---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/30/06: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:01 AM - Re: Re: paint (Brian Sponcil) 2. 08:21 AM - Re: Fuselage Firewall Gotchas? (Mike Lauritsen - Work) 3. 08:44 AM - Re: Retractable (James Clark) 4. 08:49 AM - Re: Fuselage Firewall Gotchas? (Bob Newman) 5. 03:32 PM - Re: Fiberglass panel options (Randy DeBauw) 6. 07:02 PM - RV-10 Longitudinal Level (Mike Kraus) 7. 07:36 PM - Re: 10s in LAS (bob.kaufmann) 8. 07:37 PM - Re: RV-10 Longitudinal Level (Tim Olson) 9. 09:10 PM - Re: 10s in LAS (John Erickson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:15 AM PST US From: "Brian Sponcil" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: paint --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Sponcil" Current thinking in our camp is to go with a scheme similar to the Mooney Aclaim. http://www.mooney.com/aircraft/acclaim/ -Brian N211BD #40497 Iowa City, IA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim & Julie Wade" Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 6:15 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: paint > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim & Julie Wade" > > > Actually I stole it!!!!!! Flew a Columbia 400 at Sun&Fun. That is the 06 > paint scheme!! Got me a Columbia for 1/3 the price!!!!!!!! > Jim > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=36928#36928 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:07 AM PST US From: "Mike Lauritsen - Work" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuselage Firewall Gotchas? --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Lauritsen - Work" I have a rough video showing the c-frame being used for riveting. I don't have the voice over figured out yet so half of the voice over is bad, and the other half is missing, but at least you can see it in action. There are two sizes for different internet connections: Small (1MB): http://www.cleavelandtool.com/video/rsb12_low.wmv Large (10MB): http://www.cleavelandtool.com/video/rsb12.wmv Mike Lauritsen Cleaveland Aircraft Tool 2225 First St. Boone, Iowa 50036 515-432-6794 mike@cleavelandtool.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LIKE2LOOP@aol.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:31 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuselage Firewall Gotchas? --> RV10-List message posted by: LIKE2LOOP@aol.com In a message dated 5/26/06 12:45 pm, ricksked@earthlink.net writes: << Use your C-frame to rivet all the 470-4 rivets...it will save you lots of heartache over bucking the rivets. >> keep talking...... I never thought of using the C-frame for seating rivets. Do you hit the sliding arm with the mallet or rivet gun? What die goes in which part? (dome of rivet up or down?) What does the job best? Thanks for any tips! Steve Port St. Lucie, FL 772-475-5556 Sent from my Treo 600 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:09 AM PST US From: "James Clark" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Retractable See the plane in flight with its "sibling" below ... Also another "retract 4". Both photos were from the "archives" :-) of a local RV4 builder, "RVRC". James (hope the attachments made it through) On 5/28/06, Evan and Megan Johnson wrote: > > A fellow in Germany named Klaus Roth built one just recently. It is a > really beautiful job but as others have already stated it flys no > faster...just looks faster. There was a good article in kitplanes about it > written by our friend Ishmael Fuentes. The picture below comes from Dirk > Schlichtenhorst's RV 4 web page. http://www.rv8r.de/welcome.htm.... I > personally wont be trying anything like this on my 10 project but I > certainly want to see the results of others efforts. I spoke with at least > one builder who is converting to a taildragger....maybe the same guy? > Evan Johnson > www.evansaviationproducts.com > (530)247-0375 > (530)351-1776 cell > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* RobHickman@aol.com > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Saturday, May 27, 2006 7:40 PM > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Retractable > > There have actually been 2 RV-4's with retracts. > > One was done by Dave Lewis in Hillsboro Oregon for a customer. The plane > was black and gray and has had at least one gear up landing. It was a lot > heavier and not that much faster, but did it look cool. > > The other is the blue and white one from Canada. > > Rob Hickman > . > -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com . ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:29 AM PST US From: "Bob Newman" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuselage Firewall Gotchas? --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" I'm just finishing up the firewall, here's what I did. I used my rivet squeezer with a deep throat jaw for all the -4 rivets possible around the periphery of the firewall. This helped provide a lot rigidity to the sheet metal and ensure the aluminum parts were perfectly seated against the stainless. Then I back-riveted all of the interior rivets using a 3" by 20" chunk of steel laid flat on the work bench and a back rivet set in the pneumatic rivet gun. I found I can control the mating of the parts much better with back riveting and squeezing as opposed to using the c-frame and a hammer. Bob Newman 40176 plane #5, slow build everything... :) >>> ricksked@earthlink.net 5/26/2006 12:42:07 PM >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick CJ, Don't open the holes in the recess if you are planning on doing the throttle quadrant. Tim Olson I think said he had to close his off and use different routing for the cable due to the quadrant. Use your C-frame to rivet all the 470-4 rivets...it will save you lots of heartache over bucking the rivets. That's all I have for you, I'm sure others will have some more. Rick S. 40185 Fuse/finish ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:34 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fiberglass panel options From: "Randy DeBauw" --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" On my fiberglass panel I used the ends or the cross brace only. I cut the last 1 1/2" off and riveted it to the fuse side skin. When I placed the panel in place I drilled through the panel into cross brace end pieces then pulled the panel and installed nut plates on them. Now there is one screw in each lower corner to hold it. I have the center console so there is no movement at all. Randy -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Gesele Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 2:53 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fiberglass panel options --> RV10-List message posted by: Tom Gesele First, thanks for the responses to my question. Second, I was hoping to get information on the mounting differences between the stock aluminum panel and the various fiberglass substitutes available. Specifically, looking at the way the stock panel mounts, there is a lower sub-panel (F-1003B) that screws to the main panel and is riveted to the fuselage side skins. If you use one of the fiberglass substitutes, is this piece required, does it require modifications, or is there a piece that substitutes for it? Also, do any of the three ribs from the F/W to the panel require any modifications? Thanks in advance for any insights from those who've already gone this route. Tom Gesele #473 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Randy DeBauw Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:04 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fiberglass panel options --> RV10-List message posted by: "Randy DeBauw" The modification all depends on what you put in the panel. I had almost no changes to rib (only a slight relief on the lower flange). I moved the MX20 to the top of the stack so the center rib has no modifications at all. Randy ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:40 PM PST US From: "Mike Kraus" Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Longitudinal Level What is the longitudinal level line in the RV-10? Is it the bottom of the door opening where the main longeron's are, or is it the longerons that are in the tail cone section? Mine seem to be about 1.7 degrees different. I could not seem to find anything in the plans. Thanks -Mike ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:24 PM PST US From: "bob.kaufmann" Subject: RE: RV10-List: 10s in LAS --> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" I'm in Vegas(Bob K), Rick S, and Chris Huckel. Also John, and I think two others, but they are laying low. Bob K -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: RV10-List: 10s in LAS --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" I am bringing the family to LAS next week and will have a little time to spare while they see the playground in Circus Circus. Anyone with a 10 at my stage of completion? finish kit or firewall forward? ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:37:10 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Longitudinal Level --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson It's the main longeron under the door area...a little below the door. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Mike Kraus wrote: > What is the longitudinal level line in the RV-10? Is it the bottom of > the door opening where the main longeron's are, or is it the longerons > that are in the tail cone section? Mine seem to be about 1.7 degrees > different. > > I could not seem to find anything in the plans. Thanks > -Mike ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:45 PM PST US From: "John Erickson" Subject: RE: RV10-List: 10s in LAS --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Erickson" Yup, I'm here also. Just finished moving from one house to another, so just getting my shop set back up. (Hence laying low... :-) ) Of course, Bob and Rick are both way ahead of me. Haven't seen Chris's yet... John #40208 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob.kaufmann Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:35 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: 10s in LAS --> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" I'm in Vegas(Bob K), Rick S, and Chris Huckel. Also John, and I think two others, but they are laying low. Bob K -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 4:57 PM Subject: RV10-List: 10s in LAS --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" I am bringing the family to LAS next week and will have a little time to spare while they see the playground in Circus Circus. Anyone with a 10 at my stage of completion? finish kit or firewall forward?