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1. 02:24 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Jack Sargeant)
2. 04:52 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my commentsSun-N-Fun my comments (Wayne Edgerton)
3. 05:41 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
4. 05:49 AM - Re: sections 11 and 12 (Tim Olson)
5. 06:57 AM - Rain Repellant (Conti, Rick)
6. 07:22 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
7. 07:52 AM - Re: Rain Repellant (Jerry Grimmonpre)
8. 07:54 AM - Re: Rain Repellant (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
9. 07:55 AM - Re: Rain Repellant (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
10. 07:58 AM - Re: Rain Repellant (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
11. 07:58 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
12. 08:08 AM - Re: Rain Repellant (Conti, Rick)
13. 08:22 AM - SnF Sound absorbing material vendor (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
14. 08:22 AM - Re: sections 11 and 12 (John Jessen)
15. 08:23 AM - Re: Rain Repellant (Rene Felker)
16. 09:55 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Brian Sponcil)
17. 10:19 AM - Oil Cooler Installation (Cal Hoffman)
18. 10:45 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Chris Johnston)
19. 11:02 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
20. 11:12 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (John Gonzalez)
21. 11:12 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Jesse Saint)
22. 11:26 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Tim Olson)
23. 11:29 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
24. 11:35 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (David Hertner)
25. 11:49 AM - Re: ELT Antenna (JSMcGrew@aol.com)
26. 11:56 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Chris Johnston)
27. 11:57 AM - Re: ELT Antenna (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
28. 12:04 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Bobby J. Hughes)
29. 12:08 PM - Overhead panel (pcasson@sasktel.net)
30. 12:57 PM - Re: Rain Repellant (Cory Emberson)
31. 12:58 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Robin Marks)
32. 03:23 PM - Step 4 page 10-15 (Fred Williams, M.D.)
33. 03:23 PM - Door latch covering (Byron Gillespie)
34. 03:42 PM - Re: Rain Repellant (Randy DeBauw)
35. 04:08 PM - Twenty Nine Palms (Randy DeBauw)
36. 04:12 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Robert G. Wright)
37. 04:14 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (LarryRosen@comcast.net)
38. 04:18 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Robert G. Wright)
39. 04:30 PM - Re: Twenty Nine Palms (Deems Davis)
40. 04:37 PM - Re: Twenty Nine Palms (Ralph E. Capen)
41. 04:56 PM - Blue Mountain Too Experimental? (Robin Marks)
42. 05:39 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Tim Olson)
43. 05:39 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
44. 05:42 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Tim Olson)
45. 05:42 PM - Re: Twenty Nine Palms (John Hilger)
46. 05:49 PM - Re: ELT Antenna (Richard Sipp)
47. 05:50 PM - Re: Door latch covering (Tim Olson)
48. 06:02 PM - Flap hing bracket bearings (Rob Kermanj)
49. 06:10 PM - planning (sean garrison)
50. 06:22 PM - Re: Flap hing bracket bearings (Tim Olson)
51. 06:42 PM - Re: planning (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
52. 06:51 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Wayne Edgerton)
53. 06:59 PM - Re: Door latch covering (Jesse Saint)
54. 07:05 PM - Re: planning (Jesse Saint)
55. 07:07 PM - Re: planning (Deems Davis)
56. 07:09 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (John Jessen)
57. 07:09 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Jesse Saint)
58. 07:14 PM - Re: Flap hing bracket bearings (Rob Kermanj)
59. 07:20 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (LarryRosen@comcast.net)
60. 07:26 PM - Re: planning (Robert G. Wright)
61. 07:36 PM - Re: ELT Antenna (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
62. 07:53 PM - Re: planning (bob.kaufmann)
63. 08:04 PM - Re: ELT Antenna (Richard Sipp)
64. 08:18 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments (Tim Olson)
65. 08:23 PM - Re: Flap hing bracket bearings (Tim Olson)
66. 08:27 PM - Re: ELT Antenna (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
67. 09:13 PM - Re: Flap hing bracket bearings (Rick)
68. 09:22 PM - Re: ELT Antenna (Tim Olson)
69. 09:27 PM - Re: ELT Antenna (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
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| Subject: | Sun-N-Fun my comments |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jack Sargeant" <k5wiv@amsat.org>
Not to mention (based on the SnF photos) a lovely spouse and two cute kids!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
WOW, he has a full time job, a flying RV-10, a killer web site, doesn't
sleep at night and speaks French. :-)
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Larry,
>
> I think Tim;s (TDT's) problem was that he speaks French, so
> he didn't understand it the first time. Here, let me
> help...
>
> Le packet entre 3 parfums. Fondamental, standard et de luxe. Le prix
> de liste est $1.295, $2.295, et $2.495 respectivement.
>
> (All in good humor)
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun my commentsSun-N-Fun my comments |
Sehr gut f=FCr einen Piloten
Wayne E
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments |
In a message dated 4/10/2006 5:50:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
LarryRosen@comcast.net writes:
I guess it
positioned somewhere between the Sorcerer and Digiflight IIVSGV
Tim, I spent a few minutes with the guys at TruTrak...they said the new RV10
AP does every thing the Sorcerer does except intercept approaches...and that
they would unveil the new screen with details at OSH...someone at another
screen shop said the new screen would be a rather simple screen and not at complete
at the Chilton system...but probably only time will tell---see you at
OSH...sorry to have missed meeting up with you all.
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: sections 11 and 12 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Rob's comments triggered a memory. Another builder tipped me off
to doublecheck my clearance on the bolt holding a rod end for
the trim cable. We both had minimal clearance, and if you tweaked
the rotating arm just right, you could snag the bolt on the trim
bracket slot's edge as it rotated through. I had to file a little
extra out of the slot to give it good clearance. Everyone doublecheck
that you don't have that issue or you could end up with stuck trim.
It's easy to see if you just use a small battery to have the trim
actuate fully in both directions, and it doesn't require the trim
bracket assembly to be mounted to the tailcone.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Robert G. Wright wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
>
> I've just completed this part, as much as I'm going to do for a while on it.
> I went all the way up until where it starts you fitting gap seal and the emp
> fairing, which I don't even have yet.
>
> I also completed the trim mechanism/assembly, and am glad I did. It took me
> a while to get the adjustments correct for full travel on the servo. I
> noticed the motor would slow down and bind itself to a stop on one extreme,
> yet at the other extreme it would shut itself off very smartly. My advice
> on that is to once again take the initial measurements as a starting point
> only, then adjust to get full range of travel both on the servo as well as
> on the trim tabs.
>
> My heartache with this though is having to remove the trim cables and
> assembly - it sure was hard to get in there! Oh well, I've already got some
> small gauge wire wrapped around the ends to pull back through later.
>
> Rob #392
> Working on QB shipment -- it's at Vans!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:54 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: sections 11 and 12
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I don't see any problem with doing it either way. There's nothing
> really in section 11&12 that's too awful dependent on the rest
> of the build. I did mine after the fact, and others did it
> in order. I don't think there's a problem doing it and disassembling
> them either, John...it just doesn't matter much at all. I, like
> you and others, don't have room to have an assembled empennage
> sitting around, which is why I did it that way. One other thing...
> even if you assemble it all, it'll be a heck of a lot easier to
> join the tailcone to the fuselage later if you don't have all
> those tail feathers attached. That doesn't mean you can't
> complete them, just something to think about. I guess I'd just
> do whatever feels best, and if you choose to push on to the wings,
> but have a hold-up of some sort, you can always touch on those
> sections while you wait. One item that may be worth finishing off
> in order is just to assemble the trim mechanism though...just so
> you have fewer parts laying around to lose.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
>
> John Jessen wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>>
>> I appreciate the advice from Larry and Randy, but being at that same
> stage,
>> and even having the room, I do not see what the rationale is to take my
>> pieces off the walls and expose them to hanger rash if I don't have to.
>> What is the "have to" rationale behind doing those two steps at this time,
>> other than Larry's good point about getting them done. I'd rather, I
> think,
>> move on to the wings and have the empennage pieces safely out of the way.
>> Is it okay to assemble them, then take them apart and store them, or is
> this
>> not a good thing to do?
>>
>> John Jessen
>> ~328 (Tailcone being disassembled soon for final deburrrrrrrring)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
>> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:03 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: sections 11 and 12
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>>
>> Since I was waiting on my QB wings and Fuselage I did most of sections
>> 11 & 12, and then took it apart for storage. Ideally you would complete
> the
>> sections and keep them together, and for those working in a hanger they
> can
>> do that. It will not work in my garage. Another advantage of doing most
> of
>> 11 & 12 early is that it will speed up final assembly. In my garage I
> would
>> not be able to put the tail feathers on a fuselage with the engine. Just
>> not enough space.
>>
>> Sorry not a definitive answer, but some things to think about.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> Eric_Kallio wrote:
>>
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
>>>
>>> For those of you who have allready moved on past the emmpenage kit and
>> maybe even flying or close to it, what is your experience on sections 11
> and
>> 12. I am getting ready to rivet the tailcone in the upcoming weeks. Does
> it
>> make sense to complete the next 2 sections fully and then take it apart
> and
>> keep it dis-assembled for a while, or are those sections that should wait
>> until perhaps the finishing kit when I am assuming all the controls are
>> rigged to the cyclic (forgive that term it is the helicopter pilot in me
>> coming out)? Just trying to stay ahead of the game here. Thanks.
>>> Eric
>>> 40518 Tailcone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=27444#27444
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Cc: "Gray, Larry E" <larry.e.gray@boeing.com>
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
Does anyone know the name of the wind screen rain repellant product?
Thank You
Rick Conti
Senior Engineering Manager
The Boeing Company
office: 703 - 414 - 6141
blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
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| Subject: | Sun-N-Fun my comments |
Patrick, I presume you meant to write this autopilot does everything
except intercept an ILS - presumably a GPS approach would be a piece of
cake.
TDT
40025
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
In a message dated 4/10/2006 5:50:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
LarryRosen@comcast.net writes:
I guess it
positioned somewhere between the Sorcerer and Digiflight IIVSGV
Tim, I spent a few minutes with the guys at TruTrak...they said the new
RV10 AP does every thing the Sorcerer does except intercept
approaches...and that they would unveil the new screen with details at
OSH...someone at another screen shop said the new screen would be a
rather simple screen and not at complete at the Chilton system...but
probably only time will tell---see you at OSH...sorry to have missed
meeting up with you all.
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: Rain Repellant |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
Rick,
I think it's Rainx ... but ... caution, says not to use on plexiglass.
Jerry Grimmonpre'
RV8A
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
Cc: "Gray, Larry E" <larry.e.gray@boeing.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>
> Does anyone know the name of the wind screen rain repellant product?
>
> Thank You
> Rick Conti
> Senior Engineering Manager
> The Boeing Company
> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
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| Subject: | Re: Rain Repellant |
In a message dated 4/11/2006 10:01:20 AM Eastern Standard Time,
rick.conti@boeing.com writes:
Does anyone know the name of the wind screen rain repellant product?
That will not break down over time causing rainbows!!! Becareful on a
coating product...a number of these products have silicones in them that long term
bring headaches.
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: Rain Repellant |
Jerry probably should not be used on glass either...IMHO...
Patrick
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A nice m=E9lange of crushed black flies and mayflies works well . . . : )
TDT
40025
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
In a message dated 4/11/2006 10:01:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, rick.conti@boeing.com
writes:
Does anyone know the name of the wind screen rain repellant product?
That will not break down over time causing rainbows!!! Becareful on a coating
product...a number of these products have silicones in them that long term bring
headaches.
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments |
Sorry TDT you're correct...they do not have it on the web site as of last
week, and other than a pix they did not have a data sheet, that I was aware of,
so the fellow said that it would not intercept the final approach course...I
was assuming he meant an ILS and not a GPS/WAAS approach...but I'm not really
sure that is correct.
Hopefully they will have it on the site soon.
P
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Cc: "Gray, Larry E" <larry.e.gray@boeing.com>
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
True, Rain-X should not be used on plexiglass. I believe there is a
product especially for plexiglass. That's what I'm looking for.
Thank You
Rick Conti
office: 703-414-6141
cell: 571-215-6134
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre [mailto:jerry@mc.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
Rick,
I think it's Rainx ... but ... caution, says not to use on plexiglass.
Jerry Grimmonpre'
RV8A
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
Cc: "Gray, Larry E" <larry.e.gray@boeing.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
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> The Boeing Company
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| Subject: | SnF Sound absorbing material vendor |
I visited the booth of SoundEx products...the fellow there offered a demo of
a loud speaker in an Igloo box closed and open showing his material absorbed
sound...how that noise relates to an airplane engine I don't know...but anyway
I took a sample home.
I placed it in a dish with water and the foam really loaded up pretty
quickly, plus it held the water pretty well while I hung it up...seems the cells
are
pretty available to water and sound absorption...I think I'd be a little
concerned using this material in an aircraft...plus looking at it, it looks like
something I could cobble together for a whole lot less than he was charging.
The aluminium material bubble cells peeled off of the white celled material
when it became wet. Don't know if the piece I receive, while a very small
sample, was a good sample of the work or whether the cells glue was not applied
on
this small sample. But holding a lot of water would concern me more than
noise.
Patrick
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| Subject: | sections 11 and 12 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
For what it's worth, last night I took a look at all the steps through
Sections 11 & 12, while having the usual sophisticated after deburring
cocktail (Bud), and I found nothing that would indicate that you needed to
do either section after Section 10. You could hang those puppies up and
forget about them.
Having said that, I feel that I will proceed with at least 11. You have
momentum and familiarity at that point. There will be issues to tackle, and
at this point you aren't in the throws of "get it done ittus" which might
make the process all that much more difficult at a later stage. If you
don't have the room, then don't do this until you move to the airport. But
if you do, you might think about it. You can always take it apart after you
verify that it all fits and works.
Such musings are worth what you paid for them, of course.
John Jessen
~328 (really getting excited and pumped up for step #4, page #15, section
10! )
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: sections 11 and 12
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Rob's comments triggered a memory. Another builder tipped me off to
doublecheck my clearance on the bolt holding a rod end for the trim cable.
We both had minimal clearance, and if you tweaked the rotating arm just
right, you could snag the bolt on the trim bracket slot's edge as it rotated
through. I had to file a little extra out of the slot to give it good
clearance. Everyone doublecheck that you don't have that issue or you could
end up with stuck trim.
It's easy to see if you just use a small battery to have the trim actuate
fully in both directions, and it doesn't require the trim bracket assembly
to be mounted to the tailcone.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Robert G. Wright wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright"
> --> <armywrights@adelphia.net>
>
> I've just completed this part, as much as I'm going to do for a while on
it.
> I went all the way up until where it starts you fitting gap seal and
> the emp fairing, which I don't even have yet.
>
> I also completed the trim mechanism/assembly, and am glad I did. It
> took me a while to get the adjustments correct for full travel on the
> servo. I noticed the motor would slow down and bind itself to a stop
> on one extreme, yet at the other extreme it would shut itself off very
> smartly. My advice on that is to once again take the initial
> measurements as a starting point only, then adjust to get full range
> of travel both on the servo as well as on the trim tabs.
>
> My heartache with this though is having to remove the trim cables and
> assembly - it sure was hard to get in there! Oh well, I've already
> got some small gauge wire wrapped around the ends to pull back through
later.
>
> Rob #392
> Working on QB shipment -- it's at Vans!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:54 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: sections 11 and 12
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I don't see any problem with doing it either way. There's nothing
> really in section 11&12 that's too awful dependent on the rest of the
> build. I did mine after the fact, and others did it in order. I
> don't think there's a problem doing it and disassembling them either,
> John...it just doesn't matter much at all. I, like you and others,
> don't have room to have an assembled empennage sitting around, which
> is why I did it that way. One other thing...
> even if you assemble it all, it'll be a heck of a lot easier to join
> the tailcone to the fuselage later if you don't have all those tail
> feathers attached. That doesn't mean you can't complete them, just
> something to think about. I guess I'd just do whatever feels best,
> and if you choose to push on to the wings, but have a hold-up of some
> sort, you can always touch on those
> sections while you wait. One item that may be worth finishing off
> in order is just to assemble the trim mechanism though...just so you
> have fewer parts laying around to lose.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>
>
>
> John Jessen wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>>
>> I appreciate the advice from Larry and Randy, but being at that same
> stage,
>> and even having the room, I do not see what the rationale is to take
>> my pieces off the walls and expose them to hanger rash if I don't have
to.
>> What is the "have to" rationale behind doing those two steps at this
>> time, other than Larry's good point about getting them done. I'd
>> rather, I
> think,
>> move on to the wings and have the empennage pieces safely out of the way.
>> Is it okay to assemble them, then take them apart and store them, or
>> is
> this
>> not a good thing to do?
>>
>> John Jessen
>> ~328 (Tailcone being disassembled soon for final deburrrrrrrring)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
>> Rosen
>> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 5:03 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: sections 11 and 12
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>>
>> Since I was waiting on my QB wings and Fuselage I did most of
>> sections
>> 11 & 12, and then took it apart for storage. Ideally you would
>> complete
> the
>> sections and keep them together, and for those working in a hanger
>> they
> can
>> do that. It will not work in my garage. Another advantage of doing
>> most
> of
>> 11 & 12 early is that it will speed up final assembly. In my garage
>> I
> would
>> not be able to put the tail feathers on a fuselage with the engine.
>> Just not enough space.
>>
>> Sorry not a definitive answer, but some things to think about.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> Eric_Kallio wrote:
>>
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
>>>
>>> For those of you who have allready moved on past the emmpenage kit
>>> and
>> maybe even flying or close to it, what is your experience on sections
>> 11
> and
>> 12. I am getting ready to rivet the tailcone in the upcoming weeks.
>> Does
> it
>> make sense to complete the next 2 sections fully and then take it
>> apart
> and
>> keep it dis-assembled for a while, or are those sections that should
>> wait until perhaps the finishing kit when I am assuming all the
>> controls are rigged to the cyclic (forgive that term it is the
>> helicopter pilot in me coming out)? Just trying to stay ahead of the game
here. Thanks.
>>> Eric
>>> 40518 Tailcone
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=27444#27444
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
We use Pledge on our Cessnas.....
Rene' Felker
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:07 AM
Cc: Gray, Larry E
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
True, Rain-X should not be used on plexiglass. I believe there is a
product especially for plexiglass. That's what I'm looking for.
Thank You
Rick Conti
office: 703-414-6141
cell: 571-215-6134
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Grimmonpre [mailto:jerry@mc.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
Rick,
I think it's Rainx ... but ... caution, says not to use on plexiglass.
Jerry Grimmonpre'
RV8A
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
Cc: "Gray, Larry E" <larry.e.gray@boeing.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:53 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>
> Does anyone know the name of the wind screen rain repellant product?
>
> Thank You
> Rick Conti
> Senior Engineering Manager
> The Boeing Company
> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
Larry,
Did you happen to see the new bluemountain geneation 4 EFIS? If you did,
I'd be interested in your impressions. It looks pretty nice on their
brochure (but then what product doesn't). I doubt I'll have the cabbage to
go with double Cheltons so I'm going to have to decide between GRT, BMA and
AFS.
-Brian
#40497
N211BD
Iowa City, IA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Rosen" <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:45 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
>
> Advanced Flight Systems new EFIS & Engine monitoring graphics are
> outstanding. Grand Rapids better watch out. Currently the AFS system
> does not have all the functionality as the GRT system, but with the better
> screen it has the potential to blow away the GRT and challenge the Chelton
> systems. But, this will be too late for me.
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| Subject: | Oil Cooler Installation |
BlankMy plans call for riveting the oil cooler duct assembly to the firewall.
Is there a different set of plans for this installation??
Cal Hoffman
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
Hey all -
Is there a way to get air into the overhead panel without putting an
inlet on the intersection fairing? Does that inlet on the fairing seem
like a bummer to anyone else? I really like the look of the overhead
panel though. What is the difference between the 3 flavors? Anyone?
cj
#40410
wings
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
From below
The package comes in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price
is $1,295,
$2,295, and $2,495 respectively.
Larry
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>Larry:
>
>What were the prices on the 3 flavors of overhead panel?
>
>Thanks,
>
>TDT
>
>do not archive
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Larry Rosen
>Sent: Mon 4/10/2006 5:45 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
>It was great to get down to Sun-N-Fun. In the past there was not much
>there and one day was enough, but now that I am building the two days
>was just not enough. Too much to do and see. You can see some of my
>photos here
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/index.html>.
>
>There were 3 customer built RV-10 at the show when I was there.
>Unfortunately I did not get t a close look at the TruTrak RV. But both
>Vic and Tim 10s are great looking. A special thanks to Tim for letting
>me sit in the pilots seat while he turned on the Cheltons and avionics.
>I sat there making airplane noises and dreaming I was flying my
>completed 10.
>
>As you know Tim's panel is has the Cheltons side by side and Vic's are
>up and down, and both would not change the layout. After sitting in
>Tim's plane, side by side works best for me. It sure is great to have
>the flexibility to make your own choice and put the plane together as
>you want.
>
>I had thought that I would put inertial reals in for the seat belts.
>But with the Tims seat belts on tight I could easily reach the panel
and
>the avionics stack over to the right. Vic's Crow Enterprizes belts
with
>the rotary latch look very comfortable. For me it will be fixed belts,
>but the wider hooker or crow type with rotary latches.
>
>Paint cracking happens where the windows meet the fiberglass canopy.
>Vic suggested putting e-glass around the exterior of the window which
>may stop or reduce the cracking.
>
>Vic has his oxygen bottle mounted between the passenger seats. It
>looked like a good place to mount it in lieu of hanging in on the
>co-pilot seat
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Vic%20RV10/slides/2006
-04-07-SnF-25.html>.
>Cirrus has a similar install. If anyone can take a picture of the
>Cirrus O2 installation and email them to me, it would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Accuracy Avionics has an overhead console for the 10. I bought one. I
>have pictures and comments on my web site you can see them here
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Overhead/index.html>.
>Tony and Eric have put together a nice product. It has six cockpit
>lights for the pilot & co-pilot, rear passengers and the baggage area.
>Four vents for overhead ventilation and a bar to hang clothing in the
>baggage area. A scoop mounts to the intersecting fairing and scat
tubes
>connect to the overhead console to pressurize it. There is an area to
>mount an overhead DVD player that flips down (cool). The package comes
>in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price is $1,295,
>$2,295, and $2,495 respectively. The basic is the console straight
from
>the mold and primed. Standard adds the DVD player, six cockpit lights
>and 4 eyeball vents. Deluxe adds installation of the components
>including the nut plates & seal. I bought the standard. Tony and Eric
>are also putting together a center console and a variety of fiberglass
>panels. I cannot wait to see the rest of their offerings.
>Contact information is: Tony Sustare, Accuracy Avionics, 63020 Powel
>Butte Highway, Suite 1, Bend, Oregon 97701
>Phone 866/KIT-PANL email: TonyS at accuracy avionics dot com
>
>Josh from Direct2 had the Chelton SV-10 wire harness there. It looked
>complete and well put together, but it was hard to tell with everything
>curled up. They even have mounts for the GADAHRS and magnetometer
>Hopefully the wire harness will ship to me soon. Chelton is working on
>integrating XM weather in addition to WSI weather to give you a choice.
>
>Avionics Systems <http://www.avionikits.com/> has a modular molded
>fiberglass panel that allows the avionics stack to be located anywhere
>on the panel. They has a system on display with the avionics stack to
>the right of the center rib. If anyone has a photo of this panel
please
>email it to me.
>
>Advanced Flight Systems new EFIS & Engine monitoring graphics are
>outstanding. Grand Rapids better watch out. Currently the AFS system
>does not have all the functionality as the GRT system, but with the
>better screen it has the potential to blow away the GRT and challenge
>the Chelton systems. But, this will be too late for me.
>
>TruTrak is also entering the EFIS marked, but not much info on there
>system. Maybe at OSH. They did announce a RV-10 autopilot. I guess
it
>positioned somewhere between the Sorcerer and Digiflight IIVSGV.
>
>Plane Power's development of a vacuum pad mounted alternator is not
>going to happen in the near future. They are working on STC's for
their
>existing products. They want the alternator to work at low engine RPM
>settings and that will take a while.
>
>E-Mag/P-Mag was not at the show. Sure wish they were. I need to make
a
>decision on an ignition system.
>
>Sorry for the long email. There is probably more that I forgot. Any
>comments or additional observations would be appreciated.
>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Do like I did and scroll down the message a little farther . . .
TDT
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Johnston
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:45 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston"
<CJohnston@popsound.com>
Hey all -
Is there a way to get air into the overhead panel without putting an
inlet on the intersection fairing? Does that inlet on the fairing seem
like a bummer to anyone else? I really like the look of the overhead
panel though. What is the difference between the 3 flavors? Anyone?
cj
#40410
wings
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
From below
The package comes in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price
is $1,295,
$2,295, and $2,495 respectively.
Larry
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>Larry:
>
>What were the prices on the 3 flavors of overhead panel?
>
>Thanks,
>
>TDT
>
>do not archive
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Larry Rosen
>Sent: Mon 4/10/2006 5:45 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
>It was great to get down to Sun-N-Fun. In the past there was not much
>there and one day was enough, but now that I am building the two days
>was just not enough. Too much to do and see. You can see some of my
>photos here
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/index.html>.
>
>There were 3 customer built RV-10 at the show when I was there.
>Unfortunately I did not get t a close look at the TruTrak RV. But both
>Vic and Tim 10s are great looking. A special thanks to Tim for letting
>me sit in the pilots seat while he turned on the Cheltons and avionics.
>I sat there making airplane noises and dreaming I was flying my
>completed 10.
>
>As you know Tim's panel is has the Cheltons side by side and Vic's are
>up and down, and both would not change the layout. After sitting in
>Tim's plane, side by side works best for me. It sure is great to have
>the flexibility to make your own choice and put the plane together as
>you want.
>
>I had thought that I would put inertial reals in for the seat belts.
>But with the Tims seat belts on tight I could easily reach the panel
and
>the avionics stack over to the right. Vic's Crow Enterprizes belts
with
>the rotary latch look very comfortable. For me it will be fixed belts,
>but the wider hooker or crow type with rotary latches.
>
>Paint cracking happens where the windows meet the fiberglass canopy.
>Vic suggested putting e-glass around the exterior of the window which
>may stop or reduce the cracking.
>
>Vic has his oxygen bottle mounted between the passenger seats. It
>looked like a good place to mount it in lieu of hanging in on the
>co-pilot seat
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Vic%20RV10/slides/2006
-04-07-SnF-25.html>.
>Cirrus has a similar install. If anyone can take a picture of the
>Cirrus O2 installation and email them to me, it would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Accuracy Avionics has an overhead console for the 10. I bought one. I
>have pictures and comments on my web site you can see them here
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Overhead/index.html>.
>Tony and Eric have put together a nice product. It has six cockpit
>lights for the pilot & co-pilot, rear passengers and the baggage area.
>Four vents for overhead ventilation and a bar to hang clothing in the
>baggage area. A scoop mounts to the intersecting fairing and scat
tubes
>connect to the overhead console to pressurize it. There is an area to
>mount an overhead DVD player that flips down (cool). The package comes
>in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price is $1,295,
>$2,295, and $2,495 respectively. The basic is the console straight
from
>the mold and primed. Standard adds the DVD player, six cockpit lights
>and 4 eyeball vents. Deluxe adds installation of the components
>including the nut plates & seal. I bought the standard. Tony and Eric
>are also putting together a center console and a variety of fiberglass
>panels. I cannot wait to see the rest of their offerings.
>Contact information is: Tony Sustare, Accuracy Avionics, 63020 Powel
>Butte Highway, Suite 1, Bend, Oregon 97701
>Phone 866/KIT-PANL email: TonyS at accuracy avionics dot com
>
>Josh from Direct2 had the Chelton SV-10 wire harness there. It looked
>complete and well put together, but it was hard to tell with everything
>curled up. They even have mounts for the GADAHRS and magnetometer
>Hopefully the wire harness will ship to me soon. Chelton is working on
>integrating XM weather in addition to WSI weather to give you a choice.
>
>Avionics Systems <http://www.avionikits.com/> has a modular molded
>fiberglass panel that allows the avionics stack to be located anywhere
>on the panel. They has a system on display with the avionics stack to
>the right of the center rib. If anyone has a photo of this panel
please
>email it to me.
>
>Advanced Flight Systems new EFIS & Engine monitoring graphics are
>outstanding. Grand Rapids better watch out. Currently the AFS system
>does not have all the functionality as the GRT system, but with the
>better screen it has the potential to blow away the GRT and challenge
>the Chelton systems. But, this will be too late for me.
>
>TruTrak is also entering the EFIS marked, but not much info on there
>system. Maybe at OSH. They did announce a RV-10 autopilot. I guess
it
>positioned somewhere between the Sorcerer and Digiflight IIVSGV.
>
>Plane Power's development of a vacuum pad mounted alternator is not
>going to happen in the near future. They are working on STC's for
their
>existing products. They want the alternator to work at low engine RPM
>settings and that will take a while.
>
>E-Mag/P-Mag was not at the show. Sure wish they were. I need to make
a
>decision on an ignition system.
>
>Sorry for the long email. There is probably more that I forgot. Any
>comments or additional observations would be appreciated.
>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Yes, it does seem like a bummer to have that air inlet there and it looks
much too large for air moving at say 180mph or more. (Drag bucket) I also
wonder whether the propeller swirl (P-factor)will cause some of the exhaust
gasses to find there way up into that air scoop.
I also wonder about moisture.
The overhead does look great however.
John G. #409
No not archive
>From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:44:36 -0700
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
>
>Hey all -
>
>Is there a way to get air into the overhead panel without putting an
>inlet on the intersection fairing? Does that inlet on the fairing seem
>like a bummer to anyone else? I really like the look of the overhead
>panel though. What is the difference between the 3 flavors? Anyone?
>
>cj
>#40410
>wings
>www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
>Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:24 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> From below
>
>The package comes in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price
>is $1,295,
>$2,295, and $2,495 respectively.
>
>Larry
>
>
>Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>
> >Larry:
> >
> >What were the prices on the 3 flavors of overhead panel?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >TDT
> >
> >do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Larry Rosen
> >Sent: Mon 4/10/2006 5:45 PM
> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
> >
> >--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
> >
> >It was great to get down to Sun-N-Fun. In the past there was not much
> >there and one day was enough, but now that I am building the two days
> >was just not enough. Too much to do and see. You can see some of my
> >photos here
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/index.html>.
> >
> >There were 3 customer built RV-10 at the show when I was there.
> >Unfortunately I did not get t a close look at the TruTrak RV. But both
>
> >Vic and Tim 10s are great looking. A special thanks to Tim for letting
>
> >me sit in the pilots seat while he turned on the Cheltons and avionics.
>
> >I sat there making airplane noises and dreaming I was flying my
> >completed 10.
> >
> >As you know Tim's panel is has the Cheltons side by side and Vic's are
> >up and down, and both would not change the layout. After sitting in
> >Tim's plane, side by side works best for me. It sure is great to have
> >the flexibility to make your own choice and put the plane together as
> >you want.
> >
> >I had thought that I would put inertial reals in for the seat belts.
> >But with the Tims seat belts on tight I could easily reach the panel
>and
> >the avionics stack over to the right. Vic's Crow Enterprizes belts
>with
> >the rotary latch look very comfortable. For me it will be fixed belts,
>
> >but the wider hooker or crow type with rotary latches.
> >
> >Paint cracking happens where the windows meet the fiberglass canopy.
> >Vic suggested putting e-glass around the exterior of the window which
> >may stop or reduce the cracking.
> >
> >Vic has his oxygen bottle mounted between the passenger seats. It
> >looked like a good place to mount it in lieu of hanging in on the
> >co-pilot seat
> ><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Vic%20RV10/slides/2006
>-04-07-SnF-25.html>.
> >Cirrus has a similar install. If anyone can take a picture of the
> >Cirrus O2 installation and email them to me, it would be greatly
> >appreciated.
> >
> >Accuracy Avionics has an overhead console for the 10. I bought one. I
>
> >have pictures and comments on my web site you can see them here
> ><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Overhead/index.html>.
>
> >Tony and Eric have put together a nice product. It has six cockpit
> >lights for the pilot & co-pilot, rear passengers and the baggage area.
>
> >Four vents for overhead ventilation and a bar to hang clothing in the
> >baggage area. A scoop mounts to the intersecting fairing and scat
>tubes
> >connect to the overhead console to pressurize it. There is an area to
>
> >mount an overhead DVD player that flips down (cool). The package comes
>
> >in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price is $1,295,
> >$2,295, and $2,495 respectively. The basic is the console straight
>from
> >the mold and primed. Standard adds the DVD player, six cockpit lights
> >and 4 eyeball vents. Deluxe adds installation of the components
> >including the nut plates & seal. I bought the standard. Tony and Eric
>
> >are also putting together a center console and a variety of fiberglass
> >panels. I cannot wait to see the rest of their offerings.
> >Contact information is: Tony Sustare, Accuracy Avionics, 63020 Powel
> >Butte Highway, Suite 1, Bend, Oregon 97701
> >Phone 866/KIT-PANL email: TonyS at accuracy avionics dot com
> >
> >Josh from Direct2 had the Chelton SV-10 wire harness there. It looked
> >complete and well put together, but it was hard to tell with everything
>
> >curled up. They even have mounts for the GADAHRS and magnetometer
> >Hopefully the wire harness will ship to me soon. Chelton is working on
>
> >integrating XM weather in addition to WSI weather to give you a choice.
> >
> >Avionics Systems <http://www.avionikits.com/> has a modular molded
> >fiberglass panel that allows the avionics stack to be located anywhere
> >on the panel. They has a system on display with the avionics stack to
> >the right of the center rib. If anyone has a photo of this panel
>please
> >email it to me.
> >
> >Advanced Flight Systems new EFIS & Engine monitoring graphics are
> >outstanding. Grand Rapids better watch out. Currently the AFS system
> >does not have all the functionality as the GRT system, but with the
> >better screen it has the potential to blow away the GRT and challenge
> >the Chelton systems. But, this will be too late for me.
> >
> >TruTrak is also entering the EFIS marked, but not much info on there
> >system. Maybe at OSH. They did announce a RV-10 autopilot. I guess
>it
> >positioned somewhere between the Sorcerer and Digiflight IIVSGV.
> >
> >Plane Power's development of a vacuum pad mounted alternator is not
> >going to happen in the near future. They are working on STC's for
>their
> >existing products. They want the alternator to work at low engine RPM
> >settings and that will take a while.
> >
> >E-Mag/P-Mag was not at the show. Sure wish they were. I need to make
>a
> >decision on an ignition system.
> >
> >Sorry for the long email. There is probably more that I forgot. Any
> >comments or additional observations would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
I would think that you would get a lot of water in the system with that
scoop back there. You could with the normal vents too, but with them
closed, the water won't be able to get in an fill up a scat tube or
anything. I would think there would have to be a way to close up the scoop
if nothing else. The overhead panel looks great, though. Now, to figure
out a way to do that myself without forking out the $1,300....or just do
without it.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of
May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check
from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at
352-465-4545.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
Hey all -
Is there a way to get air into the overhead panel without putting an
inlet on the intersection fairing? Does that inlet on the fairing seem
like a bummer to anyone else? I really like the look of the overhead
panel though. What is the difference between the 3 flavors? Anyone?
cj
#40410
wings
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
From below
The package comes in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price
is $1,295,
$2,295, and $2,495 respectively.
Larry
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>Larry:
>
>What were the prices on the 3 flavors of overhead panel?
>
>Thanks,
>
>TDT
>
>do not archive
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Larry Rosen
>Sent: Mon 4/10/2006 5:45 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
>It was great to get down to Sun-N-Fun. In the past there was not much
>there and one day was enough, but now that I am building the two days
>was just not enough. Too much to do and see. You can see some of my
>photos here
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/index.html>.
>
>There were 3 customer built RV-10 at the show when I was there.
>Unfortunately I did not get t a close look at the TruTrak RV. But both
>Vic and Tim 10s are great looking. A special thanks to Tim for letting
>me sit in the pilots seat while he turned on the Cheltons and avionics.
>I sat there making airplane noises and dreaming I was flying my
>completed 10.
>
>As you know Tim's panel is has the Cheltons side by side and Vic's are
>up and down, and both would not change the layout. After sitting in
>Tim's plane, side by side works best for me. It sure is great to have
>the flexibility to make your own choice and put the plane together as
>you want.
>
>I had thought that I would put inertial reals in for the seat belts.
>But with the Tims seat belts on tight I could easily reach the panel
and
>the avionics stack over to the right. Vic's Crow Enterprizes belts
with
>the rotary latch look very comfortable. For me it will be fixed belts,
>but the wider hooker or crow type with rotary latches.
>
>Paint cracking happens where the windows meet the fiberglass canopy.
>Vic suggested putting e-glass around the exterior of the window which
>may stop or reduce the cracking.
>
>Vic has his oxygen bottle mounted between the passenger seats. It
>looked like a good place to mount it in lieu of hanging in on the
>co-pilot seat
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Vic%20RV10/slides/2006
-04-07-SnF-25.html>.
>Cirrus has a similar install. If anyone can take a picture of the
>Cirrus O2 installation and email them to me, it would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Accuracy Avionics has an overhead console for the 10. I bought one. I
>have pictures and comments on my web site you can see them here
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Overhead/index.html>.
>Tony and Eric have put together a nice product. It has six cockpit
>lights for the pilot & co-pilot, rear passengers and the baggage area.
>Four vents for overhead ventilation and a bar to hang clothing in the
>baggage area. A scoop mounts to the intersecting fairing and scat
tubes
>connect to the overhead console to pressurize it. There is an area to
>mount an overhead DVD player that flips down (cool). The package comes
>in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price is $1,295,
>$2,295, and $2,495 respectively. The basic is the console straight
from
>the mold and primed. Standard adds the DVD player, six cockpit lights
>and 4 eyeball vents. Deluxe adds installation of the components
>including the nut plates & seal. I bought the standard. Tony and Eric
>are also putting together a center console and a variety of fiberglass
>panels. I cannot wait to see the rest of their offerings.
>Contact information is: Tony Sustare, Accuracy Avionics, 63020 Powel
>Butte Highway, Suite 1, Bend, Oregon 97701
>Phone 866/KIT-PANL email: TonyS at accuracy avionics dot com
>
>Josh from Direct2 had the Chelton SV-10 wire harness there. It looked
>complete and well put together, but it was hard to tell with everything
>curled up. They even have mounts for the GADAHRS and magnetometer
>Hopefully the wire harness will ship to me soon. Chelton is working on
>integrating XM weather in addition to WSI weather to give you a choice.
>
>Avionics Systems <http://www.avionikits.com/> has a modular molded
>fiberglass panel that allows the avionics stack to be located anywhere
>on the panel. They has a system on display with the avionics stack to
>the right of the center rib. If anyone has a photo of this panel
please
>email it to me.
>
>Advanced Flight Systems new EFIS & Engine monitoring graphics are
>outstanding. Grand Rapids better watch out. Currently the AFS system
>does not have all the functionality as the GRT system, but with the
>better screen it has the potential to blow away the GRT and challenge
>the Chelton systems. But, this will be too late for me.
>
>TruTrak is also entering the EFIS marked, but not much info on there
>system. Maybe at OSH. They did announce a RV-10 autopilot. I guess
it
>positioned somewhere between the Sorcerer and Digiflight IIVSGV.
>
>Plane Power's development of a vacuum pad mounted alternator is not
>going to happen in the near future. They are working on STC's for
their
>existing products. They want the alternator to work at low engine RPM
>settings and that will take a while.
>
>E-Mag/P-Mag was not at the show. Sure wish they were. I need to make
a
>decision on an ignition system.
>
>Sorry for the long email. There is probably more that I forgot. Any
>comments or additional observations would be appreciated.
>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
cj,
To your point about the inlet fairing, all I can add is that the
people looking into the air pressures at various part so
of the fuselage seem to have some experience in these matters and
they determined that a standard flush NACA may not have enough
pressure to provide the air pressure in the chamber. They thought
it may possibly even provide a vacuum instead of pressure, so
they designed a scoop that would get into the airstream and
provide some positive pressure. Like anything, there are tradeoffs,
such as drag, but the comfort has value too. I don't think it will
look bad when done at all.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
> Johnston
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:45 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston"
> <CJohnston@popsound.com>
>
> Hey all -
>
> Is there a way to get air into the overhead panel without putting an
> inlet on the intersection fairing? Does that inlet on the fairing seem
> like a bummer to anyone else? I really like the look of the overhead
> panel though. What is the difference between the 3 flavors? Anyone?
>
> cj
> #40410
> wings
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:24 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> From below
>
> The package comes in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price
> is $1,295,
> $2,295, and $2,495 respectively.
>
> Larry
>
>
> Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>
>> Larry:
>>
>> What were the prices on the 3 flavors of overhead panel?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> TDT
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Larry Rosen
>> Sent: Mon 4/10/2006 5:45 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>>
>> It was great to get down to Sun-N-Fun. In the past there was not much
>> there and one day was enough, but now that I am building the two days
>> was just not enough. Too much to do and see. You can see some of my
>> photos here
> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/index.html>.
>> There were 3 customer built RV-10 at the show when I was there.
>> Unfortunately I did not get t a close look at the TruTrak RV. But both
>
>> Vic and Tim 10s are great looking. A special thanks to Tim for letting
>
>> me sit in the pilots seat while he turned on the Cheltons and avionics.
>
>> I sat there making airplane noises and dreaming I was flying my
>> completed 10.
>>
>> As you know Tim's panel is has the Cheltons side by side and Vic's are
>> up and down, and both would not change the layout. After sitting in
>> Tim's plane, side by side works best for me. It sure is great to have
>> the flexibility to make your own choice and put the plane together as
>> you want.
>>
>> I had thought that I would put inertial reals in for the seat belts.
>> But with the Tims seat belts on tight I could easily reach the panel
> and
>> the avionics stack over to the right. Vic's Crow Enterprizes belts
> with
>> the rotary latch look very comfortable. For me it will be fixed belts,
>
>> but the wider hooker or crow type with rotary latches.
>>
>> Paint cracking happens where the windows meet the fiberglass canopy.
>> Vic suggested putting e-glass around the exterior of the window which
>> may stop or reduce the cracking.
>>
>> Vic has his oxygen bottle mounted between the passenger seats. It
>> looked like a good place to mount it in lieu of hanging in on the
>> co-pilot seat
>> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Vic%20RV10/slides/2006
> -04-07-SnF-25.html>.
>> Cirrus has a similar install. If anyone can take a picture of the
>> Cirrus O2 installation and email them to me, it would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Accuracy Avionics has an overhead console for the 10. I bought one. I
>
>> have pictures and comments on my web site you can see them here
>> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Overhead/index.html>.
>
>> Tony and Eric have put together a nice product. It has six cockpit
>> lights for the pilot & co-pilot, rear passengers and the baggage area.
>
>> Four vents for overhead ventilation and a bar to hang clothing in the
>> baggage area. A scoop mounts to the intersecting fairing and scat
> tubes
>> connect to the overhead console to pressurize it. There is an area to
>
>> mount an overhead DVD player that flips down (cool). The package comes
>
>> in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price is $1,295,
>> $2,295, and $2,495 respectively. The basic is the console straight
> from
>> the mold and primed. Standard adds the DVD player, six cockpit lights
>> and 4 eyeball vents. Deluxe adds installation of the components
>> including the nut plates & seal. I bought the standard. Tony and Eric
>
>> are also putting together a center console and a variety of fiberglass
>> panels. I cannot wait to see the rest of their offerings.
>> Contact information is: Tony Sustare, Accuracy Avionics, 63020 Powel
>> Butte Highway, Suite 1, Bend, Oregon 97701
>> Phone 866/KIT-PANL email: TonyS at accuracy avionics dot com
>>
>> Josh from Direct2 had the Chelton SV-10 wire harness there. It looked
>> complete and well put together, but it was hard to tell with everything
>
>> curled up. They even have mounts for the GADAHRS and magnetometer
>> Hopefully the wire harness will ship to me soon. Chelton is working on
>
>> integrating XM weather in addition to WSI weather to give you a choice.
>>
>> Avionics Systems <http://www.avionikits.com/> has a modular molded
>> fiberglass panel that allows the avionics stack to be located anywhere
>> on the panel. They has a system on display with the avionics stack to
>> the right of the center rib. If anyone has a photo of this panel
> please
>> email it to me.
>>
>> Advanced Flight Systems new EFIS & Engine monitoring graphics are
>> outstanding. Grand Rapids better watch out. Currently the AFS system
>> does not have all the functionality as the GRT system, but with the
>> better screen it has the potential to blow away the GRT and challenge
>> the Chelton systems. But, this will be too late for me.
>>
>> TruTrak is also entering the EFIS marked, but not much info on there
>> system. Maybe at OSH. They did announce a RV-10 autopilot. I guess
> it
>> positioned somewhere between the Sorcerer and Digiflight IIVSGV.
>>
>> Plane Power's development of a vacuum pad mounted alternator is not
>> going to happen in the near future. They are working on STC's for
> their
>> existing products. They want the alternator to work at low engine RPM
>> settings and that will take a while.
>>
>> E-Mag/P-Mag was not at the show. Sure wish they were. I need to make
> a
>> decision on an ignition system.
>>
>> Sorry for the long email. There is probably more that I forgot. Any
>> comments or additional observations would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Mmm. Remote-contrlled electric servos closing the vents . . .
Perihelion will sell you some . . .
TDT
40025
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
I would think that you would get a lot of water in the system with that
scoop back there. You could with the normal vents too, but with them
closed, the water won't be able to get in an fill up a scat tube or
anything. I would think there would have to be a way to close up the
scoop
if nothing else. The overhead panel looks great, though. Now, to
figure
out a way to do that myself without forking out the $1,300....or just do
without it.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of
May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can
check
from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office
at
352-465-4545.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Johnston
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston"
<CJohnston@popsound.com>
Hey all -
Is there a way to get air into the overhead panel without putting an
inlet on the intersection fairing? Does that inlet on the fairing seem
like a bummer to anyone else? I really like the look of the overhead
panel though. What is the difference between the 3 flavors? Anyone?
cj
#40410
wings
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
From below
The package comes in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price
is $1,295,
$2,295, and $2,495 respectively.
Larry
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>Larry:
>
>What were the prices on the 3 flavors of overhead panel?
>
>Thanks,
>
>TDT
>
>do not archive
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Larry Rosen
>Sent: Mon 4/10/2006 5:45 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
>It was great to get down to Sun-N-Fun. In the past there was not much
>there and one day was enough, but now that I am building the two days
>was just not enough. Too much to do and see. You can see some of my
>photos here
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/index.html>.
>
>There were 3 customer built RV-10 at the show when I was there.
>Unfortunately I did not get t a close look at the TruTrak RV. But both
>Vic and Tim 10s are great looking. A special thanks to Tim for letting
>me sit in the pilots seat while he turned on the Cheltons and avionics.
>I sat there making airplane noises and dreaming I was flying my
>completed 10.
>
>As you know Tim's panel is has the Cheltons side by side and Vic's are
>up and down, and both would not change the layout. After sitting in
>Tim's plane, side by side works best for me. It sure is great to have
>the flexibility to make your own choice and put the plane together as
>you want.
>
>I had thought that I would put inertial reals in for the seat belts.
>But with the Tims seat belts on tight I could easily reach the panel
and
>the avionics stack over to the right. Vic's Crow Enterprizes belts
with
>the rotary latch look very comfortable. For me it will be fixed belts,
>but the wider hooker or crow type with rotary latches.
>
>Paint cracking happens where the windows meet the fiberglass canopy.
>Vic suggested putting e-glass around the exterior of the window which
>may stop or reduce the cracking.
>
>Vic has his oxygen bottle mounted between the passenger seats. It
>looked like a good place to mount it in lieu of hanging in on the
>co-pilot seat
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Vic%20RV10/slides/2006
-04-07-SnF-25.html>.
>Cirrus has a similar install. If anyone can take a picture of the
>Cirrus O2 installation and email them to me, it would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Accuracy Avionics has an overhead console for the 10. I bought one. I
>have pictures and comments on my web site you can see them here
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Overhead/index.html>.
>Tony and Eric have put together a nice product. It has six cockpit
>lights for the pilot & co-pilot, rear passengers and the baggage area.
>Four vents for overhead ventilation and a bar to hang clothing in the
>baggage area. A scoop mounts to the intersecting fairing and scat
tubes
>connect to the overhead console to pressurize it. There is an area to
>mount an overhead DVD player that flips down (cool). The package comes
>in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price is $1,295,
>$2,295, and $2,495 respectively. The basic is the console straight
from
>the mold and primed. Standard adds the DVD player, six cockpit lights
>and 4 eyeball vents. Deluxe adds installation of the components
>including the nut plates & seal. I bought the standard. Tony and Eric
>are also putting together a center console and a variety of fiberglass
>panels. I cannot wait to see the rest of their offerings.
>Contact information is: Tony Sustare, Accuracy Avionics, 63020 Powel
>Butte Highway, Suite 1, Bend, Oregon 97701
>Phone 866/KIT-PANL email: TonyS at accuracy avionics dot com
>
>Josh from Direct2 had the Chelton SV-10 wire harness there. It looked
>complete and well put together, but it was hard to tell with everything
>curled up. They even have mounts for the GADAHRS and magnetometer
>Hopefully the wire harness will ship to me soon. Chelton is working on
>integrating XM weather in addition to WSI weather to give you a choice.
>
>Avionics Systems <http://www.avionikits.com/> has a modular molded
>fiberglass panel that allows the avionics stack to be located anywhere
>on the panel. They has a system on display with the avionics stack to
>the right of the center rib. If anyone has a photo of this panel
please
>email it to me.
>
>Advanced Flight Systems new EFIS & Engine monitoring graphics are
>outstanding. Grand Rapids better watch out. Currently the AFS system
>does not have all the functionality as the GRT system, but with the
>better screen it has the potential to blow away the GRT and challenge
>the Chelton systems. But, this will be too late for me.
>
>TruTrak is also entering the EFIS marked, but not much info on there
>system. Maybe at OSH. They did announce a RV-10 autopilot. I guess
it
>positioned somewhere between the Sorcerer and Digiflight IIVSGV.
>
>Plane Power's development of a vacuum pad mounted alternator is not
>going to happen in the near future. They are working on STC's for
their
>existing products. They want the alternator to work at low engine RPM
>settings and that will take a while.
>
>E-Mag/P-Mag was not at the show. Sure wish they were. I need to make
a
>decision on an ignition system.
>
>Sorry for the long email. There is probably more that I forgot. Any
>comments or additional observations would be appreciated.
>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "David Hertner" <effectus@rogers.com>
Listers,
It seems to me that it wouldn't be all that difficult to incorporate one of
Van's NACA scoups onto the tail fairing rather than the one they showed in
the pictures. That thing looks like it would create a lot of drag.
Dave Hertner
#40164
Emp Done.
Bal of Kit Arrives June 1
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
>
> Hey all -
>
> Is there a way to get air into the overhead panel without putting an
> inlet on the intersection fairing? Does that inlet on the fairing seem
> like a bummer to anyone else? I really like the look of the overhead
> panel though. What is the difference between the 3 flavors? Anyone?
>
> cj
> #40410
> wings
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
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Attached is a picture of the antenna install. I just have a digest
subscription, do pictures get forwarded out to the list?
-Jim McGrew
40134
Time: 09:02:26 AM PST US
From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
Jim,
Might you have a picture or two of the install?
John Jessen
do not archive
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JSMcGrew@aol.com
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:41 AM
Subject: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
Dick,
I put my ELT antenna in the right aft corner of the baggage compartment. I
riveted a small .063 plate with a hole in it onto the .125" aluminum angle.
I attached the antenna to that plate. I glassed an AN3 bolt onto the inside
of the canopy top just above and used this to bolt on a cushioned clamp that
secures the top end of the antenna. Since my ELT is just behind the baggage
compartment bulkhead there, the antenna wire run is all of about 3'.
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
40134
Time: 09:01:47 PM PST US
From: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
Looking for some ideas on a location to mount the ELT antenna other than on
top
of the fuselage.
I am thinking about mounting on a corner plate where the top longeron meets
the
rear baggage bulkhead with the wire end secured in a cushion clamp.
Other ideas?
Thanks
Dick Sipp
40065
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
jsmcgrew@aol.com
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
Tim -
I couldn't find it on your site - do you have air vents? Where? Can you
weigh in on the potential importance and/or coolness (pun) of overhead
fresh air?
cj
#40410
wings
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Hertner
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David Hertner" <effectus@rogers.com>
Listers,
It seems to me that it wouldn't be all that difficult to incorporate one
of
Van's NACA scoups onto the tail fairing rather than the one they showed
in
the pictures. That thing looks like it would create a lot of drag.
Dave Hertner
#40164
Emp Done.
Bal of Kit Arrives June 1
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston"
<CJohnston@popsound.com>
>
> Hey all -
>
> Is there a way to get air into the overhead panel without putting an
> inlet on the intersection fairing? Does that inlet on the fairing
seem
> like a bummer to anyone else? I really like the look of the overhead
> panel though. What is the difference between the 3 flavors? Anyone?
>
> cj
> #40410
> wings
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
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Looks nice. Anyone want to comment on how well the signal can get
through the cabin lid?
TDT
40025
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
JSMcGrew@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
Attached is a picture of the antenna install. I just have a digest
subscription, do pictures get forwarded out to the list?
-Jim McGrew
40134
Time: 09:02:26 AM PST US
From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
Jim,
Might you have a picture or two of the install?
John Jessen
do not archive
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
JSMcGrew@aol.com
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:41 AM
Subject: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
Dick,
I put my ELT antenna in the right aft corner of the baggage compartment.
I
riveted a small .063 plate with a hole in it onto the .125" aluminum
angle.
I attached the antenna to that plate. I glassed an AN3 bolt onto the
inside
of the canopy top just above and used this to bolt on a cushioned clamp
that
secures the top end of the antenna. Since my ELT is just behind the
baggage
compartment bulkhead there, the antenna wire run is all of about 3'.
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
40134
Time: 09:01:47 PM PST US
From: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
Looking for some ideas on a location to mount the ELT antenna other than
on
top
of the fuselage.
I am thinking about mounting on a corner plate where the top longeron
meets
the
rear baggage bulkhead with the wire end secured in a cushion clamp.
Other ideas?
Thanks
Dick Sipp
40065
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
jsmcgrew@aol.com
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| Subject: | Sun-N-Fun my comments |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>
The Lancair ES uses a similar method to provide air to the cabin. Comes
in the tail and uses an overhead duct for distribution. It also have a
water collection point inside the tail area with a drain tube. Some of
the ES folks have installed a fan in the tubing to help with ground
cooling. I think the fan is actually a bilge pump of some sort.
Bobby
40116
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Hertner
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David Hertner" <effectus@rogers.com>
Listers,
It seems to me that it wouldn't be all that difficult to incorporate one
of Van's NACA scoups onto the tail fairing rather than the one they
showed in the pictures. That thing looks like it would create a lot of
drag.
Dave Hertner
#40164
Emp Done.
Bal of Kit Arrives June 1
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston"
<CJohnston@popsound.com>
>
> Hey all -
>
> Is there a way to get air into the overhead panel without putting an
> inlet on the intersection fairing? Does that inlet on the fairing
seem
> like a bummer to anyone else? I really like the look of the overhead
> panel though. What is the difference between the 3 flavors? Anyone?
>
> cj
> #40410
> wings
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: pcasson@sasktel.net
I'd also like to see a short version. No need for front vents, but room for
GPS & XM radio antennas, DVD, and lights for the back.
For those flying are the current rear vents inadequate?
Wiring....
Perry Casson
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Cory Emberson <bootless@earthlink.net>
Are you thinking of RainAway?
AeroShell PlexiCoat works well, too.
best, Cory
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rene Felker <rene@felker.com>
>Sent: Apr 11, 2006 8:23 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>
>We use Pledge on our Cessnas.....
>
>Rene' Felker
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick
>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:07 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Cc: Gray, Larry E
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>
>True, Rain-X should not be used on plexiglass. I believe there is a
>product especially for plexiglass. That's what I'm looking for.
>
>Thank You
>Rick Conti
>office: 703-414-6141
> cell: 571-215-6134
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jerry Grimmonpre [mailto:jerry@mc.net]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:51 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
>
>Rick,
>I think it's Rainx ... but ... caution, says not to use on plexiglass.
>Jerry Grimmonpre'
>RV8A
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>To: "RV 10" <rv10-list-digest@matronics.com>
>Cc: "Gray, Larry E" <larry.e.gray@boeing.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:53 AM
>Subject: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
>
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>>
>> Does anyone know the name of the wind screen rain repellant product?
>>
>> Thank You
>> Rick Conti
>> Senior Engineering Manager
>> The Boeing Company
>> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
>> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
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| Subject: | Sun-N-Fun my comments |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robin Marks" <robin@mrmoisture.com>
My 1953 D35 Bonanza has an adjustable scoop that sits on the top
centerline of the plane and controlled by a cable. It also has a section
inside the cabin to place a wet sponge so that when the ram air passes
over the wet sponge you get a swamp cooler style air conditioner. Works
great! The added bonus is that in cool temps you just close the scoop
and retain the original aerodynamics. I think the image of the scoop
will probably look keen when complete but I sure don't want that hanging
out all the time.
Robin
RV-6A 300 Hours
RV-10 QB On Order
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| Subject: | Step 4 page 10-15 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@cox-internet.com>
John;
Just took my tailcone apart today. I've been dreading taking it all
back apart. Now comes the part where we get the cogsdill deburring
tools to do their part. I am pumped at seeing a large section getting
done. I saw where one of the web sites the person spent 7 hrs priming
parts. Will have to get the big spray gun out.
Fred Williams
40515
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| Subject: | Door latch covering |
I am in the process of covering my door interior surfaces with material.
Does any one have any good photos that you could post or forward of how
best to cover the latch mechanism area. I have looked through several
builder sites and couldn't find a photo that showed good detail. Also
couldn't dig up anything in the archives.
My goal is a cover that could be removed for fairly easy access to the
mechanism but would make the door panel look clean with out seeing the
latching gears.
Any suggestions appreciated.
Thanks,
Byron #40253 finishing kit.
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
I use Plexus on my 10. It is available at all aircraft supply houses and
Van's carries it as well. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cory Emberson
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
--> RV10-List message posted by: Cory Emberson <bootless@earthlink.net>
Are you thinking of RainAway?
AeroShell PlexiCoat works well, too.
best, Cory
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rene Felker <rene@felker.com>
>Sent: Apr 11, 2006 8:23 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>
>We use Pledge on our Cessnas.....
>
>Rene' Felker
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Conti, Rick
>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:07 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Cc: Gray, Larry E
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>
>True, Rain-X should not be used on plexiglass. I believe there is a
>product especially for plexiglass. That's what I'm looking for.
>
>Thank You
>Rick Conti
>office: 703-414-6141
> cell: 571-215-6134
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jerry Grimmonpre [mailto:jerry@mc.net]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:51 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
>
>Rick,
>I think it's Rainx ... but ... caution, says not to use on plexiglass.
>Jerry Grimmonpre'
>RV8A
>DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>To: "RV 10" <rv10-list-digest@matronics.com>
>Cc: "Gray, Larry E" <larry.e.gray@boeing.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:53 AM
>Subject: RV10-List: Rain Repellant
>
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick"
<rick.conti@boeing.com>
>>
>> Does anyone know the name of the wind screen rain repellant product?
>>
>> Thank You
>> Rick Conti
>> Senior Engineering Manager
>> The Boeing Company
>> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
>> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
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| Subject: | Twenty Nine Palms |
I am heading to Twenty Nine Palms Ca. this Friday. Is there anyone who
has used that airport? Any thing I should know about it. Thanks,
Randy
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| Subject: | Sun-N-Fun my comments |
Talking to Alex DeDominicis (sp?), The Sorcerer's VOR/ILS/GS functions are
removed, a yaw dampener is added. Alex's wife felt a lot of waggle in the
back seat since it's behind the spar, so he adjusted the software for the
price of the VOR/ILS/GS. In his -10 he can overlay any approach he wants to
using the GNS480, so he sees no real loss of functionality, and he gains the
yaw dampener.
Randy, Jesse, Tim, others flying, thoughts about your back seaters'
experiences?
Rob #392
Waiting QB shipment
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
Sorry TDT you're correct...they do not have it on the web site as of last
week, and other than a pix they did not have a data sheet, that I was aware
of, so the fellow said that it would not intercept the final approach
course...I was assuming he meant an ILS and not a GPS/WAAS approach...but
I'm not really sure that is correct.
Hopefully they will have it on the site soon.
P
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments |
--> RV10-List message posted by: LarryRosen@comcast.net
I did not bother looking at the bluemountain stuff. IMHO it is to experimental
for my taste. Also, I am already committed to the Cheltons.
GRT has almost everything you could want, but their graphics just stink.
ASF has the graphics and the potential if you are willing to wait.
Just think all the choices we will have when we build our next airplane. :-)
Larry
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
>
> Larry,
>
> Did you happen to see the new bluemountain geneation 4 EFIS? If you did,
> I'd be interested in your impressions. It looks pretty nice on their
> brochure (but then what product doesn't). I doubt I'll have the cabbage to
> go with double Cheltons so I'm going to have to decide between GRT, BMA and
> AFS.
>
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> -Brian
>
> #40497
> N211BD
> Iowa City, IA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry Rosen" <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:45 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
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> > --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
> >
> >
> > Advanced Flight Systems new EFIS & Engine monitoring graphics are
> > outstanding. Grand Rapids better watch out. Currently the AFS system
> > does not have all the functionality as the GRT system, but with the better
> > screen it has the potential to blow away the GRT and challenge the Chelton
> > systems. But, this will be too late for me.
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| Subject: | Sun-N-Fun my comments |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
For those of you putting in the overhead venting, is this for air
conditioning? If so, will you be able to reroute your heating air to the
floor in the winter, or will you output air to all the vents all the time?
What device will you use to split?
Rob
#392
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
Hey all -
Is there a way to get air into the overhead panel without putting an
inlet on the intersection fairing? Does that inlet on the fairing seem
like a bummer to anyone else? I really like the look of the overhead
panel though. What is the difference between the 3 flavors? Anyone?
cj
#40410
wings
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
From below
The package comes in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price
is $1,295,
$2,295, and $2,495 respectively.
Larry
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>Larry:
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>What were the prices on the 3 flavors of overhead panel?
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>Thanks,
>
>TDT
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>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Larry Rosen
>Sent: Mon 4/10/2006 5:45 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
>It was great to get down to Sun-N-Fun. In the past there was not much
>there and one day was enough, but now that I am building the two days
>was just not enough. Too much to do and see. You can see some of my
>photos here
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/index.html>.
>
>There were 3 customer built RV-10 at the show when I was there.
>Unfortunately I did not get t a close look at the TruTrak RV. But both
>Vic and Tim 10s are great looking. A special thanks to Tim for letting
>me sit in the pilots seat while he turned on the Cheltons and avionics.
>I sat there making airplane noises and dreaming I was flying my
>completed 10.
>
>As you know Tim's panel is has the Cheltons side by side and Vic's are
>up and down, and both would not change the layout. After sitting in
>Tim's plane, side by side works best for me. It sure is great to have
>the flexibility to make your own choice and put the plane together as
>you want.
>
>I had thought that I would put inertial reals in for the seat belts.
>But with the Tims seat belts on tight I could easily reach the panel
and
>the avionics stack over to the right. Vic's Crow Enterprizes belts
with
>the rotary latch look very comfortable. For me it will be fixed belts,
>but the wider hooker or crow type with rotary latches.
>
>Paint cracking happens where the windows meet the fiberglass canopy.
>Vic suggested putting e-glass around the exterior of the window which
>may stop or reduce the cracking.
>
>Vic has his oxygen bottle mounted between the passenger seats. It
>looked like a good place to mount it in lieu of hanging in on the
>co-pilot seat
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Vic%20RV10/slides/2006
-04-07-SnF-25.html>.
>Cirrus has a similar install. If anyone can take a picture of the
>Cirrus O2 installation and email them to me, it would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Accuracy Avionics has an overhead console for the 10. I bought one. I
>have pictures and comments on my web site you can see them here
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Overhead/index.html>.
>Tony and Eric have put together a nice product. It has six cockpit
>lights for the pilot & co-pilot, rear passengers and the baggage area.
>Four vents for overhead ventilation and a bar to hang clothing in the
>baggage area. A scoop mounts to the intersecting fairing and scat
tubes
>connect to the overhead console to pressurize it. There is an area to
>mount an overhead DVD player that flips down (cool). The package comes
>in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price is $1,295,
>$2,295, and $2,495 respectively. The basic is the console straight
from
>the mold and primed. Standard adds the DVD player, six cockpit lights
>and 4 eyeball vents. Deluxe adds installation of the components
>including the nut plates & seal. I bought the standard. Tony and Eric
>are also putting together a center console and a variety of fiberglass
>panels. I cannot wait to see the rest of their offerings.
>Contact information is: Tony Sustare, Accuracy Avionics, 63020 Powel
>Butte Highway, Suite 1, Bend, Oregon 97701
>Phone 866/KIT-PANL email: TonyS at accuracy avionics dot com
>
>Josh from Direct2 had the Chelton SV-10 wire harness there. It looked
>complete and well put together, but it was hard to tell with everything
>curled up. They even have mounts for the GADAHRS and magnetometer
>Hopefully the wire harness will ship to me soon. Chelton is working on
>integrating XM weather in addition to WSI weather to give you a choice.
>
>Avionics Systems <http://www.avionikits.com/> has a modular molded
>fiberglass panel that allows the avionics stack to be located anywhere
>on the panel. They has a system on display with the avionics stack to
>the right of the center rib. If anyone has a photo of this panel
please
>email it to me.
>
>Advanced Flight Systems new EFIS & Engine monitoring graphics are
>outstanding. Grand Rapids better watch out. Currently the AFS system
>does not have all the functionality as the GRT system, but with the
>better screen it has the potential to blow away the GRT and challenge
>the Chelton systems. But, this will be too late for me.
>
>TruTrak is also entering the EFIS marked, but not much info on there
>system. Maybe at OSH. They did announce a RV-10 autopilot. I guess
it
>positioned somewhere between the Sorcerer and Digiflight IIVSGV.
>
>Plane Power's development of a vacuum pad mounted alternator is not
>going to happen in the near future. They are working on STC's for
their
>existing products. They want the alternator to work at low engine RPM
>settings and that will take a while.
>
>E-Mag/P-Mag was not at the show. Sure wish they were. I need to make
a
>decision on an ignition system.
>
>Sorry for the long email. There is probably more that I forgot. Any
>comments or additional observations would be appreciated.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Twenty Nine Palms |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Nothing special about the airport itself, I took my multiegine training
nearby @ salton sea (below sea level) and we used it for some IFR
approaches. Depending upon your route takes you pass through the Banning
Pass, just north of Palm Springs, you can expect some bumps,
particularly if late in the day or if there is any wind (very common).
if you come down through the Calif inland valleys and come on the
backside of mtns you will avoid that and most of the Trafic associated
with the LAX and Ontario/Riverside approaches.
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
Randy DeBauw wrote:
> I am heading to Twenty Nine Palms Ca. this Friday. Is there anyone who
> has used that airport? Any thing I should know about it. Thanks, Randy
>
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| Subject: | Re: Twenty Nine Palms |
I flew out of there a gozillion years ago while I was stationed at the Marine Corps
base..
Look out for the wind - it can whip up and sandblast an airplane in a nanosecond.....the
scenery from the air is great though!
Ralph Capen
Master Gunnery Sergeant US Marine Corps Retired!
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy DeBauw
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:05 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Twenty Nine Palms
I am heading to Twenty Nine Palms Ca. this Friday. Is there anyone who has used
that airport? Any thing I should know about it. Thanks, Randy
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| Subject: | Blue Mountain Too Experimental? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robin Marks" <robin@mrmoisture.com>
Larry,
What specifically makes you feel that the Blue Mountain Avionics
are too Experimental? I have flown (right seat) behind the 10.4" EFIS
One and was impressed by its function, scale and flexibility (hard to
take my eyes off it). I was my very first time behind glass and being
someone that sits in front of 4 computer monitors all day long I dream
of anything but a steam panel for my -10 (on order).
Assuming dual electrical systems and a back up EFIS/Lite Plus G4
seems redundant enough including dual AP?
Robin
RV-6A 300 Hours
RV-10 QB On Order
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-----Original Message-----
--> RV10-List message posted by: LarryRosen@comcast.net
I did not bother looking at the bluemountain stuff. IMHO it is to
experimental for my taste. Also, I am already committed to the
Cheltons.
GRT has almost everything you could want, but their graphics just stink.
ASF has the graphics and the potential if you are willing to wait.
Just think all the choices we will have when we build our next airplane.
:-)
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
So far I haven't had any complaints from passengers. I myself did
comment when I did the demo flight that the -10 seemed to have a bit
of a tail waggle oscillation in turbulence....and I wondered if a
yaw dampener might not be a bad idea someday.
That said, from the flight down and back, I rode turbulence all the
way down and didn't experience anything that would cause me to
think a dampener was needed. On the way home, in the last few
miles, we got tossed around quite a bit and at that time I could
see a use for it...but considering the turbulence I was ok with
how it performed without. It may be a long term goal.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Robert G. Wright wrote:
> Talking to Alex DeDominicis (sp?), The Sorcerers VOR/ILS/GS functions
> are removed, a yaw dampener is added. Alexs wife felt a lot of waggle
> in the back seat since its behind the spar, so he adjusted the software
> for the price of the VOR/ILS/GS. In his -10 he can overlay any approach
> he wants to using the GNS480, so he sees no real loss of functionality,
> and he gains the yaw dampener.
>
>
>
> Randy, Jesse, Tim, others flying, thoughts about your back seaters
> experiences?
>
>
>
> Rob #392
>
> Waiting QB shipment
>
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *GRANSCOTT@aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:58 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
>
>
> Sorry TDT you're correct...they do not have it on the web site as of
> last week, and other than a pix they did not have a data sheet, that I
> was aware of, so the fellow said that it would not intercept the final
> approach course...I was assuming he meant an ILS and not a GPS/WAAS
> approach...but I'm not really sure that is correct.
>
>
>
> Hopefully they will have it on the site soon.
>
>
>
> P
>
>
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Sun-N-Fun my comments |
$40, eBay, Chevy S10 overhead console. :-)
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:12 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
I would think that you would get a lot of water in the system with that scoop back
there. You could with the normal vents too, but with them closed, the water
won't be able to get in an fill up a scat tube or anything. I would think
there would have to be a way to close up the scoop if nothing else. The overhead
panel looks great, though. Now, to figure out a way to do that myself without
forking out the $1,300....or just do without it.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of May.
You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check from down
here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at 352-465-4545.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston"
--> <CJohnston@popsound.com>
Hey all -
Is there a way to get air into the overhead panel without putting an inlet on the
intersection fairing? Does that inlet on the fairing seem like a bummer to
anyone else? I really like the look of the overhead panel though. What is the
difference between the 3 flavors? Anyone?
cj
#40410
wings
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
From below
The package comes in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price is $1,295,
$2,295, and $2,495 respectively.
Larry
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>Larry:
>
>What were the prices on the 3 flavors of overhead panel?
>
>Thanks,
>
>TDT
>
>do not archive
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Larry Rosen
>Sent: Mon 4/10/2006 5:45 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
>It was great to get down to Sun-N-Fun. In the past there was not much
>there and one day was enough, but now that I am building the two days
>was just not enough. Too much to do and see. You can see some of my
>photos here
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/index.html>.
>
>There were 3 customer built RV-10 at the show when I was there.
>Unfortunately I did not get t a close look at the TruTrak RV. But both
>Vic and Tim 10s are great looking. A special thanks to Tim for letting
>me sit in the pilots seat while he turned on the Cheltons and avionics.
>I sat there making airplane noises and dreaming I was flying my
>completed 10.
>
>As you know Tim's panel is has the Cheltons side by side and Vic's are
>up and down, and both would not change the layout. After sitting in
>Tim's plane, side by side works best for me. It sure is great to have
>the flexibility to make your own choice and put the plane together as
>you want.
>
>I had thought that I would put inertial reals in for the seat belts.
>But with the Tims seat belts on tight I could easily reach the panel
and
>the avionics stack over to the right. Vic's Crow Enterprizes belts
with
>the rotary latch look very comfortable. For me it will be fixed belts,
>but the wider hooker or crow type with rotary latches.
>
>Paint cracking happens where the windows meet the fiberglass canopy.
>Vic suggested putting e-glass around the exterior of the window which
>may stop or reduce the cracking.
>
>Vic has his oxygen bottle mounted between the passenger seats. It
>looked like a good place to mount it in lieu of hanging in on the
>co-pilot seat
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Vic%20RV10/slides/2006
-04-07-SnF-25.html>.
>Cirrus has a similar install. If anyone can take a picture of the
>Cirrus O2 installation and email them to me, it would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Accuracy Avionics has an overhead console for the 10. I bought one. I
>have pictures and comments on my web site you can see them here
><http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Overhead/index.html>.
>Tony and Eric have put together a nice product. It has six cockpit
>lights for the pilot & co-pilot, rear passengers and the baggage area.
>Four vents for overhead ventilation and a bar to hang clothing in the
>baggage area. A scoop mounts to the intersecting fairing and scat
tubes
>connect to the overhead console to pressurize it. There is an area to
>mount an overhead DVD player that flips down (cool). The package comes
>in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price is $1,295,
>$2,295, and $2,495 respectively. The basic is the console straight
from
>the mold and primed. Standard adds the DVD player, six cockpit lights
>and 4 eyeball vents. Deluxe adds installation of the components
>including the nut plates & seal. I bought the standard. Tony and Eric
>are also putting together a center console and a variety of fiberglass
>panels. I cannot wait to see the rest of their offerings.
>Contact information is: Tony Sustare, Accuracy Avionics, 63020 Powel
>Butte Highway, Suite 1, Bend, Oregon 97701 Phone 866/KIT-PANL email:
>TonyS at accuracy avionics dot com
>
>Josh from Direct2 had the Chelton SV-10 wire harness there. It looked
>complete and well put together, but it was hard to tell with everything
>curled up. They even have mounts for the GADAHRS and magnetometer
>Hopefully the wire harness will ship to me soon. Chelton is working on
>integrating XM weather in addition to WSI weather to give you a choice.
>
>Avionics Systems <http://www.avionikits.com/> has a modular molded
>fiberglass panel that allows the avionics stack to be located anywhere
>on the panel. They has a system on display with the avionics stack to
>the right of the center rib. If anyone has a photo of this panel
please
>email it to me.
>
>Advanced Flight Systems new EFIS & Engine monitoring graphics are
>outstanding. Grand Rapids better watch out. Currently the AFS system
>does not have all the functionality as the GRT system, but with the
>better screen it has the potential to blow away the GRT and challenge
>the Chelton systems. But, this will be too late for me.
>
>TruTrak is also entering the EFIS marked, but not much info on there
>system. Maybe at OSH. They did announce a RV-10 autopilot. I guess
it
>positioned somewhere between the Sorcerer and Digiflight IIVSGV.
>
>Plane Power's development of a vacuum pad mounted alternator is not
>going to happen in the near future. They are working on STC's for
their
>existing products. They want the alternator to work at low engine RPM
>settings and that will take a while.
>
>E-Mag/P-Mag was not at the show. Sure wish they were. I need to make
a
>decision on an ignition system.
>
>Sorry for the long email. There is probably more that I forgot. Any
>comments or additional observations would be appreciated.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Rob, I think it will work with the A/C, but most will be just adding it
for the additional, and much more comfortable ventilation. I don't think
it will be merged with the heat, as it will be very hard to get heat
to the tail where it would need to be to go up to the console. The
heat would be the way it is, and this would just give better ventilation.
Many people asked me at the show if there was anything I'd do
differently, or that I didn't like. For a while I was telling
people there wasn't....but I was wrong. The front air vents
are just kind of pitiful. They put out plenty of air, if you
want your nuts or kneecaps cooled. If you put them on your face,
you lose all other cooling on your body. If you point them most
anywhere, your charts go flying. They're awfully positioned.
On a positive note, Ken Krueger did confirm that they lowered
the NACA cutout 1/4", so at least the won't interfere with the panel
for many of the future builders. That won't help the sucky location
though, but it may give more mounting options. If I was starting
over, I'd consider putting a cover plate over that hole, and
adding the vents somewhere else....and I'd definitely be buying
the overhead console. Or perhaps I'd keep the vents where they are,
but with the overhead console providing most of the ventilation, I'd
make the standard vents with those small ones, instead of the big
ones.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Robert G. Wright wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
>
> For those of you putting in the overhead venting, is this for air
> conditioning? If so, will you be able to reroute your heating air to the
> floor in the winter, or will you output air to all the vents all the time?
> What device will you use to split?
>
> Rob
> #392
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:45 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
>
> Hey all -
>
> Is there a way to get air into the overhead panel without putting an
> inlet on the intersection fairing? Does that inlet on the fairing seem
> like a bummer to anyone else? I really like the look of the overhead
> panel though. What is the difference between the 3 flavors? Anyone?
>
> cj
> #40410
> wings
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:24 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> From below
>
> The package comes in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price
> is $1,295,
> $2,295, and $2,495 respectively.
>
> Larry
>
>
> Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>
>> Larry:
>>
>> What were the prices on the 3 flavors of overhead panel?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> TDT
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Larry Rosen
>> Sent: Mon 4/10/2006 5:45 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>>
>> It was great to get down to Sun-N-Fun. In the past there was not much
>> there and one day was enough, but now that I am building the two days
>> was just not enough. Too much to do and see. You can see some of my
>> photos here
> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/index.html>.
>> There were 3 customer built RV-10 at the show when I was there.
>> Unfortunately I did not get t a close look at the TruTrak RV. But both
>
>> Vic and Tim 10s are great looking. A special thanks to Tim for letting
>
>> me sit in the pilots seat while he turned on the Cheltons and avionics.
>
>> I sat there making airplane noises and dreaming I was flying my
>> completed 10.
>>
>> As you know Tim's panel is has the Cheltons side by side and Vic's are
>> up and down, and both would not change the layout. After sitting in
>> Tim's plane, side by side works best for me. It sure is great to have
>> the flexibility to make your own choice and put the plane together as
>> you want.
>>
>> I had thought that I would put inertial reals in for the seat belts.
>> But with the Tims seat belts on tight I could easily reach the panel
> and
>> the avionics stack over to the right. Vic's Crow Enterprizes belts
> with
>> the rotary latch look very comfortable. For me it will be fixed belts,
>
>> but the wider hooker or crow type with rotary latches.
>>
>> Paint cracking happens where the windows meet the fiberglass canopy.
>> Vic suggested putting e-glass around the exterior of the window which
>> may stop or reduce the cracking.
>>
>> Vic has his oxygen bottle mounted between the passenger seats. It
>> looked like a good place to mount it in lieu of hanging in on the
>> co-pilot seat
>> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Vic%20RV10/slides/2006
> -04-07-SnF-25.html>.
>> Cirrus has a similar install. If anyone can take a picture of the
>> Cirrus O2 installation and email them to me, it would be greatly
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Accuracy Avionics has an overhead console for the 10. I bought one. I
>
>> have pictures and comments on my web site you can see them here
>> <http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/SunNFun_2006/Overhead/index.html>.
>
>> Tony and Eric have put together a nice product. It has six cockpit
>> lights for the pilot & co-pilot, rear passengers and the baggage area.
>
>> Four vents for overhead ventilation and a bar to hang clothing in the
>> baggage area. A scoop mounts to the intersecting fairing and scat
> tubes
>> connect to the overhead console to pressurize it. There is an area to
>
>> mount an overhead DVD player that flips down (cool). The package comes
>
>> in 3 flavors. Basic, standard and deluxe. List price is $1,295,
>> $2,295, and $2,495 respectively. The basic is the console straight
> from
>> the mold and primed. Standard adds the DVD player, six cockpit lights
>> and 4 eyeball vents. Deluxe adds installation of the components
>> including the nut plates & seal. I bought the standard. Tony and Eric
>
>> are also putting together a center console and a variety of fiberglass
>> panels. I cannot wait to see the rest of their offerings.
>> Contact information is: Tony Sustare, Accuracy Avionics, 63020 Powel
>> Butte Highway, Suite 1, Bend, Oregon 97701
>> Phone 866/KIT-PANL email: TonyS at accuracy avionics dot com
>>
>> Josh from Direct2 had the Chelton SV-10 wire harness there. It looked
>> complete and well put together, but it was hard to tell with everything
>
>> curled up. They even have mounts for the GADAHRS and magnetometer
>> Hopefully the wire harness will ship to me soon. Chelton is working on
>
>> integrating XM weather in addition to WSI weather to give you a choice.
>>
>> Avionics Systems <http://www.avionikits.com/> has a modular molded
>> fiberglass panel that allows the avionics stack to be located anywhere
>> on the panel. They has a system on display with the avionics stack to
>> the right of the center rib. If anyone has a photo of this panel
> please
>> email it to me.
>>
>> Advanced Flight Systems new EFIS & Engine monitoring graphics are
>> outstanding. Grand Rapids better watch out. Currently the AFS system
>> does not have all the functionality as the GRT system, but with the
>> better screen it has the potential to blow away the GRT and challenge
>> the Chelton systems. But, this will be too late for me.
>>
>> TruTrak is also entering the EFIS marked, but not much info on there
>> system. Maybe at OSH. They did announce a RV-10 autopilot. I guess
> it
>> positioned somewhere between the Sorcerer and Digiflight IIVSGV.
>>
>> Plane Power's development of a vacuum pad mounted alternator is not
>> going to happen in the near future. They are working on STC's for
> their
>> existing products. They want the alternator to work at low engine RPM
>> settings and that will take a while.
>>
>> E-Mag/P-Mag was not at the show. Sure wish they were. I need to make
> a
>> decision on an ignition system.
>>
>> Sorry for the long email. There is probably more that I forgot. Any
>> comments or additional observations would be appreciated.
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Twenty Nine Palms |
Check the wind, it can be nasty.
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy DeBauw
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:05 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Twenty Nine Palms
I am heading to Twenty Nine Palms Ca. this Friday. Is there anyone who has used
that airport? Any thing I should know about it. Thanks, Randy
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As posted last night, I talked to Airteck about this and they said there should
be no problem with a vertically mounted antenna under fiberglass. They were
concerned that a horizontal mounting under the rudder, as many have done on RVs,
would seriously degrade the antenna.
Dick
40065
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Dawson-Townsend
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
Looks nice. Anyone want to comment on how well the signal can get through the
cabin lid?
TDT
40025
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| Subject: | Re: Door latch covering |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just cut a rectangular cover plate out of aluminum and glued it on
with some E6000 over the latch area, so the fabric would have a smooth
surface under it. I don't know that it would be worth spending too
much time making something that could be removed extremely easily...if
you had to do that, you'd probably be tearing your fabric off anyway.
If that's your goal, I'd make a larger, more decorative cover plate,
and don't put the fabric over the latch area at all.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Byron Gillespie wrote:
> I am in the process of covering my door interior surfaces with material.
> Does any one have any good photos that you could post or forward of how
> best to cover the latch mechanism area. I have looked through several
> builder sites and couldnt find a photo that showed good detail. Also
> couldnt dig up anything in the archives.
>
>
>
> My goal is a cover that could be removed for fairly easy access to the
> mechanism but would make the door panel look clean with out seeing the
> latching gears.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Byron #40253 finishing kit
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Flap hing bracket bearings |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com>
Hello Everyone. I am in process of installing my flaps in
anticipation of flying the 10 REALLY soon. I purchased the QB wings
and the hinge brackets were of course installed. The holes in the
flap brackets are larger than an AN$ bolt which tells me that there
is supposed to be a bearing inserted in them.
I cannot however locate any bearings or bushing on the parts list or
reference to them in the Manual. Can someone tell me if they are
supposed to come installed in the brackets (perhaps they forgot to
install them) or a part no so that I can call Van and ask for them.
The Van guys are traveling and Bruce (at Vans) was unable to help. I
am so close that I can taste the first flight and don't want to wait
a couple of more days for the guys at Van to return.
Thanks.
Do not Archive.
Kermanj Rob
robkermanj at gmail dot com
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "sean garrison" <sean@hangerg.com>
Hello everyone,
I was looking for a bit of advice in planning. I am looking at purchasing an
RV10 QBkit next month. I am starting to do some financial planning for this
purchase and I was wondering realistically what I can figure on spending to
complete this project. This will be my first aircraft project and I am
looking for some direction. Any thoughts or insights would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Flap hing bracket bearings |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Yep, the brackets get bushings. You'll need to carefully use a reamer
on those hole so they are nice and snug when you press them in. They
should be in some parts bag. The plans show them, so check the
list against the part number. FYI: You can't have the bushings
installed until the bottom skins go on, or the skin won't fit over
the brackets.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Rob Kermanj wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com>
>
> Hello Everyone. I am in process of installing my flaps in
> anticipation of flying the 10 REALLY soon. I purchased the QB wings
> and the hinge brackets were of course installed. The holes in the
> flap brackets are larger than an AN$ bolt which tells me that there
> is supposed to be a bearing inserted in them.
>
> I cannot however locate any bearings or bushing on the parts list or
> reference to them in the Manual. Can someone tell me if they are
> supposed to come installed in the brackets (perhaps they forgot to
> install them) or a part no so that I can call Van and ask for them.
>
> The Van guys are traveling and Bruce (at Vans) was unable to help. I
> am so close that I can taste the first flight and don't want to wait
> a couple of more days for the guys at Van to return.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Do not Archive.
>
> Kermanj Rob
> robkermanj at gmail dot com
>
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Sean,
I can't speak for the rest of the crowd, but plan for this like building a
house.
Do your best planning and estimating based on airframe, engine and avionics.
Then add 50%......
grumpy
#40404
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In a message dated 4/11/2006 8:11:21 PM Central Standard Time,
sean@hangerg.com writes:
Hello everyone,
I was looking for a bit of advice in planning. I am looking at purchasing an
RV10 QBkit next month. I am starting to do some financial planning for this
purchase and I was wondering realistically what I can figure on spending to
complete this project. This will be my first aircraft project and I am
looking for some direction. Any thoughts or insights would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments |
Larry,
Thanks for the great post on what you saw at Sun-N-Fun. I apparently stayed to
close to buildings A thru D
and didn't make it to the tent with the overhead unit. I'm really glad you took
the pictures and posted them
on your site. I think I've decided to get one also. I tried to call them today
but they hadn't made it back from
Sun-N-Fun yet.
I've really been wondering how I could make that area look more finished and I
think this unit fits the bill. Do
you think there will be any problem with loss of head room? It didn't look like
it was coming down very far?
Again thanks for your sharing your info with all of us.
Wayne Edgerton
#40336 fitting the doors
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| Subject: | Door latch covering |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
You could cover up to and around the match area, and then make a cover plate
that screws or snaps on and cover that separately. See the pictures of the
TruTrak plane. They have something like this, although the whole bottom of
the door is a removeable panel, it looks like.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of
May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check
from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at
352-465-4545.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door latch covering
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just cut a rectangular cover plate out of aluminum and glued it on
with some E6000 over the latch area, so the fabric would have a smooth
surface under it. I don't know that it would be worth spending too
much time making something that could be removed extremely easily...if
you had to do that, you'd probably be tearing your fabric off anyway.
If that's your goal, I'd make a larger, more decorative cover plate,
and don't put the fabric over the latch area at all.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Byron Gillespie wrote:
> I am in the process of covering my door interior surfaces with material.
> Does any one have any good photos that you could post or forward of how
> best to cover the latch mechanism area. I have looked through several
> builder sites and couldn't find a photo that showed good detail. Also
> couldn't dig up anything in the archives.
>
>
>
> My goal is a cover that could be removed for fairly easy access to the
> mechanism but would make the door panel look clean with out seeing the
> latching gears.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Byron #40253 finishing kit.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
That all depends on how much you expect to spend on a panel, what engine you
are putting in (new certified, new experimental, rebuilt, or used) and what
extras you are putting in (fiberglass panel, overhead console, A/C, DVD
system, ballistic chute, etc.). With a budget of $25,000 for a panel and
$35,000 for an engine, you are probably looking at about $125,000 or so, I
would think, not including the bells & whistles. This is just a rough
estimate, but some are spending upwards of $60,000 for the panel and upwards
of $40,000 for an engine, not to mention the extras. Stuff will add up
faster than you can count, probably. Van's project cost estimator on their
website is all but worthless, I think, when talking about the -10. If
anybody has been able to build one for under $90,000, which I have seen
advertised, please let me know and I will retract my statement.
Oh, I was kidding about the ballistic chute, but I won't be surprised if I
see one available one of these days like the Cirrus has.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of
May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check
from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at
352-465-4545.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sean garrison
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:10 PM
Subject: RV10-List: planning
--> RV10-List message posted by: "sean garrison" <sean@hangerg.com>
Hello everyone,
I was looking for a bit of advice in planning. I am looking at purchasing an
RV10 QBkit next month. I am starting to do some financial planning for this
purchase and I was wondering realistically what I can figure on spending to
complete this project. This will be my first aircraft project and I am
looking for some direction. Any thoughts or insights would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
As you might expect there's a wide variation based upon options that you
have available to you and the decisions you make relative to those options.
Some rules of thumb:
1/3 cost = kit
1/3 cost = engine & prop
1/3 cost = panel
The cost of the kit itself is pretty well established, however Van does
increaase his prices at the beginning of every year. There are options
available for the airframe, (lighting, fuel valve, cowls,plenum,
interior panels/ducts/lights that all add cost.
Engine, a WIDE variation from used Lycomings (teens $K) to new Lycomings
($40k+) and then Alternative (mostly auto conversions) and then there
are options that will add to this (electronic ingition, balancing, cold
air induction,oil coolers, & more)
Props - again options used to new 2 blade vs 3 blade, metal vs
composite, cost range (4-5kused - $15k)
Panel - How much money have you got? basic VFR could be done relatively
inexpensively, particularly if you scrounge for used instruments, new
glass IFR upwards of$40-50k +
Tools - you'll buy more along the way.
Plug in your decisions and you'll get an ESTIMATE.
Then add 10-15% for stuff you didn't think about.
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
sean garrison wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "sean garrison" <sean@hangerg.com>
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>I was looking for a bit of advice in planning. I am looking at purchasing an
>RV10 QBkit next month. I am starting to do some financial planning for this
>purchase and I was wondering realistically what I can figure on spending to
>complete this project. This will be my first aircraft project and I am
>looking for some direction. Any thoughts or insights would be greatly
>appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Sun-N-Fun my comments |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
A long time ago, now, after riding in back of Van's demo -10 (son in front),
I posted on this site that when we hit a light bump or two I noticed a
wiggle. At that time there weren't any other -10's flying and my email went
nowhere. However, I made a note that if I could afford a yaw dampener, I'd
get one. Given that one is going to have inexperienced light plane riders
in the back, and I've had one too many lose their cookies in the back of a
182, I suggest seriously thinking about adding one if at all possible. Not
sure about losing functionality in the autopilot, but those implications
need more time to sink into the gray matter.
Remember, us folks who fly regularly have our sea legs. Those poor folks
who sit in the back probably do not have theirs.
John Jessen
~328 (heading into serious buildus interruptus yet again)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
So far I haven't had any complaints from passengers. I myself did comment
when I did the demo flight that the -10 seemed to have a bit of a tail
waggle oscillation in turbulence....and I wondered if a yaw dampener might
not be a bad idea someday.
That said, from the flight down and back, I rode turbulence all the way down
and didn't experience anything that would cause me to think a dampener was
needed. On the way home, in the last few miles, we got tossed around quite
a bit and at that time I could see a use for it...but considering the
turbulence I was ok with how it performed without. It may be a long term
goal.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Robert G. Wright wrote:
> Talking to Alex DeDominicis (sp?), The Sorcerer's VOR/ILS/GS functions
> are removed, a yaw dampener is added. Alex's wife felt a lot of
> waggle in the back seat since it's behind the spar, so he adjusted the
> software for the price of the VOR/ILS/GS. In his -10 he can overlay
> any approach he wants to using the GNS480, so he sees no real loss of
> functionality, and he gains the yaw dampener.
>
>
>
> Randy, Jesse, Tim, others flying, thoughts about your back seaters'
> experiences?
>
>
>
> Rob #392
>
> Waiting QB shipment
>
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *GRANSCOTT@aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:58 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
>
>
> Sorry TDT you're correct...they do not have it on the web site as of
> last week, and other than a pix they did not have a data sheet, that I
> was aware of, so the fellow said that it would not intercept the final
> approach course...I was assuming he meant an ILS and not a GPS/WAAS
> approach...but I'm not really sure that is correct.
>
>
>
> Hopefully they will have it on the site soon.
>
>
>
> P
>
>
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Sun-N-Fun my comments |
I haven't spent much time in the back seat except one time that I climbed
from the front to the back to test the different in C/G, but there was no
turbulence then. I haven't heard any complaints at all from back seat
passengers, at least not about waggle.
By the way, Tim and Randy, can you post a picture of how you sealed your
baggage door? We are getting water back there that I assume comes from the
door.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
<mailto:jesse@itecusa.org> jesse@itecusa.org
<http://www.itecusa.org> www.itecusa.org
I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of
May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can check
from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC office at
352-465-4545.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert G. Wright
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 6:12 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
Talking to Alex DeDominicis (sp?), The Sorcerer's VOR/ILS/GS functions are
removed, a yaw dampener is added. Alex's wife felt a lot of waggle in the
back seat since it's behind the spar, so he adjusted the software for the
price of the VOR/ILS/GS. In his -10 he can overlay any approach he wants to
using the GNS480, so he sees no real loss of functionality, and he gains the
yaw dampener.
Randy, Jesse, Tim, others flying, thoughts about your back seaters'
experiences?
Rob #392
Waiting QB shipment
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
Sorry TDT you're correct...they do not have it on the web site as of last
week, and other than a pix they did not have a data sheet, that I was aware
of, so the fellow said that it would not intercept the final approach
course...I was assuming he meant an ILS and not a GPS/WAAS approach...but
I'm not really sure that is correct.
Hopefully they will have it on the site soon.
P
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Flap hing bracket bearings |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com>
Thanks for the quick reply. What kind of bushing are they? Bronze?
Brass? aluminum? Do they need to be fabricated by me?
I have checked the plans and cannot find ANY references (in
related/logical sections) to the part and installation instruction.
Can you point me to the right place in the manual?
My bottom skin is installed and as I said, I am assembling the plane
for it's first flight.
Thanks again.
Do not archive.
On 4/11/06, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Yep, the brackets get bushings. You'll need to carefully use a reamer
> on those hole so they are nice and snug when you press them in. They
> should be in some parts bag. The plans show them, so check the
> list against the part number. FYI: You can't have the bushings
> installed until the bottom skins go on, or the skin won't fit over
> the brackets.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Rob Kermanj wrote:
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com>
> >
> > Hello Everyone. I am in process of installing my flaps in
> > anticipation of flying the 10 REALLY soon. I purchased the QB wings
> > and the hinge brackets were of course installed. The holes in the
> > flap brackets are larger than an AN$ bolt which tells me that there
> > is supposed to be a bearing inserted in them.
> >
> > I cannot however locate any bearings or bushing on the parts list or
> > reference to them in the Manual. Can someone tell me if they are
> > supposed to come installed in the brackets (perhaps they forgot to
> > install them) or a part no so that I can call Van and ask for them.
> >
> > The Van guys are traveling and Bruce (at Vans) was unable to help. I
> > am so close that I can taste the first flight and don't want to wait
> > a couple of more days for the guys at Van to return.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Do not Archive.
> >
> > Kermanj Rob
> > robkermanj at gmail dot com
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments |
I do not think you will loose any head room, since it is maybe 12" wider than the
tunnel. Head room is never an issue for me. Short at 5'-9"
I do have a few other observations that I just remembered.
There has been questions periodically about where to locate the rudder pedals.
Tim has his in the forward hole, which works for Tim. When I sat in Tim's pilot
seat without moving the seat I was not able to reach the pedals and get full
rudder deflection. Probably if I moved the seat It would work, but then I
would be too close to the panel. The rear position is the right one for me @
5'-9".
Tim has the plastic vents installed, he will be replacing them with the metal eye
balls. Save yourself the money and put in the more expensive metal ones.
One of Vic's COM antennas in on the top. He says it give great performance. Both
on my COMs are on the bottom, with doublers and holes already installed.
Thats where mine will stay unless there is a problem.
Larry
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Wayne Edgerton" <weeav8ter@grandecom.net>
> Larry,
>
> Thanks for the great post on what you saw at Sun-N-Fun. I apparently stayed to
> close to buildings A thru D
> and didn't make it to the tent with the overhead unit. I'm really glad you took
> the pictures and posted them
> on your site. I think I've decided to get one also. I tried to call them today
> but they hadn't made it back from
> Sun-N-Fun yet.
>
> I've really been wondering how I could make that area look more finished and
I
> think this unit fits the bill. Do
> you think there will be any problem with loss of head room? It didn't look like
> it was coming down very far?
>
> Again thanks for your sharing your info with all of us.
>
> Wayne Edgerton
>
> #40336 fitting the doors
>
> do not archive
From: "Wayne Edgerton" <weeav8ter@grandecom.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
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<STYLE></STYLE>
Larry,
Thanks for the great post on what you saw at
Sun-N-Fun. I apparently stayed to close to buildings A thru D
and didn't make it to the tent with the
overhead unit. I'm really glad you took the pictures and posted
them
on your site. I think I've decided to get one
also. I tried to call them today but they hadn't made it back from
Sun-N-Fun yet.
I've really been wondering how I could make that
area look more finished and I think this unit fits the bill. Do
you think there will be any problem with loss
of head room? It didn't look like it was coming down very far?
Again thanks for your sharing your info with all of
us.
Wayne Edgerton
#40336 fitting the doors
do not archive
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
QB, I started out with planning around $100K, have gone up to 125K, and now
am back down to about 110K. But this includes upgrading a lot of my
original panel choices and going with a cheaper (rebuilt/overhaul) option on
the engine and prop, so the price changes equalize. If I were going all new
I'd probably be up to around $150K (estimated) right now.
Rob #392
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of sean garrison
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:10 PM
Subject: RV10-List: planning
--> RV10-List message posted by: "sean garrison" <sean@hangerg.com>
Hello everyone,
I was looking for a bit of advice in planning. I am looking at purchasing an
RV10 QBkit next month. I am starting to do some financial planning for this
purchase and I was wondering realistically what I can figure on spending to
complete this project. This will be my first aircraft project and I am
looking for some direction. Any thoughts or insights would be greatly
appreciated.
Thanks
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Interesting. Who is Airteck?
Is your ELT 121.5 or 406 MHz?
TDT
40025
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Richard Sipp
Sent: Tue 4/11/2006 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
As posted last night, I talked to Airteck about this and they said there should
be no problem with a vertically mounted antenna under fiberglass. They were
concerned that a horizontal mounting under the rudder, as many have done on RVs,
would seriously degrade the antenna.
Dick
40065
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Dawson-Townsend
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:56 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
Looks nice. Anyone want to comment on how well the signal can get through the
cabin lid?
TDT
40025
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
My humble opinion is that if you have more time than money, go with an
alternative engine. I'm doing a cosmo 20B which will put out 280 HP and
with a constant speed prop will be in to the package at $12,000. Yes that's
engine, prop, and reduction gear, 2.85 to 1 giving me a 2175 RPM on the
prop. It will take me a little longer, but I'd rather have the extra
$40,000 in my pocket. So math says 40 for kit, 12 for engine and 25 for
avionics leaving $77,000 into it without paint. Upholstery will cost me
nada. Add 10% to 15% and you come up with 85 to 90.
Avionics is another matter, I think I'm going GRT EfIS 1 Dual Screen, and
drop resolution for economy. Still will have no round guages.
Bob K
N104BK working on the flap torque tubes.
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
Ah, sorry for the typo. The company is Artex Aircraft Supplies Inc., a
Chelton Co.
www.artex.com
The unit I have is the ME406 and is both 121.5 and 406.
Dick Sipp
40065
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
Interesting. Who is Airteck?
Is your ELT 121.5 or 406 MHz?
TDT
40025
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun my comments |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I sealed mine with a "P" shaped rubber gasket seal from a hardware
store, with stick-on backing. I haven't had it in rain or
washed it, but I'd be surprised if it leaked much...it's sealed
pretty good. I did have to buy 2 separate thicknesses since the
levels weren't consistent between some of the horizontal and
vertical areas around the door.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Jesse Saint wrote:
> I havent spent much time in the back seat except one time that I
> climbed from the front to the back to test the different in C/G, but
> there was no turbulence then. I havent heard any complaints at all
> from back seat passengers, at least not about waggle.
>
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> By the way, Tim and Randy, can you post a picture of how you sealed your
> baggage door? We are getting water back there that I assume comes from
> the door.
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> Do not archive.
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> Jesse Saint
>
> I-TEC, Inc.
>
> jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
>
>
>
> I'm in Ecuador right now and should be back in the country by the end of
> May. You may call me at 352-505-1899 and leave a message that I can
> check from down here. Any I-TEC questions can be directed to the I-TEC
> office at 352-465-4545.
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Robert G.
> Wright
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2006 6:12 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
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>
> Talking to Alex DeDominicis (sp?), The Sorcerers VOR/ILS/GS functions
> are removed, a yaw dampener is added. Alexs wife felt a lot of waggle
> in the back seat since its behind the spar, so he adjusted the software
> for the price of the VOR/ILS/GS. In his -10 he can overlay any approach
> he wants to using the GNS480, so he sees no real loss of functionality,
> and he gains the yaw dampener.
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> Randy, Jesse, Tim, others flying, thoughts about your back seaters
> experiences?
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> Rob #392
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> Waiting QB shipment
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> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *GRANSCOTT@aol.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 11, 2006 9:58 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun my comments
>
>
>
> Sorry TDT you're correct...they do not have it on the web site as of
> last week, and other than a pix they did not have a data sheet, that I
> was aware of, so the fellow said that it would not intercept the final
> approach course...I was assuming he meant an ILS and not a GPS/WAAS
> approach...but I'm not really sure that is correct.
>
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> Hopefully they will have it on the site soon.
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| Subject: | Re: Flap hing bracket bearings |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I think the're Bronze, and they aren't fabricated, but they
come complete.
I see them on page 22-8, BUSHING 1/4x3/8x.250.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Rob Kermanj wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com>
>
> Thanks for the quick reply. What kind of bushing are they? Bronze?
> Brass? aluminum? Do they need to be fabricated by me?
>
> I have checked the plans and cannot find ANY references (in
> related/logical sections) to the part and installation instruction.
> Can you point me to the right place in the manual?
>
> My bottom skin is installed and as I said, I am assembling the plane
> for it's first flight.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Do not archive.
>
>
> On 4/11/06, Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com> wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> Yep, the brackets get bushings. You'll need to carefully use a reamer
>> on those hole so they are nice and snug when you press them in. They
>> should be in some parts bag. The plans show them, so check the
>> list against the part number. FYI: You can't have the bushings
>> installed until the bottom skins go on, or the skin won't fit over
>> the brackets.
>>
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
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>>
>> Rob Kermanj wrote:
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Hello Everyone. I am in process of installing my flaps in
>>> anticipation of flying the 10 REALLY soon. I purchased the QB wings
>>> and the hinge brackets were of course installed. The holes in the
>>> flap brackets are larger than an AN$ bolt which tells me that there
>>> is supposed to be a bearing inserted in them.
>>>
>>> I cannot however locate any bearings or bushing on the parts list or
>>> reference to them in the Manual. Can someone tell me if they are
>>> supposed to come installed in the brackets (perhaps they forgot to
>>> install them) or a part no so that I can call Van and ask for them.
>>>
>>> The Van guys are traveling and Bruce (at Vans) was unable to help. I
>>> am so close that I can taste the first flight and don't want to wait
>>> a couple of more days for the guys at Van to return.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Do not Archive.
>>>
>>> Kermanj Rob
>>> robkermanj at gmail dot com
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That's a good data point - thanks. We are also planning a 406 MHz unit, so maybe
we will copy your idea . . .
TDT
40025
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________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Richard Sipp
Sent: Tue 4/11/2006 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
Ah, sorry for the typo. The company is Artex Aircraft Supplies Inc., a
Chelton Co.
www.artex.com
The unit I have is the ME406 and is both 121.5 and 406.
Dick Sipp
40065
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:35 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
Interesting. Who is Airteck?
Is your ELT 121.5 or 406 MHz?
TDT
40025
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| Subject: | Re: Flap hing bracket bearings |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Rob,
They are or at least they look like bronze. You should have 6 of them somewhere
with your kit. They look like little bronze donuts. I used sandpaper on a drill
bit and lapped the hinge bracket just a little. I used a C-Clamp and two pieces
of wood to press them into the bracket, once the one dise was fluch I used
a socket on one side to allow the bushing to get to it's final position, they
are wider than the hinge bracket and center on the hole with equal reveal on
each side.
Rick S.
40185
Fuse/Finish
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Correction...... http://www.artex.NET
Tim
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
>
> Ah, sorry for the typo. The company is Artex Aircraft Supplies Inc., a
> Chelton Co.
>
> www.artex.com
>
> The unit I have is the ME406 and is both 121.5 and 406.
>
> Dick Sipp
> 40065
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:35 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
>
>
>
> Interesting. Who is Airteck?
>
> Is your ELT 121.5 or 406 MHz?
>
> TDT
> 40025
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You Chelton EFIS guys should have an Artex ELT and an S-Tec autopilot, since they
all belong to the Chelton family!
TDT
40025
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________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson
Sent: Wed 4/12/2006 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Correction...... http://www.artex.NET
Tim
>
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
>
> Ah, sorry for the typo. The company is Artex Aircraft Supplies Inc., a
> Chelton Co.
>
> www.artex.com
>
> The unit I have is the ME406 and is both 121.5 and 406.
>
> Dick Sipp
> 40065
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 10:35 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: ELT Antenna
>
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> Interesting. Who is Airteck?
>
> Is your ELT 121.5 or 406 MHz?
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> TDT
> 40025
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