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1. 03:51 AM - Re: ding (Rob Kermanj)
2. 06:55 AM - Re: GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI (Brinker)
3. 07:14 AM - Re: GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI (Conti, Rick)
4. 07:24 AM - Re: GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI (Rene Felker)
5. 08:27 AM - Re: Recent pictures of N519RV (40250) and Weight and Balance (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
6. 08:46 AM - Rudderedge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) (Michael Wellenzohn)
7. 08:49 AM - Rudderedge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) (Michael Wellenzohn)
8. 09:02 AM - Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) (Michael Wellenzohn)
9. 09:31 AM - Re: Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) (John Jessen)
10. 09:42 AM - Re: Rudderedge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) (Jesse Saint)
11. 10:12 AM - Re: New Trip to Central Ca. (Randy DeBauw)
12. 10:14 AM - Re: New Trip to Central Ca. (Randy DeBauw)
13. 10:16 AM - Re: New Trip to Central Ca. (Randy DeBauw)
14. 11:25 AM - Re: Rudderedge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) (Conti, Rick)
15. 11:56 AM - Re: Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) (Brian Sponcil)
16. 01:03 PM - Re: Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) (Chris , Susie Darcy)
17. 04:00 PM - Re: New Trip to Central Ca. (Jack Sargeant)
18. 04:43 PM - Re: New Trip to Central Ca. (McGANN, Ron)
19. 06:20 PM - Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande (John W. Cox)
20. 06:55 PM - Re: New Trip to Central Ca. (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
21. 07:01 PM - Re: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande (Rick)
22. 07:29 PM - Re: Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) (Rick)
23. 07:49 PM - Re: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande (John W. Cox)
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com>
Have you consodere the "dent removal" guys? Best time to do it is now
since you have access to it from inside the wing.
Do not archive.
On 5/16/06, Robert G. Wright <armywrights@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
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> Well, my airplane's had its first accident, a Controlled Flight into
> Terrain, where my left wing spar, clamp, block of wood and all, fell off of
> the wing cradle, and the leading edge at the root hit the workshop's
> concrete floor.
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> I guess about 2 inches of the leading edge is flattened off somewhat. At
> least the flanges of the fuel tank's leading edge rib that bent up are ones
> that don't have rivets in them, so flattening them back down and adding more
> proseal should do the trick to fix that.
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> I'm glad Van's included the leading edge templates in the box o' goodies so
> I can reshape the leading edge as best I can and drive on. After 5 minutes
> of walking around outside cooling off, I figured to "just fix it," to
> paraphrase Van's personnel's most-often quoted saying, and keep going. No
> sense wasting energy and time moping around thinking of the "perfect fix"
> (there is none, whatever you decide to do). Maybe it's like when your brand
> new car gets its first major scratch; now it's got character!
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> No pics. Don't want it immortalized. Like I said, just deal with it and
> move on. Too much more building to do, and places like the wine country to
> see!
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> Do not archive
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> Rob
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> #392
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| Subject: | Re: GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brinker" <brinker@cox-internet.com>
Most MD200-306 I've found are priced around $1550. I found
one place on the net for $1395 at .avionicsunlimited.com. Has anyone delt
with them ?
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
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> ... and the MD200-306 is less expensive.
> Anh
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> From: "Werner Schneider" <glastar@gmx.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:35 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI
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>> The GI-106A is identical with the MD200-206 and Tim is 100% correct the
>> 306 has a BC function
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>>> I think the difference is there is some Localizer Back-course functions
>>> in the MD200-306 that isn't in the GI-106A.
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>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> do not archive
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>>> Brinker wrote:
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>>>> Can anyone tell me the difference between the
>>>> GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI/LOC/GS ?
>>>> I have looked at the Garmin description on both and they seem to have
>>>> the same features.
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>>>> Randy
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| Subject: | GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
Try Stark avionics. I found he had the best prices for all avionics.
http://www.starkavionics.com/products.htm
Thank You
Rick Conti
office: 703 - 414 - 6141
blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
-----Original Message-----
From: Brinker [mailto:brinker@cox-internet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brinker" <brinker@cox-internet.com>
Most MD200-306 I've found are priced around $1550. I
found
one place on the net for $1395 at .avionicsunlimited.com. Has anyone
delt
with them ?
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
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> ... and the MD200-306 is less expensive.
> Anh
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Werner Schneider" <glastar@gmx.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:35 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI
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>> The GI-106A is identical with the MD200-206 and Tim is 100% correct
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>> Tim Olson wrote:
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>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
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>>> I think the difference is there is some Localizer Back-course
functions
>>> in the MD200-306 that isn't in the GI-106A.
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> do not archive
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>>> Brinker wrote:
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<brinker@cox-internet.com>
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>>>> Can anyone tell me the difference between the
>>>> GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI/LOC/GS ?
>>>> I have looked at the Garmin description on both and they seem to
have
>>>> the same features.
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>>>> Randy
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| Subject: | GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
Try Stark.
http://www.starkavionics.com/products.htm
md 200-306 $1445 + $17 shipping.
gi-106a $1450 + $16 shipping
They did a great job for me.
Rene' Felker
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brinker
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brinker" <brinker@cox-internet.com>
Most MD200-306 I've found are priced around $1550. I found
one place on the net for $1395 at .avionicsunlimited.com. Has anyone delt
with them ?
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
>
> ... and the MD200-306 is less expensive.
> Anh
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Werner Schneider" <glastar@gmx.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:35 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI
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>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Werner Schneider <glastar@gmx.net>
>>
>> The GI-106A is identical with the MD200-206 and Tim is 100% correct the
>> 306 has a BC function
>>
>> br Werner
>>
>> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>>
>>> I think the difference is there is some Localizer Back-course functions
>>> in the MD200-306 that isn't in the GI-106A.
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> do not archive
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>>> Brinker wrote:
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>>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brinker" <brinker@cox-internet.com>
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me the difference between the
>>>> GARMIN GI-106A VS. MD200-306 CDI/LOC/GS ?
>>>> I have looked at the Garmin description on both and they seem to have
>>>> the same features.
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| Subject: | Recent pictures of N519RV (40250) and Weight and Balance |
I made the panels from .020 aluminum sheets.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
CDNI Principal Engineer
Sprint PCS
16020 West 113th Street
Lenexa, KS 66219
Mailstop KSLNXK0101
(913) 859-1414 (Office)
(913) 226-0106 (Pcs)
(913) 859-1234 (Fax)
Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:02 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Recent pictures of N519RV (40250) and Weight and
Balance
Ray,
Nice, clean looking interior. Are the side panels painted aluminum
sheet or vinyl with snaps? It's kind of hard to tell by the pictures
and I'm trying to firm up what I'll be doing on the sides.
Thanks,
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:38 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Recent pictures of N519RV (40250) and Weight and
Balance
Here are a few recent pictures of N519RV (40250). I also
completed the W & B yesterday, which weighed in at 1587 lbs.
Nose Wheel 369 lbs Arm 49.82
Right Main 609 lbs Arm 123.82
Left Main 609 lbs Arm 123.69
For the Weight and Balance, the gear leg fairings, wheel
pants and intersect fairing were not installed. The exterior of the
plane in not painted, but the interior is complete with carpet interior
panels all painted except the insides of the doors.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250 (N519RV) (DAR scheduled for Mon May 22nd, First Flight scheduled
for Fri May 26th)
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| Subject: | Rudderedge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn" <michael@wellenzohn.net>
Hello,
when you primed your rudder skins did you tape the edge so that the ProSeal
would stick to the bare metal or not. (I use DuPont 820R Primer).
Best Regards
Michael
Michael Wellenzohn
#40511 (VS)
Zuerich,Switzerland
michael@wellenzohn.net
www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | Rudderedge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn" <michael@wellenzohn.net>
Hello,
when you primed your rudder skins did you tape the edge so that the ProSeal
would stick to the bare metal or not. (I use DuPont 820R Primer).
Best Regards
Michael
Michael Wellenzohn
#40511 (VS)
Zuerich,Switzerland
michael@wellenzohn.net
www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn" <michael@wellenzohn.net>
Hello,
when you primed your rudder skins did you tape the edge so that the ProSeal
would stick to the bare metal or just prime the edge too and apply the
ProSeal on top of it?. (I use DuPont 820R Primer in case that matters).
Best Regards
Michael
Michael Wellenzohn
#40511 (VS)
Zuerich,Switzerland
michael@wellenzohn.net
www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Michael,
I primed the entire skin, then added the proseal. Remember that the proseal
is only there to help hold things in position for the next steps. It is not
even needed, and some builders do not use it at all. Take a look at some of
the web sites for alternative ways of handling trailing edges. I followed
the instructions and it apparently worked fine.
John Jessen
328 (Tailcone)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:02 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn"
--> <michael@wellenzohn.net>
Hello,
when you primed your rudder skins did you tape the edge so that the ProSeal
would stick to the bare metal or just prime the edge too and apply the
ProSeal on top of it?. (I use DuPont 820R Primer in case that matters).
Best Regards
Michael
Michael Wellenzohn
#40511 (VS)
Zuerich,Switzerland
michael@wellenzohn.net
www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | Rudderedge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
Yes, you scuff it well and then tape it so the paint doesn't get there.
This is true for everywhere you are going to put proseal.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
352-465-4545
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:45 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Rudderedge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn"
<michael@wellenzohn.net>
Hello,
when you primed your rudder skins did you tape the edge so that the ProSeal
would stick to the bare metal or not. (I use DuPont 820R Primer).
Best Regards
Michael
Michael Wellenzohn
#40511 (VS)
Zuerich,Switzerland
michael@wellenzohn.net
www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | New Trip to Central Ca. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
Keep us posted. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Evan and
Megan Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Trip to Central Ca.
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson"
<evmeg@snowcrest.net>
I didn't read the whole string so forgive me if it has already been
mentioned.....Napa is reputed to have a very good restaurant. I am going
there this Saturday on a cross country and am looking forward to a good
steak.
Evan Johnson
www.evansaviationproducts.com
(530)247-0375
(530)351-1776 cell
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Trip to Central Ca.
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
>
> That depends upon which wineries you plan to visit. Napa is located at
> the south end of the Napa Valley., So most of the Napa county
wineries
> are North from there. Sonoma county is at the North end of the Sonoma
> Valley, but smack dab in the middle of the Alexander valley. And
closer
> to the Mendocino county wineries. I believe that Sonoma county
provides
> the best overall access. If you have a car it's not a big deal which
> airport as you can drive from Sonoma county to Napa airport in about
45
> min. You can take a slight longer routt that goes from Santa Rosa over
> the Calistoga Hwy and then heads down the Napa Valley. (1:15) This is
a
> beautiful time to visit, if you get there before early June the hills
> that surround the valleys should still be green.
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Fuse
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
> Randy DeBauw wrote:
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> >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
> >
> >Thanks for the input. Is Sonoma or Napa better to be centrally
located
> >in the wine country? Randy
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems
Davis
> >Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:55 PM
> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Trip to Central Ca.
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> >--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
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> >I used to live in Santa Rosa, and am pretty familiar with the area.
> >Angwin is a small airport located in the top of the hills on the east
> >side of the Sonoma valley. Services are limited there, I doubt that
> >they have rental cars available. Sonoma County (Charles Schultz)KSTS
has
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> >several rental car companies to choose from. Your other alternative
> >would be Napa airport where I'm sure they have rental cars. Depending
> >upon where you plan to stay either Sonoma county or Napa would be
fine.
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> >Deems Davis # 406
> >Fuse
> >http://deemsrv10.com/
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> >>Well it is time to go flying again. Looking for a little wine
country
> >>tour. Is anyone familiar with Angwin-Parrett airport or Sonoma
> >>County. Which is better for rental cars and hotel access. Randy
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| Subject: | New Trip to Central Ca. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
I may have to change my trip to the end of the month. It sounds like
late Aug. will be out of the peek season for temps. Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 5:21 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: New Trip to Central Ca.
Don't forget the possibility of visiting the central California coast of
San Luis Obispo to Paso Robles. Both are excellent airports and the wine
industry is exploding in the area. We must have 100+ wineries all within
10 miles of each airport. Right now the area is magical with blue ocean
waters & green mountains. As the summer progresses you will want to
consider San Luis Obispo for its cooler temperatures. We also have
Hearst Castle San Simeon state park and much more.
SBP http://www.airnav.com/airport/KSBP
PRB http://www.airnav.com/airport/Kprb
Photos attached are from just south of Morro Bay near MQO VORTAC &
Diablo Nuclear Power Plant (why our grapes grow so big!) Note my RV-6A
in the photo
Robin
RV-4 Sold
RV-6A 300 Hours
RV-10 First flight... 12/2007?
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| Subject: | New Trip to Central Ca. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
Excellent detail. Thx.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian S
Douglas
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Trip to Central Ca.
--> RV10-List message posted by: Brian S Douglas
<bsponcil@belinblank.org>
My wife and I spent a week in/around Napa on our way to the Reno Air
Races last fall and my impressions were:
1. Sonoma is quieter and the wineries there tend to be the small,
family owned production you've likely never heard of. The kind of
laid back place where there's a cat sleeping on the tasting bar and
the tour is run by the winemaker him/herself (typically a retired
couple). If you stay in Sonoma though, one of my favorite wineries
is Chateau St Jean, and it's neither small nor unheard of.
2. Napa is busier and has, IMHO, more of the up-scale wineries - Opus
One, Joseph Phelps, Chateau Montelena, Coppola, etc. In these places,
you're as unlikely to see a cat as you are the winemaker though the
quality of the wines tend to be a bit higher (or at least more
consistent).
3. Napa also seemed to have more in the way of upscale restaurants.
Brix and Martini House come to mind as nice, albeit expensive, places
to eat. There was also some sort of chef training school around there
but we never went so I don't know if it would be any good.
4. Of course with busier comes more expensive and more hassle. We
stayed in a B&B on the northern end of things (Calistoga?) and got a
"deal" at only $150/night. There was really only one road up and down
the valley which was always busy and of course getting into a
restaurant other than A&W required reservations a day or two in advance.
5. One thing we did that was kind of fun was a balloon ride over
napa. Again it was expensive but neither of us had ever been a
balloon and Napa valley in the morning is quite beautiful. I'm not
sure I'd spring for it again - especially since you can just fly over
the valley - but I'd say it was worth doing once.
-Brian
#40497
N211BD
Iowa City, IA
On May 16, 2006, at 9:15 PM, Evan and Megan Johnson wrote:
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> I didn't read the whole string so forgive me if it has already been
> mentioned.....Napa is reputed to have a very good restaurant. I am
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> there this Saturday on a cross country and am looking forward to a
> good
> steak.
> Evan Johnson
> www.evansaviationproducts.com
> (530)247-0375
> (530)351-1776 cell
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> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
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> Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Trip to Central Ca.
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| Subject: | Rudderedge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Conti, Rick" <rick.conti@boeing.com>
No, and I used AKZO primer from Aircraft Spruce. No problem with
adhesion.
I also bought a 6' piece of steel 2" angle. I drilled holes the length
space the same as the rudder. After applying the ProSeal I cleoed the
rudder to the steel angle to ensure a true straight edge. Worked great.
Thank You
Rick Conti
office: 703 - 414 - 6141
blackberry: 571 - 215 - 6134
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wellenzohn [mailto:michael@wellenzohn.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 11:48 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Rudderedge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn"
<michael@wellenzohn.net>
Hello,
when you primed your rudder skins did you tape the edge so that the
ProSeal
would stick to the bare metal or not. (I use DuPont 820R Primer).
Best Regards
Michael
Michael Wellenzohn
#40511 (VS)
Zuerich,Switzerland
michael@wellenzohn.net
www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
I didn't ProSeal the rudder at all and I thought it came out fine - albeit
not perfectly straight. I am going to try the ProSeal on the elevators this
weekend and see if they come out any straighter. I'd primer the skins
without regard to the edges. It's my understanding that the ProSeal is just
there to temporarily hold things together and to ruin a few clecos ;-)
The one thing I'd say about riveting trailing edges is that I think it's a
lot easier to just grind down a flat set to match the angle and squeeze them
rather than back rivet. As always, your mileage may vary.
-Brian
#40497
N211BD
Iowa City, IA
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> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Wellenzohn
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:02 AM
> To: RV10-List@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal)
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn"
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> Hello,
>
> when you primed your rudder skins did you tape the edge so that the
> ProSeal
> would stick to the bare metal or just prime the edge too and apply the
> ProSeal on top of it?. (I use DuPont 820R Primer in case that matters).
>
> Best Regards
> Michael
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> Michael Wellenzohn
> #40511 (VS)
> Zuerich,Switzerland
> michael@wellenzohn.net
> www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
There is no need to proseal....all you are doing is adding weight!
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 4:54 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal)
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
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> I didn't ProSeal the rudder at all and I thought it came out fine - albeit
> not perfectly straight. I am going to try the ProSeal on the elevators
> this weekend and see if they come out any straighter. I'd primer the
> skins without regard to the edges. It's my understanding that the ProSeal
> is just there to temporarily hold things together and to ruin a few clecos
> ;-)
>
> The one thing I'd say about riveting trailing edges is that I think it's a
> lot easier to just grind down a flat set to match the angle and squeeze
> them rather than back rivet. As always, your mileage may vary.
>
>
> -Brian
>
> #40497
> N211BD
> Iowa City, IA
>
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>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
>> Wellenzohn
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:02 AM
>> To: RV10-List@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal)
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>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn"
>> --> <michael@wellenzohn.net>
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>> Hello,
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>> when you primed your rudder skins did you tape the edge so that the
>> ProSeal
>> would stick to the bare metal or just prime the edge too and apply the
>> ProSeal on top of it?. (I use DuPont 820R Primer in case that matters).
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Michael
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>> Michael Wellenzohn
>> #40511 (VS)
>> Zuerich,Switzerland
>> michael@wellenzohn.net
>> www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | New Trip to Central Ca. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jack Sargeant" <k5wiv@amsat.org>
One weekend several years ago doesn't make me an expert, but -- my wife
and I drove to Napa on a Saturday with the intent of doing a few wineries.
We dawdled too long in SF and Sausalito and arrived in Napa late afternoon,
so we found a motel (not very upscale, but they didn't question our lack of
luggage), went to a convenience store for toothbrushes, etc., had a fast
food supper and got a good night's sleep. Sunday morning. fairly early, we
drove north 'till about the time the wineries started opening. We then
worked our way back south stopping at whatever winery looked interesting.
We got back to Napa in the PM and stopped by an airport where they were
offering glider rides. The wife wasn't interested so I made a decision that
I have regretted ever since and didn't go either. We watched for a while
and then drove on to our temporary home in San Jose.
If that sounds like a mixed-up weekend with no coherent plan, it was.
But -- it was one of the best in our 43 years together. Botton line: In
my opinion if you get into the Napa Valley and just spend a day or more
doing whatever you feel like at the time, you can't go wrong!
y?J
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| Subject: | New Trip to Central Ca. |
What y'all need to do is get those REALLY BIG extended range tanks
installed and get over here to Australia. You can't beat our beefy reds
- or elegant whites if you've got limp wrists ;-)
Ron
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| Subject: | Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?vij1qWr99qLE
Or Rogue River or Umpqua or whatever.
Johnny Horizon
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| Subject: | New Trip to Central Ca. |
Ah yes, I need to get back to Barossa one of these days. Great wine,
nice scenery, crazy Aussies. Wish I would have taken that transfer to
Sydney but the exchange rate, salary adjustment is a killer. Or at
least it used to be. :-) Then again those Kiwi's and their top
Cabernet's with the screw tops may just beat the guys in Oz for
craziness. Hehe,
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: New Trip to Central Ca.
What y'all need to do is get those REALLY BIG extended range tanks
installed and get over here to Australia. You can't beat our beefy reds
- or elegant whites if you've got limp wrists ;-)
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande |
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder Edge (ProSeal on Primer or on bare metal) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Weeeeeellllllllll....maybe,
Proseal is really not needed...but the advantage is when you get ready to prep
that trailing edge for paint...the proseal...which takes paint and primer very
well fills the rotten ole nasty few thousand of an inch little gaps between the
avex wedge and the two skins. Your OK with leaving the AKZO and maybe the SW
epoxy primer, wipe off the others with Acetone. The proseal really does help
when trying to get a nice "finished" trailing edge. Mine primed great and you
can't tell the skins from the wedge....thta's a good enough reason for me to
endorse sealing the edges.
Rick S.
40185
Fuselage/finishing and all around good guy!!
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| Subject: | Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick
The music Rick - guess I should have used quotes. You need to listen to
the music (lyrics). The sounds of rivets must have caused you some
damage. It was the words. Or maybe Bush's speech on amnesty overcame
you.
The river vegetation and the low grey clouds should have made it obvious
it was in the Wet Pacific NW. Hence the
Rogue/Umpqua/Wilson/Trask/Lewis/Cowlitz/Suislaw reference. The terrain
was pure Windward flow off the Coast Range onto the Pacific. It was
just meant to be a pick me up. Golly.
Jonny "Quest" Horizon - stretching for a Friday
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande
Ain't no Rio Grande....member (him Don) of the Wise Guys Corvette club
outta Washington state, see the little husky on his hat? Hath he an
RV-4....great video..
Rick S.
40185
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