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1. 01:05 AM - Re: Pneumatic squeezerPneumatic squeezer (Michael Wellenzohn)
2. 05:23 AM - Re: Aileron Pushrod Assemblies (Jesse Saint)
3. 05:23 AM - Re: Performance numbers at highter alt. (Jesse Saint)
4. 07:54 AM - Re: Aileron Pushrod Assemblies (James Hein)
5. 07:59 AM - Aileron Pushrod Assemblies (Jay Brinkmeyer)
6. 08:30 AM - How many sold? (John Jessen)
7. 08:31 AM - Wavier and Release of Liability Agreement (Mark Ritter)
8. 08:43 AM - Re: Off Field Landing (pilotdds@aol.com)
9. 12:15 PM - Re: Off Field Landing (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
10. 12:27 PM - Re: Off Field Landing (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
11. 12:50 PM - Re: Off Field Landing (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
12. 01:17 PM - seat heaters (Chris Johnston)
13. 02:09 PM - Re: Off Field Landing (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
14. 06:51 PM - Re: Tank Baffle Orientation (Chris)
15. 06:51 PM - Re: Aileron Pushrod Assemblies (Chris)
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| Subject: | Re: Pneumatic squeezerPneumatic squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn" <michael@wellenzohn.net>
Thank you all for your feedback!
Its all correct what you said, but I actually found out that you require
for this specific yoke a longer set holder.
The 4 ” yoke has a 1-1/4 ” base and requires a 2--13/16 ”
set holder when used on a pneumatic squeezer
Michael
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Michael Wellenzohn
#40511 (VS)
Zrich,Switzerland
michael@wellenzohn.net
www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | Aileron Pushrod Assemblies |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
Kit 40415 came with the teardrop shape already in it. The plans still
showed the rectangle, but the teardrop shape was there. We had to cut the
teardrop in the doubler, but it was already in the spar.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
352-465-4545
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Panning
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:46 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aileron Pushrod Assemblies
--> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
The next "challenge" you will find is when aileron
pushrods get installed onto the wing. I suspect that
everyone without a teardrop shaped aperture on the
rear spar will be doing some grinding soon... The
point of the "drop" goes a little into the hinge
itself. You can mount it up and see the clearance
issue right away with the retangular hole that came
stock from Van's. Randy had to widen. I will on kit
40150. Factory plane also has this cut out to a tear
drop shape to prevent rubbing/binding. I snapped a pic
of this awhile ago on the factory plane.
Not sure why this is not a revision from Van's.
Perhaps it has changed on kits beyond mine? I pointed
it out here about 2-3 months ago when I was worried
about the range of travel for autopilots and worked
with Randy to get the numbers for his.
Make sure you have full range of travel without any
rubbing or binding. To check full range to need wings
linked or measure angles. There is only one hard stop
for travel per wing (together they are full stops)
Eric
--- Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> wrote:
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick Ron,
I love when you get to the next step the day before
me!!! :) My 1064 rods are 13-1/8" if I went off the
plans I would have had to cut them to 12-5/8" and use
bushings. Thanks to your post...I don't have to make
the bushings or cut the rods!!!! Thanks Mate!!! This
time you saved me!!
One more Shrimp on the Barbie I owe ya!!
Rick S.
40185
Fuse/Finishing
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| Subject: | Performance numbers at highter alt. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
Up 3 degrees from even with the wing cord is the cruise setting. We also
use this for climb so as not to forget to put it up, although they recommend
flat for climb.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
352-465-4545
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Panning
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:21 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Performance numbers at highter alt.
--> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
I thought at one point the RV-10 was going to have a
negative flap position for better cruise speeds. Does
anyone recall this as well? is full up zero or
slightly negative?
Eric
--- Randy DeBauw <Randy@abros.com> wrote:
> The 198 mph number on my plane was before I found
> the rigging problem.
> After running the numbers Ken Kruger recommended
> that I check the
> rigging. On the way home from Oshkosh I found that
> the Ailerons were
> 3/8" of an inch down from the flaps. I must not of
> had the flaps all of
> the way up when I set the Ailerons to match. I have
> not rerun the
> flight test to get a more accurate number. Randy
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of Verizon
> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:17 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Performance numbers at
> highter alt.
>
>
>
> Randy;
>
> I saw this report about props somewhere in my
> researching the RV-10 to
> death. Seeing your plane was compared to Vic
> Syracuse and the company
> plane, wondering if you could expand on this report,
> how valid is it?
>
> Didn't see anything in the archives that covered if
> it did, please let
> me know where to look as I find the 11mph loss of
> the MT prop on Vic's
> plane compared to the 2 blade rather interesting.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Pascal
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Randy DeBauw <mailto:Randy@abros.com>
>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>
> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 10:35 AM
>
> Subject: RV10-List: Performance numbers at highter
> alt.
>
>
>
> 10.500 alt
>
> 20.6 mp
>
> 2300 rpm
>
> 12.4 gph
>
> 136 ind
>
> 162 adj
>
> 159 gs
>
>
>
> 10,520 alt.
>
> 11,390 density alt Dynon
>
> 136kts ind
>
> 160 kts adj.
>
> 155 kts gs.
>
> 12.2 gph
>
> 62% power
>
>
>
> 13,500
>
> 13,610 adj dynon
>
> 11.3 gph
>
> 18.3 mp
>
> 2300 rpm
>
> 130 kts ind.
>
> 162 kts adj
>
> 12 gph
>
> 151 kts gs (headwind)
>
>
>
> Randy N610RV
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Pushrod Assemblies |
--> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
Kit 40384 (With Wing Main spar assemblies S/N 350) also had the teardrop
in the rear spars, but not on the plans.
-Jim 40384
Jesse Saint wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
>Kit 40415 came with the teardrop shape already in it. The plans still
>showed the rectangle, but the teardrop shape was there. We had to cut the
>teardrop in the doubler, but it was already in the spar.
>
>Jesse Saint
>I-TEC, Inc.
>jesse@itecusa.org
>www.itecusa.org
>352-465-4545
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Panning
>Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 11:46 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aileron Pushrod Assemblies
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
>
>The next "challenge" you will find is when aileron
>pushrods get installed onto the wing. I suspect that
>everyone without a teardrop shaped aperture on the
>rear spar will be doing some grinding soon... The
>point of the "drop" goes a little into the hinge
>itself. You can mount it up and see the clearance
>issue right away with the retangular hole that came
>stock from Van's. Randy had to widen. I will on kit
>40150. Factory plane also has this cut out to a tear
>drop shape to prevent rubbing/binding. I snapped a pic
>of this awhile ago on the factory plane.
>
>Not sure why this is not a revision from Van's.
>Perhaps it has changed on kits beyond mine? I pointed
>it out here about 2-3 months ago when I was worried
>about the range of travel for autopilots and worked
>with Randy to get the numbers for his.
>
>Make sure you have full range of travel without any
>rubbing or binding. To check full range to need wings
>linked or measure angles. There is only one hard stop
>for travel per wing (together they are full stops)
>
>Eric
>
>
>--- Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>---------------------------------
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick Ron,
>
>I love when you get to the next step the day before
>me!!! :) My 1064 rods are 13-1/8" if I went off the
>plans I would have had to cut them to 12-5/8" and use
>bushings. Thanks to your post...I don't have to make
>the bushings or cut the rods!!!! Thanks Mate!!! This
>time you saved me!!
>
>One more Shrimp on the Barbie I owe ya!!
>
>Rick S.
>40185
>Fuse/Finishing
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Aileron Pushrod Assemblies |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
Does anyone have photos of there modifications?
Thanks,
Jay
--> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
The next "challenge" you will find is when aileron
pushrods get installed onto the wing. I suspect that
everyone without a teardrop shaped aperture on the
rear spar will be doing some grinding soon... The
point of the "drop" goes a little into the hinge
itself. You can mount it up and see the clearance
issue right away with the retangular hole that came
stock from Van's. Randy had to widen. I will on kit
40150. Factory plane also has this cut out to a tear
drop shape to prevent rubbing/binding. I snapped a pic
of this awhile ago on the factory plane.
Not sure why this is not a revision from Van's.
Perhaps it has changed on kits beyond mine? I pointed
it out here about 2-3 months ago when I was worried
about the range of travel for autopilots and worked
with Randy to get the numbers for his.
Make sure you have full range of travel without any
rubbing or binding. To check full range to need wings
linked or measure angles. There is only one hard stop
for travel per wing (together they are full stops)
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Anyone have a clue what the currently sold kit number is? The last count I
have is at 579.
john jessen
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| Subject: | Wavier and Release of Liability Agreement |
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| Subject: | Re: Off Field Landing |
It was not me on the off field but I have been running mogas exclusively the=
last four hours.Would be concerned with vapor lock issues relative to fligh=
t conditions.
-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Sent: Mon, 8 May 2006 18:27:33 -0700
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Off Field Landing
James Rore (N728DD), Albert Cook (N329BC), Leroy Williams (N231LD), Ed McGin=
ty (N770BD), Mark Christiansen (N104ML), Doug Petersen (N410DP), or Randy D=
eBauw (N610RV) would be the seven logicals on the West Coast (from the build=
er names in my database). Sounds like Randy is fine. Mark are you out ther=
e?
John =93 KUAO
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@ma=
tronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 6:03 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Off Field Landing
Does anyone have information about an off field landing of an RV-10 in the w=
est about 2 weeks ago? I heard from a local pilot that a -10 that had recent=
ly visited SBP (San Luis Obispo) then later in the week made a forced landin=
g due to engine failure. The local pilot had strong feelings that the failur=
e was related to fuel vapor lock.
I am sorry for the sketchy information but it would be of benefit to learn t=
he particulars.
Robin
RV-6A 300 hours
RV-10 Tail Feathers
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| Subject: | Re: Off Field Landing |
In a message dated 5/9/06 2:07:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rv10@sinkrate.com writes:
Tough to say if I have the story right cause I was still grinning from ear
to ear after the =9Claunch=9D off the runway in 410RV
So how many of us have logged time in 410 Romeo Victor?
Patrick
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| Subject: | Off Field Landing |
How many of us are almost done building and have never flown in a -10 at
all? (Time for transition training!)
TDT
40025
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Off Field Landing
In a message dated 5/9/06 2:07:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rv10@sinkrate.com writes:
Tough to say if I have the story right cause I was still
grinning from ear to ear after the launch off the runway in 410RV
So how many of us have logged time in 410 Romeo Victor?
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: Off Field Landing |
Other than a somewhat odd stall characteristic (somewhat sharpish break to
the left and initial nose down, even with some hard right rudder peddle...and
one could go into a stall spin from that point if you're not quick to recover
or so it felt) compared to Cessna/Piper it handled like most planes I've
flown...but very smooth and gentle in the flair, acceleration very good, good
ground handling with a lively rudder instead of toe tapping as in a Tiger, the
RV 10 rudder is more responsive IMHO that other castering nose wheel planes
I've had the pleasure to fly. But this is only my impression as the flight
was fairly short and so was ground handling but I'd give it very good marks,
none the less.
Patrick
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You know you're building a cruising pleasure craft when you're ordering
seat heaters for your 10 (or you have an always freezing significant
other in the copilot seat). I feel a bit ridiculous going for it, but
since I am, I'll just put it out there. On the VAF website, someone had
listed that there's a VAF discount on seat heaters that makes them a
pretty excellent deal. I ordered the 2 seat version, and it came up to
around $160. anyway, here's the link at VAF - check it out...
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t6871
cj
#40410
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net <http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/>
wings/fuse
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| Subject: | Off Field Landing |
I'm lucky as Alex Dominicis is sanctioned by Van, lives about 20 miles
from me, AND he has air conditioning! Woo hoo! Of course not all
insurance companies have sanctioned him yet. D'oh!
http://www.rvtraining.com/
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
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Recent RV-10 Build Activity
<http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id22>
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Off Field Landing
How many of us are almost done building and have never flown in a -10 at
all? (Time for transition training!)
TDT
40025
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Off Field Landing
In a message dated 5/9/06 2:07:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rv10@sinkrate.com writes:
Tough to say if I have the story right cause I was still grinning from
ear to ear after the launch off the runway in 410RV
So how many of us have logged time in 410 Romeo Victor?
Patrick
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Tank Baffle Orientation |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris" <toaster73@earthlink.net>
One thing you might need to check is if you don't put the baffle on
correctly could the z-brackets end up not lining up with the holes in the
main spar?
-Chris
#40072
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tank Baffle Orientation
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> We put it in wrong to start with, but then realized the error and flipped
> it, drilled the extra hole in the side that didn't need it, and riveted it
> correctly as it should have been. The plans don't say anything about that
> orientation and I couldn't see any difference, but just to be safe, we
> riveted it the way it should have been based on the holes and now have an
> extra rivet on the other side.
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse@itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> 352-465-4545
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:37 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Tank Baffle Orientation
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
>
> The lower flange of the tank baffle has two closely spaced holes at
> the center that match up with two closely spaced holes on the bottom
> of the tank skin. I've managed to assemble and drill the tank baffle
> to the ribs, Attach Z's and skin with the two closely spaced holes of
> the baffle facing up instead of down. This is the only asymmetrical
> aspect of the baffle orientation that I can see.
>
> It seems that the solution is to drill out the 2nd holes and put in
> an extra rivet. Does anyone see a problem with this?
>
> Jeff Carpenter
> 40304
> N410CF
>
>
> --
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Pushrod Assemblies |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris" <toaster73@earthlink.net>
Mine came as teardrop shape but I ordered my wings about a year ago, so I
think it depends on when you ordered your wings not what kit number you
have.
-Chris
#40072
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Panning" <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:45 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aileron Pushrod Assemblies
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
>
> The next "challenge" you will find is when aileron
> pushrods get installed onto the wing. I suspect that
> everyone without a teardrop shaped aperture on the
> rear spar will be doing some grinding soon... The
> point of the "drop" goes a little into the hinge
> itself. You can mount it up and see the clearance
> issue right away with the retangular hole that came
> stock from Van's. Randy had to widen. I will on kit
> 40150. Factory plane also has this cut out to a tear
> drop shape to prevent rubbing/binding. I snapped a pic
> of this awhile ago on the factory plane.
>
> Not sure why this is not a revision from Van's.
> Perhaps it has changed on kits beyond mine? I pointed
> it out here about 2-3 months ago when I was worried
> about the range of travel for autopilots and worked
> with Randy to get the numbers for his.
>
> Make sure you have full range of travel without any
> rubbing or binding. To check full range to need wings
> linked or measure angles. There is only one hard stop
> for travel per wing (together they are full stops)
>
> Eric
>
>
> --- Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick Ron,
>
> I love when you get to the next step the day before
> me!!! :) My 1064 rods are 13-1/8" if I went off the
> plans I would have had to cut them to 12-5/8" and use
> bushings. Thanks to your post...I don't have to make
> the bushings or cut the rods!!!! Thanks Mate!!! This
> time you saved me!!
>
> One more Shrimp on the Barbie I owe ya!!
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
> Fuse/Finishing
>
>
>
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