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1. 03:15 AM - Re: Oil canning on forward fuse (Rob Kermanj)
2. 04:08 AM - Re: 728DD (Wayne Edgerton)
3. 06:57 AM - Re: Pitch trim servo (Richard Sipp)
4. 11:28 AM - X/C into a convection oven (Tim Olson)
5. 11:40 AM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
6. 12:26 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Rene Felker)
7. 12:26 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
8. 12:34 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Conti, Rick)
9. 12:53 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Tim Olson)
10. 01:02 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Larry Rosen)
11. 01:03 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Deems Davis)
12. 01:19 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Gary Specketer)
13. 01:20 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
14. 01:22 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
15. 01:27 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Dj Merrill)
16. 01:52 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
17. 01:54 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Bruce Patton)
18. 01:56 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Shawn Moon)
19. 01:58 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
20. 02:14 PM - Re: Cabin Door Fit (Jesse Saint)
21. 02:18 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Jesse Saint)
22. 02:28 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Bruce Patton)
23. 02:46 PM - Re: Model (greerdans@AOL.COM)
24. 02:54 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Tim Olson)
25. 03:17 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Jesse Saint)
26. 03:30 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Mark Chamberlain)
27. 03:44 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Tim Olson)
28. 05:34 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (bob.kaufmann)
29. 05:34 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (bob.kaufmann)
30. 05:37 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (bob.kaufmann)
31. 05:50 PM - Re: Riviting the tailcone (Cal Hoffman)
32. 07:20 PM - Re: Riviting the tailcone (McGANN, Ron)
33. 07:20 PM - True Flight software (David McNeill)
34. 07:20 PM - Re: Riviting the tailcone (Jesse Saint)
35. 07:45 PM - Re: True Flight software (Jesse Saint)
36. 08:17 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Kelly McMullen)
37. 11:21 PM - QB (Robert G. Wright)
38. 11:21 PM - Re: X/C into a convection oven (Robert G. Wright)
39. 11:31 PM - Official RV10-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
40. 11:33 PM - Official RV10-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: Oil canning on forward fuse |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com>
I had them on both sides of the fuselage too. They now hide behind
the wing root strips.
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On 4/30/06, McGANN, Ron <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com> wrote:
>
>
> G'day all
>
> Just had an awesome weekend and made some significant progress. Finished
> tailcone attachment and got those mongrel rear floor pans installed.
> Decided to do some clean up and admire the work to date.
>
> On inspecting the forward fuse skins, below the F1088 rib and just forward
> of the wing leading edge, I noticed a bit of a 'bulge' in the skins.
> Applying some pressure to the skin reveals a bit of oil canning. This is
> present on both sides. Don't know what happened here, followed the plans to
> the letter. Is this typical? Is there a fix?
>
> cheers,
> Ron
> 187 fuse
>
>
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Congratulations on being in the air. You have an interesting setup. You
will have to let us all know your flying results.
Wayne Edgerton # 40336
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| Subject: | Re: Pitch trim servo |
John,
I just installed mine the other night. The TruTrak web site has the
dimensions to locate the bellcrank arm attach hole. They said to look
at the 7 or 9 installation document as they are the same on all the
airplanes. Oh and when replacing the servo arm with the torque enhancer
don't remove the little screw on the servo that is off set from the
center one that is a shear screw and will break if removed. I have
already tested this feature.
Dick Sipp
40065
----- Original Message -----
From: John Testement
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:48 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Pitch trim servo
Anyone have instructions or photos of the new TruTrak pitch trim servo
installation (with the roller arm thingy)? I only got a couple of photos
and no info on where to drill the bellcrank arm, etc.
Take care,
John
_________________________________
John Testement
Human Potential Project
Phone: 804-303-1927
Email: john.testement@humanpotentialproject.com
3204 Long Meadow Cir.
Glen Allen, VA 23059
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4/28/2006
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| Subject: | X/C into a convection oven |
Ok, so I'm paranoid...
There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
*only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
mountain height is 10,000'.
What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | X/C into a convection oven |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Tim:
We were flying around NM last summer with the AF Reserve and encountered
afternoon puffy buildups many afternoons. We were up at FL300, so it
didn't bother us too much. We had some other fellas at low level and
they were getting bumped around a lot.
My advice: Get the kiddies up early, t/o NLT 0600 and get your longer
legs in before 1300 . . . (you're taking 2 days each way, I presume?)
Or extend your trip a bit, make it a circle, and come home via up the CA
coast, then back across, for a change of scenery . . .
TDT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
Ok, so I'm paranoid...
There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
*only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
mountain height is 10,000'.
What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | X/C into a convection oven |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
I live in Ogden Utah and normally fly down there once or twice a summer.
Get your flying in early and be concerned whenever the winds aloft are
greater than 25 knots, it can get pretty bumpy on the leeward side of the
big mountains. I agree with TDT make it a round trip and catch the Ca coast
and the intermountain west. Jackson Hole Wy is a beautiful destination. Or
maybe you can swing by my hanger in Ogden and show me what a finished -10
looks like....Mike Howe is right down the road also.
Also, I do not find the temperatures all that bad in the morning, a little
hot on the ground, but great at altitude. But it is a dry heat.....so in
the afternoon it is like the dry heat in a sauna.
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Rene' Felker
40322
Fuselage/finish kit
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
Ok, so I'm paranoid...
There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
*only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
mountain height is 10,000'.
What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Re: X/C into a convection oven |
Tim, I'm not from that area nor fly down there but do have a number of
friends in that area...it's my understanding that you want to make the crossing
through the mountains you want to enter it early in the morning as early as
possible if its clear...by the afternoon convection's build in the valleys and
climb along the walls making for lots of turbulence and a rough ride on any
aircraft, unless you're well over the tops. Additionally in the afternoon the
head winds will increase from the west southwest to east northeast generally
because of the convective activity...
Patrick
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| Subject: | X/C into a convection oven |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
Tim, I don't understand. Who could possibly force a big guy like you to
fly anywhere ?!
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Thank You
Rick Conti
Senior Engineering Manager
The Boeing Company
office: 703 - 414 - 6141
blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
Ok, so I'm paranoid...
There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
*only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
mountain height is 10,000'.
What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Re: X/C into a convection oven |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
There is but one woman....and I don't argue with a woman with
a gun...especially a rivet gun. ;)
I've been reading all of your on and off list responses and
they all seem to have a common theme. The part that
stinks is if I leave from Wisconsin, I can probably
easily make Vegas in one day, but I'd have to be willing to
fly through the worst of it in the afternoon to do that.
Perhaps I would be better flying to Denver or something,
and then get up the next day and leave early? It's hard
to tell what makes a good plan. I am considering the circle
route and coming back up the coast. Actually, it may end
up being that I go down there that way and come back the
planned route, as I'm on call the following week but I'm
not for that whole week before. So I have little time
after the 1st, but a bit before.
Thanks everyone for your encouragement and your offers of
a home for the plane!
-
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Conti, Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>
> Tim, I don't understand. Who could possibly force a big guy like you to
> fly anywhere ?!
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Thank You
> Rick Conti
> Senior Engineering Manager
> The Boeing Company
> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:26 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
> Ok, so I'm paranoid...
>
> There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
> Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
> *only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
> is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
> and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
> did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
> into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
> and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
> is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
> mountain height is 10,000'.
>
> What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
> in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
> tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
> to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
>
> I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
> but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
>
> All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
> last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
> a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
>
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| Subject: | Re: X/C into a convection oven |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Or the alternate, Fly Commercial. :-(
Conti, Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>
> Tim, I don't understand. Who could possibly force a big guy like you to
> fly anywhere ?!
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Thank You
> Rick Conti
> Senior Engineering Manager
> The Boeing Company
> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:26 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
> Ok, so I'm paranoid...
>
> There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
> Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
> *only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
> is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
> and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
> did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
> into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
> and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
> is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
> mountain height is 10,000'.
>
> What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
> in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
> tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
> to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
>
> I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
> but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
>
> All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
> last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
> a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: X/C into a convection oven |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Tim, I'm currently living in Arizona and I've done most of my flying in
the Western US. The rule of thumb most of us use is to launch EARLY (as
early as possible) and be on the ground before midday. By doing so you
can usually enjoy a clear and smooth ride. From 10:00 on the convective
activity increases . Mid July is when we begin the 'monsoon' season,
which draws moisture up from the south and makes for some considerable
convective activity by the noon time hour.If there is any moisture in
the area at all you can expect cumulus, and not infrequently nimbus and
giganticus . Flying @ 10-14k is the norm when crossing west to east or
visa versa. If your itinerary doesn't mandate Las Vegas, I'd suggest a
more direct route after crossing the Grand Canyon. Be advised that
flight over the GC is restricted and there are designated crossing
'lanes'. Make sure that you fly over Lake Powell and take in the
Monuments and arches before the GC. Don't worry about the temp @
altitude, it will be 30 degrees cooler @ 10K, and oh yeah remember "it's
a dry heat!"
Deems Davis # 406
Joining fuse &tailcone
http://deemsrv10.com/
Tim Olson wrote:
> Ok, so I'm paranoid...
>
> There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
> Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
> *only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
> is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
> and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
> did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
> into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
> and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
> is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
> mountain height is 10,000'.
>
> What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
> in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
> tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
> to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
>
> I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
> but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
>
> All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
> last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
> a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
>
>
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| Subject: | X/C into a convection oven |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Specketer" <speckter@comcast.net>
Besides all the other tips people send in, I suggest gatoraid. I have made
the trip several times from MSP and done it both VFR and IFR. I much prefer
VFR to do some sight seeing.
I flew to Laramie WY then over the ridge and straight south to Kremling CO.
Head west to Grand Junction and follow the Colorado river down to Lake
Powell. It is very scenic and very desolate. I then went west to St George
UT and down into Las Vagas. Then west into the Mohave and crossed into the
LA basin through the EL Cajon pass. You can fly the whole route and not get
above 10,000'. Go early and beware of density altitude. It can easily get
to be 11,000' in places like Laramie. What is your climb rate at 11,000 at
full gross?
Call me if you want to chat about other possible routes.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
Ok, so I'm paranoid...
There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from Wisconsin to
San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
*only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon, and then up
to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I did some research on is the
average daily temps, which get into the 102-108 degree F range in those
SouthWest states...
and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
mountain height is 10,000'.
What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there, tell me how bad
of weather and it's effects am I likely to see during that time of year
right around July 1st?
I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | X/C into a convection oven |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Tim:
You are, of course, realizing the distinction between Las Vegas, NM
(KLVS) and Las Vegas, NV (KLAS or KVGT or KHND).
I also don't recommend landing at KLSV (Nellis AFB). The Security
Forces guys might not appreciate that . . . !
TDT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
There is but one woman....and I don't argue with a woman with
a gun...especially a rivet gun. ;)
I've been reading all of your on and off list responses and
they all seem to have a common theme. The part that
stinks is if I leave from Wisconsin, I can probably
easily make Vegas in one day, but I'd have to be willing to
fly through the worst of it in the afternoon to do that.
Perhaps I would be better flying to Denver or something,
and then get up the next day and leave early? It's hard
to tell what makes a good plan. I am considering the circle
route and coming back up the coast. Actually, it may end
up being that I go down there that way and come back the
planned route, as I'm on call the following week but I'm
not for that whole week before. So I have little time
after the 1st, but a bit before.
Thanks everyone for your encouragement and your offers of
a home for the plane!
-
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Conti, Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>
> Tim, I don't understand. Who could possibly force a big guy like you
to
> fly anywhere ?!
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Thank You
> Rick Conti
> Senior Engineering Manager
> The Boeing Company
> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:26 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
> Ok, so I'm paranoid...
>
> There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
> Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
> *only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
> is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
> and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
> did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
> into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
> and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
> is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
> mountain height is 10,000'.
>
> What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
> in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
> tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
> to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
>
> I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
> but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
>
> All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
> last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
> a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Or maybe we'll find out if Tim can install an a/c system in his airplane
within the next two months!
TDT
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
There is but one woman....and I don't argue with a woman with
a gun...especially a rivet gun. ;)
I've been reading all of your on and off list responses and
they all seem to have a common theme. The part that
stinks is if I leave from Wisconsin, I can probably
easily make Vegas in one day, but I'd have to be willing to
fly through the worst of it in the afternoon to do that.
Perhaps I would be better flying to Denver or something,
and then get up the next day and leave early? It's hard
to tell what makes a good plan. I am considering the circle
route and coming back up the coast. Actually, it may end
up being that I go down there that way and come back the
planned route, as I'm on call the following week but I'm
not for that whole week before. So I have little time
after the 1st, but a bit before.
Thanks everyone for your encouragement and your offers of
a home for the plane!
-
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Conti, Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>
> Tim, I don't understand. Who could possibly force a big guy like you
to
> fly anywhere ?!
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Thank You
> Rick Conti
> Senior Engineering Manager
> The Boeing Company
> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:26 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
> Ok, so I'm paranoid...
>
> There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
> Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
> *only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
> is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
> and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
> did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
> into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
> and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
> is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
> mountain height is 10,000'.
>
> What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
> in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
> tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
> to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
>
> I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
> but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
>
> All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
> last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
> a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
Larry Rosen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> Or the alternate, Fly Commercial. :-(
Aaahh! Heretic! *wink*
-Dj
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| Subject: | X/C into a convection oven |
Or you might get run over by a Raptor. Of course you have a couple
big, long, dry lake bed runways about 100 miles north. Weeeeee.
Michael
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
--> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Tim:
You are, of course, realizing the distinction between Las Vegas, NM
(KLVS) and Las Vegas, NV (KLAS or KVGT or KHND).
I also don't recommend landing at KLSV (Nellis AFB). The Security
Forces guys might not appreciate that . . . !
TDT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
There is but one woman....and I don't argue with a woman with a
gun...especially a rivet gun. ;)
I've been reading all of your on and off list responses and they all
seem to have a common theme. The part that stinks is if I leave from
Wisconsin, I can probably easily make Vegas in one day, but I'd have to
be willing to fly through the worst of it in the afternoon to do that.
Perhaps I would be better flying to Denver or something,
and then get up the next day and leave early? It's hard
to tell what makes a good plan. I am considering the circle route and
coming back up the coast. Actually, it may end up being that I go down
there that way and come back the planned route, as I'm on call the
following week but I'm not for that whole week before. So I have little
time after the 1st, but a bit before.
Thanks everyone for your encouragement and your offers of a home for the
plane!
-
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Conti, Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>
> Tim, I don't understand. Who could possibly force a big guy like you
to
> fly anywhere ?!
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Thank You
> Rick Conti
> Senior Engineering Manager
> The Boeing Company
> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:26 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
> Ok, so I'm paranoid...
>
> There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
> Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
> *only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem is, I'd be
> flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon, and then up to
> Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I did some research on is the
> average daily temps, which get into the 102-108 degree F range in
> those SouthWest states...
> and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
> is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max mountain height
> is 10,000'.
>
> What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there in those
> areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there, tell me how bad of
> weather and it's effects am I likely to see during that time of year
> right around July 1st?
>
> I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight, but that's so
> I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
>
> All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the last thing
> I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for a flight. You'd be cooking
> up here.
>
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| Subject: | Re: X/C into a convection oven |
My main Recreational Vehicle has 15 meter wings and no motor so I generally don't
launch until the afternoon and hate smooth.
I would recommend Oxygen for the West, if you cruise below 8,000 you are scraping
rocks, or so it seems, and have a long way to go to a strip. Flying in
some areas below 12K is marginal. I get a headache and go dumb (er) above 9K,
so I have a Mountain High EDS for the glider and two place system in the RV-6.
Wonderful and very low Oxygen use.
Talking to a pilot who just put his Reno racer into a dirt strip in the mountains,
I learned an interesting thing about the wonderful world of GPS and the
applications we use. Apparently he pushed the "Nearest Airport" when the problems
started and discovered the nearest was far out of glide range. He headed
to what appeared to be a level area and found a 3500 foot gravel/rock strip where
he made a semi-successful landing and walked away. The strip was on the
charts, but when he set up his software, he had specified the minimums for a nearest
airport to be some length with a hard surface. So the computer ignored
the airport that most likely saved his life and told him just what he wanted,
but did not need.
Bruce Patton
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| Subject: | Re: X/C into a convection oven |
I have done all of my training in and around Arizona. It really isn't that
bad, you just have to do it early. I've done the afternoons in the summer and
really they aren't too bad, assuming there aren't any thunderstorms around.
Generally, the first thunderstorms seem to start on or within one day of the Fourth
of July. Best bet is to be down before two or three o'clock. You could
also go for the bumpy ride at Va and just avoid the build up.
By the way, it is currently 95 here in Phoenix...uuugghh...I've been here for
seven years and I still don't like it. "Dry heat"....yeah, right....when it
is 110 it doesn't matter if it is dry, damp or wet.....It's too frikken hot!
--Shawn
40366
Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote: Ok, so I'm paranoid...
There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
*only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
mountain height is 10,000'.
What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
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Hee hee - somebody give Tim the coordinates for Area 51 (Groom Lake) and
tell him there's cheap gas there . . .
TDT
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________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
Or you might get run over by a Raptor. Of course you have a couple
big, long, dry lake bed runways about 100 miles north. Weeeeee.
Michael
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:20 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
--> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Tim:
You are, of course, realizing the distinction between Las Vegas, NM
(KLVS) and Las Vegas, NV (KLAS or KVGT or KHND).
I also don't recommend landing at KLSV (Nellis AFB). The Security
Forces guys might not appreciate that . . . !
TDT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
There is but one woman....and I don't argue with a woman with a
gun...especially a rivet gun. ;)
I've been reading all of your on and off list responses and they all
seem to have a common theme. The part that stinks is if I leave from
Wisconsin, I can probably easily make Vegas in one day, but I'd have to
be willing to fly through the worst of it in the afternoon to do that.
Perhaps I would be better flying to Denver or something,
and then get up the next day and leave early? It's hard
to tell what makes a good plan. I am considering the circle route and
coming back up the coast. Actually, it may end up being that I go down
there that way and come back the planned route, as I'm on call the
following week but I'm not for that whole week before. So I have little
time after the 1st, but a bit before.
Thanks everyone for your encouragement and your offers of a home for the
plane!
-
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Conti, Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>
> Tim, I don't understand. Who could possibly force a big guy like you
to
> fly anywhere ?!
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Thank You
> Rick Conti
> Senior Engineering Manager
> The Boeing Company
> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:26 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
> Ok, so I'm paranoid...
>
> There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
> Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
> *only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem is, I'd be
> flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon, and then up to
> Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I did some research on is the
> average daily temps, which get into the 102-108 degree F range in
> those SouthWest states...
> and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
> is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max mountain height
> is 10,000'.
>
> What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there in those
> areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there, tell me how bad of
> weather and it's effects am I likely to see during that time of year
> right around July 1st?
>
> I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight, but that's so
> I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
>
> All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the last thing
> I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for a flight. You'd be cooking
> up here.
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
Scribe lines are mainly for general reference, but often it would probably
be better if they weren't there. Read the instructions, measure and mark,
measure again, read the instructions again (a couple pages ahead if
necessary), measure again, start cutting, measure again, finish cutting,
measure again, smile smugly that you beat the scribe lines with accuracy.
#40415 N415EC in the paint shop to come out in a week looking a lot better,
hopefully.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
352-465-4545
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Testement
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 9:40 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Cabin Door Fit
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Testement" <jwt@roadmapscoaching.com>
I over trimmed my canopy at the bottom edges of the door sill and had to go
back and rebuild the frame to add back about 1/2 inch. This came out great
although is took some time, I think the scribe lines are inaccurate.
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
QB canopy and windshield trim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cabin Door Fit
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Without commenting on each gap, in general I have 1/16-1/8" gap around the
sides, tighter towards the top. A bit more along the bottom edge, and I can
see the door seal. You'll find that the door seals very well, so if you
have a little extra gap I'm betting there is no problem.
I did find that I needed a little extra after I added fabric, so don't let
it get too extremely tight. Wish you could sit in mine and close the doors.
Seeing it makes more sense than building it.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Larry Rosen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
>
> Today I am breathing more fiberglass dust as I work on fitting the
> cabin doors. I have the doors mounted and clecoed together, but not
> yet epoxied together. I have a tight fit between the door and the lip
> of the cabin frame on the top and forward edge. The bottom 8" of the
> froward door to cabin frame has a 1/4" gap. The door sits 1/2" above
> the bottom sill with a 3/8' gap from the door to the return of the
> frame. The back of the door has up to an 1/4" gap. I believe I
> trimmed the cabin top to the scribe line. Do the gaps I described
> above sound correct?
>
> In the future steps of the plans it has the cabin top frame return
> tight to the door. Do I leave enough gap for the upholstery fabric?
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
I don't live there, but being from FL where it can get pretty hot on a long
taxi, the best thing I can suggest is hold the doors open when taxiing, fly
high, make as few stops as possible.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
352-465-4545
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
Ok, so I'm paranoid...
There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
*only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
mountain height is 10,000'.
What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
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(got cut off for some reason)
Talking to a pilot who just put his Reno racer into a dirt strip in the mountains,
I learned an interesting thing about the wonderful world of GPS and the
applications we use. Apparently he pushed the "Nearest Airport" when the problems
started and discovered the nearest was far out of glide range. He headed
to what appeared to be a flat area within glide range and found a 3500 foot gravel/rock
strip. He put it down semi-successfully and walked away.
When he set up the GPS for the "nearest Airport" function, he had asked for a
long runway a hard surface so the computer ignored the airport that probably
saved his life. He was lucky to fly right over the airport which apparently was
not showing on the map for the same reason.
Bruce Patton
Bruce Patton <bpattonsoa@yahoo.com> wrote:
My main Recreational Vehicle has 15 meter wings and no motor so I generally don't
launch until the afternoon and hate smooth.
I would recommend Oxygen for the West, if you cruise below 8,000 you are scraping
rocks, or so it seems, and have a long way to go to a strip. Flying in
some areas below 12K is marginal. I get a headache and go dumb (er) above 9K,
so I have a Mountain High EDS for the glider and two place system in the RV-6.
Wonderful and very low Oxygen use.
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Jesse -
I'm intercepting my husband e-mail because he mentioned this model. Please=20=
don't respond to the greerdans e-mail address. Use the one below.
I wanted to find out how I can order one of the models for him for our 25th=20=
anniversary which is the middle of June. He doesn't have colors picked out,=
but we do have our N number. I think he would be so thrilled with this lit=
tle gift since his real RV 10 is about 2 years away from reality.
My work e-mail is lcostigan@alphabs.com.
Thanks for the info.
Leslie Costigan
-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Saint <jesse@itecusa.org>
Sent: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 19:16:36 -0500
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Model
I think I can get it done, painted, and delivered as soon as the end of next=
week in the States (depending on how close you are to Virginia) for about $=
150. I would just need pictures (or drawings) with as much detail as possib=
le, and whether you want the moving parts painted (ie: doors outlined, contr=
ol surfaces, baggage door, etc.). Tim had that done on his, but we did ours=
without it. I think it looks better without it, personally.
I would also need to know info like N-number, names that you want on the bas=
e, etc.
Let me know. I can get the guy to make more if you want to wait a while, bu=
t it would take longer to get them in.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
352-465-4545
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma=
tronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:05 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Model
Do you have a cost delivered (or flown) to the US?
Robin
10 on order
Do not archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma=
tronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:47 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Model
I have a guy here in Ecuador who makes little models of planes like Tim Olso=
n has of his -10. He has made them for us and the workmanship is first rate=
, even down to the antennas. He has 3 -10=E2=80=99s made, just needs to be=20=
painted. If anybody is interest
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
352-465-4545
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| Subject: | Re: X/C into a convection oven |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
So where can I find them Aliens, and I don't mean them there
illegal kind who's is striking today. I still have to pay them back
for that probe they did when they picked me up years ago.
Oh, and yeah, I figured out the difference between the 2 Vegas's...
I just tried to plot a general route to get a distance and see
the mountain heights. In actuality, I'd adjust it based on
leg length and gas price. Ours just went up .55 cents this week
to 3.609/gal. Still way off from some of the really high prices,
but 2 years ago I would have had to fly to one of the biggest
airports to pay this much.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
> Hee hee somebody give Tim the coordinates for Area 51 (Groom Lake)
> and tell him theres cheap gas there . . .
>
>
>
> TDT
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV Builder
> (Michael Sausen)
> *Sent:* Monday, May 01, 2006 4:51 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
>
>
> Or you might get run over by a Raptor. Of course you have a couple
> big, long, dry lake bed runways about 100 miles north. Weeeeee.
>
> Michael
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Dawson-Townsend
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:20 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
> --> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> Tim:
>
> You are, of course, realizing the distinction between Las Vegas, NM
> (KLVS) and Las Vegas, NV (KLAS or KVGT or KHND).
>
> I also don't recommend landing at KLSV (Nellis AFB). The Security
> Forces guys might not appreciate that . . . !
>
> TDT
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:53 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> There is but one woman....and I don't argue with a woman with a
> gun...especially a rivet gun. ;)
>
> I've been reading all of your on and off list responses and they all
> seem to have a common theme. The part that stinks is if I leave from
> Wisconsin, I can probably easily make Vegas in one day, but I'd have to
> be willing to fly through the worst of it in the afternoon to do that.
> Perhaps I would be better flying to Denver or something,
> and then get up the next day and leave early? It's hard
> to tell what makes a good plan. I am considering the circle route and
> coming back up the coast. Actually, it may end up being that I go down
> there that way and come back the planned route, as I'm on call the
> following week but I'm not for that whole week before. So I have little
> time after the 1st, but a bit before.
>
> Thanks everyone for your encouragement and your offers of a home for the
> plane!
> -
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Conti, Rick wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>>
>> Tim, I don't understand. Who could possibly force a big guy like you
> to
>> fly anywhere ?!
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>> Thank You
>> Rick Conti
>> Senior Engineering Manager
>> The Boeing Company
>> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
>> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:26 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>>
>> Ok, so I'm paranoid...
>>
>> There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
>> Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
>> *only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem is, I'd be
>> flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon, and then up to
>> Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I did some research on is the
>> average daily temps, which get into the 102-108 degree F range in
>> those SouthWest states...
>> and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
>> is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max mountain height
>> is 10,000'.
>>
>> What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there in those
>> areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there, tell me how bad of
>> weather and it's effects am I likely to see during that time of year
>> right around July 1st?
>>
>> I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight, but that's so
>> I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
>>
>> All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the last thing
>> I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for a flight. You'd be cooking
>> up here.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
.55 cents isn't bad in one jump. Now, if it had been 55 cents or .55
dollar(s), that would be a big jump. :-)
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
352-465-4545
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
So where can I find them Aliens, and I don't mean them there
illegal kind who's is striking today. I still have to pay them back
for that probe they did when they picked me up years ago.
Oh, and yeah, I figured out the difference between the 2 Vegas's...
I just tried to plot a general route to get a distance and see
the mountain heights. In actuality, I'd adjust it based on
leg length and gas price. Ours just went up .55 cents this week
to 3.609/gal. Still way off from some of the really high prices,
but 2 years ago I would have had to fly to one of the biggest
airports to pay this much.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
> Hee hee somebody give Tim the coordinates for Area 51 (Groom Lake)
> and tell him theres cheap gas there . . .
>
>
>
> TDT
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV Builder
> (Michael Sausen)
> *Sent:* Monday, May 01, 2006 4:51 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
>
>
> Or you might get run over by a Raptor. Of course you have a couple
> big, long, dry lake bed runways about 100 miles north. Weeeeee.
>
> Michael
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Dawson-Townsend
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:20 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
> --> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> Tim:
>
> You are, of course, realizing the distinction between Las Vegas, NM
> (KLVS) and Las Vegas, NV (KLAS or KVGT or KHND).
>
> I also don't recommend landing at KLSV (Nellis AFB). The Security
> Forces guys might not appreciate that . . . !
>
> TDT
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:53 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> There is but one woman....and I don't argue with a woman with a
> gun...especially a rivet gun. ;)
>
> I've been reading all of your on and off list responses and they all
> seem to have a common theme. The part that stinks is if I leave from
> Wisconsin, I can probably easily make Vegas in one day, but I'd have to
> be willing to fly through the worst of it in the afternoon to do that.
> Perhaps I would be better flying to Denver or something,
> and then get up the next day and leave early? It's hard
> to tell what makes a good plan. I am considering the circle route and
> coming back up the coast. Actually, it may end up being that I go down
> there that way and come back the planned route, as I'm on call the
> following week but I'm not for that whole week before. So I have little
> time after the 1st, but a bit before.
>
> Thanks everyone for your encouragement and your offers of a home for the
> plane!
> -
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Conti, Rick wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>>
>> Tim, I don't understand. Who could possibly force a big guy like you
> to
>> fly anywhere ?!
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>> Thank You
>> Rick Conti
>> Senior Engineering Manager
>> The Boeing Company
>> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
>> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:26 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>>
>> Ok, so I'm paranoid...
>>
>> There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
>> Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
>> *only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem is, I'd be
>> flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon, and then up to
>> Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I did some research on is the
>> average daily temps, which get into the 102-108 degree F range in
>> those SouthWest states...
>> and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
>> is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max mountain height
>> is 10,000'.
>>
>> What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there in those
>> areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there, tell me how bad of
>> weather and it's effects am I likely to see during that time of year
>> right around July 1st?
>>
>> I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight, but that's so
>> I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
>>
>> All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the last thing
>> I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for a flight. You'd be cooking
>> up here.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net>
Tim, as others have mentioned, the desert southwest is primarily a nice ride
in the morning. Be sure to factor in the June/July gloom doom along the
coast in the summer time. Generally speaking there is an overcast in the
mornings until around 11am and it returns about 2-3pm. Some days it is
present all day. I live just inland from Oceanside in Temecula(F70) and it
is usually clear after 10am. The overcast is typically about 1k ft and tops
out at 3k ft and it is very easy to get pop-up approaches into airports and
get the runway well before mins. If you get time, or get stuck, drop by
French Valley (F70) for a visit. Mark N104ML (65hrs)
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Ok, ok, so the increase was actually 100 times bigger than I thought!
:)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Jesse Saint wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> .55 cents isn't bad in one jump. Now, if it had been 55 cents or .55
> dollar(s), that would be a big jump. :-)
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> 352-465-4545
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:53 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> So where can I find them Aliens, and I don't mean them there
> illegal kind who's is striking today. I still have to pay them back
> for that probe they did when they picked me up years ago.
>
> Oh, and yeah, I figured out the difference between the 2 Vegas's...
> I just tried to plot a general route to get a distance and see
> the mountain heights. In actuality, I'd adjust it based on
> leg length and gas price. Ours just went up .55 cents this week
> to 3.609/gal. Still way off from some of the really high prices,
> but 2 years ago I would have had to fly to one of the biggest
> airports to pay this much.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
>> Hee hee somebody give Tim the coordinates for Area 51 (Groom Lake)
>> and tell him theres cheap gas there . . .
>>
>>
>>
>> TDT
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV Builder
>> (Michael Sausen)
>> *Sent:* Monday, May 01, 2006 4:51 PM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>>
>>
>>
>> Or you might get run over by a Raptor. Of course you have a couple
>> big, long, dry lake bed runways about 100 miles north. Weeeeee.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
>> Dawson-Townsend
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:20 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
>> --> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>>
>>
>> Tim:
>>
>> You are, of course, realizing the distinction between Las Vegas, NM
>> (KLVS) and Las Vegas, NV (KLAS or KVGT or KHND).
>>
>> I also don't recommend landing at KLSV (Nellis AFB). The Security
>> Forces guys might not appreciate that . . . !
>>
>> TDT
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 3:53 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> There is but one woman....and I don't argue with a woman with a
>> gun...especially a rivet gun. ;)
>>
>> I've been reading all of your on and off list responses and they all
>> seem to have a common theme. The part that stinks is if I leave from
>> Wisconsin, I can probably easily make Vegas in one day, but I'd have to
>> be willing to fly through the worst of it in the afternoon to do that.
>> Perhaps I would be better flying to Denver or something,
>> and then get up the next day and leave early? It's hard
>> to tell what makes a good plan. I am considering the circle route and
>> coming back up the coast. Actually, it may end up being that I go down
>> there that way and come back the planned route, as I'm on call the
>> following week but I'm not for that whole week before. So I have little
>> time after the 1st, but a bit before.
>>
>> Thanks everyone for your encouragement and your offers of a home for the
>> plane!
>> -
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Conti, Rick wrote:
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
>>>
>>> Tim, I don't understand. Who could possibly force a big guy like you
>> to
>>> fly anywhere ?!
>>>
>>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>>
>>> Thank You
>>> Rick Conti
>>> Senior Engineering Manager
>>> The Boeing Company
>>> office: 703 - 414 - 6141
>>> blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 2:26 PM
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
>>>
>>> Ok, so I'm paranoid...
>>>
>>> There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
>>> Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
>>> *only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem is, I'd be
>>> flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon, and then up to
>>> Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I did some research on is the
>>> average daily temps, which get into the 102-108 degree F range in
>>> those SouthWest states...
>>> and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
>>> is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max mountain height
>>> is 10,000'.
>>>
>>> What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there in those
>>> areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there, tell me how bad of
>>> weather and it's effects am I likely to see during that time of year
>>> right around July 1st?
>>>
>>> I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight, but that's so
>>> I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
>>>
>>> All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the last thing
>>> I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for a flight. You'd be cooking
>>> up here.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> bution
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| Subject: | X/C into a convection oven |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
At least here in Vegas it's a dry heat.
Bob K
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
Ok, so I'm paranoid...
There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
*only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
mountain height is 10,000'.
What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | X/C into a convection oven |
Well the weather in Vegas, the Nevada one is really bad that time of year.
You have terrible visability and really can't see much farther than 80 or 90
miles. It's ocassionally overcast, high thin that is, and generally the con
level is around 40,000 feet. Thermals pick up in the afternoon, so its best
to fly in the morning, afternoons, the temperatures make for a longer
landing roll. May take the 10 almost 800 feet to get airborn. Learn to
taxi with the doors open, and get high fast, 10,000 is a nice cruise
altitude. May be afternoon thundertstorms, but real fireworks is in the
Valley on the 4th. If you are real lucky, you may also be able to see a
building implosion, so come on down.
Bob K
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Moon
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
I have done all of my training in and around Arizona. It really isn't
that bad, you just have to do it early. I've done the afternoons in the
summer and really they aren't too bad, assuming there aren't any
thunderstorms around. Generally, the first thunderstorms seem to start on
or within one day of the Fourth of July. Best bet is to be down before two
or three o'clock. You could also go for the bumpy ride at Va and just avoid
the build up.
By the way, it is currently 95 here in Phoenix...uuugghh...I've been here
for seven years and I still don't like it. "Dry heat"....yeah,
right....when it is 110 it doesn't matter if it is dry, damp or wet.....It's
too frikken hot!
--Shawn
40366
Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
Ok, so I'm paranoid...
There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
*only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
mountain height is 10,000'.
What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
You can hangar your plane in VGT at our hangar, we have the room.
Bob K
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
Ok, so I'm paranoid...
There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
*only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
mountain height is 10,000'.
What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Riviting the tailcone |
Do not archive
Back riveting on the fuselage.
The attached pictures show a rivet set machined to a flat face with a 1/32"
deep flat cut. This holds the set on the rivet shop end. The other is the
bucking bar, 5-3/4" long with a polished 2" face. I had mine made by a
friend but I suspect they are also available for sale.
This combination works well on almost all rivet locations and is easier to
handle than the backing plate.
Cal Hoffman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 11:22 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Riviting the tailcone
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright"
<armywrights@adelphia.net>
>
> My back rivet set hasn't held up well, and it didn't have enough clearance
> beside some of the J-channel, so I just used my flush set and was careful
to
> keep it level and not allow it to slide off, which happened anyway a few
> times. Just hit the rivet one more time in a level attitude and it looks
> great!
>
> Rob
> #392
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:57 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Riviting the tailcone
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Yes, it is very doable. I did it on mine. Just take your time and move
your
> back riveting plate down each row of rivets taking care to make sure the
> plate is on the rivet and the skin is resting flush on the plate. If I
> recall there is a few you can't/might not be able to do alone. It can get
> awkward moving around that big ole tub on your bench. I could figure out
how
> to do it in my sleep now after plugging away on this project for two+
years.
> Step back, look at what you want to do, it is pretty easy to develop a
back
> rivet plant...mine came out real nice. Gt ready to become a building
wizard
> as time go on.
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
> Fuse/finish
>
>
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| Subject: | Riviting the tailcone |
A normal (spring loaded) back rivet set is more user friendly. I have
used the 12" offset backrivet set (almost identical to the one pictured,
just longer and slightly offset). It is a pig to use and if you have
the set at even a slight angle, you will dent the skin - ask how I know.
If you must use a set like this, and there are places where it is
invaluable, I would suggest slicing a soft pencil eraser block (eg
Staedtler or Faber Castel) about 1/32-1/16" thick, putting a 1/8" hole
in it and placing this over the rivet before it is set. It will serve
the dual purpose of squeezing the flange/skins together and preventing
any dents in the metal. Works real well with a squeezer also - see
before and after pictures attached. Don't have the eraser too thick,
the rivet won't set and you will work harden just the end.
cheers,
Ron
#187 fuse
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Cal Hoffman
Sent: Tuesday, 2 May 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Riviting the tailcone
Do not archive
Back riveting on the fuselage.
The attached pictures show a rivet set machined to a flat face with a
1/32"
deep flat cut. This holds the set on the rivet shop end. The other is
the
bucking bar, 5-3/4" long with a polished 2" face. I had mine made by a
friend but I suspect they are also available for sale.
This combination works well on almost all rivet locations and is easier
to
handle than the backing plate.
Cal Hoffman
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| Subject: | True Flight software |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Anyone have any experience with this software. I am considering installing
on my notebook with portable GPS and WXworx in my Glastar until the 10 gets
finished.
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| Subject: | Riviting the tailcone |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
Avery at least, and I am sure many others have a great back-rivet set with a
plastic sleeve and a spring. This sets wonderful rivets. Also, we have a
round bucking bar about 3.5 inches in diameter and about 1.75 inches thick
that works great and allows for bucking 2-3 rivets without moving it. That
works great. In places that can be laid flat, a 4x8 table with a 1/4" steel
top works awesome, but it is a bear to move, weighing around 800lbs
probably.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
352-465-4545
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cal Hoffman
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Riviting the tailcone
Do not archive
Back riveting on the fuselage.
The attached pictures show a rivet set machined to a flat face with a 1/32"
deep flat cut. This holds the set on the rivet shop end. The other is the
bucking bar, 5-3/4" long with a polished 2" face. I had mine made by a
friend but I suspect they are also available for sale.
This combination works well on almost all rivet locations and is easier to
handle than the backing plate.
Cal Hoffman
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 11:22 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Riviting the tailcone
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright"
<armywrights@adelphia.net>
>
> My back rivet set hasn't held up well, and it didn't have enough clearance
> beside some of the J-channel, so I just used my flush set and was careful
to
> keep it level and not allow it to slide off, which happened anyway a few
> times. Just hit the rivet one more time in a level attitude and it looks
> great!
>
> Rob
> #392
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:57 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Riviting the tailcone
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> Yes, it is very doable. I did it on mine. Just take your time and move
your
> back riveting plate down each row of rivets taking care to make sure the
> plate is on the rivet and the skin is resting flush on the plate. If I
> recall there is a few you can't/might not be able to do alone. It can get
> awkward moving around that big ole tub on your bench. I could figure out
how
> to do it in my sleep now after plugging away on this project for two+
years.
> Step back, look at what you want to do, it is pretty easy to develop a
back
> rivet plant...mine came out real nice. Gt ready to become a building
wizard
> as time go on.
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
> Fuse/finish
>
>
--
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| Subject: | True Flight software |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
We have been flying with a flight cheetah since soon after OSH last year.
When it works it is awesome. They have some great features, especially the
ease of pulling up a plate of the selected approach, but it has been less
than super-stable. Maybe it is our setup, maybe it is their software, maybe
it is their hardware, maybe it is our flying style (very high, using a
spinning hard drive), and maybe a combination of the above. If you aren't
flying high, you can eliminate one of these variables. If you go Bluetooth,
then you will have less problems with cables and things like that (which has
proven a little bit of a bear for us. If you use a good computer that you
know is stable in flight, that might help. Again, when it works, it is
AWESOME! When it does not work, well, it is useless, of course. I think
overall I would recommend it. Oh, the best deal is the updates. You get
all navaids, all plates, all software updates, for about $200 a year, if it
hasn't changed. That's hard to beat.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
352-465-4545
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 9:18 PM
Subject: RV10-List: True Flight software
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Anyone have any experience with this software. I am considering installing
on my notebook with portable GPS and WXworx in my Glastar until the 10 gets
finished.
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QB fuse and wings arrived today! Inventory is done (check the timestamp!)
and I have no more room in my workshop. Cabin top will have to go to the
hangar for a while.My RV grin can only get bigger.
Rob
#392
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| Subject: | X/C into a convection oven |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
If forced, then go commercial. Don't do anything in a small GA until you
know you're ready to push _your_ limits.
rob
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: X/C into a convection oven
Ok, so I'm paranoid...
There's a chance that I might be forcibly ordered to fly from
Wisconsin to San Diego, CA for a wedding on July 1st. It's
*only* a 12 hour flight, so that's no problem. The problem
is, I'd be flying down to New Mexico, across the Grand Canyon,
and then up to Vegas and down to San Diego. One thing I
did some research on is the average daily temps, which get
into the 102-108 degree F range in those SouthWest states...
and that's "average". The other much more minor issue
is the mountains, as it looks like on my route my max
mountain height is 10,000'.
What I'd like to know is, can someone who lives down there
in those areas, or anywhere in between Wisconsin and there,
tell me how bad of weather and it's effects am I likely
to see during that time of year right around July 1st?
I've attached a picture of my route. It's not straight,
but that's so I can do some visiting and sightseeing.
All I know is if it was 105 degrees up where I live, the
last thing I'd want do do is climb in my airplane for
a flight. You'd be cooking up here.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
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ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV10-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV10-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV10-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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RV10-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV10-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV10-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RV10-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV10-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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