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1. 05:55 AM - VS completed! (Michael Wellenzohn)
2. 06:25 AM - Re: VS completed! (Larry Rosen)
3. 07:26 AM - Re: VS completed! (Marc and Kathy)
4. 08:17 AM - Re: VS completed! (jdalton77)
5. 08:18 AM - Re: VS completed! (jdalton77)
6. 12:13 PM - Re: UP COMING RV FLY IN (Fixitauto@aol.com)
7. 01:06 PM - Big Week. (JSMcGrew@AOL.COM)
8. 01:38 PM - Heater boxes (rv10builder)
9. 02:08 PM - AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS (Sam Marlow)
10. 02:59 PM - Re: AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS (Tim Olson)
11. 04:41 PM - Engine limts (Rob Kermanj)
12. 05:00 PM - cabin cover hints (David McNeill)
13. 05:02 PM - cost of engine/prop (linn Walters)
14. 06:45 PM - Re: Engine limts (Robert G. Wright)
15. 07:27 PM - Re: AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS (Richard Sipp)
16. 07:57 PM - Fastener Concern (greerdans@aol.com)
17. 08:16 PM - Re: AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS (Tim Olson)
18. 08:49 PM - Re: cabin cover hints (Steven DiNieri)
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Wellenzohn <michael@wellenzohn.net>
I achieved to complete my first part the VS :-)
However I have one little issue along the middle rib I have some rough
marks on the skin now. I belief they are from the rough edge of the
bucking bar (I grinded them now to have smooth edges).
Here is the picture
http://www.wellenzohn.net/VerticalStabilizer/_vs_16.jpg you see the
marks below the rivets.
Best Regards
Michael Wellenzohn
#511 (VS)
www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | Re: VS completed! |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
I would think that a when you go to final finish the VS a scotch bright
pad would clean up those rough marks on the skin just fine.
Larry Rosen
http://lrosen.nerv10.com
Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Wellenzohn
> <michael@wellenzohn.net>
>
> I achieved to complete my first part the VS :-)
> However I have one little issue along the middle rib I have some rough
> marks on the skin now. I belief they are from the rough edge of the
> bucking bar (I grinded them now to have smooth edges).
>
> Here is the picture
> http://www.wellenzohn.net/VerticalStabilizer/_vs_16.jpg you see the
> marks below the rivets.
>
> Best Regards
> Michael Wellenzohn
> #511 (VS)
> www.wellenzohn.net
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Marc and Kathy" <marchudson@comcast.net>
Mike
>From the picture that you sent, the marks are on the manufactured side of
the rivet. Were you using the bucking bar on that side? If not, I'm not
sure how the bucking bar could be causing this issue. One of the things
that I use to protect the skins on the outside is to put rivet tape on
every rivet that I shoot. I know this isn't necessary but it does help
protect the skin a little.
Marc
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 6:52 AM
Subject: RV10-List: VS completed!
--> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Wellenzohn <michael@wellenzohn.net>
I achieved to complete my first part the VS :-)
However I have one little issue along the middle rib I have some rough
marks on the skin now. I belief they are from the rough edge of the
bucking bar (I grinded them now to have smooth edges).
Here is the picture
http://www.wellenzohn.net/VerticalStabilizer/_vs_16.jpg you see the
marks below the rivets.
Best Regards
Michael Wellenzohn
#511 (VS)
www.wellenzohn.net
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| Subject: | Re: VS completed! |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
Congrats! I finished mine last month and it felt great. I'm now finishing
off the trim tabs.
If scotchbrite pad on an orbital sander won't work I sometimes (lightly)
sand the skin with 180 grit sandpaper to remove any small imperfections.
Then use the scotchbrite pad by hand and prime. be very careful not to
remove to much though.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <michael@wellenzohn.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 8:51 AM
Subject: RV10-List: VS completed!
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Wellenzohn
> <michael@wellenzohn.net>
>
> I achieved to complete my first part the VS :-)
> However I have one little issue along the middle rib I have some rough
> marks on the skin now. I belief they are from the rough edge of the
> bucking bar (I grinded them now to have smooth edges).
>
> Here is the picture
> http://www.wellenzohn.net/VerticalStabilizer/_vs_16.jpg you see the marks
> below the rivets.
>
> Best Regards
> Michael Wellenzohn
> #511 (VS)
> www.wellenzohn.net
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VS completed! |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
I put a line of tape over all the rivets that I shoot with a mushroom heard
from the outside. It almost always comes out without scratches. Be careful
not to miss the rivet due to the tape - big dents! I know this to be true .
. . :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc and Kathy" <marchudson@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: VS completed!
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marc and Kathy" <marchudson@comcast.net>
>
> Mike
>
>>From the picture that you sent, the marks are on the manufactured side of
> the rivet. Were you using the bucking bar on that side? If not, I'm not
> sure how the bucking bar could be causing this issue. One of the things
> that I use to protect the skins on the outside is to put rivet tape on
> every rivet that I shoot. I know this isn't necessary but it does help
> protect the skin a little.
>
> Marc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Wellenzohn
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 6:52 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: VS completed!
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Wellenzohn
> <michael@wellenzohn.net>
>
> I achieved to complete my first part the VS :-)
> However I have one little issue along the middle rib I have some rough
> marks on the skin now. I belief they are from the rough edge of the
> bucking bar (I grinded them now to have smooth edges).
>
> Here is the picture
> http://www.wellenzohn.net/VerticalStabilizer/_vs_16.jpg you see the
> marks below the rivets.
>
> Best Regards
> Michael Wellenzohn
> #511 (VS)
> www.wellenzohn.net
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: UP COMING RV FLY IN |
THE BOONE IOWA ANNUAL RV FLY IN IS COMING UP NEXT MONTH.
LOTS OF PLANES, GREAT PEOPLE AND JUST PLANE FUN.
SATURDAY JUNE 17 2006
HERS A LINK FOR MOR INFORMATION
_http://www.wcaircraft.com/boonervday.html_
(http://www.wcaircraft.com/boonervday.html)
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This week was something of a big transition for me. I had my last ever
flight in an F-15 on Thursday (pictured below after being hosed down). And today
I
moved my RV-10 from my garage out to the hangar. I've been worrying about
how I was going to transport it as most trailers are only 6 feet wide. You can
see I used a 4x8 sheet of 5/8 inch plywood strengthened by some 2x8 and 2x4
boards underneath to extend the trailer width out to 8' - perfect for the gear.
It was easy to load and unload and traveled great.
My last day of work for the Air Force is at the end of this week, so I'm a
full time airplane builder until I get my plane in the air - hopefully before
I have to go back to school next fall! I'm extra motivated now since I don't
get to fly at work anymore...
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
40134
Doors and FW forward
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--> RV10-List message posted by: rv10builder <rv10builder@bellsouth.net>
O.K....I am totally pulling my hair out here; any help would be greatly
appreciated.
I cannot seem to find anywhere in the plans or hardware list the pieces
needed to connect up cabin heat selector boxes, specifically the screws,
nuts, cushion clamps and most importantly the flapper "tabs" that
terminate the cables. Thanks!
Brian
40308
http://www.mykitlog.com/rv10builder
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| Subject: | AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
Where do we get the range markings for the airspeed indicator? Did most
of you mark your own instruments?
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| Subject: | Re: AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Depends on what you get for instruments. You can actually
order UMA instruments like the airspeed indicator, all premarked
for the RV-10. On an EFIS you'd input them yourself.
Tim
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
>
> Where do we get the range markings for the airspeed indicator? Did most
> of you mark your own instruments?
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com>
I wonder if someone could send me the engine operating limits (RPM,
Oil Press, Temp, etc.) for for an IO540 A4D5? Thanks.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | cabin cover hints |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Although we modified out lid a few months ago for the shoulder harnesses, we
recently began trimming it to fit the fuselage. In our first attempt we used
a compressor and cutoff wheel that supplied only 6 CFM @90 PSI. This was
insufficient and resulted in cutting a distance of about 72" in about 90
mins. This morning we used a larger compressor and completed the cut to trim
lines for doors, windows, mid side flanges, rear flanges, windscreen flanges
and under door flanges. The areas were then sanded with a sanding wheel and
belt sander. This mornings work was done in two hours using a few sanding
disks and three cutoff wheels.
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| Subject: | cost of engine/prop |
Those of you that have an IO 540 and three blade constant speed prop
(not an experimental one), how much did you have to ante up for them???
Linn
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
Before I go digging, want to make sure you want the A4D5, not the
recommended D4A5.
Rob Wright
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 6:37 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Engine limts
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com>
I wonder if someone could send me the engine operating limits (RPM,
Oil Press, Temp, etc.) for for an IO540 A4D5? Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
They are listed at the top of page 22 of the Final Inspection and Flight
Test Chapter.
In MPH:
Bottom of white arc.......60 indicated stall with full flaps
Top of white arc............100 max speed with full flaps
Bottom of green arc......70 approx indicated stall without flaps
Top of green arc...........180 max structural cruise speed
Blue line.........................144 maneuvering speed
Yellow arc......................180-230 caution range calm or light
turbulence only
Red line.........................230 maximum permissible speed under any
condition
There's lots of other critical stuff in this chapter. I can't recall for
sure what part of the kit this section came with.
Dick Sipp
40065
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Marlow" <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 5:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow <sam.marlow@adelphia.net>
>
> Where do we get the range markings for the airspeed indicator? Did most of
> you mark your own instruments?
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fastener Concern |
While working on the wings I noticed that that the Aileron Bellcrank Attach Brackets
are attached using only two bolts each into platenuts, without any other
locking feature. Considering the importance of the Brackets in the Aileron Linkage
I'm surprised that they are not riveted or secured with some additional
locking feature. Since I'm really just getting into the critical contol linkages
and I'm not sure if this is a common design approach that Van's uses throughout
the kit or if is it used in aircraft in general?. I wanted to find out if
others have other considered this as a potental problem area and have you done
anything to improve the design? (loctite, jam nut, etc.)
For those with more experience building/inspecting aircraft have you ever found
that bolts installed in platenuts, properly torqued, have loosened or vibrated
out?
Thanks,
George Costigan
40434 Wings
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| Subject: | Re: AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
And remember that these are in MPH, so if you're using strictly
KTS like I am, you'll need to do the math and convert these:
1 mph = .8689755962687 kts an hour
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Richard Sipp wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
>
> They are listed at the top of page 22 of the Final Inspection and Flight
> Test Chapter.
>
> In MPH:
>
> Bottom of white arc.......60 indicated stall with full flaps
> Top of white arc............100 max speed with full flaps
> Bottom of green arc......70 approx indicated stall without flaps
> Top of green arc...........180 max structural cruise speed
> Blue line.........................144 maneuvering speed
> Yellow arc......................180-230 caution range calm or light
> turbulence only
> Red line.........................230 maximum permissible speed under any
> condition
>
> There's lots of other critical stuff in this chapter. I can't recall
> for sure what part of the kit this section came with.
>
> Dick Sipp
> 40065
>
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| Subject: | cabin cover hints |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@adelphia.net>
I threw away the friction disk after about two minutes, I found much better
success with a body air saw. Very precise cutting and 24 tooth blade didnt
bind.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4640677249
19.00 from harbor freight. The blades last about 4feet or so, so get extras.
The other benefit is it doesnt toss fiberdust all over the shop.
My .02
steve
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
Although we modified out lid a few months ago for the shoulder harnesses, we
recently began trimming it to fit the fuselage. In our first attempt we used
a compressor and cutoff wheel that supplied only 6 CFM @90 PSI. This was
insufficient and resulted in cutting a distance of about 72" in about 90
mins. This morning we used a larger compressor and completed the cut to trim
lines for doors, windows, mid side flanges, rear flanges, windscreen flanges
and under door flanges. The areas were then sanded with a sanding wheel and
belt sander. This mornings work was done in two hours using a few sanding
disks and three cutoff wheels.
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