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1. 04:07 AM - TruTrak EFIS (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
2. 06:27 AM - Re: TruTrak EFIS (Andrew Barker)
3. 06:32 AM - Wing Back Riveting (greerdans@AOL.COM)
4. 07:20 AM - Re: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande (Rick)
5. 07:20 AM - Re: Wing Back Riveting ()
6. 07:21 AM - Re: Wing Back Riveting (Rick)
7. 07:23 AM - Re: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande (Rick)
8. 07:36 AM - Re: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande ()
9. 08:49 AM - Re: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande (JOHN STARN)
10. 09:00 AM - Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine (Jay Brinkmeyer)
11. 09:10 AM - Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
12. 09:48 AM - Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine (John Gonzalez)
13. 09:59 AM - Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
14. 10:06 AM - Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
15. 10:24 AM - Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
16. 10:32 AM - Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine (Gary Seaton)
17. 10:34 AM - Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine (Sam Marlow)
18. 10:37 AM - Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine (Dj Merrill)
19. 10:58 AM - Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine (RAS)
20. 11:13 AM - Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine (John Gonzalez)
21. 12:13 PM - Re: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande (linn Walters)
22. 05:34 PM - CHTs with electronic ignition (Dan Masys)
23. 05:52 PM - Re: CHTs with electronic ignition (Ralph E. Capen)
24. 07:11 PM - Airflow Performance Fuel Injection (rv10builder)
25. 08:14 PM - Re: CHTs with electronic ignition (John W. Cox)
26. 09:00 PM - Re: CHTs with electronic ignition (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
27. 09:19 PM - Re: Airflow Performance Fuel Injection (Dave Saylor)
28. 09:54 PM - Weight of Hartzell 2 bld? (Deems Davis)
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I picked this up at SWRFI and thought some of you would be interested.
As I understand it they will have it available at OSH.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
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Well, not exactly available at Oshkosh. We are going to have something to
show at Oshkosh. We are still quite a ways away from having something ready
to ship.
Andrew Barker
General Manager
TruTrak Flight Systems
"You build it...We fly it!"
PH:479-751-0250 Ext. 222
www.trutrakap.com
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 6:04 AM
Subject: RV10-List: TruTrak EFIS
I picked this up at SWRFI and thought some of you would be interested. As I
understand it they will have it available at OSH.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
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Subject: | Wing Back Riveting |
Just finishing up working on the wing ribs. Looking ahead to the skins I wanted
to ask if Back Riveting using the large handheld bucking bar had worked well
for those that have tried it. Also, do you recommend using the 12 inch straight
or double offset back rivet set.
Thanks,
George
40434 (Wings)
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Subject: | Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande |
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Subject: | Re: Wing Back Riveting |
George;
I just completed the wing skins, and I back riveted everything. It came
out great. I did use the large handheld bucking bar, and it was easy.
In many spots you will need the double offset back riveter. Just take
your time, have a good assistant, and it will work great.
Steve Mills
40486 Naperville, Illinois
finishing wings
----- Original Message -----
From: greerdans@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:31 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Wing Back Riveting
Just finishing up working on the wing ribs. Looking ahead to the skins
I wanted to ask if Back Riveting using the large handheld bucking bar
had worked well for those that have tried it. Also, do you recommend
using the 12 inch straight or double offset back rivet set.
Thanks,
George
40434 (Wings)
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Subject: | Re: Wing Back Riveting |
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Subject: | Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande |
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Subject: | Re: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande |
Link no good. sorry. Let me know if you want me to upload the file, it's
10 mb and I don't want to get the dialup folks upset.
Rick S.
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:18 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick
Yeah, trying this again...good song and great viseo..I'm suffering
from riveing withdrawl...only about 300 more to do!!! Check out this
video, it will explain my confusion!!
http://www.mtsu.edu/~jlm3x/
Rick S.
40185
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http://wiki.matronics.com
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Subject: | Re: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande |
Yes, tried three times to view it but No Joy. KABONG
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----- Original Message -----
From: ricksked@earthlink.net
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande
Link no good. sorry. Let me know if you want me to upload the file,
it's 10 mb and I don't want to get the dialup folks upset.
Rick S.
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:18 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick
Yeah, trying this again...good song and great viseo..I'm suffering
from riveing withdrawl...only about 300 more to do!!! Check out this
video, it will explain my confusion!!
http://www.mtsu.edu/~jlm3x/
Rick S.
Features Subscriptions http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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Subject: | Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
FYI
Monday, Thielert Aircraft Engines announced at the Berlin Air Show intent to
produce a new liquid-cooled turbocharged diesel-burning, FADEC-controlled
single-lever-power 230 bhp engine, the Centurion 3.2. The engine is targeted
for air-time in late 2007. Frank Thielert, CEO and founder of Thielert Aircraft
Engines GmbH, said his goal was to offer a complete piston engine product line
with, "New engines and engine integrations [that] will enable us in [the]
future to cover the entire spectrum of piston aircraft engine technology."
Those products -- the 150 bhp Centurion 1.7 (powering many Diamond DA42 Twin
Star aircraft and burning 5.6 gph in economy cruise), the coming 230 bhp
Centurion 3.2, and a 350 bhp Centurion 4.0 -- are supported by 111 service
centers currently spanning 97 countries. The addition of more service centers
is a company priority, as is Thielert's intent to make its 350 hp 4.0 available
for multiple Cessnas. The existing Centurion 4.0 350 bhp jet fuel powered
piston engine will be "integrated ... into further popular aircraft..." said
Thielert. Specifically, the company seeks to acquire STC's for service in
Cessna 206, 340, 414 and 421-series aircraft. See the full text of the
company's release here
http://info.thielert.com/centurion/main/news_start.php?newsid=343
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Subject: | Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
I should build more slowly . . .
This will mean I won't have to build my own gearbox to run two Centurion
1.7 engines driving counter-rotating propellers . . . : )
TDT
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay
Brinkmeyer
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
--> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer
<jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
FYI
Monday, Thielert Aircraft Engines announced at the Berlin Air Show
intent to
produce a new liquid-cooled turbocharged diesel-burning,
FADEC-controlled
single-lever-power 230 bhp engine, the Centurion 3.2. The engine is
targeted
for air-time in late 2007. Frank Thielert, CEO and founder of Thielert
Aircraft
Engines GmbH, said his goal was to offer a complete piston engine
product line
with, "New engines and engine integrations [that] will enable us in
[the]
future to cover the entire spectrum of piston aircraft engine
technology."
Those products -- the 150 bhp Centurion 1.7 (powering many Diamond DA42
Twin
Star aircraft and burning 5.6 gph in economy cruise), the coming 230 bhp
Centurion 3.2, and a 350 bhp Centurion 4.0 -- are supported by 111
service
centers currently spanning 97 countries. The addition of more service
centers
is a company priority, as is Thielert's intent to make its 350 hp 4.0
available
for multiple Cessnas. The existing Centurion 4.0 350 bhp jet fuel
powered
piston engine will be "integrated ... into further popular aircraft..."
said
Thielert. Specifically, the company seeks to acquire STC's for service
in
Cessna 206, 340, 414 and 421-series aircraft. See the full text of the
company's release here
http://info.thielert.com/centurion/main/news_start.php?newsid=343
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Subject: | Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Great News! The more options the better. Even more reason to slow down on
the building and fly more in between.
Do Not archive
Jg 409
>From: Jay Brinkmeyer <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
>Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:59:37 -0700 (PDT)
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
>
>FYI
>
>Monday, Thielert Aircraft Engines announced at the Berlin Air Show intent
>to
>produce a new liquid-cooled turbocharged diesel-burning, FADEC-controlled
>single-lever-power 230 bhp engine, the Centurion 3.2. The engine is
>targeted
>for air-time in late 2007. Frank Thielert, CEO and founder of Thielert
>Aircraft
>Engines GmbH, said his goal was to offer a complete piston engine product
>line
>with, "New engines and engine integrations [that] will enable us in [the]
>future to cover the entire spectrum of piston aircraft engine technology."
>Those products -- the 150 bhp Centurion 1.7 (powering many Diamond DA42
>Twin
>Star aircraft and burning 5.6 gph in economy cruise), the coming 230 bhp
>Centurion 3.2, and a 350 bhp Centurion 4.0 -- are supported by 111 service
>centers currently spanning 97 countries. The addition of more service
>centers
>is a company priority, as is Thielert's intent to make its 350 hp 4.0
>available
>for multiple Cessnas. The existing Centurion 4.0 350 bhp jet fuel powered
>piston engine will be "integrated ... into further popular aircraft..."
>said
>Thielert. Specifically, the company seeks to acquire STC's for service in
>Cessna 206, 340, 414 and 421-series aircraft. See the full text of the
>company's release here
>
>http://info.thielert.com/centurion/main/news_start.php?newsid=343
>
>__________________________________________________
>
>
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Subject: | Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Wieviel kostet die schoene deutsche Triebwerk?
TDT
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez"
<indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Great News! The more options the better. Even more reason to slow down
on
the building and fly more in between.
Do Not archive
Jg 409
>From: Jay Brinkmeyer <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
>Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:59:37 -0700 (PDT)
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer
<jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
>
>FYI
>
>Monday, Thielert Aircraft Engines announced at the Berlin Air Show
intent
>to
>produce a new liquid-cooled turbocharged diesel-burning,
FADEC-controlled
>single-lever-power 230 bhp engine, the Centurion 3.2. The engine is
>targeted
>for air-time in late 2007. Frank Thielert, CEO and founder of Thielert
>Aircraft
>Engines GmbH, said his goal was to offer a complete piston engine
product
>line
>with, "New engines and engine integrations [that] will enable us in
[the]
>future to cover the entire spectrum of piston aircraft engine
technology."
>Those products -- the 150 bhp Centurion 1.7 (powering many Diamond DA42
>Twin
>Star aircraft and burning 5.6 gph in economy cruise), the coming 230
bhp
>Centurion 3.2, and a 350 bhp Centurion 4.0 -- are supported by 111
service
>centers currently spanning 97 countries. The addition of more service
>centers
>is a company priority, as is Thielert's intent to make its 350 hp 4.0
>available
>for multiple Cessnas. The existing Centurion 4.0 350 bhp jet fuel
powered
>piston engine will be "integrated ... into further popular aircraft..."
>said
>Thielert. Specifically, the company seeks to acquire STC's for service
in
>Cessna 206, 340, 414 and 421-series aircraft. See the full text of the
>company's release here
>
>http://info.thielert.com/centurion/main/news_start.php?newsid=343
>
>__________________________________________________
>
>
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Subject: | Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine |
You would need to build a lot more slowly. Don't forget to apply the
alternative engine delivery formula of: promised year x 10 possible
year. :-)
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
Do Not Archive
Recent RV-10 Build Activity
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
--> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
I should build more slowly . . .
This will mean I won't have to build my own gearbox to run two Centurion
1.7 engines driving counter-rotating propellers . . . : )
TDT
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay
Brinkmeyer
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
--> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer
<jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
FYI
Monday, Thielert Aircraft Engines announced at the Berlin Air Show
intent to produce a new liquid-cooled turbocharged diesel-burning,
FADEC-controlled single-lever-power 230 bhp engine, the Centurion 3.2.
The engine is targeted for air-time in late 2007. Frank Thielert, CEO
and founder of Thielert Aircraft Engines GmbH, said his goal was to
offer a complete piston engine product line with, "New engines and
engine integrations [that] will enable us in [the] future to cover the
entire spectrum of piston aircraft engine technology."
Those products -- the 150 bhp Centurion 1.7 (powering many Diamond DA42
Twin Star aircraft and burning 5.6 gph in economy cruise), the coming
230 bhp Centurion 3.2, and a 350 bhp Centurion 4.0 -- are supported by
111 service centers currently spanning 97 countries. The addition of
more service centers is a company priority, as is Thielert's intent to
make its 350 hp 4.0 available for multiple Cessnas. The existing
Centurion 4.0 350 bhp jet fuel powered piston engine will be "integrated
... into further popular aircraft..."
said
Thielert. Specifically, the company seeks to acquire STC's for service
in Cessna 206, 340, 414 and 421-series aircraft. See the full text of
the company's release here
http://info.thielert.com/centurion/main/news_start.php?newsid343
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Subject: | Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine |
You would need to build a lot more slowly. Don't forget to apply the
alternative engine delivery formula of: promised year x 10 possible
year. :-)
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
Do Not Archive
Recent RV-10 Build Activity
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:10 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
--> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
I should build more slowly . . .
This will mean I won't have to build my own gearbox to run two Centurion
1.7 engines driving counter-rotating propellers . . . : )
TDT
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay
Brinkmeyer
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
--> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer
<jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
FYI
Monday, Thielert Aircraft Engines announced at the Berlin Air Show
intent to produce a new liquid-cooled turbocharged diesel-burning,
FADEC-controlled single-lever-power 230 bhp engine, the Centurion 3.2.
The engine is targeted for air-time in late 2007. Frank Thielert, CEO
and founder of Thielert Aircraft Engines GmbH, said his goal was to
offer a complete piston engine product line with, "New engines and
engine integrations [that] will enable us in [the] future to cover the
entire spectrum of piston aircraft engine technology."
Those products -- the 150 bhp Centurion 1.7 (powering many Diamond DA42
Twin Star aircraft and burning 5.6 gph in economy cruise), the coming
230 bhp Centurion 3.2, and a 350 bhp Centurion 4.0 -- are supported by
111 service centers currently spanning 97 countries. The addition of
more service centers is a company priority, as is Thielert's intent to
make its 350 hp 4.0 available for multiple Cessnas. The existing
Centurion 4.0 350 bhp jet fuel powered piston engine will be "integrated
... into further popular aircraft..."
said
Thielert. Specifically, the company seeks to acquire STC's for service
in Cessna 206, 340, 414 and 421-series aircraft. See the full text of
the company's release here
http://info.thielert.com/centurion/main/news_start.php?newsid343
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Subject: | Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Gary Seaton" <seatonconsulting@hotmail.com>
Will it be available to the experimental market?
Gary Seaton
Corrales, NM
>From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
>Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 12:57:47 -0400
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
><Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
>Wieviel kostet die schoene deutsche Triebwerk?
>
>TDT
>do not archive
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
>Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:47 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez"
><indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
>
>Great News! The more options the better. Even more reason to slow down
>on
>the building and fly more in between.
>
>Do Not archive
>
>Jg 409
>
>
> >From: Jay Brinkmeyer <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
> >Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:59:37 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >--> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer
><jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
> >
> >FYI
> >
> >Monday, Thielert Aircraft Engines announced at the Berlin Air Show
>intent
> >to
> >produce a new liquid-cooled turbocharged diesel-burning,
>FADEC-controlled
> >single-lever-power 230 bhp engine, the Centurion 3.2. The engine is
> >targeted
> >for air-time in late 2007. Frank Thielert, CEO and founder of Thielert
> >Aircraft
> >Engines GmbH, said his goal was to offer a complete piston engine
>product
> >line
> >with, "New engines and engine integrations [that] will enable us in
>[the]
> >future to cover the entire spectrum of piston aircraft engine
>technology."
> >Those products -- the 150 bhp Centurion 1.7 (powering many Diamond DA42
>
> >Twin
> >Star aircraft and burning 5.6 gph in economy cruise), the coming 230
>bhp
> >Centurion 3.2, and a 350 bhp Centurion 4.0 -- are supported by 111
>service
> >centers currently spanning 97 countries. The addition of more service
> >centers
> >is a company priority, as is Thielert's intent to make its 350 hp 4.0
> >available
> >for multiple Cessnas. The existing Centurion 4.0 350 bhp jet fuel
>powered
> >piston engine will be "integrated ... into further popular aircraft..."
>
> >said
> >Thielert. Specifically, the company seeks to acquire STC's for service
>in
> >Cessna 206, 340, 414 and 421-series aircraft. See the full text of the
> >company's release here
> >
> >http://info.thielert.com/centurion/main/news_start.php?newsid=343
> >
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> >
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Subject: | Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine |
We've heard all this before, just build the airplane! IMHO of course.....
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> You would need to build a lot more slowly. Don't forget to apply the
> alternative engine delivery formula of: promised year x 10 possible
> year. :-)
>
>
> Michael Sausen
> RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage
> Do Not Archive
> Recent RV-10 Build Activity
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Dawson-Townsend
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:10 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
> --> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> I should build more slowly . . .
>
> This will mean I won't have to build my own gearbox to run two Centurion
> 1.7 engines driving counter-rotating propellers . . . : )
>
> TDT
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay Brinkmeyer
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:00 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer
> <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
>
> FYI
>
> Monday, Thielert Aircraft Engines announced at the Berlin Air Show
> intent to produce a new liquid-cooled turbocharged diesel-burning,
> FADEC-controlled single-lever-power 230 bhp engine, the Centurion 3.2.
> The engine is targeted for air-time in late 2007. Frank Thielert, CEO
> and founder of Thielert Aircraft Engines GmbH, said his goal was to
> offer a complete piston engine product line with, "New engines and
> engine integrations [that] will enable us in [the] future to cover the
> entire spectrum of piston aircraft engine technology."
> Those products -- the 150 bhp Centurion 1.7 (powering many Diamond
> DA42 Twin Star aircraft and burning 5.6 gph in economy cruise), the
> coming 230 bhp Centurion 3.2, and a 350 bhp Centurion 4.0 -- are
> supported by 111 service centers currently spanning 97 countries. The
> addition of more service centers is a company priority, as is
> Thielert's intent to make its 350 hp 4.0 available for multiple
> Cessnas. The existing Centurion 4.0 350 bhp jet fuel powered piston
> engine will be "integrated ... into further popular aircraft..."
> said
> Thielert. Specifically, the company seeks to acquire STC's for service
> in Cessna 206, 340, 414 and 421-series aircraft. See the full text of
> the company's release here
>
> http://info.thielert.com/centurion/main/news_start.php?newsid343
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>
> You would need to build a lot more slowly. Don't forget to apply the
> alternative engine delivery formula of: promised year x 10 possible
> year. :-)
>
I think that matches well with my expected finish time versus
reality... *wink*
-Dj
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Subject: | Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "RAS" <deruiteraircraftservices@btinternet.com>
hi all,
If prices are similar as for the 1.7 I would say keep building, stick a
Lycosaur on the front and sell it as quick as possible to finance your new
thielert engine!
You then have only two problems remaining :
Find the finances for another RV10 kit and 2 building the thing with a big
ugly squared off front area in the cowling.......
I recall reading somewhere that current conversion cost are somewhere around
60,000 euro's for the full 1.7 kit for either C172 or PA 28. You'll have to
fly an awful lot to get the initial price back through saving in fuel.
An article in one of the magazines here recently quoted a headline flying
from the UK to France for around 7 or 8 or something .
MJR
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Subject: | Re: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Amen!
Do not archive
>From: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Thielert's New 230 hp Diesel Aircraft Engine
>Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:37:17 -0400
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
>
>RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>>
>> You would need to build a lot more slowly. Don't forget to apply the
>>alternative engine delivery formula of: promised year x 10 possible year.
>>:-)
>>
>
> I think that matches well with my expected finish time versus
>reality... *wink*
>
>-Dj
>
>do not archive
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>
>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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Subject: | Re: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande |
Hey Rick ..... send it to me.
How's the hangar project coming???
Linn
ricksked@earthlink.net wrote:
> Link no good. sorry. Let me know if you want me to upload the file,
> it's 10 mb and I don't want to get the dialup folks upset.
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:18 AM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tree top flyer over the Rio Grande
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick
> Yeah, trying this again...good song and great viseo..I'm suffering
> from riveing withdrawl...only about 300 more to do!!! Check out
> this video, it will explain my confusion!!
>
>
> http://www.mtsu.edu/~jlm3x/
>
>
> Rick S.
> Features Subscriptions http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>
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Subject: | CHTs with electronic ignition |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
Putting an electronic ignition in seems almost like a no brainer with fuel prices
over $5/gal, but one of the potential downsides is higher CHTs (presumably
due to more complete combustion). Could those who have flying -10s say whether
they are limited in climb out by CHTs hitting high values (and whether they
have electronic ignitions)? Am sort of spoiled by my -7A climbing at 2500 fpm
with CHTs never higher than about 400, even on 'high, hot' kind of days.
Thanks,
-Dan Masys
Making engine decision...
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Subject: | Re: CHTs with electronic ignition |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
My LASAR on my O360 has a CHT sensor and drops the advance back
automatically.
Ralph
RV6AQB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Masys" <dmasys@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: CHTs with electronic ignition
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
>
> Putting an electronic ignition in seems almost like a no brainer with fuel
> prices over $5/gal, but one of the potential downsides is higher CHTs
> (presumably due to more complete combustion). Could those who have
> flying -10s say whether they are limited in climb out by CHTs hitting
> high values (and whether they have electronic ignitions)? Am sort of
> spoiled by my -7A climbing at 2500 fpm with CHTs never higher than about
> 400, even on 'high, hot' kind of days.
>
> Thanks,
> -Dan Masys
> Making engine decision...
>
>
>
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Subject: | Airflow Performance Fuel Injection |
--> RV10-List message posted by: rv10builder <rv10builder@bellsouth.net>
I was just looking over my new Airflow Performance fuel injection system
and noticed the purge valve with a return fitting. How does anyone
using this system plan on connecting it up?
Brian
#40308
http://www.mykitlog.com/rv10builder
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Subject: | CHTs with electronic ignition |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Dan this is an excellent topic and should be followed with widespread
interest. The advantages and the disadvantages should be posted. It is
important for any poster to note whether running two mags, one mag / one
electronic or complete electronic dependence. Those with the BPA
package and the close test results from GAMI should provide an eye
opener.
It will not be a complete discussion until everyone knows the advantages
and risks of LOP and ROP first.
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Masys
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: CHTs with electronic ignition
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
Putting an electronic ignition in seems almost like a no brainer with
fuel prices over $5/gal, but one of the potential downsides is higher
CHTs (presumably due to more complete combustion). Could those who have
flying -10s say whether they are limited in climb out by CHTs hitting
high values (and whether they have electronic ignitions)? Am sort of
spoiled by my -7A climbing at 2500 fpm with CHTs never higher than about
400, even on 'high, hot' kind of days.
Thanks,
-Dan Masys
Making engine decision...
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Subject: | CHTs with electronic ignition |
Sounds like a great discussion for an "Engines" email list or Vans Air
Force forum thread . . .
TDT
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of John W. Cox
Sent: Thu 5/18/2006 11:10 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: CHTs with electronic ignition
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Dan this is an excellent topic and should be followed with widespread
interest. The advantages and the disadvantages should be posted. It is
important for any poster to note whether running two mags, one mag / one
electronic or complete electronic dependence. Those with the BPA
package and the close test results from GAMI should provide an eye
opener.
It will not be a complete discussion until everyone knows the advantages
and risks of LOP and ROP first.
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Masys
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: CHTs with electronic ignition
--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys <dmasys@cox.net>
Putting an electronic ignition in seems almost like a no brainer with
fuel prices over $5/gal, but one of the potential downsides is higher
CHTs (presumably due to more complete combustion). Could those who have
flying -10s say whether they are limited in climb out by CHTs hitting
high values (and whether they have electronic ignitions)? Am sort of
spoiled by my -7A climbing at 2500 fpm with CHTs never higher than about
400, even on 'high, hot' kind of days.
Thanks,
-Dan Masys
Making engine decision...
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Subject: | Airflow Performance Fuel Injection |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@aircraftersllc.com>
Brian,
One thing to consider with the purge valve:
We worked on a plane that had the valve oriented so the shaft pointed up.
We had replaced the engine isolators among other work and I suspect rasied
the engine a tiny bit. We ran it without the cowl for a while, and it ran
fine. When we put the cowl on (I know, we should have checked), the top
cowl barely contacted the purge valve shaft, pressing it down into its
housing. That kept the engine from starting since the shaft displacement
created an extreme over-rich condition. Cowl on, no start. Cowl off, ran
great. That took a while to figure out...make sure the shaft is well clear!
That installation ran the purged fuel back to a header tank (ideally...).
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
831-722-9141
40394 QB, wings done, baggage floors in
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10builder
Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:09 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Airflow Performance Fuel Injection
--> RV10-List message posted by: rv10builder <rv10builder@bellsouth.net>
I was just looking over my new Airflow Performance fuel injection system and
noticed the purge valve with a return fitting. How does anyone using this
system plan on connecting it up?
Brian
#40308
http://www.mykitlog.com/rv10builder
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Subject: | Weight of Hartzell 2 bld? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Does anyone know the weight of the 2 blade Hartzell (Blended Airfoil)?
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
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