RV10-List Digest Archive

Thu 06/08/06


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 05:16 AM - Cockpit Paint Question (Tom Gesele)
     2. 07:26 AM - Re: Tim's in Flying Magazine! (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
     3. 08:55 AM - Re: Re: HS done! Elevators next (John Jessen)
     4. 09:48 AM - Re: Tim's in Flying Magazine! (Indran Chelvanayagam)
     5. 11:43 AM - Re: Cockpit Paint Question (Tim Olson)
     6. 12:49 PM - Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps  (jdalton77)
     7. 01:04 PM - and it continues.... (Bob Newman)
     8. 02:51 PM - Trailing Edges (zackrv8)
     9. 03:16 PM - finish kit orders (Chris Johnston)
    10. 04:42 PM - Re: finish kit orders (Deems Davis)
    11. 04:50 PM - Joined the forward and center fuselage section last night and used proseal (Eric Panning)
    12. 08:25 PM - PP alternator (Robert G. Wright)
    13. 08:44 PM - Re: PP alternator (Tim Olson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:16:30 AM PST US
    From: Tom Gesele <tgesele@optonline.net>
    Subject: Cockpit Paint Question
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tom Gesele <tgesele@optonline.net> For those that have installed a FlightLine interior, what areas of the cockpit are left uncovered and need to be painted? Thanks, Tom Gesele #40473 - Fuselage


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    Time: 07:26:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Tim's in Flying Magazine!
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> It is your favorite magazine because they have a pic of your plane? "GRIN" Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:50 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tim's in Flying Magazine! --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Which issue is it by month? I think I must be getting one soon, as I read the last one about 3 weeks ago I think. I love Flying mag...great read! It's actually my favorite of the aviation mags, because I love the various writers. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: > Tim O, it looks like you're in the latest Flying Magazine, I think on Page 77, in an article about Sun N Fun. (Or at least your airplane is!) > > TDT > 40025


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    Time: 08:55:59 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Re: HS done! Elevators next
    Steve, Nice explanation. I agree with it all. Can I have permission to use this on my web site, proper reference being given? Probably put it under helpful hints for the HS. John J 328 Tailcone www.jessen-rv10.com _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LIKE2LOOP@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 3:16 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: HS done! Elevators next In a message dated 6/6/2006 9:33:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, michael@wellenzohn.net writes: Good job, any heads up for me regarding the HS, because I just started it now When you countersink the spars to allow for the skin dimples, error on the side of too deep (ever so slightly, vs too shallow), so the skin seats completely into the depression and is not held apart when rivetting. On the nose ribs, bend the very front corner inward to avoid excess pressure on the skin when you finally seat the inspars and ribs into the skin. On the wood jigs to hold the assembly, cover all the surfaces that will contact metal with duct tape as a cusion, and if you error on cutting the wood, make them too big. They are not needed for detail fitting, the match drilling does that, just to hold the thing up while you work. Label all the parts for "top" or "Bottom" and left and right. after you match drill, then disaasemble, there are a lot of parts. Number all the ribs in an order that makes sense to make reassembly a no brainer. It seems obvious, but often you will have the HS upside down and top is now down...... it only matters for a few holes that you will skip rivetting and dimpling on the top side, and for the attach brackets. BUY the CNC attach barckets (and the weldment nuts for the elevator trim) from Silverbullet..... his brother is on this network, ad the e-mail address may be in the archives, very nice parts and priced fairly. Get started, there are a lot of rivets....... fun to have a BIG part done. Steve Stephen G. Blank,DDS RV-10 #40499 Building the Elevators. Cessna 170b Flyer Port St Lucie, FL 772-475-5556 cell


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    Time: 09:48:33 AM PST US
    From: "Indran Chelvanayagam" <ichelva@netspace.net.au>
    Subject: Tim's in Flying Magazine!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Indran Chelvanayagam" <ichelva@netspace.net.au> Maybe it's Tim's favourite mag because they publish his letters? (See April issue) Indran -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Thursday, 8 June 2006 10:23 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tim's in Flying Magazine! --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." --> <LloydDR@wernerco.com> It is your favorite magazine because they have a pic of your plane? "GRIN" Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:50 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tim's in Flying Magazine! --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Which issue is it by month? I think I must be getting one soon, as I read the last one about 3 weeks ago I think. I love Flying mag...great read! It's actually my favorite of the aviation mags, because I love the various writers. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: > Tim O, it looks like you're in the latest Flying Magazine, I think on Page 77, in an article about Sun N Fun. (Or at least your airplane is!) > > TDT > 40025


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    Time: 11:43:56 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Cockpit Paint Question
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Around the doors and fiberglass top. The Glareshield and panel. A little bit of the sidewalls right under the panel, and above those side panels on the very aft edges of the panel. You may also want to paint around the metal box tube that the rear seatbacks rest against, but she makes a cover that will cover most of it. On the aft area where the rear door latch pins come thru, you'll want to paint too, and around your baggage door openings. If I were you, I'd just look at a few of the photos and paint everywhere that you don't definitely see carpet or panels, that way any of the exposed edges look nice. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Tom Gesele wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tom Gesele <tgesele@optonline.net> > > For those that have installed a FlightLine interior, what areas of the > cockpit are left uncovered and need to be painted? > > Thanks, > Tom Gesele #40473 - Fuselage > >


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    Time: 12:49:23 PM PST US
    From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net> I used a #40 and it was fine. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <michael@wellenzohn.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 9:17 AM Subject: RV10-List: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Michael Wellenzohn" > <michael@wellenzohn.net> > > Hello, I just finished the rudder and thanks to all contributers to this > list because my trailing edge came out real nice. > > I added a picture series of the rudder construction on my site > www.wellenzohn.net > > Here are two questions: > 1) How can I remove ProSeal spots from the skin (an easy way pls) > > 2) The HS construction requires 3/32 match drilling (HS Spar & Spar caps) > these drills didn't come with the Tool Kit I bought and I can't find them > on the tools webstores. Since I reside in Switzerland I wonder if match > drilling with a #40 would also do it. Any suggestions? > > Michael Wellenzohn > #40511 (HS) > Zrich,Switzerland > michael@wellenzohn.net > www.wellenzohn.net > > >


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    Time: 01:04:09 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com>
    Subject: and it continues....
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com> Received the finish kit today.....the parts inventory has been recharged... Bob Newman-40176 do not archive


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    Time: 02:51:46 PM PST US
    Subject: Trailing Edges
    From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> Forgive me if this is in the archives, but I have a question about the Aileron and Flap trailing edges. After mounting the flaps and ailerons onto the wing, the trailing edges do not match up. I was kind of hoping they would since the wings and flaps were not built in jigs per say. But they didn't. To make everything line up, I need to pull the 2 flap attach bolts (wing root bolt left on). The flap actually needs to be raised a little (wing is vertical in the jig) to make the flap parallel to the top skin rivets. Then, the bolt holes don't line up. Bummer! Has anbody else seen this and if you did, what did you do about it? Zack -------- RV8 #80125 RV10 # 40512 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=39442#39442


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    Time: 03:16:43 PM PST US
    Subject: finish kit orders
    From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com> Hey all - I'm getting ready to order the finish kit, and wondered what deletions and/or substitutions people made. I haven't ordered my engine yet, but I was hoping to go bpa with a james cowl (pending revelations at osh). Any thoughts would be appreciated... cj #40410 fuse www.perfectlygoodairplane.net


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    Time: 04:42:21 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: finish kit orders
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> Chris, The obvious item is to delete the cowl. Van's gave me an $800 price reduction for that item, If you go w/ the James cowl it requires a 14" spinner, so unless Van's has one available, I don't think so) that's another item, I don t' know what the reduction is for that as I forgot to delete it from my order and the Finish kit arrives Mon! ( I ve got a number of items to return, but I figure I'll wait til towards the end and box them all up at the same time. ) If you also chose to use the James pressure plenum, you would also not want to go with Van's baffling kit, but that's a part of the FF forward. As is the exhaust if you do something different there. Deems Davis # 406 Fuse http://deemsrv10.com/


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    Time: 04:50:59 PM PST US
    From: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Joined the forward and center fuselage section last night and
    used proseal --> RV10-List message posted by: Eric Panning <ericmpmail-rv10@yahoo.com> I finally joined the slow build forward and center fuselage sections. At the overlapped skin joint under the center spars I applied ~ 120 grams of proseal in a very thin layer. I was concerned with the possiblity of water getting trapped between these layers and damaging the Al. I'm happy to say it went very smoothly and I had plenty of time to complete all the rivets. (except ~ 4 where I will have to invent another bucking bar to get to). John C gave me the inspiration at the last NW RV-10 meeting and I'm glad I did it. I also plan on prosealing the tail cone to fuselage joint and wing walk angles. (as well as firewall) I've also been priming with E2G973 and for the fuselage I am also applying a two part epoxy top coat. Another tip is after you connect the spar's with the Al spacers you can also install the seat rails temporarily to insure alignment. I'm still amazed that everything lines up perfectly considering the cumulative tolerances... Eric


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    Time: 08:25:03 PM PST US
    From: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
    Subject: PP alternator
    I've heard that Van's is now selling PlanePower's alternators, but can't make heads or tails of the vans online catalog. Anyone know if and then which models Vans is selling? Rob Wright


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    Time: 08:44:45 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: PP alternator
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Look for the ones called "Deluxe". Not sure if it's just the 60 or the 70 that they sell too. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Robert G. Wright wrote: > Ive heard that Vans is now selling PlanePowers alternators, but cant > make heads or tails of the vans online catalog. Anyone know if and then > which models Vans is selling? > > > > Rob Wright >




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