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1. 04:26 AM - Gear mount bolts (Chris , Susie Darcy)
2. 06:05 AM - Re: Tim's panel (Tim Olson)
3. 09:02 AM - .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) (Chris Johnston)
4. 09:46 AM - Re: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
5. 09:47 AM - Re: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) (Indran Chelvanayagam)
6. 10:00 AM - Re: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) (Mark Grieve)
7. 10:38 AM - Re: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) (Jesse Saint)
8. 12:18 PM - Re: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) (John Hilger)
9. 01:26 PM - Newest RV-10 kit (Ben Westfall)
10. 01:56 PM - Re: Newest RV-10 kit on the way to well over 600 by OSH (Deems Davis)
11. 03:44 PM - Re: Bucking Bar follow-up (Rick)
12. 04:21 PM - Re: Thoughts (Rick)
13. 06:39 PM - Re: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) (Tim Olson)
14. 06:40 PM - Re: Thoughts (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | Gear mount bolts |
Those with QB fuses make sure you check the bolts that hold the mounts in the fuse.
Some of mine were incorrect sizes ...some without washers and 2 without nuts
on....beware!
Chris
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
That's a simple one. I just bought some aluminum strips from Van's.
They are I think .063 strips, and I think they may be 1.5" or 2" wide.
Measure and see which fits better, or I can check at the hanger
if I remember today when I'm there. You may have to call them
to have them figure out which sizes they have standard. I can't
seem to find them on the web at first glance. They were
cheap, and I still have a couple extra that I ordered.
Anyway, all I did was take 2 strips, and attach them to the lower part
of the panel with about 4 screws for each strip. You can paint them
separately and attach them even after the panel is done if you
want to, but I'd really recommend having them for one reason.
If you ever want to add more switches or change the layout of something,
which has already happened to me, then at worst you just have to
pull the strip and paint it and re-silkscreen/engrave/label that piece.
It also makes the panel look nicer. I looked hard at my photos of
the colorado RV-10's before I did that and was impressed that theirs
looked more finished, which gave me the idea.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Robert G. Wright wrote:
> Tim,
>
>
>
> As I was going thru the panel plans, it seems that the lower
> flange/strip of aluminum will be recessed slightly behind the panel.
> That triggered a memory from your site, so can you relate how you
> accomplished, One very nice thing I found with adding that extra layer
> of aluminum for the switch bar at the bottom of the panel that made
> your panel flush from top to bottom.
>
>
>
> Rob
>
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| Subject: | .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) |
hey all -
there's a hole that needs to be drilled in the gear mount with a .311 drill bit.
where do you get this? or 7.9mm. does this measurement correlate with a numbered
drill bit? help.
cj
#40410
fuse
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) |
This has been discussed at length before. Please check the archives and then
follow up with any additional questions.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:51 AM
Subject: RV10-List: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?)
hey all -
there's a hole that needs to be drilled in the gear mount with a .311 drill bit.
where do you get this? or 7.9mm. does this measurement correlate with a numbered
drill bit? help.
cj
#40410
fuse
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Indran Chelvanayagam" <ichelva@netspace.net.au>
Avery Tools sell an undersized 5/16 reamer which is .3110 inch in diameter.
Works nicely for a snug fit of the landing gear bolt
Indran Chelvanayagam
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston
Sent: Sunday, 23 April 2006 11:51 PM
Subject: RV10-List: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?)
hey all -
there's a hole that needs to be drilled in the gear mount with a .311 drill
bit. where do you get this? or 7.9mm. does this measurement correlate
with a numbered drill bit? help.
cj
#40410
fuse
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | Re: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
Chris,
You can buy one from McMaster-Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com/ items
2958A126 and 30565A304 seem to fit the bill. Enco is another good source
for drills and things but their page is down this morning.
There was some chatter several months ago concerning this size of bit.
Someone proposed one builder buying a bit and passing it along to the
next builder who needed it. Maybe that has happened. I intend to order a
couple next time I need something from McMaster-Carr. The bits only cost
$4.00 but the shipping will probably double the price.
Mark
Chris Johnston wrote:
> hey all -
>
> there's a hole that needs to be drilled in the gear mount with a .311 drill bit.
where do you get this? or 7.9mm. does this measurement correlate with a
numbered drill bit? help.
>
> cj
> #40410
> fuse
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
We, as I believe Van's says is fine, used a 5/16 reemer and did it very
carefully. The bolt still fit very snug for us, just make sure that you get
a clean 5/16 and not oversize it.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
352-465-4545
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Grieve
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?)
--> RV10-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
Chris,
You can buy one from McMaster-Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com/ items
2958A126 and 30565A304 seem to fit the bill. Enco is another good source
for drills and things but their page is down this morning.
There was some chatter several months ago concerning this size of bit.
Someone proposed one builder buying a bit and passing it along to the
next builder who needed it. Maybe that has happened. I intend to order a
couple next time I need something from McMaster-Carr. The bits only cost
$4.00 but the shipping will probably double the price.
Mark
Chris Johnston wrote:
> hey all -
>
> there's a hole that needs to be drilled in the gear mount with a .311
drill bit. where do you get this? or 7.9mm. does this measurement
correlate with a numbered drill bit? help.
>
> cj
> #40410
> fuse
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | Re: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hilger" <ninepapa@bendbroadband.com>
Chris
All number drills are too small
No letter drills are close.
7.9mm is .311024", thats pretty close.
John
40359
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 8:51 AM
Subject: RV10-List: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?)
hey all -
there's a hole that needs to be drilled in the gear mount with a .311 drill
bit. where do you get this? or 7.9mm. does this measurement correlate
with a numbered drill bit? help.
cj
#40410
fuse
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | Newest RV-10 kit |
I just ordered the empennage kit and wing kit on Friday #40579. Gonna pick
up the emp kit this coming week. Van's is only a 20 min drive from my
place. I have to remove some siding from the trailer to get the crates in
it though (too long). While working on that today I snapped a bolt that
holds the front panel on my trailer trying to remove it. Hopefully this
isn't an omen of how the build process will go!
The wife and I got our "free" $36K RV-10 ride at Van's on Friday. I have
lots of RV-4 time and 1.2 hours in a 9A and now 15 minutes in a 10. Holy
cow!!! I was very impressed that Van ended up creating such a big RV but
still maintained the RV controllability and feel. Wish we could make OSH in
06'. maybe 07' if were lucky.
Ben Westfall
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| Subject: | Re: Newest RV-10 kit on the way to well over 600 by OSH |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Congratulations Ben, hope you have as much fun as I'm having. It looks
like John Cox's prediction of 600 kits sold by OSH is a slam dunk, when
I spoke with Vans @ Copperstate they said they were averaging 17 RV10
kit sales per month, with 3 months remaining, should well exceed 600. I
hope John's other prediction of 50 complete is also achieved, Watching
w/ interest.
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Bucking Bar follow-up |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Not to rain on your parade Deems,
I had great success by modifying the emmpenage bucking bar as per Van's instructions
and have completed all the rivets on the fuse using it. I will admit hunting
for the right bar was a long process until I remembered in the plans it said
to use this bar to rivet the fuselage....hmmmm, WORKED!! I did use a cardboard
shim on one side so it would lay correctly in the forward longeron channels
without worrying if I was correctly postioned on those rivets.
Don't think I didn't stare at my bucking bars with the idea of hacking them up
though...I was very close to doing the same thing'
PS-If you want a taste of what it was like to build an RV before prepunched kits
came out, do the rear seat backs. I have a little experience in layout and drilling
and forgot how nice the prepuched kits are...It all comes racing back
doing the rear seats. Maybe 100 holes to layout and drill plus the metal angle
fabrication...4 hours time. Imagine if the entire kit was like that!
My hats off to the pioneers who laid out, drilled and fabricated their RV's......They
are the "real" builders, I humbly accept the title of assembler. Just my
.02 worth.
Rick S.
40185
fuse/finish
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Hey!!!
I felt like I was reading my own Obit!!! Rick CONTI is selling not the other
handsome and clever Rick S.
Just in case somebody thought you were talking about me....James is now just a
distant momrey...hehe, I mean memory.
What is happening to get all of us together at OSH this year? My first time!! Tim
are you going to do the same as last year with the "list"
Rick S.
40185
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I had a friend with a .311 reamer in his machine supplies. I think
you could easily get one at a local machine tool supply house.
I would strongly suggest going with the proper size reamer
and not just a drill bit though. I reamed mine and must have put
just the slightest amount of crookedness to the hole, and now I
have just the smallest bit of play in one gear leg. I plan to
pull the seat and add some type of gap-fill loctite to the
bolt to ensure that it doesn't have any play in it, as play
will only get worse over time.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Jesse Saint wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> We, as I believe Van's says is fine, used a 5/16 reemer and did it very
> carefully. The bolt still fit very snug for us, just make sure that you get
> a clean 5/16 and not oversize it.
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> 352-465-4545
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Grieve
> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:59 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: .311 drill bit? (or 7.9mm?)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Mark Grieve <mark@macomb.com>
>
> Chris,
> You can buy one from McMaster-Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com/ items
> 2958A126 and 30565A304 seem to fit the bill. Enco is another good source
> for drills and things but their page is down this morning.
>
> There was some chatter several months ago concerning this size of bit.
> Someone proposed one builder buying a bit and passing it along to the
> next builder who needed it. Maybe that has happened. I intend to order a
> couple next time I need something from McMaster-Carr. The bits only cost
> $4.00 but the shipping will probably double the price.
> Mark
>
>
>
> Chris Johnston wrote:
>> hey all -
>>
>> there's a hole that needs to be drilled in the gear mount with a .311
> drill bit. where do you get this? or 7.9mm. does this measurement
> correlate with a numbered drill bit? help.
>> cj
>> #40410
>> fuse
>> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
> Do not archive
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I didn't have time for "the list" for SNF, but I will definitely do it
for OSH this year. For those who don't know what I mean, I have a
password protected list that I keep for OSH that will give builder
info including things like Cellphone numbers and your days you
plan to be at OSH. That way we can easily meet up with people
during the week. I'll start adding people to the 2006 list shortly.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Hey!!!
>
> I felt like I was reading my own Obit!!! Rick CONTI is selling not
> the other handsome and clever Rick S.
>
> Just in case somebody thought you were talking about me....James is
> now just a distant momrey...hehe, I mean memory.
>
> What is happening to get all of us together at OSH this year? My
> first time!! Tim are you going to do the same as last year with the
> "list"
>
> Rick S. 40185
>
> do not archive
>
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