---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/22/06: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:41 AM - Re: Engine limts (Rob Kermanj) 2. 04:22 AM - Re: AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS (Sam Marlow) 3. 04:22 AM - Re: AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS (Sam Marlow) 4. 05:28 AM - Re: Fastener Concern (steveadams) 5. 09:32 AM - Re: VS completed! (John Jessen) 6. 09:32 AM - Re: Big Week. (John Jessen) 7. 10:22 AM - Re: Big Week. (Jeff Carpenter) 8. 11:05 AM - N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. (Doerr, Ray R [NTK]) 9. 11:18 AM - Re: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. (GRANSCOTT@aol.com) 10. 11:50 AM - Re: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. (John Jessen) 11. 12:10 PM - Re: What fuel pressure should I see for electric or engine fuel pump on IO-540 engine. (Doerr, Ray R [NTK]) 12. 12:17 PM - Matronics BBS Forums (Matt Dralle) 13. 12:34 PM - Re: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. (Tim Olson) 14. 12:39 PM - Test to see if my replies are being stripped (John Jessen) 15. 02:12 PM - Re: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. (Rob Kermanj) 16. 03:42 PM - Height of fuselage bottom from floor (John Gonzalez) 17. 04:05 PM - Re: Height of fuselage bottom from floor (David McNeill) 18. 04:44 PM - Re: Height of fuselage bottom from floor (Tim Olson) 19. 04:44 PM - Re: Height of fuselage bottom from floor (Mike Kraus) 20. 05:02 PM - Re: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. (brian bollaert) 21. 05:23 PM - Re: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. (John Jessen) 22. 06:16 PM - Re: Height of fuselage bottom from floor (Larry Rosen) 23. 06:59 PM - Re: UP COMING RV FLY IN (bcondrey) 24. 08:59 PM - Re: Height of fuselage bottom from floor (Deems Davis) 25. 09:15 PM - Re: Engine limts (Robert G. Wright) 26. 11:43 PM - Re: Fastener Concern (Chris , Susie Darcy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:13 AM PST US From: "Rob Kermanj" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine limts --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" Good catch Robert! I want the recommended D4A5 data. I really appreciate it. Do not archive. On 5/21/06, Robert G. Wright wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" > > Before I go digging, want to make sure you want the A4D5, not the > recommended D4A5. > > Rob Wright > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 6:37 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Engine limts > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" > > I wonder if someone could send me the engine operating limits (RPM, > Oil Press, Temp, etc.) for for an IO540 A4D5? Thanks. > > Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:41 AM PST US From: Sam Marlow Subject: Re: RV10-List: AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS Thanks! do not archive Richard Sipp wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" > > They are listed at the top of page 22 of the Final Inspection and > Flight Test Chapter. > > In MPH: > > Bottom of white arc.......60 indicated stall with full flaps > Top of white arc............100 max speed with full flaps > Bottom of green arc......70 approx indicated stall without flaps > Top of green arc...........180 max structural cruise speed > Blue line.........................144 maneuvering speed > Yellow arc......................180-230 caution range calm or light > turbulence only > Red line.........................230 maximum permissible speed under > any condition > > There's lots of other critical stuff in this chapter. I can't recall > for sure what part of the kit this section came with. > > Dick Sipp > 40065 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam Marlow" > To: > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 5:06 PM > Subject: RV10-List: AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS > > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow >> >> Where do we get the range markings for the airspeed indicator? Did >> most of you mark your own instruments? >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >> http://wiki.matronics.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:41 AM PST US From: Sam Marlow Subject: Re: RV10-List: AIRSPEED INDICATOR MARKINGS Thanks! do not archive Tim Olson wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Olson" > >Depends on what you get for instruments. You can actually >order UMA instruments like the airspeed indicator, all premarked >for the RV-10. On an EFIS you'd input them yourself. >Tim > > > >>--> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow >> >>Where do we get the range markings for the airspeed indicator? Did most >>of you mark your own instruments? >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:58 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Fastener Concern From: "steveadams" --> RV10-List message posted by: "steveadams" If you are worried about it, either drill the heads or put in bolts with drilled heads and safety wire the bolts. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=35743#35743 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:46 AM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RE: RV10-List: VS completed! --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" I am not quite sure how you did that, unless you are using the bucking bar on the wrong side. Use the rivet set that is in the rivet gun on the side where the manufactured rivet head is, and use the bucking bar on the side where you are making the shop head. When you use a bucking bar or steel plate on the manufactured head, you are back riveting, which on the VS might be difficult to do, actually! Let me know if this does not make sense to you. Know matter what, those marks are not bad. You ought to see the dents, some would call them deep craters, in my VS. John Jessen ~328 do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Wellenzohn Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 5:52 AM Subject: RV10-List: VS completed! --> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Wellenzohn --> I achieved to complete my first part the VS :-) However I have one little issue along the middle rib I have some rough marks on the skin now. I belief they are from the rough edge of the bucking bar (I grinded them now to have smooth edges). Here is the picture http://www.wellenzohn.net/VerticalStabilizer/_vs_16.jpg you see the marks below the rivets. Best Regards Michael Wellenzohn #511 (VS) www.wellenzohn.net ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:46 AM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Big Week. Congratulations! Looks great. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JSMcGrew@aol.com Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 1:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: Big Week. This week was something of a big transition for me. I had my last ever flight in an F-15 on Thursday (pictured below after being hosed do wn). And today I moved my RV-10 from my garage out to the hangar. I've been worry ing about how I was going to transport it as most trailers are only 6 feet wide. You can see I used a 4x8 sheet of 5/8 inch plywood strengthened by some 2x8 and 2x4 boards underneath to extend the trailer width out to 8' - perfect for the ge ar. It was easy to load and unload and traveled great. My last day of work for the Air Force is at the end of this week, so I' m a full time airplane builder until I get my plane in the air - hopef ully before I have to go back to school next fall! I'm extra motivated now since I don't get to fly at work anymore... Jim "Scooter" McGrew 40134 Doors and FW forward ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:57 AM PST US From: Jeff Carpenter Subject: Re: RV10-List: Big Week. For years, the RV-6 has been called the poor mans' F-16. I imagine that for most of us (certainly for me) the RV-10 is a big step up. For you, I guess it will have to do. Congratulations on the end of one career and the beginning of another. Jeff Carpenter 40304 N410CF Fuel Tanks On May 21, 2006, at 1:02 PM, JSMcGrew@aol.com wrote: > This week was something of a big transition for me. I had my last > ever flight in an F-15 on Thursday (pictured below after being > hosed do wn). And today I moved my RV-10 from my garage out to the > hangar. I've been worry ing about how I was going to transport it > as most trailers are only 6 feet wide. You can see I used a 4x8 > sheet of 5/8 inch plywood strengthened by some 2x8 and 2x4 boards > underneath to extend the trailer width out to 8' - perfect for the > ge ar. It was easy to load and unload and traveled great. > > My last day of work for the Air Force is at the end of this week, > so I' m a full time airplane builder until I get my plane in the > air - hopef ully before I have to go back to school next fall! I'm > extra motivated now since I don't get to fly at work anymore... > > Jim "Scooter" McGrew > 40134 > Doors and FW forward > <133-3370_IMG.JPG> > <133-3400_IMG.JPG> > <134-3420_IMG.JPG> ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:21 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today from Chuck Morris (DAR). I have a IO-540-D4A5 that was rebuilt by America's Aircraft Engines with the Silver Hawk EX fuel injection. My engine data plate was replace with one from America's Aircraft Engine which says Experimental IV, but I still manage to get a 25 hour fly off with the Hartzell blended airfoil prop. The only thing the DAR found was that when the rudder cables are left slack, they tend to rest on the top surface of the 2nd last bulkhead ( the one in which the cables run in the center of), so he suggested that I put a split hose over the top of the bulkhead so when the cables won't rub against the bulkhead. First flight is schedule for Friday May 26th at K34 around 04:00pm. Thank You Ray Doerr ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:28 AM PST US From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. Great news, Ray, enjoy your first flight!!! You earned it. Finishing must be in the air...my buddy John got his pink slip Sunday morning...Whitman Tail Wind...building a plane from drawing! Ray all the best, Patrick Do Not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:50:50 AM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RE: RV10-List: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. Mr. Doerr! Absolutely enjoy! John Jessen ~328 (a few years behind you) do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R [NTK] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:03 AM Subject: RV10-List: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today from Chuck Morris (DAR). I have a IO-540-D4A5 that was rebuilt by America's Aircraft Engines with the Silver Hawk EX fuel injection. My engine data plate was replace with one from America's Aircraft Engine which says Experimental IV, but I still manage to get a 25 hour fly off with the Hartzell blended airfoil prop. The only thing the DAR found was that when the rudder cables are left slack, they tend to rest on the top surface of the 2nd last bulkhead ( the one in which the cables run in the center of), so he suggested that I put a split hose over the top of the bulkhead so when the cables won't rub against the bulkhead. First flight is schedule for Friday May 26th at K34 around 04:00pm. Thank You Ray Doerr ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:10:41 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: What fuel pressure should I see for electric or engine fuel pump on IO-540 engine. From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" The real problem for the low fuel pressure was the Dynon Sensor Type was set to 1 (Carb Version) instead of 2 (Injected Version). Once I changed this to 2, it is now reading 17.5 PSI at idle. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sipp Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:22 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: What fuel pressure should I see for electric or engine fuel pump on IO-540 engine. --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" The Ops Manual I have lists: inlet to fuel pump min -2 max 35 inlet to fuel injector min 14 max 45 min at idle 12 I think you should see something like 25 psi or so in normal operation. AirFlow Perfomance recommends a boost pump setting a few psi higher than the engine pump pressure to verify its operation on the fuel pressure gauge. It sounds like you may have a gauge or pressure sensor for a carbureted engine. Dick Sipp 40065 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:09 PM Subject: RV10-List: What fuel pressure should I see for electric or engine fuel pump on IO-540 engine. > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" > > > What fuel pressure should I see for the electric and/or the > engine fuel pump. The Lycoming operators manual talks abour 40 being > the max, but when I run the electric pump I get 6 and when the engine is > running at idle, it is also around 6 with the electric one off. Does > this sound normal for an Injected IO-540? > > > Thank You > Ray Doerr > 40250 (First engine run went great) > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:17:12 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV10-List: Matronics BBS Forums --> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Hello Listers, I just wanted to send out a reminder to all of the Listers regarding the new-ish BBS (Bulletin Board System) Forums that are available at Matronics for the Email Lists. The BBS Forums give you Web-based access into the same email content that is generated by the Email Lists. When an email message is posted to any of the email lists, a copy of the message is also copied to the respective List forum section on in the BBS Forums. By the same token, when a message is posted within the BBS Forum interface context, it will also be posted to the respective email list. Basically, the BBS Forums give you yet another method of accessing the Matronics Email List content. Some people prefer email, some prefer web forums; now you can have it either way or both with the Matronics Lists! You'll have to register for a login/password on the BBS Forum to _post_ from the BBS, but you can view message content without registering for an account. To Register for an account, look for the link at the top of the main BBS Forum page entitled "Register". Click on it and follow the instructions. Site Administrator approval will be required (to keep spammers out), but I will try to get these approved in less than 24 hours. If you haven't yet taken a look at the Matronics Email List content over on the BBS Forum, surf on over and take a peek. Its pretty cool. The URL is: http://forums.matronics.com I want to stress that the BBS Forums are simply an adjunct to the existing Matronics Email Lists; another way of viewing and interacting with the Matronics List content. If you like Email, great. If you like Web Forums, great. If you like both, great. Its up to you how you view and create your content. You will also find a URL link at the bottom of this email called Matronics List Features Navigator. You can click on this link at any time to find URL links to all of the other great features available on the Matronics site like the Archive Search Engine, List Browse, List Download, FAQs, Wiki, and lots more. There is a specific Navigator for each Email List and the link for this specific List is shown below. Thanks for all the great list participation and support; it is greatly appreciated! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:34:40 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson That's awesome news! We should keep a list of design-related squaks that the various inspectors come up with. That way future builders can possibly take the precautions sooner and not only have easier inspections, but safer planes. Glad you also got the 25 hour flyoff. I'm at about 70 hours now with no real issues. Good luck on the first flight! Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote: > N519RV (40250) just received its airworthiness today from > Chuck Morris (DAR). I have a IO-540-D4A5 that was rebuilt by Americas > Aircraft Engines with the Silver Hawk EX fuel injection. My engine data > plate was replace with one from Americas Aircraft Engine which says > Experimental IV, but I still manage to get a 25 hour fly off with the > Hartzell blended airfoil prop. The only thing the DAR found was that > when the rudder cables are left slack, they tend to rest on the top > surface of the 2^nd last bulkhead ( the one in which the cables run in > the center of), so he suggested that I put a split hose over the top of > the bulkhead so when the cables wont rub against the bulkhead. First > flight is schedule for Friday May 26^th at K34 around 04:00pm. > > > > Thank You > *Ray Doerr* > > > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:39:32 PM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RV10-List: Test to see if my replies are being stripped --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" Test to see if my replies are being stripped. do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R [NTK] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: What fuel pressure should I see for electric or engine fuel pump on IO-540 engine. --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" --> The real problem for the low fuel pressure was the Dynon Sensor Type was set to 1 (Carb Version) instead of 2 (Injected Version). Once I changed this to 2, it is now reading 17.5 PSI at idle. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sipp Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:22 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: What fuel pressure should I see for electric or engine fuel pump on IO-540 engine. --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" The Ops Manual I have lists: inlet to fuel pump min -2 max 35 inlet to fuel injector min 14 max 45 min at idle 12 I think you should see something like 25 psi or so in normal operation. AirFlow Perfomance recommends a boost pump setting a few psi higher than the engine pump pressure to verify its operation on the fuel pressure gauge. It sounds like you may have a gauge or pressure sensor for a carbureted engine. Dick Sipp 40065 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 12:09 PM Subject: RV10-List: What fuel pressure should I see for electric or engine fuel pump on IO-540 engine. > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" > > > What fuel pressure should I see for the electric and/or the engine > fuel pump. The Lycoming operators manual talks abour 40 being the > max, but when I run the electric pump I get 6 and when the engine is > running at idle, it is also around 6 with the electric one off. Does > this sound normal for an Injected IO-540? > > > Thank You > Ray Doerr > 40250 (First engine run went great) > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:12:51 PM PST US From: "Rob Kermanj" Subject: Re: RV10-List: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" Good luck and be careful! Do not archive On 5/22/06, Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote: > > > N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today from > Chuck Morris (DAR). I have a IO-540-D4A5 that was rebuilt by America's > Aircraft Engines with the Silver Hawk EX fuel injection. My engine data > plate was replace with one from America's Aircraft Engine which says > Experimental IV, but I still manage to get a 25 hour fly off with the > Hartzell blended airfoil prop. The only thing the DAR found was that when > the rudder cables are left slack, they tend to rest on the top surface of > the 2nd last bulkhead ( the one in which the cables run in the center of), > so he suggested that I put a split hose over the top of the bulkhead so when > the cables won't rub against the bulkhead. First flight is schedule for > Friday May 26th at K34 around 04:00pm. > > > Thank You > Ray Doerr > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:42:56 PM PST US From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: RV10-List: Height of fuselage bottom from floor --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" I am making a jig/fancy table to support the fuselage and tail section in my shop and would like to know the height of the main fuselage bottom to the floor with the gear legs on(No wheels). Reference where the gear leg goes into the fuselage. I know all floors are not level, but also the distance of the bottom of the tail cone, last bulkhead(end), to the floor. With that said, I hopefully will in the end jack up the fuselage and insert the gear legs. Thanks John G. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:05:58 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Height of fuselage bottom from floor --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" I believe you will find that putting the fuselage/tailcone on a sufficiently high table will greatly complicate access to the rest of the fuselage for the build. You might consider a couple of refrigerator dollies under the main spar and padding the loading steps. lifting the fuselage to insert the gear legs should be relatively easy by using a portable crane to attach to the motor mount to lift it. Of course you put the gear on before the wings. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gonzalez" Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: RV10-List: Height of fuselage bottom from floor > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" > > I am making a jig/fancy table to support the fuselage and tail section in > my shop and would like to know the height of the main fuselage bottom to > the floor with the gear legs on(No wheels). Reference where the gear leg > goes into the fuselage. > > I know all floors are not level, but also the distance of the bottom of > the tail cone, last bulkhead(end), to the floor. > > With that said, I hopefully will in the end jack up the fuselage and > insert the gear legs. > > Thanks > > John G. > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:26 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Height of fuselage bottom from floor --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Don't trust this measurement if you want something exact, but for some reason I'm thinking I remember about 27" from floor to belly. I may be way off. I do have some of the measurements here: http://www.myrv10.com/tips/workarea.html If someone has that measurement from floor up, then I'll add that to the page. Russ Daves sent it to me a long time ago and for the life of me I can't find the email. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive John Gonzalez wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" > > I am making a jig/fancy table to support the fuselage and tail section > in my shop and would like to know the height of the main fuselage bottom > to the floor with the gear legs on(No wheels). Reference where the gear > leg goes into the fuselage. > > I know all floors are not level, but also the distance of the bottom of > the tail cone, last bulkhead(end), to the floor. > > With that said, I hopefully will in the end jack up the fuselage and > insert the gear legs. > > Thanks > > John G. > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:26 PM PST US From: "Mike Kraus" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Height of fuselage bottom from floor --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" I had my RV-10 on (2) flat 4 wheel dolly's until it was ready to go up on the gear legs. Then we lifted the front end (by hand) and put a saw horse under the front. Then did the same for the back and slid in the gear legs. No need for a 'crane' and it was very simple. Of course, none of these reply's give you the dimensions you were looking for.... -Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 7:05 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Height of fuselage bottom from floor --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" I believe you will find that putting the fuselage/tailcone on a sufficiently high table will greatly complicate access to the rest of the fuselage for the build. You might consider a couple of refrigerator dollies under the main spar and padding the loading steps. lifting the fuselage to insert the gear legs should be relatively easy by using a portable crane to attach to the motor mount to lift it. Of course you put the gear on before the wings. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gonzalez" Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 3:40 PM Subject: RV10-List: Height of fuselage bottom from floor > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" > --> > > I am making a jig/fancy table to support the fuselage and tail section > in > my shop and would like to know the height of the main fuselage bottom to > the floor with the gear legs on(No wheels). Reference where the gear leg > goes into the fuselage. > > I know all floors are not level, but also the distance of the bottom > of > the tail cone, last bulkhead(end), to the floor. > > With that said, I hopefully will in the end jack up the fuselage and > insert the gear legs. > > Thanks > > John G. > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:02:35 PM PST US From: "brian bollaert" Subject: Re: RV10-List: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. Hello Ray: Congrats Ray on the sign off ! I have the same IO-540-D4A5 as i think Tim does & many others (any web cams at K34?) anyway have a great time on the 26th . Brian Bollaert #20400 ----- Original Message ----- From: Doerr, Ray R [NTK] To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:02 AM Subject: RV10-List: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today from Chuck Morris (DAR). I have a IO-540-D4A5 that was rebuilt by America's Aircraft Engines with the Silver Hawk EX fuel injection. My engine data plate was replace with one from America's Aircraft Engine which says Experimental IV, but I still manage to get a 25 hour fly off with the Hartzell blended airfoil prop. The only thing the DAR found was that when the rudder cables are left slack, they tend to rest on the top surface of the 2nd last bulkhead ( the one in which the cables run in the center of), so he suggested that I put a split hose over the top of the bulkhead so when the cables won't rub against the bulkhead. First flight is schedule for Friday May 26th at K34 around 04:00pm. Thank You Ray Doerr ----- 5/22/2006 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:00 PM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RE: RV10-List: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. Yeah, this is what was happening to me. You send a note and get the contents stripped out. Anyone else having this problem? John Jessen do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of brian bollaert Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 4:59 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: N519RV (40250) just received it's airworthiness today. DAR). I have a IO-540-D4A5 that was rebuilt by America's Aircraft Engines with the Silver Hawk EX fuel injection. My engine data plate was replace with one from America's Aircraft Engine which says Experimental IV, but I still manage to get a 25 hour fly off with the Hartzell blended airfoil prop. The only thing the DAR found was that when the rudder cables are left slack, they tend to rest on the top surface of the 2nd last bulkhead ( the one in which the cables run in the center of), so he suggested that I put a split hose over the top of the bulkhead so when the cables won't rub against the bulkhead. First flight is schedule for Friday May 26th at K34 around 04:00pm. Thank You Ray Doerr _____ Checked by AVG Free Date: 5/22/2006 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:16:33 PM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Height of fuselage bottom from floor --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen No in the official archives, but in mine. I THINK this measurement was made with the wheels and tires on. Use at your own risk. From Tim: 27 inches from the ground to the belly. This is measured at about the mid point of the doors...just behind where the actual tires are. in response to Bob ..... trying to find the floor to belly measurement for the moment. Larry Rosen do not archive Tim Olson wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > Don't trust this measurement if you want something exact, but for some > reason I'm thinking I remember about 27" from floor to belly. I > may be way off. > > I do have some of the measurements here: > http://www.myrv10.com/tips/workarea.html > > If someone has that measurement from floor up, then I'll add that to > the page. > > Russ Daves sent it to me a long time ago and for the life of me I > can't find the email. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > John Gonzalez wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" >> >> >> I am making a jig/fancy table to support the fuselage and tail >> section in my shop and would like to know the height of the main >> fuselage bottom to the floor with the gear legs on(No wheels). >> Reference where the gear leg goes into the fuselage. >> >> I know all floors are not level, but also the distance of the bottom >> of the tail cone, last bulkhead(end), to the floor. >> >> With that said, I hopefully will in the end jack up the fuselage and >> insert the gear legs. >> >> Thanks >> >> John G. >> >> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:16 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: UP COMING RV FLY IN From: "bcondrey" --> RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey" I will be there again! Bob #40105 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=35928#35928 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:23 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Height of fuselage bottom from floor --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis I echo Dave's comments. you will want the Fuse fairly low to facilitate all of the work that goes on during it's build. the gear legs don't get added until the finish kit. and everything in the Fuse plans have you reaching over/under the fuse to get to things. I've got mine on some cut-off sawhorses (a la Rick sked) with wheels on them, but if I did it over I'd cut off a couple more inches from the saw-horses. (I'm what you call 'vertically challenged') here's a pic: http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2029%20Fuse%20Side%20Skins/slides/DSC02554.html Deems Davis # 406 Fuse http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:46 PM PST US From: "Robert G. Wright" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Engine limts >From http://rvimg.com/tcds/lycoming-io-540.pdf: Oil: Maximum Minimum Normal operation 95 p.s.i. 55 p.s.i. Idling # 25 p.s.i. Starting, warm-up, Taxi and Take off: 115 p.s.i. # "#" indicates does not apply IO-540-D4A5 p.s.i. at inlet to fuel injector Max. Injector Maximum Minimum Minimum Idle in Idle cutoff 45 14 12 55 II. MODELS: IO-540- IO-540 -D4A5, -D4B5, -D4C5, -N1A5, -R1A5, -D4A5 AEIO-540- -D4A5, -D4B5, -D4C5 -D4D5 Type - - Rating 260-2700 Takeoff and maximum continuous hp., rpm, full throttle at: sea level pressure altitude NOTE 1. Temperature Limits (Maximum permissible): Cylinder head (well type thermocouple) 500=B0F Cylinder base 325=B0F Cylinder base temperature limits are not applicable to engine models which incorporate internal piston cooling oil jets. Oil inlet 245=B0F NOTE 9. For all models - ignition and center of gravity: C.G. location (dry with starter and generator installed) Models Ignition, dual* + >From front face of propeller mounting flange (in.) Off prop. shaft C.L. (in.) Vertical Lateral IO-540 -D4A5 TCM S6LN-200, S6LN-204 18.16 1.15 below 0.21 left I couldn=92t find a good source for a parallel valve engine, but Lycoming shows that for a K series (300 HP) motor, oil temps should be between 165F and 220F, whatever the Celsius equivalent is. Hopefully that will get you started. Rob Wright -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:35 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Engine limts --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" Good catch Robert! I want the recommended D4A5 data. I really appreciate it. Do not archive. On 5/21/06, Robert G. Wright wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" > > Before I go digging, want to make sure you want the A4D5, not the > recommended D4A5. > > Rob Wright > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 6:37 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Engine limts > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" > > I wonder if someone could send me the engine operating limits (RPM, > Oil Press, Temp, etc.) for for an IO540 A4D5? Thanks. > > Do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ======================== ========= ======================== ========= ======================== ========= ======================== ========= ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 11:43:57 PM PST US From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fastener Concern I wouldn't bother.....the load would be minimal so why reinvent the wheel?? Kind regards Chris RV^ and now 10 ----- Original Message ----- From: greerdans@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 12:54 PM Subject: RV10-List: Fastener Concern While working on the wings I noticed that that the Aileron Bellcrank Attach Brackets are attached using only two bolts each into platenuts, without any other locking feature. Considering the importance of the Brackets in the Aileron Linkage I'm surprised that they are not riveted or secured with some additional locking feature. Since I'm really just getting into the critical contol linkages and I'm not sure if this is a common design approach that Van's uses throughout the kit or if is it used in aircraft in general?. I wanted to find out if others have other considered this as a potental problem area and have you done anything to improve the design? (loctite, jam nut, etc.) For those with more experience building/inspecting aircraft have you ever found that bolts installed in platenuts, properly torqued, have loosened or vibrated out? Thanks, George Costigan 40434 Wings