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1. 03:36 AM - Re: Removable Rear Windows? (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 07:36 AM - RV10 Fuel Tanks (zackrv8)
3. 10:20 AM - Re: FAB Instructions (Cal Hoffman)
4. 11:33 AM - Low Drag VHF Antenna (Roger Standley)
5. 12:03 PM - Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna (JSMcGrew@aol.com)
6. 12:52 PM - Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna (Roger Standley)
7. 02:52 PM - Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna (JSMcGrew@aol.com)
8. 03:19 PM - Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna (Chris , Susie Darcy)
9. 03:22 PM - Re: FAB Instructions (Chris , Susie Darcy)
10. 03:34 PM - Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna (Chris , Susie Darcy)
11. 04:12 PM - Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna (Roger Standley)
12. 04:30 PM - Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna (Conti, Rick)
13. 06:06 PM - RV 10 Empenage Kit For Sale (Frank Dombroski)
14. 06:25 PM - Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna (JSMcGrew@aol.com)
15. 09:17 PM - light aircraft shootdown (David McNeill)
16. 10:04 PM - Re: Tru Trak's RV10 (Deems Davis)
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| Subject: | Re: Removable Rear Windows? |
I would possible be interested in the window trim pieces also.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
do no archive
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
For those of you "lucky" enough to have the luxury of building your own fuel tanks,
here's a tip that might save you some time.
The plans have you rivet the J channel in the tanks after the ribs. Don't have
to. Check it out for yourself before you proseal. Put the J channel in place
with clecos. Now, put one or all of the ribs in place just to see if you
can do it. It is very easy and you will find works.
I prosealed and back riveted all bottom and top tank stiffners in first (as per
plans) but also riveted and prosealed the J channel. Then I installed the
ribs. With an "acid brush" with the hairs cut off half way, I painted the ribs
and skin with proseal. Now, slide the rib onto skin. You cock the rib 45 degrees,
put the J channel end on the skin first, then put the rib straight in
place. It works guys! The best part about this procedure is that you can back
rivet the J channel in place and not worry about sliding that proseal mess in
later.
Zack
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RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=28717#28717
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| Subject: | Re: FAB Instructions |
MessageI would also like a copy, please.
Cal Hoffman (cehoffman@bellsouth.net)
----- Original Message -----
From: Indran Chelvanayagam
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: FAB Instructions
I can email these instructions (577Kb file) to anyone else if requested - I haven't
posted them here in deference to those with dial-up (Chris McG - you listening?)
Indran Chelvanayagam
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kraus
Sent: Sunday, 16 April 2006 6:29 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: FAB Instructions
Can someone tell me where the Filtered Airbox Instructions are located? The
FAB kit did not include any, and they are not in the FWF instructions that I have.
Does someone have a set the can scan and e-mail to me? Or enlighten me on where
I may find them?
Thanks
-Mike Kraus
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| Subject: | Low Drag VHF Antenna |
Message
Is anyone using the Van's Low Drag VHF Antenna? Any tips on installation?
Roger Standley
#40291 - fuselage, wiring
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| Subject: | Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna |
Roger,
I mounted the low drag VHF comm antenna in the canopy for use with my #2
radio. I have a bent whip on the belly of the plane for my #1 radio. I glassed
it to the inside of the canopy top, just aft of the right door. This antenna is
supposed to be vertical as much as possible and that is the best place I
could find an almost vertical 23" surface. After sanding, filling and painting
it just disappeared and looks great. I hooked it up to my VHF handheld and
have been listening to airline traffic in and out of Boise from my garage... as
far as I can tell it works great. Fiberglass does not blank VHF transmissions
- however I believe certain exterior paints (metallics?) might have some
effect. The reason I did not want to use this for my primary radio is the
considerable blanking you get from the aluminum portion of the fuselage, but it
should be fine for a backup.
Additionally, I plan on glassing the VOR antenna in the wingtip. That is a
horizontally polarized signal and should work great there. Plus there is much
less blanking from aluminum structures way out on the wing tip.
Pictures attached.
Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
_jsmcgrew@aol.com_ (mailto:jsmcgrew@aol.com)
In a message dated 4/16/2006 12:35:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
taildragon@msn.com writes:
Is anyone using the Van's Low Drag VHF Antenna? Any tips on installation?
Roger Standley
#40291 - fuselage, wiring
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| Subject: | Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna |
Jim,
Thank you for the response. Very clever installation. One more question, what did
you do about a "ground plane"? Is one recommended?
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: JSMcGrew@aol.com<mailto:JSMcGrew@aol.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
Roger,
I mounted the low drag VHF comm antenna in the canopy for use with my #2 radio.
I have a bent whip on the belly of the plane for my #1 radio. I glassed it
to the inside of the canopy top, just aft of the right door. This antenna is supposed
to be vertical as much as possible and that is the best place I could
find an almost vertical 23" surface. After sanding, filling and painting it just
disappeared and looks great. I hooked it up to my VHF handheld and have been
listening to airline traffic in and out of Boise from my garage... as far as
I can tell it works great. Fiberglass does not blank VHF transmissions - however
I believe certain exterior paints (metallics?) might have some effect. The
reason I did not want to use this for my primary radio is the considerable blanking
you get from the aluminum portion of the fuselage, but it should be fine
for a backup.
Additionally, I plan on glassing the VOR antenna in the wingtip. That is a horizontally
polarized signal and should work great there. Plus there is much less
blanking from aluminum structures way out on the wing tip.
Pictures attached.
Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
jsmcgrew@aol.com<mailto:jsmcgrew@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/16/2006 12:35:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, taildragon@msn.com
writes:
Is anyone using the Van's Low Drag VHF Antenna? Any tips on installation?
Roger Standley
#40291 - fuselage, wiring
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| Subject: | Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna |
I believe the ground plane requirement is covered by the antenna coax
connector (included in the antenna kit) which is bolted to the aluminum part of
the
airframe. There is no mention of ground plane in the sheet Van's included
with the antenna kit.
Jim
In a message dated 4/16/2006 1:55:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
taildragon@msn.com writes:
Jim,
Thank you for the response. Very clever installation. One more question,
what did you do about a "ground plane"? Is one recommended?
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: _JSMcGrew@aol.com_ (mailto:JSMcGrew@aol.com)
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
Roger,
I mounted the low drag VHF comm antenna in the canopy for use with my #2
radio. I have a bent whip on the belly of the plane for my #1 radio. I glassed
it to the inside of the canopy top, just aft of the right door. This antenna
is supposed to be vertical as much as possible and that is the best place I
could find an almost vertical 23" surface. After sanding, filling and painting
it just disappeared and looks great. I hooked it up to my VHF handheld and
have been listening to airline traffic in and out of Boise from my garage... as
far as I can tell it works great. Fiberglass does not blank VHF
transmissions - however I believe certain exterior paints (metallics?) might have
some
effect. The reason I did not want to use this for my primary radio is the
considerable blanking you get from the aluminum portion of the fuselage, but it
should be fine for a backup.
Additionally, I plan on glassing the VOR antenna in the wingtip. That is a
horizontally polarized signal and should work great there. Plus there is much
less blanking from aluminum structures way out on the wing tip.
Pictures attached.
Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
_jsmcgrew@aol.com_ (mailto:jsmcgrew@aol.com)
In a message dated 4/16/2006 12:35:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
taildragon@msn.com writes:
Is anyone using the Van's Low Drag VHF Antenna? Any tips on installation?
Roger Standley
#40291 - fuselage, wiring
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| Subject: | Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna |
Most antenas need ground planes....the connector would not be enough.
Chris VK3GI 40388
----- Original Message -----
From: JSMcGrew@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
I believe the ground plane requirement is covered by the antenna coax connector
(included in the antenna kit) which is bolted to the aluminum part of the airframe.
There is no mention of ground plane in the sheet Van's included with
the antenna kit.
Jim
In a message dated 4/16/2006 1:55:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, taildragon@msn.com
writes:
Jim,
Thank you for the response. Very clever installation. One more question, what
did you do about a "ground plane"? Is one recommended?
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: JSMcGrew@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
Roger,
I mounted the low drag VHF comm antenna in the canopy for use with my #2
radio. I have a bent whip on the belly of the plane for my #1 radio. I glassed
it to the inside of the canopy top, just aft of the right door. This antenna
is supposed to be vertical as much as possible and that is the best place I could
find an almost vertical 23" surface. After sanding, filling and painting it
just disappeared and looks great. I hooked it up to my VHF handheld and have
been listening to airline traffic in and out of Boise from my garage... as far
as I can tell it works great. Fiberglass does not blank VHF transmissions -
however I believe certain exterior paints (metallics?) might have some effect.
The reason I did not want to use this for my primary radio is the considerable
blanking you get from the aluminum portion of the fuselage, but it should be
fine for a backup.
Additionally, I plan on glassing the VOR antenna in the wingtip. That is
a horizontally polarized signal and should work great there. Plus there is much
less blanking from aluminum structures way out on the wing tip.
Pictures attached.
Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
jsmcgrew@aol.com
In a message dated 4/16/2006 12:35:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, taildragon@msn.com
writes:
Is anyone using the Van's Low Drag VHF Antenna? Any tips on installation?
Roger Standley
#40291 - fuselage, wiring
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| Subject: | Re: FAB Instructions |
MessageIndran are you sending a 4-6 meg picture? Thats what the drama was not very
useful files like this ....please put on list
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Indran Chelvanayagam
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: FAB Instructions
I can email these instructions (577Kb file) to anyone else if requested - I haven't
posted them here in deference to those with dial-up (Chris McG - you listening?)
Indran Chelvanayagam
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kraus
Sent: Sunday, 16 April 2006 6:29 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: FAB Instructions
Can someone tell me where the Filtered Airbox Instructions are located? The
FAB kit did not include any, and they are not in the FWF instructions that I have.
Does someone have a set the can scan and e-mail to me? Or enlighten me on where
I may find them?
Thanks
-Mike Kraus
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| Subject: | Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna |
Woops read where connector is attached to airframe....this should be enough....so
disregard
chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris , Susie Darcy
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
Most antenas need ground planes....the connector would not be enough.
Chris VK3GI 40388
----- Original Message -----
From: JSMcGrew@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
I believe the ground plane requirement is covered by the antenna coax connector
(included in the antenna kit) which is bolted to the aluminum part of the
airframe. There is no mention of ground plane in the sheet Van's included with
the antenna kit.
Jim
In a message dated 4/16/2006 1:55:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, taildragon@msn.com
writes:
Jim,
Thank you for the response. Very clever installation. One more question,
what did you do about a "ground plane"? Is one recommended?
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: JSMcGrew@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
Roger,
I mounted the low drag VHF comm antenna in the canopy for use with my #2
radio. I have a bent whip on the belly of the plane for my #1 radio. I glassed
it to the inside of the canopy top, just aft of the right door. This antenna
is supposed to be vertical as much as possible and that is the best place I
could find an almost vertical 23" surface. After sanding, filling and painting
it just disappeared and looks great. I hooked it up to my VHF handheld and have
been listening to airline traffic in and out of Boise from my garage... as
far as I can tell it works great. Fiberglass does not blank VHF transmissions
- however I believe certain exterior paints (metallics?) might have some effect.
The reason I did not want to use this for my primary radio is the considerable
blanking you get from the aluminum portion of the fuselage, but it should
be fine for a backup.
Additionally, I plan on glassing the VOR antenna in the wingtip. That is
a horizontally polarized signal and should work great there. Plus there is much
less blanking from aluminum structures way out on the wing tip.
Pictures attached.
Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
jsmcgrew@aol.com
In a message dated 4/16/2006 12:35:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, taildragon@msn.com
writes:
Is anyone using the Van's Low Drag VHF Antenna? Any tips on installation?
Roger Standley
#40291 - fuselage, wiring
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| Subject: | Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna |
Jim,
Makes sense that bolting the connector to the frame does the trick. I didn't receive
a sheet with the kit from Vans. Guess that is why the questions. Could you
please send a copy of it to me? Thanks a bunch. This list is great!
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: JSMcGrew@aol.com<mailto:JSMcGrew@aol.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
I believe the ground plane requirement is covered by the antenna coax connector
(included in the antenna kit) which is bolted to the aluminum part of the airframe.
There is no mention of ground plane in the sheet Van's included with
the antenna kit.
Jim
In a message dated 4/16/2006 1:55:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, taildragon@msn.com
writes:
Jim,
Thank you for the response. Very clever installation. One more question, what
did you do about a "ground plane"? Is one recommended?
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: JSMcGrew@aol.com<mailto:JSMcGrew@aol.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
Roger,
I mounted the low drag VHF comm antenna in the canopy for use with my #2
radio. I have a bent whip on the belly of the plane for my #1 radio. I glassed
it to the inside of the canopy top, just aft of the right door. This antenna
is supposed to be vertical as much as possible and that is the best place I could
find an almost vertical 23" surface. After sanding, filling and painting it
just disappeared and looks great. I hooked it up to my VHF handheld and have
been listening to airline traffic in and out of Boise from my garage... as far
as I can tell it works great. Fiberglass does not blank VHF transmissions -
however I believe certain exterior paints (metallics?) might have some effect.
The reason I did not want to use this for my primary radio is the considerable
blanking you get from the aluminum portion of the fuselage, but it should be
fine for a backup.
Additionally, I plan on glassing the VOR antenna in the wingtip. That is
a horizontally polarized signal and should work great there. Plus there is much
less blanking from aluminum structures way out on the wing tip.
Pictures attached.
Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
jsmcgrew@aol.com<mailto:jsmcgrew@aol.com>
In a message dated 4/16/2006 12:35:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, taildragon@msn.com
writes:
Is anyone using the Van's Low Drag VHF Antenna? Any tips on installation?
Roger Standley
#40291 - fuselage, wiring
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| Subject: | Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
I'll keep this short. The antenna ground plane is critical. If the antenna is mounted
on the rear of the fuselage the radiation pattern will greater In the forward
direction and visa versa.
Thank You
Rick Conti
The Boeing Company
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Standley
Sent: Sun Apr 16 16:09:17 2006
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
Jim,
Makes sense that bolting the connector to the frame does the trick. I didn't receive
a sheet with the kit from Vans. Guess that is why the questions. Could you
please send a copy of it to me? Thanks a bunch. This list is great!
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: JSMcGrew@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
I believe the ground plane requirement is covered by the antenna coax connector
(included in the antenna kit) which is bolted to the aluminum part of the airframe.
There is no mention of ground plane in the sheet Van's included with
the antenna kit.
Jim
In a message dated 4/16/2006 1:55:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, taildragon@msn.com
writes:
Jim,
Thank you for the response. Very clever installation. One more question, what
did you do about a "ground plane"? Is one recommended?
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: JSMcGrew@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
Roger,
I mounted the low drag VHF comm antenna in the canopy for use with my #2 radio.
I have a bent whip on the belly of the plane for my #1 radio. I glassed it
to the inside of the canopy top, just aft of the right door. This antenna is
supposed to be vertical as much as possible and that is the best place I could
find an almost vertical 23" surface. After sanding, filling and painting it just
disappeared and looks great. I hooked it up to my VHF handheld and have been
listening to airline traffic in and out of Boise from my garage... as far as
I can tell it works great. Fiberglass does not blank VHF transmissions - however
I believe certain exterior paints (metallics?) might have some effect. The
reason I did not want to use this for my primary radio is the considerable blanking
you get from the aluminum portion of the fuselage, but it should be fine
for a backup.
Additionally, I plan on glassing the VOR antenna in the wingtip. That is a horizontally
polarized signal and should work great there. Plus there is much less
blanking from aluminum structures way out on the wing tip.
Pictures attached.
Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
jsmcgrew@aol.com
In a message dated 4/16/2006 12:35:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, taildragon@msn.com
writes:
Is anyone using the Van's Low Drag VHF Antenna? Any tips on installation?
Roger Standley
#40291 - fuselage, wiring
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| Subject: | RV 10 Empenage Kit For Sale |
HS complete and riveted. Rudder complete and ready to rivet. Remainder of empenage
and rear fuse section still in crateAll parts primed and conditioned properly.
Excellent workmanship. Easy assembly, but no time to build. Pictures available.
Serious inquiries. Located in north central NJ 07090. $3000
Frank
908-577-1625
f.dombroski@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Low Drag VHF Antenna |
File attached.
-Jim
Do not archive
In a message dated 4/16/2006 5:13:11 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
taildragon@msn.com writes:
Jim,
Makes sense that bolting the connector to the frame does the trick. I didn't
receive a sheet with the kit from Vans. Guess that is why the questions.
Could you please send a copy of it to me? Thanks a bunch. This list is great!
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: _JSMcGrew@aol.com_ (mailto:JSMcGrew@aol.com)
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
I believe the ground plane requirement is covered by the antenna coax
connector (included in the antenna kit) which is bolted to the aluminum part of
the
airframe. There is no mention of ground plane in the sheet Van's included
with the antenna kit.
Jim
In a message dated 4/16/2006 1:55:19 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
taildragon@msn.com writes:
Jim,
Thank you for the response. Very clever installation. One more question,
what did you do about a "ground plane"? Is one recommended?
Roger
----- Original Message -----
From: _JSMcGrew@aol.com_ (mailto:JSMcGrew@aol.com)
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Low Drag VHF Antenna
Roger,
I mounted the low drag VHF comm antenna in the canopy for use with my #2
radio. I have a bent whip on the belly of the plane for my #1 radio. I glassed
it to the inside of the canopy top, just aft of the right door. This antenna
is supposed to be vertical as much as possible and that is the best place I
could find an almost vertical 23" surface. After sanding, filling and painting
it just disappeared and looks great. I hooked it up to my VHF handheld and
have been listening to airline traffic in and out of Boise from my garage... as
far as I can tell it works great. Fiberglass does not blank VHF
transmissions - however I believe certain exterior paints (metallics?) might have
some
effect. The reason I did not want to use this for my primary radio is the
considerable blanking you get from the aluminum portion of the fuselage, but it
should be fine for a backup.
Additionally, I plan on glassing the VOR antenna in the wingtip. That is a
horizontally polarized signal and should work great there. Plus there is much
less blanking from aluminum structures way out on the wing tip.
Pictures attached.
Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
_jsmcgrew@aol.com_ (mailto:jsmcgrew@aol.com)
In a message dated 4/16/2006 12:35:32 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
taildragon@msn.com writes:
Is anyone using the Van's Low Drag VHF Antenna? Any tips on installation?
Roger Standley
#40291 - fuselage, wiring
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| Subject: | light aircraft shootdown |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Hope our RV10 builder in Ecuador will be careful on his return to the states
for OSH. Seems there is a news report of a Panamanian helicopter shooting
down a suspected drug runner and killing one of the two occupants. Looked at
the maps and see Ecuador is just south of Colombia and must cross Panamanian
airspace to reach the US.
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| Subject: | Re: Tru Trak's RV10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Anybody know what kind of a prop they have on it? It's 3 blade is it an
MT? or Aero Composite?
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com
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