RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 06/09/06


Total Messages Posted: 38



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     1. 04:28 AM - Re: finish kit orders (Belue, Kevin)
     2. 05:01 AM - Painting (Rob Kermanj)
     3. 06:27 AM - Re: Trailing Edges (Rick)
     4. 06:31 AM - Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps (Wellenzohn)
     5. 08:10 AM - Re: Painting ()
     6. 08:57 AM - finishing kit ommisions (Chris Hukill)
     7. 09:17 AM - Re: finishing kit ommisions (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
     8. 10:02 AM - Re: finishing kit ommisions (Tim Olson)
     9. 10:48 AM - Re: finishing kit ommisions (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    10. 11:04 AM - James Aircraft 540 Plenum (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    11. 11:29 AM - Re: finishing kit ommisions (Eric Ekberg)
    12. 11:35 AM - Re: finishing kit ommisions (Tim Olson)
    13. 11:39 AM - Re: TDT Panel? Was: finishing kit ommisions (Sean Stephens)
    14. 11:49 AM - Re: TDT Panel? Was: finishing kit ommisions (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    15. 11:58 AM - Re: finishing kit omissions (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    16. 11:58 AM - Trailing Edges (Jay Brinkmeyer)
    17. 12:30 PM - Re: TDT Panel? Was: finishing kit ommisions (John Jessen)
    18. 12:44 PM - Re: Trailing Edges (zackrv8)
    19. 12:47 PM - Door Handles (Mark Carey)
    20. 12:48 PM - Re: TDT Panel? Was: finishing kit ommisions (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    21. 01:10 PM - Re: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps (LIKE2LOOP@aol.com)
    22. 01:11 PM - Re: Door Handles (Bobby J. Hughes)
    23. 01:19 PM - Re: TDT Panel? Was: finishing kit ommisions (John Jessen)
    24. 01:23 PM - Re: PP alternator (rv10builder)
    25. 01:48 PM - Re: Door Handles (Tim Olson)
    26. 01:48 PM - Re: finishing kit ommisions (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    27. 02:20 PM - Re: TDT Panel? Was: finishing kit ommisions (Rick)
    28. 02:27 PM - Re: James Aircraft 540 Plenum (Jesse Saint)
    29. 02:33 PM - Re: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps (Jesse Saint)
    30. 03:02 PM - dELETE (Dean Van Winkle)
    31. 03:22 PM - Re: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps (Chris , Susie Darcy)
    32. 03:33 PM - Re: James Aircraft 540 Plenum (Marcus Cooper)
    33. 04:33 PM - Re: James Aircraft 540 Plenum ()
    34. 04:57 PM - Re: James Aircraft 540 Plenum (Jesse Saint)
    35. 06:25 PM - Re: James Aircraft 540 Plenum (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    36. 08:02 PM - Re: air drills vs cordless (LIKE2LOOP@aol.com)
    37. 08:02 PM - Re: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps (LIKE2LOOP@aol.com)
    38. 08:28 PM - Re: Re: air drills vs cordless (Jesse Saint)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:28:15 AM PST US
    From: "Belue, Kevin" <KBelue@drs-tem.com>
    Subject: finish kit orders
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Belue, Kevin" <KBelue@DRS-TEM.com> Has anyone installed the Sam James cowl for the RV-10 and flown with it? I wonder what speeds/temperatures occur with this cowl. Kevin D. Belue RV-6A Flying RV-10 #261, Canopy > -----Original Message----- > From: Deems Davis [mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net] > Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 6:06 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: finish kit orders > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> > > Chris, The obvious item is to delete the cowl. Van's gave me an $800 > price reduction for that item, If you go w/ the James cowl it requires a > 14" spinner, so unless Van's has one available, I don't think so) that's > another item, I don t' know what the reduction is for that as I forgot > to delete it from my order and the Finish kit arrives Mon! ( I ve got a > number of items to return, but I figure I'll wait til towards the end > and box them all up at the same time. ) If you also chose to use the > James pressure plenum, you would also not want to go with Van's > baffling > kit, but that's a part of the FF forward. As is the exhaust if you do > something different there. > > Deems Davis # 406 > Fuse > http://deemsrv10.com/ > > > > > > > _- > ====================================================== > ==== > _- > ====================================================== > ==== > _- > ====================================================== > ==== > _- > ====================================================== > ==== > > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:01:58 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Painting
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com> Does anyone have a REALLY GOOD paint shop to recommend in Florida? Thanks.


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    Time: 06:27:30 AM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Trailing Edges
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> Zack, At first I thought the same thing, make sure the flap leading edge is up against the rear spar, that is it's neutral position. If your bottom skins are not on wait until they are before pressing the bushings into the flap brackets because the skins can't slip over the hinges. The bushings made the difference for me. I found as all the hardware was being installed everything seemed to line up fine after it was fully installed, torqued etc. Rick S. 40185 Fuse/Finish


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    Time: 06:31:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps
    From: "Wellenzohn" <michael@wellenzohn.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Wellenzohn" <michael@wellenzohn.net> Thanks guys for your input! I'll continue drilling with a #40 once my compressor works again, need to fix it (what a waste of time). Will go flying through the swiss alps this weekend (beautiful weather here) pictures will be added soon after on http://www.wellenzohn.net Rgs Michael to not archive -------- RV-10 builder #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=39569#39569


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    Time: 08:10:03 AM PST US
    From: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Painting
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net> > Check the one in Lantana, (KLNA)West Palm Beach airport,have a very good reputation Hugo > Date: 2006/06/09 Fri AM 07:59:58 EDT > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Painting > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Kermanj" <flysrv10@gmail.com> > > Does anyone have a REALLY GOOD paint shop to recommend in Florida? > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:57:38 AM PST US
    From: "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill@cox.net>
    Subject: finishing kit ommisions
    I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my finishing kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of the kit, so I knew what was there. As I want to leave my options open for a James cowl, I omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right inlets, oil door and core, and all the spinner parts (7 items). I also omitted the tires and tubes, as I like the leakguard tubes and better tires. If anyone wants the actual part numbers of the cowl / spinner parts to omit, I would be happy to fax the list, and save you and Vans the trouble. Chris Hukill completing Andair installation 702 591-7551 cel


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    Time: 09:17:20 AM PST US
    Subject: finishing kit ommisions
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    I bet if you scan the list, Tim O will be happy to post it on his website . . . TDT 40025 FF ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my finishing kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of the kit, so I knew what was there. As I want to leave my options open for a James cowl, I omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right inlets, oil door and core, and all the spinner parts (7 items). I also omitted the tires and tubes, as I like the leakguard tubes and better tires. If anyone wants the actual part numbers of the cowl / spinner parts to omit, I would be happy to fax the list, and save you and Vans the trouble. Chris Hukill completing Andair installation 702 591-7551 cel


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    Time: 10:02:38 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: finishing kit ommisions
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Absolutely. Then everyone can just look it up. I did some updating today of the paint tips to include something sent to me by Rick Sked, regarding where to paint the cabin if you're getting Abby's interior: http://www.myrv10.com/tips/painting.html Also, just got some air-to-air photos posted from last night. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060608/index.html Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: > I bet if you scan the list, Tim O will be happy to post it on his > website . . . > > > > > TDT > > 40025 > > FF > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Hukill > *Sent:* Friday, June 09, 2006 11:58 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions > > > > I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my finishing > kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of the kit, so I > knew what was there. As I want to leave my options open for a James > cowl, I omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right inlets, oil door and > core, and all the spinner parts (7 items). I also omitted the tires and > tubes, as I like the leakguard tubes and better tires. If anyone wants > the actual part numbers of the cowl / spinner parts to omit, I would be > happy to fax the list, and save you and Vans the trouble. > > > > Chris Hukill > > completing Andair installation > > 702 591-7551 cel >


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    Time: 10:48:17 AM PST US
    Subject: finishing kit ommisions
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Here is the IO-540 & Finish kit contents. I don't have the stuff crossed out but it is basically what Chris listed below. I plan on putting together a list of exclusion items based on my engine config once I get to that point. My engine is the BPA IO-540-X with the cold air induction. I will be using the special James cowl (for the cold air induction) and also their plenum. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I bet if you scan the list, Tim O will be happy to post it on his website . . . TDT 40025 FF ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my finishing kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of the kit, so I knew what was there. As I want to leave my options open for a James cowl, I omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right inlets, oil door and core, and all the spinner parts (7 items). I also omitted the tires and tubes, as I like the leakguard tubes and better tires. If anyone wants the actual part numbers of the cowl / spinner parts to omit, I would be happy to fax the list, and save you and Vans the trouble. Chris Hukill completing Andair installation 702 591-7551 cel


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    Time: 11:04:49 AM PST US
    Subject: James Aircraft 540 Plenum
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Sam sent me my plenum this week and I thought some of you might want a peek. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22>


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    Time: 11:29:43 AM PST US
    From: "Eric Ekberg" <etekberg@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: finishing kit ommisions
    Is that a 300hp engine? Is that fuel injected? Can you use that cowling with fuel injection? Are you concerned with exceeding Van's Vne at altitude? Sorry for all the questions, just trying to learn. --- Eric Ekberg RV-10 583 - Empennage On 6/9/06, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <rvbuilder@sausen.net> wrote: > > Here is the IO-540 & Finish kit contents. I don't have the stuff crossed > out but it is basically what Chris listed below. I plan on putting together > a list of exclusion items based on my engine config once I get to that > point. My engine is the BPA IO-540-X with the cold air induction. I will > be using the special James cowl (for the cold air induction) and also their > plenum. > > > Michael Sausen > > RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage > > Do Not Archive > > Recent RV-10 Build Activity<http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Dawson-Townsend > *Sent:* Friday, June 09, 2006 11:16 AM > > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions > > > I bet if you scan the list, Tim O will be happy to post it on his website > . . . > > > TDT > > 40025 > > FF > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Hukill > *Sent:* Friday, June 09, 2006 11:58 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions > > > I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my finishing > kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of the kit, so I knew > what was there. As I want to leave my options open for a James cowl, I > omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right inlets, oil door and core, and all > the spinner parts (7 items). I also omitted the tires and tubes, as I like > the leakguard tubes and better tires. If anyone wants the actual part > numbers of the cowl / spinner parts to omit, I would be happy to fax the > list, and save you and Vans the trouble. > > > Chris Hukill > > completing Andair installation > > 702 591-7551 cel >


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    Time: 11:35:05 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: finishing kit ommisions
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> For those who get the digest version, and for other references, I've added Michael's file here: http://www.myrv10.com/tips/kits/index.html along with other kit parts lists I've had posted there. Back-up one level for the tips index: http://www.myrv10.com/tips/index.html If anyone ever has any updates to contribute, that would be great. It would be nice to have someone's packing list info for all the various kits shipping today. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > Here is the IO-540 & Finish kit contents. I don't have the stuff > crossed out but it is basically what Chris listed below. I plan on > putting together a list of exclusion items based on my engine config > once I get to that point. My engine is the BPA IO-540-X with the cold > air induction. I will be using the special James cowl (for the cold air > induction) and also their plenum. > > > Michael Sausen > > RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage > > Do Not Archive > > Recent RV-10 Build Activity > <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim > Dawson-Townsend > *Sent:* Friday, June 09, 2006 11:16 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions > > I bet if you scan the list, Tim O will be happy to post it on his > website . . . > > > > > TDT > > 40025 > > FF > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Hukill > *Sent:* Friday, June 09, 2006 11:58 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions > > > > I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my finishing > kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of the kit, so I > knew what was there. As I want to leave my options open for a James > cowl, I omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right inlets, oil door and > core, and all the spinner parts (7 items). I also omitted the tires and > tubes, as I like the leakguard tubes and better tires. If anyone wants > the actual part numbers of the cowl / spinner parts to omit, I would be > happy to fax the list, and save you and Vans the trouble. > > > > Chris Hukill > > completing Andair installation > > 702 591-7551 cel >


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    Time: 11:39:52 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <schmoboy@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: finishing kit ommisions
    Hey Tim.. Have any pictures of big Avidyne screens in your panel yet? I sure wish I was able to get an Entegra setup without going through certified dealers. :) I absolutely love those screens. -Sean #40303 (Still closing up wings) On Jun 9, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: > I bet if you scan the list, Tim O will be happy to post it on his > website . . . > > > TDT > > 40025 > > FF > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill > Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:58 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions > > > I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my > finishing kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of > the kit, so I knew what was there. As I want to leave my options > open for a James cowl, I omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right > inlets, oil door and core, and all the spinner parts (7 items). I > also omitted the tires and tubes, as I like the leakguard tubes and > better tires. If anyone wants the actual part numbers of the cowl / > spinner parts to omit, I would be happy to fax the list, and save > you and Vans the trouble. > > > Chris Hukill > > completing Andair installation > > 702 591-7551 cel > >


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    Time: 11:49:37 AM PST US
    Subject: finishing kit ommisions
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    I've had a couple dummy units in for a fit check, but still need to finish some wiring to get to the point of firing up a real set. Should be soon, though . . . TDT 40025 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: Re: TDT Panel? Was: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions Hey Tim.. Have any pictures of big Avidyne screens in your panel yet? I sure wish I was able to get an Entegra setup without going through certified dealers. :) I absolutely love those screens. -Sean #40303 (Still closing up wings) On Jun 9, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: I bet if you scan the list, Tim O will be happy to post it on his website . . . TDT 40025 FF ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my finishing kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of the kit, so I knew what was there. As I want to leave my options open for a James cowl, I omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right inlets, oil door and core, and all the spinner parts (7 items). I also omitted the tires and tubes, as I like the leakguard tubes and better tires. If anyone wants the actual part numbers of the cowl / spinner parts to omit, I would be happy to fax the list, and save you and Vans the trouble. Chris Hukill completing Andair installation 702 591-7551 cel


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    Time: 11:58:17 AM PST US
    Subject: finishing kit omissions
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    583! Good lord! TDT Do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Ekberg Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:29 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions Is that a 300hp engine? Is that fuel injected? Can you use that cowling with fuel injection? Are you concerned with exceeding Van's Vne at altitude? Sorry for all the questions, just trying to learn. --- Eric Ekberg RV-10 583 - Empennage On 6/9/06, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <rvbuilder@sausen.net> wrote: Here is the IO-540 & Finish kit contents. I don't have the stuff crossed out but it is basically what Chris listed below. I plan on putting together a list of exclusion items based on my engine config once I get to that point. My engine is the BPA IO-540-X with the cold air induction. I will be using the special James cowl (for the cold air induction) and also their plenum. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> ] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I bet if you scan the list, Tim O will be happy to post it on his website . . . TDT 40025 FF ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my finishing kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of the kit, so I knew what was there. As I want to leave my options open for a James cowl, I omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right inlets, oil door and core, and all the spinner parts (7 items). I also omitted the tires and tubes, as I like the leakguard tubes and better tires. If anyone wants the actual part numbers of the cowl / spinner parts to omit, I would be happy to fax the list, and save you and Vans the trouble. Chris Hukill completing Andair installation 702 591-7551 cel


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    Time: 11:58:17 AM PST US
    From: Jay Brinkmeyer <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Trailing Edges
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> >From your description I have the same flap/aileron trailing edge aligment issue on one wing (less than 1/4" as I recall). A couple of folks have looked at it (including the local EAA tech advisor) and no one has pointed at anything that might be amiss. One of the guys on the Vans builder line said that I might have warped or twisted the flap slightly and that could attribute to the funky edge. I voted to not build a show plan and just keep on going as nothing is falling off. Hope this makes sense. Jay Slow build everything... Fuse Time: 02:51:46 PM PST US Subject: Trailing Edges From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> Forgive me if this is in the archives, but I have a question about the Aileron and Flap trailing edges. After mounting the flaps and ailerons onto the wing, the trailing edges do not match up. I was kind of hoping they would since the wings and flaps were not built in jigs per say. But they didn't. To make everything line up, I need to pull the 2 flap attach bolts (wing root bolt left on). The flap actually needs to be raised a little (wing is vertical in the jig) to make the flap parallel to the top skin rivets. Then, the bolt holes don't line up. Bummer! Has anbody else seen this and if you did, what did you do about it? Zack __________________________________________________


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    Time: 12:30:45 PM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: finishing kit ommisions
    Let's get a move on, Tim! The mob is outside your door, waiting! Wishing! Growing restless! John J 328 Tailcone do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: RE: TDT Panel? Was: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I've had a couple dummy units in for a fit check, but still need to finish some wiring to get to the point of firing up a real set. Should be soon, though . . . TDT 40025 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: Re: TDT Panel? Was: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions Hey Tim.. Have any pictures of big Avidyne screens in your panel yet? I sure wish I was able to get an Entegra setup without going through certified dealers. :) I absolutely love those screens. -Sean #40303 (Still closing up wings) On Jun 9, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: I bet if you scan the list, Tim O will be happy to post it on his website . . . TDT 40025 FF _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my finishing kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of the kit, so I knew what was there. As I want to leave my options open for a James cowl, I omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right inlets, oil door and core, and all the spinner parts (7 items). I also omitted the tires and tubes, as I like the leakguard tubes and better tires. If anyone wants the actual part numbers of the cowl / spinner parts to omit, I would be happy to fax the list, and save you and Vans the trouble. Chris Hukill completing Andair installation 702 591-7551 cel


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    Time: 12:44:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trailing Edges
    From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> Rick and Jay, Thanks for the replies. I just found out that I indeed have a "twisted" flap. You have to take great care when builing those long pieces. Inducing a twist or warp is very, very easy. My flaps are so bad (in my opinion) that I need to redo them. I will try drilling out the trailing edge rivets and use a heat gun to break the 2216 epoxy. If I booger it up, Vans will get more of my money! For the rest of you building the flaps, take great care to follow the instructions and make sure you have a flat table and weigh the flap down like the plans call for. Zack -------- RV8 #80125 RV10 # 40512 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=39638#39638


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    Time: 12:47:44 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Carey" <markacarey@msn.com>
    Subject: Door Handles
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Carey" <markacarey@msn.com> I am having difficulting getting my spring assisted door handles to move freely enough for the roller pins to slide into the slot on the doors. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations. I recall some earlier posts depicting alternate handles. When I flew the factory 10 the door latches clicked in real nice.


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    Time: 12:48:00 PM PST US
    Subject: finishing kit ommisions
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Patience must you have, if Jedi you will be! TDT ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: RE: TDT Panel? Was: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions Let's get a move on, Tim! The mob is outside your door, waiting! Wishing! Growing restless! John J 328 Tailcone do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: RE: TDT Panel? Was: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I've had a couple dummy units in for a fit check, but still need to finish some wiring to get to the point of firing up a real set. Should be soon, though . . . TDT 40025 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: Re: TDT Panel? Was: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions Hey Tim.. Have any pictures of big Avidyne screens in your panel yet? I sure wish I was able to get an Entegra setup without going through certified dealers. :) I absolutely love those screens. -Sean #40303 (Still closing up wings) On Jun 9, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: I bet if you scan the list, Tim O will be happy to post it on his website . . . TDT 40025 FF ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my finishing kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of the kit, so I knew what was there. As I want to leave my options open for a James cowl, I omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right inlets, oil door and core, and all the spinner parts (7 items). I also omitted the tires and tubes, as I like the leakguard tubes and better tires. If anyone wants the actual part numbers of the cowl / spinner parts to omit, I would be happy to fax the list, and save you and Vans the trouble. Chris Hukill completing Andair installation 702 591-7551 cel


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    Time: 01:10:25 PM PST US
    From: LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps
    In a message dated 6/9/2006 9:38:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, michael@wellenzohn.net writes: Thanks guys for your input! I'll continue drilling with a #40 once my compressor works again, need to fix it (what a waste of time). I found the air drill a pain to use. First there is the cord that seems to hook up on something and then there is that noisy compressor that keeps kicking in. I just purchased a Black and Decker, "firestorm" 14v cordless drill kit. It comes with 2 batteries, and a charger that will charge them both at once if needed. It also has a drill chuck that pops off and makes it an easy bit driver (important in FLA, since i just installed 93 hurricane panels with a bit driver). Since i switched to this life is easier... i was using a corded drill, still easier then the compressor. do not archive Steve Stephen Blank RV-10 Builder #40499 - Cessna 170B flyer 766 SE River Lane Port St. Lucie, FL 34983 Building the elevators. 772-475-5556 cell - evenings and weekends


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    Time: 01:11:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Door Handles
    From: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net> I had the same problem. I used a small file and emery cloth to open up the slots and smooth down all of the rough edges. Bad news is I had to disassemble the mechanism to correct the problem. Bobby 40116 (sanding and sanding and sanding) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Carey Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: RV10-List: Door Handles --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Carey" <markacarey@msn.com> I am having difficulting getting my spring assisted door handles to move freely enough for the roller pins to slide into the slot on the doors. Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations. I recall some earlier posts depicting alternate handles. When I flew the factory 10 the door latches clicked in real nice.


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    Time: 01:19:32 PM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: finishing kit ommisions
    Well, at least you didn't make some reference to a cricket, or was it a grasshopper....me, I'm only in it for the money. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 12:48 PM Subject: RE: TDT Panel? Was: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions Patience must you have, if Jedi you will be! TDT _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: RE: TDT Panel? Was: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions Let's get a move on, Tim! The mob is outside your door, waiting! Wishing! Growing restless! John J 328 Tailcone do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: RE: TDT Panel? Was: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I've had a couple dummy units in for a fit check, but still need to finish some wiring to get to the point of firing up a real set. Should be soon, though . . . TDT 40025 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:39 PM Subject: Re: TDT Panel? Was: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions Hey Tim.. Have any pictures of big Avidyne screens in your panel yet? I sure wish I was able to get an Entegra setup without going through certified dealers. :) I absolutely love those screens. -Sean #40303 (Still closing up wings) On Jun 9, 2006, at 9:15 AM, Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: I bet if you scan the list, Tim O will be happy to post it on his website . . . TDT 40025 FF _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my finishing kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of the kit, so I knew what was there. As I want to leave my options open for a James cowl, I omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right inlets, oil door and core, and all the spinner parts (7 items). I also omitted the tires and tubes, as I like the leakguard tubes and better tires. If anyone wants the actual part numbers of the cowl / spinner parts to omit, I would be happy to fax the list, and save you and Vans the trouble. Chris Hukill completing Andair installation 702 591-7551 cel


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    Time: 01:23:29 PM PST US
    From: rv10builder <rv10builder@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: PP alternator
    --> RV10-List message posted by: rv10builder <rv10builder@bellsouth.net> I had no idea Van's was offering the Plane Power alternator until I called to order my FF kit and asked to drop the "standard" from the kit. That's when they asked me if I had heard of PP and turns out that is exactly what I wanted anyway. FWIW - the installation sheet that came with my unit says it's p/n 99-9900 and the drawing lists AL 12-EI60/B. Hope that helps... Brian 40308 Canopy www.mykitlog.com/rv10builder Robert G. Wright wrote: > Ive heard that Vans is now selling PlanePowers alternators, but > cant make heads or tails of the vans online catalog. Anyone know if > and then which models Vans is selling? > > Rob Wright >


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    Time: 01:48:25 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Door Handles
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I think you just need to make sure that any burrs are gone, and you have the slots filed in nicely. It took a little playing to clean it up well, but then it worked great. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Mark Carey wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Carey" <markacarey@msn.com> > > I am having difficulting getting my spring assisted door handles to move > freely enough for the roller pins to slide into the slot on the doors. > Does anyone have any suggestions or recommendations. I recall some > earlier posts depicting alternate handles. When I flew the factory 10 > the door latches clicked in real nice. > > >


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    Time: 01:48:50 PM PST US
    Subject: finishing kit ommisions
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    It's the 260HP Lycoming IO-540 "experimental" engine. No real mods to it other than 9-1 pistons and Allen's cold air induction. Don't forget Lycoming offers a, more expensive and heavier, cold air induction so this really isn't anything out of the ordinary. The "I" in IO-540 means it is fuel injected. I will have the Airflow Performance FMS-300 injector system and dual Lightspeed III electronic ignition which are also very popular in the experimental world. Will James is making two different cowls for the RV-10. One fits the stock 540 and the other fits the 540 with the cold air induction. They both will fit on injected engines but the plenum may need a tiny bump in the top for the AFP purge valve. VNE isn't an issue for me. For one I am probably going to do a three blade MT prop and for two I have the go fast/slow knob to keep me from breaking the speed of light. As for HP, we will see. I seriously doubt it will be anywhere close to 300HP. Especially with the chastising Allen give's me about using dual LSE III ignitions. He sees better HP out of mags on the dyno. :-) Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Ekberg Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 1:29 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions Is that a 300hp engine? Is that fuel injected? Can you use that cowling with fuel injection? Are you concerned with exceeding Van's Vne at altitude? Sorry for all the questions, just trying to learn. --- Eric Ekberg RV-10 583 - Empennage On 6/9/06, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <rvbuilder@sausen.net> wrote: Here is the IO-540 & Finish kit contents. I don't have the stuff crossed out but it is basically what Chris listed below. I plan on putting together a list of exclusion items based on my engine config once I get to that point. My engine is the BPA IO-540-X with the cold air induction. I will be using the special James cowl (for the cold air induction) and also their plenum. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com <mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com> ] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:16 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I bet if you scan the list, Tim O will be happy to post it on his website . . . TDT 40025 FF ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hukill Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: RV10-List: finishing kit ommisions I just sent Barb at Vans a list of the items to omit from my finishing kit. I previously had her send me an inventory list of the kit, so I knew what was there. As I want to leave my options open for a James cowl, I omitted the cowl top, bottom, left/ right inlets, oil door and core, and all the spinner parts (7 items). I also omitted the tires and tubes, as I like the leakguard tubes and better tires. If anyone wants the actual part numbers of the cowl / spinner parts to omit, I would be happy to fax the list, and save you and Vans the trouble. Chris Hukill completing Andair installation 702 591-7551 cel


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    Time: 02:20:26 PM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: finishing kit ommisions
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    Time: 02:27:14 PM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: James Aircraft 540 Plenum
    Looks like a lot of work. Have fun, and make sure to let us know how much work it is to get it fit, on and sealed. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: James Aircraft 540 Plenum Sam sent me my plenum this week and I thought some of you might want a peek. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive HYPERLINK "http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22"Recent RV-10 Build Activity -- --


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    Time: 02:33:18 PM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps
    Are you serious? You are toting around a heavy cordless drill, worrying about keeping batteries charged, and turning slowly while building an airplane that has about 50,000 holes to drill? I really hope I am missing something here. Yeah, the air hose can be a pain, but it is a lot easier than toting around a backpack compressor. You would have to pry my air drill out of my=85well, you know how that goes. Anyway, I hope you really aren=92t building an airplane with a cordless drill. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LIKE2LOOP@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 4:09 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps In a message dated 6/9/2006 9:38:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, michael@wellenzohn.net writes: Thanks guys for your input! I'll continue drilling with a #40 once my compressor works again, need to fix it (what a waste of time). I found the air drill a pain to use. First there is the cord that seems to hook up on something and then there is that noisy compressor that keeps kicking in. I just purchased a Black and Decker, "firestorm" 14v cordless drill kit. It comes with 2 batteries, and a charger that will charge them both at once if needed. It also has a drill chuck that pops off and makes it an easy bit driver (important in FLA, since i just installed 93 hurricane panels with a bit driver). Since i switched to this life is easier... i was using a corded drill, still easier then the compressor. do not archive Steve Stephen Blank RV-10 Builder #40499 - Cessna 170B flyer 766 SE River Lane Port St. Lucie, FL 34983 Building the elevators. 772-475-5556 cell - evenings and weekends -- --


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    Time: 03:02:12 PM PST US
    From: "Dean Van Winkle" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
    Subject: dELETE
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Dean Van Winkle" <dvanwinkle@royell.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Trailing Edges > --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> > > Rick and Jay, > > Thanks for the replies. I just found out that I indeed have a > "twisted" flap. You have to take great care when builing those long > pieces. Inducing a twist or warp is very, very easy. > > My flaps are so bad (in my opinion) that I need to redo them. I will > try drilling out the trailing edge rivets and use a heat gun to break the > 2216 epoxy. If I booger it up, Vans will get more of my money! > > For the rest of you building the flaps, take great care to follow the > instructions and make sure you have a flat table and weigh the flap down > like the plans call for. > > Zack > > -------- > RV8 #80125 > RV10 # 40512 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=39638#39638 > > >


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    Time: 03:22:04 PM PST US
    From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps
    most cordless drills will not give the speed needed for drilling alloy! Refer to Vans notes on this. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Saint To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:32 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps Are you serious? You are toting around a heavy cordless drill, worrying about keeping batteries charged, and turning slowly while building an airplane that has about 50,000 holes to drill? I really hope I am missing something here. Yeah, the air hose can be a pain, but it is a lot easier than toting around a backpack compressor. You would have to pry my air drill out of my=85well, you know how that goes. Anyway, I hope you really aren=92t building an airplane with a cordless drill. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LIKE2LOOP@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 4:09 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps In a message dated 6/9/2006 9:38:32 AM Eastern Standard Time, michael@wellenzohn.net writes: Thanks guys for your input! I'll continue drilling with a #40 once my compressor works again, need to fix it (what a waste of time). I found the air drill a pain to use. First there is the cord that seems to hook up on something and then there is that noisy compressor that keeps kicking in. I just purchased a Black and Decker, "firestorm" 14v cordless drill kit. It comes with 2 batteries, and a charger that will charge them both at once if needed. It also has a drill chuck that pops off and makes it an easy bit driver (important in FLA, since i just installed 93 hurricane panels with a bit driver). Since i switched to this life is easier... i was using a corded drill, still easier then the compressor. do not archive Steve Stephen Blank RV-10 Builder #40499 - Cessna 170B flyer 766 SE River Lane Port St. Lucie, FL 34983 Building the elevators. 772-475-5556 cell - evenings and weekends -- 6/8/2006 -- 6/8/2006


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    Time: 03:33:50 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: James Aircraft 540 Plenum
    Michael, The plenum looks fantastic. It's probably been on the list before, but would you mind sharing the price? Also, please advise how good the fit is and what you needed to do to install. It looks very promising and probably will seal a lot better than my current setup. Thanks, Marcus Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 2:03 PM Subject: RV10-List: James Aircraft 540 Plenum Sam sent me my plenum this week and I thought some of you might want a peek. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> Recent RV-10 Build Activity


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    Time: 04:33:12 PM PST US
    From: <gorejr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: James Aircraft 540 Plenum
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <gorejr@bellsouth.net> Make sure you let us know how it fits and performance. Is he going to make a cowl for cold air induction with a larger opening in the bottom of the cowl? JJR > > From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> > Date: 2006/06/09 Fri PM 02:03:03 EDT > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV10-List: James Aircraft 540 Plenum > > Sam sent me my plenum this week and I thought some of you might want a peek. > > > Michael Sausen > > RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage > > Do Not Archive > > Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> > > > >


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    Time: 04:57:38 PM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: James Aircraft 540 Plenum
    Does anybody know it this plenum will fit the Van's cowl? It looks like it should, although the intakes would require some glass work. The top looks like it would fit. It would be nice to have a plenum made for the Van's cowl if this one won't do it. By the way, the Mattituck TMXIO-540 arrived today. It's a good looking engine and hopefully even better running. You'll notice the oil filter adapter is not straight back, which should make working with it much easier. The other one is a pain, and there is no way to get a torque wrench on it without a long wrench/lever on it, which adds all kinds of fancy calculations into the mix, of course. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gorejr@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: James Aircraft 540 Plenum --> RV10-List message posted by: <gorejr@bellsouth.net> Make sure you let us know how it fits and performance. Is he going to make a cowl for cold air induction with a larger opening in the bottom of the cowl? JJR > > From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> > Date: 2006/06/09 Fri PM 02:03:03 EDT > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV10-List: James Aircraft 540 Plenum > > Sam sent me my plenum this week and I thought some of you might want a peek. > > > Michael Sausen > > RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage > > Do Not Archive > > Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> > > > > -- --


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    Time: 06:25:28 PM PST US
    Subject: James Aircraft 540 Plenum
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    I believe it's supposed to. But as you stated it will require a little work around the intakes. The plenum is more efficient so it doesn't need as large of an cooling intake. This was one of the big advantages in speed that his cowl and plenum combination have made in the past. Give Sam a call directly and he will be happy to chat with about it. The price is $450. There are some pictures of the stock engine cowl on his website under "projects" I know he made changes for the Cold Air but haven't seen them yet. He is supposed to have a cowl at Barrett's booth in OSH. www.jamesaircraft.com Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: James Aircraft 540 Plenum Does anybody know it this plenum will fit the Van's cowl? It looks like it should, although the intakes would require some glass work. The top looks like it would fit. It would be nice to have a plenum made for the Van's cowl if this one won't do it. By the way, the Mattituck TMXIO-540 arrived today. It's a good looking engine and hopefully even better running. You'll notice the oil filter adapter is not straight back, which should make working with it much easier. The other one is a pain, and there is no way to get a torque wrench on it without a long wrench/lever on it, which adds all kinds of fancy calculations into the mix, of course. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gorejr@bellsouth.net Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 7:30 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: James Aircraft 540 Plenum --> RV10-List message posted by: <gorejr@bellsouth.net> Make sure you let us know how it fits and performance. Is he going to make a cowl for cold air induction with a larger opening in the bottom of the cowl? JJR > > From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> > Date: 2006/06/09 Fri PM 02:03:03 EDT > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RV10-List: James Aircraft 540 Plenum > > Sam sent me my plenum this week and I thought some of you might want a peek. > > > Michael Sausen > > RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage > > Do Not Archive > > Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> > > > > -- --


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    Time: 08:02:57 PM PST US
    From: LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
    Subject: Re: air drills vs cordless
    In a message dated 6/9/06 5:38:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jesse@itecusa.org writes: You are toting around a heavy cordless drill, worrying about keeping batteries charged, YES i am!!! It has great low speed control and far better torque at the high end. The batteries are not an issue... they go for days and there is a second one that comes in the kit. This is NOT a $15 cordless screwdriver. I still have my air drill... just waiting to see if i really need it again..... PS - As a dentist, i made the jump from the old air drills at the dental office to electric high speeds! Patients have noticed that they are quieter and smoother running. Much better balance, quieter, and tons of torque. Yes, they are heavier then the air units, but it is NOT a big deal. I can even set the speed with much more precision vs the air units, that were almost all or none. do not archive. Steve Stephen Blank RV-10 Builder #40499 / C-170B flyer 766 SE River Lane Port St. Lucie, FL 34983 772-475-5556 cell


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    Time: 08:02:57 PM PST US
    From: LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
    Subject: Re: 3/32 match drilling HS Spar & Spar caps
    In a message dated 6/9/06 5:38:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jesse@itecusa.org writes: You are toting around a heavy cordless drill, worrying about keeping batteries charged,


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    Time: 08:28:02 PM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Re: air drills vs cordless
    I am not arguing the value of air drills vs. electric drills. I=92m just arguing the point as it applies to building airplanes. If you are happy with yours, that=92s great. I wouldn=92t use an electric slow drill (comparing your electric highspeed handpieces to turbine handpieces isn=92t apples to apples. You would have to compare a 300,000 air handpiece to a 25,000 electric. Yes, the electric would have more torque, but it would take a lot longer to get through enamel. I=92m not a dentist, but I do make handpieces.) for final-drilling my skins with the substructure because it would just be too slow. With the air drill you barely touch the hole and it=92s drilled, which is where the weight really makes a difference. Size also makes a difference in tight places, where the 5/8=94 or so from the center of the bit to the edge of the drill allows you to drill holes with a normal bit that you otherwise may need a long bit for, or an angle drill. There is also the issue that someone mentioned of drilling aluminum slowly. I understand that Steel drills better when you are going slow, but aluminum seems to drill a lot easier when you are fast. If you like your battery drill, more power to you, and more power to your arm from the exercise. Enjoy! Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LIKE2LOOP@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:00 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: air drills vs cordless In a message dated 6/9/06 5:38:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jesse@itecusa.org writes: You are toting around a heavy cordless drill, worrying about keeping batteries charged, YES i am!!! It has great low speed control and far better torque at the high end. The batteries are not an issue... they go for days and there is a second one that comes in the kit. This is NOT a $15 cordless screwdriver. I still have my air drill... just waiting to see if i really need it again..... PS - As a dentist, i made the jump from the old air drills at the dental office to electric high speeds! Patients have noticed that they are quieter and smoother running. Much better balance, quieter, and tons of torque. Yes, they are heavier then the air units, but it is NOT a big deal. I can even set the speed with much more precision vs the air units, that were almost all or none. do not archive. Steve Stephen Blank RV-10 Builder #40499 / C-170B flyer 766 SE River Lane Port St. Lucie, FL 34983 772-475-5556 cell -- --




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