
Ben Westfall
Portland, OR
Almost an Empennage
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See? $400 for engine mount ears doesn't sound so bad anymore . . .
TDT
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Robert G. Wright
Sent: Sat 4/8/2006 1:04 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aero sport panel and center console
I was at Sun-N-Fun today. show price is 3200 for console/panel; you can buy the
console alone for 1200.
Rob
#392
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Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Aero sport panel and center console
Does anyone have a price on the Aero sport panel and center console? Can you buy
just the panel and build up the avionics yourself? Thought I would try here
before asking Aero sport.
THX
Ben Westfall
Portland, OR
Almost an Empennage
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| Subject: | Re: Aero sport panel and center console |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au>
That's the funny part about aircraft parts mentality.
My wife was talking to the kitchen consultant about this design and that
design and I was only half listening, as I was busy manoeuvring pictures of
EFIS displays on my cardboard cutout of the panel and I hear the kitchen guy
say to my wife, "well I hope you're prepared for the shock, the entire
kitchen upgrade I'm afraid will cost you around $20,000! all done in the
actions and tone of Dr.Evil.
I had a bit of a coughing fit and quietly replaced my chelton cutout with a
GRT cutout and then spent the next few days trying to convince my wife that
20K was way over the top to spend on a kitchen!
Aircraft building! you gotta love it!
John 40315
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From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aero sport panel and center console
See? $400 for engine mount ears doesn't sound so bad anymore . . .
TDT
40025
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Robert G. Wright
Sent: Sat 4/8/2006 1:04 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aero sport panel and center console
I was at Sun-N-Fun today. show price is 3200 for console/panel; you can buy
the console alone for 1200.
Rob
#392
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Westfall
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Aero sport panel and center console
Does anyone have a price on the Aero sport panel and center console? Can
you buy just the panel and build up the avionics yourself? Thought I would
try here before asking Aero sport.
THX
Ben Westfall
Portland, OR
Almost an Empennage
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