---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/15/06: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:13 AM - Re: Van's Fuel sender (James Hein) 2. 07:10 AM - Re: Removable Rear Windows? (Sam Marlow) 3. 07:21 AM - Re: Re: Re: IFR related cockpit stuff (Dan Masys) 4. 10:17 AM - Re: Vans VA-186 Oil cooler box assy (Cal Hoffman) 5. 11:52 AM - Re: Vans VA-186 Oil cooler box assy (Marcus Cooper) 6. 01:43 PM - Re: Van's Fuel sender (Darton Steve) 7. 03:03 PM - Mounting Lasar unit (Ralph E. Capen) 8. 03:22 PM - Re: Mounting Lasar unit (JSMcGrew@aol.com) 9. 03:28 PM - FAB Instructions (Mike Kraus) 10. 04:59 PM - Re: FAB Instructions (Indran Chelvanayagam) 11. 05:54 PM - Re: FAB Instructions (Ed Godfrey) 12. 05:58 PM - Re: FAB Instructions (Mark Ritter) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:13:21 AM PST US From: James Hein Subject: Re: RV10-List: Van's Fuel sender Steve, Here are a couple pictures of the left and right senders when installed. -Jim 40384 Darton Steve wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve > >Tonight I began to install the fuel sender unit in the >Right tank, it appears to be exactly the same unit as >the one in the Left tank. Not a "flopped" version or >mirror copy. It appears that the factory miss-labeled >a left hand version as a right and boxed it as a right >so I have two left side senders. Can anyone tell me >for sure that they are each supposed to angle down >towards the bottom of the tank when installed? > >Thanks, Steve 40212 > >__________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:10:48 AM PST US From: Sam Marlow Subject: Re: RV10-List: Removable Rear Windows? --> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow I'm interstead in trim rings! Sam Marlow Fuse Dave Saylor wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Dave Saylor" > >On the Legacy the hinged rear windows are very useful for loading and >accessing the baggage compartment. I realize the baggage door on the -10 >serves that purpose, as does easier access from the passenger area. > >So this is a question for -10 users--if you find yourselves wanting easier >access to the baggage compartment, perhaps from the right side, or if you >think it might be useful as an emergency exit, please let me know. > >Some people expressed interest in trim rings, which are a much easier >product to produce, so I will get started on those soon. Cost for trim >rings will be about $100 each, oversized so you can "trim" to whatever size >you think looks best. > >Dave Saylor >AirCrafters LLC >831-722-9141 > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:02 AM PST US From: Dan Masys Subject: Re: RE: RV10-List: Re: IFR related cockpit stuff --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys > From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" > Date: 2006/04/14 Fri PM 04:28:00 EDT > To: > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: IFR related cockpit stuff > > I was reading something that suggested for the airworthiness inspection, > the examiner was also going to be interested in seeing your test plan > for flight testing the aircraft. What have folks been doing for that? > A one-page outline of tasks, or an 80-page flight test plan with > individual test cards, or something in-between? The only topic that came up at my -7's signoff was the boundaries of the flight test area. The DAR wanted to be sure I had a marked Sectional showing its limits (and a copy was included in his signoff paperwork for phase I) since the standard text description of it in the San Diego area was pretty complicated and bordered by restricted airspace. If I can infer from the silence on the topic of the flight test program, the general attitude was 'go out and kill yourself if you like, but please do it in this area. Rest is up to you.' Since DAR's and FSDO's seem to vary dramatically, this is just an anecdote... -Dan Masys ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:12 AM PST US From: "Cal Hoffman" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans VA-186 Oil cooler box assy --> RV10-List message posted by: "Cal Hoffman" Speaking of room, what is the trend on mounting oil filters?? Standard horizontal, alternate 90 degree or remote? I am planning a pre-oiler installation but have not mounted my enging yet. Cal Hoffman (40119 - canoe) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph E. Capen" Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans VA-186 Oil cooler box assy > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" > > Dan, > > Thanks for the info. I really like the oil cooler (whichever one) mounted on the firewall as I am using a SamJames plenum and there just doesn't seem to be enough room for the cooler up on the back of the baffling. > > You are probably corect in that I could go with a smaller cooler - maybe a stewart warner 8406R like some of the other 6A O360 guys are using. > > Ralph > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Dan Masys > >Sent: Apr 10, 2006 10:48 AM > >To: rv10-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans VA-186 Oil cooler box assy > > > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys > > > >> From: "Ralph E. Capen" > >> Date: 2006/04/10 Mon AM 08:17:12 EDT > > > >> Thanks Tim....that Oil cooler is Huge! > >> > >> Now I'm pretty sure I know how it works - I just gotta figure if it is the correct setup for my 6A. > >> > >> I have an Aerosport Power O360 with AFP injection and 9.2 pistons - so I think I need more oil cooler than the average bear. > > > >Ralph, > > > >For the O-360 you really don't need the giant oil cooler used on the -10. I have a 200hp IO-360 in my -7A and use a 7 row cooler (the O-320 model has 5 rows) mounted to the left rear cylinder. Oil temps essentially never get above 210 even with sustained full power climbs at best rate in summer conditions. In cruise the oil temp is always right at 170, which is the vernatherm opening temp. > > > >Both Dan Checkoway and I had problems with the weight of the larger cooler causing cracking of the baffle, so we both added a 3/4 angle brace from the inner flange of the baffle to a midline bolt on the engine case. > > > >On the other hand, mounting the oil cooler on the firewall rather than the engine certainly saves stress on the cylinder it is bolted to, and the baffles. > > > >-Dan Masys > >RV-7A N747DL flying > >RV-10A N104LD fuselage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:00 AM PST US From: "Marcus Cooper" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Vans VA-186 Oil cooler box assy --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" My Aerosport engine came with the standard horizontal and there is plenty of room. Far better than my RV-6 had. Marcus Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cal Hoffman Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 1:16 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans VA-186 Oil cooler box assy --> RV10-List message posted by: "Cal Hoffman" Speaking of room, what is the trend on mounting oil filters?? Standard horizontal, alternate 90 degree or remote? I am planning a pre-oiler installation but have not mounted my enging yet. Cal Hoffman (40119 - canoe) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph E. Capen" Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans VA-186 Oil cooler box assy > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" > > Dan, > > Thanks for the info. I really like the oil cooler (whichever one) mounted on the firewall as I am using a SamJames plenum and there just doesn't seem to be enough room for the cooler up on the back of the baffling. > > You are probably corect in that I could go with a smaller cooler - maybe a stewart warner 8406R like some of the other 6A O360 guys are using. > > Ralph > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Dan Masys > >Sent: Apr 10, 2006 10:48 AM > >To: rv10-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans VA-186 Oil cooler box assy > > > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys > > > >> From: "Ralph E. Capen" > >> Date: 2006/04/10 Mon AM 08:17:12 EDT > > > >> Thanks Tim....that Oil cooler is Huge! > >> > >> Now I'm pretty sure I know how it works - I just gotta figure if it is the correct setup for my 6A. > >> > >> I have an Aerosport Power O360 with AFP injection and 9.2 pistons - so I think I need more oil cooler than the average bear. > > > >Ralph, > > > >For the O-360 you really don't need the giant oil cooler used on the -10. I have a 200hp IO-360 in my -7A and use a 7 row cooler (the O-320 model has 5 rows) mounted to the left rear cylinder. Oil temps essentially never get above 210 even with sustained full power climbs at best rate in summer conditions. In cruise the oil temp is always right at 170, which is the vernatherm opening temp. > > > >Both Dan Checkoway and I had problems with the weight of the larger cooler causing cracking of the baffle, so we both added a 3/4 angle brace from the inner flange of the baffle to a midline bolt on the engine case. > > > >On the other hand, mounting the oil cooler on the firewall rather than the engine certainly saves stress on the cylinder it is bolted to, and the baffles. > > > >-Dan Masys > >RV-7A N747DL flying > >RV-10A N104LD fuselage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:43:59 PM PST US From: Darton Steve Subject: Re: RV10-List: Van's Fuel sender --> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve James, Thanks for the pictures. That is what mine looks like, you see the back side of the sender on the right tank. That is how I installed mine too. Steve 40212 --- James Hein wrote: > Steve, > Here are a couple pictures of the left and right > senders when installed. > > -Jim 40384 > > Darton Steve wrote: > > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Darton Steve > > > > >Tonight I began to install the fuel sender unit in > the > >Right tank, it appears to be exactly the same unit > as > >the one in the Left tank. Not a "flopped" version > or > >mirror copy. It appears that the factory > miss-labeled > >a left hand version as a right and boxed it as a > right > >so I have two left side senders. Can anyone tell me > >for sure that they are each supposed to angle down > >towards the bottom of the tank when installed? > > > >Thanks, Steve 40212 > > > >__________________________________________________ > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:03:13 PM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: RV10-List: Mounting Lasar unit Folks, I'm getting ready to put my Lasar computer on the firewall (where I've seen them before in pictures). for those of you that have this ignition system, are you putting some backing plates to spread the load out - or just nutplating it in? Thanks, Ralph ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:38 PM PST US From: JSMcGrew@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Mounting Lasar unit I just drilled #19 holes and used 4 #8 screws to attach it to the firewall. I used steel locknuts on the hot side of the firewall. -Jim 40134 In a message dated 4/15/2006 4:04:44 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, recapen@earthlink.net writes: Folks, I'm getting ready to put my Lasar computer on the firewall (where I've seen them before in pictures). for those of you that have this ignition system, are you putting some backing plates to spread the load out - or just nutplating it in? Thanks, Ralph Jim "Scooter" McGrew jsmcgrew@aol.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:28:52 PM PST US From: "Mike Kraus" Subject: RV10-List: FAB Instructions Can someone tell me where the Filtered Airbox Instructions are located? The FAB kit did not include any, and they are not in the FWF instructions that I have. Does someone have a set the can scan and e-mail to me? Or enlighten me on where I may find them? Thanks -Mike Kraus ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:59:08 PM PST US From: "Indran Chelvanayagam" Subject: RE: RV10-List: FAB Instructions I can email these instructions (577Kb file) to anyone else if requested - I haven't posted them here in deference to those with dial-up (Chris McG - you listening?) Indran Chelvanayagam _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kraus Sent: Sunday, 16 April 2006 6:29 AM Subject: RV10-List: FAB Instructions Can someone tell me where the Filtered Airbox Instructions are located? The FAB kit did not include any, and they are not in the FWF instructions that I have. Does someone have a set the can scan and e-mail to me? Or enlighten me on where I may find them? Thanks -Mike Kraus ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:31 PM PST US From: Ed Godfrey Subject: Re: RV10-List: FAB Instructions Indran, I would be interested in a copy. THanks. Ed Godfrey Indran Chelvanayagam wrote: > I can email these instructions (577Kb file) to anyone else if > requested - I haven't posted them here in deference to those with > dial-up (Chris McG - you listening?) > > Indran Chelvanayagam > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kraus > Sent: Sunday, 16 April 2006 6:29 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: FAB Instructions > > Can someone tell me where the Filtered Airbox Instructions are > located? The FAB kit did not include any, and they are not in the FWF > instructions that I have. > > Does someone have a set the can scan and e-mail to me? Or enlighten > me on where I may find them? > > Thanks > -Mike Kraus ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:58:35 PM PST US From: "Mark Ritter" Subject: RE: RV10-List: FAB Instructions --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found ---