---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/07/06: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:26 AM - Re: Andair Parts / Neal George Moved (Rick) 2. 07:33 AM - transponder antenna (Chris Hukill) 3. 08:37 AM - Re: Transponder Antenna Placement (Jesse Saint) 4. 08:37 AM - Re: rear seat heat (Jesse Saint) 5. 08:42 AM - Re: Fuel tank tabs (Vern W. Smith) 6. 09:17 AM - (Cal Hoffman) 7. 09:22 AM - Re: rear seat heat (Vern W. Smith) 8. 03:21 PM - Re: Re: HS done! Elevators next (LIKE2LOOP@aol.com) 9. 06:51 PM - Tim's in Flying Magazine! (Tim Dawson-Townsend) 10. 08:53 PM - Re: Tim's in Flying Magazine! (Tim Olson) 11. 09:08 PM - Re: Tim's in Flying Magazine! (Rick) 12. 09:22 PM - bearing fit (Chris , Susie Darcy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:54 AM PST US From: Rick Subject: RE: RV10-List: Andair Parts / Neal George Moved --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick FWIW, Neal is great to deal with, I picked up my valve from him. Rick S. 40185 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:08 AM PST US From: "Chris Hukill" Subject: RV10-List: transponder antenna I mounted my transponder antenna in the tailcone, just abeam the elevator bellcrank. This allows for a very short coax feed, as I will use a remote transponder, as the panel space in a 10 is very limited for an IFR machine. This location is very accessible, and far enough away from the comm antennas, which are mounted in the area just forward of the rear seats, under the flap tubes covers, which are also accessible. As I work in the tunnel, I would like to comment that there is lot of stuff in there already, and trying to jam in anything else, like an antenna would be masochistic. Don't forget that you'll be standing on your head working in that tunnel at every annual to clean and inspect that fuel filter. Chris Hukill developing tunnel vision ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:22 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Transponder Antenna Placement --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" That's where the COM's are going, left and right side under the pilots. I am putting my Xpndr as far forward as I can get to in the center tunnel. I wonder, with the Vetterman exhaust, if it isn't better going all the way forward, since the pipes stick out a couple of inches, then with the airflow it might be less hot right up between them than 6-18 inches back. Just a thought. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 10:15 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Transponder Antenna Placement --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" why not locate it under the right seat? no access or heat considerations ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 6:51 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Transponder Antenna Placement > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > My choice to go aft was for something I think is a good reason. If you > go in the center, right behind the firewall, your exhaust will be > blowing within inches of your antenna. As long as you can get to the > area, adding the doubler won't be too bad later (if you have help > bucking, or use pop rivets (which is what I did). You may want to wait > on locating it until you get a good view of a cowl and can see > see into the future a bit further. As you build, you'll find all > sorts of things that may get in the way, so I'd just keep pounding on > the major structure as much as possible. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > John Hasbrouck wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" >> >> I'm thinking that a good place for the x-ponder ant. is just behind the >> firewall, under the forward part of the tunnel just below the heat duct >> "T". What I don't know is what the cowl is like in this area and how far >> forward I can place the blade antenna without interference. I read Tim's >> site and he indicated his is near the fuel pump which would be a little >> farther aft. That sounds like a more crowded area but probably easier to >> get to if the need arose. Also, how bad, if at all, would interference >> with the signal be from the nose gear? I'm about to rivet the forward >> bottom skin and want to double the area and place the nutplates while >> it's easy. Any suggestions? >> >> John Hasbrouck >> #40264 >> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > -- -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:22 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: rear seat heat Did he provide any price information? Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:02 PM Subject: RV10-List: rear seat heat After much thought, and taking into consideration what comments I've received from fellow listers, I have decided on my cabin heat solution. I have talked to Don ( RV8 builder) at Aviacomp (503) 543-3986, whom manufactures all the heat/ vent ducting parts for Vans, as well as Cirrus, etc, etc., and he is going to modify the T duct (Van's p/n VA-175 Heat Duct Tee) which is just aft of the firewall, to include a selector valve that will allow me to direct the forward heat to go left, right or mix both. This will be a direct replacement for the non selector T valve, and will mate to the existing Vans VENT DL-102.4 flanges. This will allow me to control the left/right heat volume in the forward footwell area. In addition, Don will provide me with another selector valve, which I will install in the rear heat supply line, that will allow me to mix (divert) the aft heat to a duct for defog function This is a solution that allows me the most flexibility, with minimum weight and complexity (two additional control cables). Don will provide similar components for anyone else interested in a similar system, just give him a call. Chris Hukill Workin the tunnel -- -- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:23 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel tank tabs From: "Vern W. Smith" Hi, Thank you all for your input on the fuel tank tabs. There were some very good points to think about and some great ideas. Thanks again, Vern Smith Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vern W. Smith Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:22 AM Subject: RV10-List: Fuel tank tabs Hi, Has anyone installed fuel tank tabs to allow for accurate partial filling of the fuel tanks? I believe Piper uses these on the Cherokee. If you have, how long are they, what material did you use and where did you anchor them? Thanks, Vern Smith ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:06 AM PST US From: "Cal Hoffman" Subject: RV10-List: Do not archive Has anyone considered augmenter tubes for exhaust? My experience with the T-34 concludes that augmenter tubes, properly configured, solve a lot of temp problems at exhaust outlet, can provide better cooling of the engine, and may also increase thrust. Cal (40119 - wiring) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:22:49 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: rear seat heat From: "Vern W. Smith" Hi, Would this be a good way to get heat up to a defroster? I know there has been some discussion on using computer fans to blow air on the windscreen. I have to admit I haven't really looked that far ahead in the plans to know what provisions are incorporated. Vern Smith (wing flaps) _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: RV10-List: rear seat heat After much thought, and taking into consideration what comments I've received from fellow listers, I have decided on my cabin heat solution. I have talked to Don ( RV8 builder) at Aviacomp (503) 543-3986, whom manufactures all the heat/ vent ducting parts for Vans, as well as Cirrus, etc, etc., and he is going to modify the T duct (Van's p/n VA-175 Heat Duct Tee) which is just aft of the firewall, to include a selector valve that will allow me to direct the forward heat to go left, right or mix both. This will be a direct replacement for the non selector T valve, and will mate to the existing Vans VENT DL-102.4 flanges. This will allow me to control the left/right heat volume in the forward footwell area. In addition, Don will provide me with another selector valve, which I will install in the rear heat supply line, that will allow me to mix (divert) the aft heat to a duct for defog function This is a solution that allows me the most flexibility, with minimum weight and complexity (two additional control cables). Don will provide similar components for anyone else interested in a similar system, just give him a call. Chris Hukill Workin the tunnel ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:21:49 PM PST US From: LIKE2LOOP@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: HS done! Elevators next In a message dated 6/6/2006 9:33:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, michael@wellenzohn.net writes: Good job, any heads up for me regarding the HS, because I just started it now When you countersink the spars to allow for the skin dimples, error on the side of too deep (ever so slightly, vs too shallow), so the skin seats completely into the depression and is not held apart when rivetting. On the nose ribs, bend the very front corner inward to avoid excess pressure on the skin when you finally seat the inspars and ribs into the skin. On the wood jigs to hold the assembly, cover all the surfaces that will contact metal with duct tape as a cusion, and if you error on cutting the wood, make them too big. They are not needed for detail fitting, the match drilling does that, just to hold the thing up while you work. Label all the parts for "top" or "Bottom" and left and right. after you match drill, then disaasemble, there are a lot of parts. Number all the ribs in an order that makes sense to make reassembly a no brainer. It seems obvious, but often you will have the HS upside down and top is now down...... it only matters for a few holes that you will skip rivetting and dimpling on the top side, and for the attach brackets. BUY the CNC attach barckets (and the weldment nuts for the elevator trim) from Silverbullet..... his brother is on this network, ad the e-mail address may be in the archives, very nice parts and priced fairly. Get started, there are a lot of rivets....... fun to have a BIG part done. Steve Stephen G. Blank,DDS RV-10 #40499 Building the Elevators. Cessna 170b Flyer Port St Lucie, FL 772-475-5556 cell ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:14 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Tim's in Flying Magazine! From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" Tim O, it looks like you're in the latest Flying Magazine, I think on Page 77, in an article about Sun N Fun. (Or at least your airplane is!) TDT 40025 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:53:14 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tim's in Flying Magazine! --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Which issue is it by month? I think I must be getting one soon, as I read the last one about 3 weeks ago I think. I love Flying mag...great read! It's actually my favorite of the aviation mags, because I love the various writers. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: > Tim O, it looks like you're in the latest Flying Magazine, I think on Page 77, in an article about Sun N Fun. (Or at least your airplane is!) > > TDT > 40025 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:08:14 PM PST US From: Rick Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tim's in Flying Magazine! --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick jeez.....are those Bose headsets still gonna fit? ;) Rick S. 40185 do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:14 PM PST US From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" Subject: RV10-List: bearing fit Anyone had any problems with the fit of the bearings to the bellcranks in the fuse...eg bellcrank needs to be re bent for bearing to fit. f-1089 ..90 chris