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1. 03:42 AM - Re: New Proseal from Vans (Roy@Debbie)
2. 06:51 AM - Re: Prop Governor / Quadrant Cable Length (Tom Deutsch)
3. 07:44 AM - Re: New Proseal from Vans (Lockamy, Jack L)
4. 08:46 AM - SIKAFLEX WINDSCREEN (brian bollaert)
5. 10:23 AM - A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL (Garey Wittich)
6. 10:36 AM - Re: Hot Tunnel suggestion (Tim Olson)
7. 10:37 AM - Re: Prop Governor / Quadrant Cable Length (Tim Olson)
8. 05:34 PM - Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL (Deems Davis)
9. 05:43 PM - Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL (Konrad L. Werner)
10. 06:04 PM - Parts Priming & Corrosion (RobHickman@aol.com)
11. 06:16 PM - Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL (John W. Cox)
12. 06:27 PM - Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
13. 06:44 PM - Re: Parts Priming & Corrosion (John W. Cox)
14. 06:48 PM - Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
15. 06:56 PM - Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL (Michael Schipper)
16. 07:21 PM - Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL (John W. Cox)
17. 08:23 PM - Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL (Michael Schipper)
18. 08:47 PM - Re: Parts Priming and random thoughts.. (Steven DiNieri)
19. 09:18 PM - Re: Parts Priming & Corrosion (Dave Saylor)
20. 10:33 PM - Re: Prop Governor / Quadrant Cable Length (DejaVu)
21. 11:05 PM - Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL (Paul Walter)
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| From: | "Roy@Debbie" <roy.debbie@cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: New Proseal from Vans |
I used J B Weld on my rudder and it didn't hold despite roughing the
surface with steel wool then cleaning with acetone before clecoing
together.
----- Original Message -----
From: LIKE2LOOP@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: New Proseal from Vans
In a message dated 6/26/2006 11:43:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mdoyle2@gmail.com writes:
I used an inexpensive caulking gun.
I did the same and my caulk gun fit in the new self mixing
cartridge with no adjustments needed. There was nothing on the back end
to clean up. I found a HUGE amount of waste doing the rudder this way,
as the entire tube gets mixed and then you only use a little.
Is there a suitable substitute, like JB Weld for the elevators and
other parts that use proseal??? I dont want to use anything that would
cause corrosion for the trailing edge pieces.
For the fuel tank i will stick with the Proseal, and would expect to
finish a tube or two.
Steve
Stephen Blank RV-10 Builder #40499 / Cessna 170B flyer
766 SE River Lane
Port St. Lucie, FL 34983
772-475-5556 cell - evenings and weekends
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| Subject: | Prop Governor / Quadrant Cable Length |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tom Deutsch" <deutscht@rhwhotels.com>
My cable is labeled 70.5" still in the box. Also the parts list with
the quadrant lists it also at 70.5". Is this a problem with others?
Tom Deutsch
Office 913 451-1222
Fax 913 451-6493
Cell 913 908-7752
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:34 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Howdy all,
Anh Vu asked me to post this question today since he doesn't have
access at work...
His throttle quadrant type prop governor cable is coming up too short.
The plans say 72.5" for the governor cable, and this is indeed what
my parts list showed when I got my quadrant at about the same time
he did. I didn't have a problem, but his is too short.
To make matters worse, when he calls Van's, they're telling him that
the longest cables they sell are 70.5", not 72.5". So there
definitely must be some discrepancy somewhere...since that would mean
that either the cable or plans are wrong.
I can't measure mine right now, at least not accurately and timely.
Is there someone with a quadrant installed (or even not installed)
who can verify the length of cable they got? It should list it
on the sticker. Ideally, someone can reply who has the quadrant
installed, and can still both read the sticker and measure the
cable. He'd really appreciate it.
Tim
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Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | New Proseal from Vans |
I recommend 3M Marine Adhesive 5200 Fast Cure (2 hrs). It is white and
only approx. $6 for an 8-ounce tube. Should be enough for all the
trailing edges of the rudder and control surfaces, NACA vents, etc. You
can also store the unused portion in the fridge and it will keep almost
indefinitely.
This is STRONG stuff. Once it sets, you will have to grind it off or
use a chisel to break the bond. The 3M 5200 also comes in a 24 HR
version for a slower cure. Find it at any good hardware store or Marine
parts store.
Jack
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Roy@Debbie
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:37
I used J B Weld on my rudder and it didn't hold despite roughing the
surface with steel wool then cleaning with acetone before clecoing
together.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:05 PM
In a message dated 6/26/2006 11:43:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mdoyle2@gmail.com writes:
I used an inexpensive caulking gun.
I did the same and my caulk gun fit in the new self mixing cartridge
with no adjustments needed. There was nothing on the back end to clean
up. I found a HUGE amount of waste doing the rudder this way, as the
entire tube gets mixed and then you only use a little.
Is there a suitable substitute, like JB Weld for the elevators and
other parts that use proseal??? I dont want to use anything that would
cause corrosion for the trailing edge pieces.
For the fuel tank i will stick with the Proseal, and would expect to
finish a tube or two.
Steve
Stephen Blank RV-10 Builder #40499 / Cessna 170B flyer
766 SE River Lane
Port St. Lucie, FL 34983
772-475-5556 cell - evenings and weekends
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| Subject: | SIKAFLEX WINDSCREEN |
For those thinking of using an alternative for the windscreen , someone
mentioned Sikaflex -252 , i called the company tech line and they only
reccomend there -295 UV product
http://www.sikaindustry.com/ind/ipd-marine/ipd-ma-products.htm
along with the 226 cleaner
http://www.sikaindustry.com/ipd-marine-surface-primerchart & 209 primer
, this is what i think that i will use (very important to use the
correct one and prepare the surfaces ).
Brian Bollaert
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| Subject: | A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000@yahoo.com>
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| Subject: | Re: Hot Tunnel suggestion |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
With all the tunnel heat discussions lately, I thought I
would write something up, and I incorporated some of Dean's
stuff, along with a nice drawing Bob Condrey sent me, and some photos
I snagged from Scott's Schmidt. It may be a good read for those
of you who are overly concerned as to the whole "Hot Tunnel"
issue.
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/mods/HotTunnel/index.html
Sorry I haven't been keeping up on the tips as much as I wanted,
but this one is a good one, IMHO.
Tim - N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governor / Quadrant Cable Length |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Update on this cable prob.... Thanks for checking, Tom, but this a.m.
I got an email from Anh who admitted it was "operator error". There
is still a discrepancy as to why the plans say 72.5" and the cable is
70.5, but apparently Van's right that they only have 70.5 and that would
be useable. Anh has it working now. Sorry for the concern caused.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Tom Deutsch wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tom Deutsch" <deutscht@rhwhotels.com>
>
> My cable is labeled 70.5" still in the box. Also the parts list with
> the quadrant lists it also at 70.5". Is this a problem with others?
>
> Tom Deutsch
>
> Office 913 451-1222
> Fax 913 451-6493
> Cell 913 908-7752
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:34 PM
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Howdy all,
>
> Anh Vu asked me to post this question today since he doesn't have
> access at work...
>
> His throttle quadrant type prop governor cable is coming up too short.
> The plans say 72.5" for the governor cable, and this is indeed what
> my parts list showed when I got my quadrant at about the same time
> he did. I didn't have a problem, but his is too short.
>
> To make matters worse, when he calls Van's, they're telling him that
> the longest cables they sell are 70.5", not 72.5". So there
> definitely must be some discrepancy somewhere...since that would mean
> that either the cable or plans are wrong.
>
> I can't measure mine right now, at least not accurately and timely.
>
> Is there someone with a quadrant installed (or even not installed)
> who can verify the length of cable they got? It should list it
> on the sticker. Ideally, someone can reply who has the quadrant
> installed, and can still both read the sticker and measure the
> cable. He'd really appreciate it.
>
> Tim
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| Subject: | Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Garey Wittich wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000@yahoo.com>
>
>THIS IS NOT "SPAM", but comes from 600+ hours of
>research I did while building my RV-8A.
>
>
>
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a Duck!
Do not archive
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL |
Who's up for a DUCK HUNT ! Bring yer shotgun & some beer!
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----- Original Message -----
From: Deems Davis
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION
CONTROL
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Garey Wittich wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Garey Wittich
<gareywittich2000@yahoo.com>
>
>THIS IS NOT "SPAM", but comes from 600+ hours of
>research I did while building my RV-8A.
>
>
>
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a Duck!
Do not archive
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Parts Priming & Corrosion |
On my RV-4 I spent a HUGE amount of time acid washing, alodining, and epoxy
priming every single part. On the RV-10 I have been using self etching
primer to help reduce the work.
We just bought a 1947 Cessna 140 for the kids to lean to fly and I was
installing shoulder belts in it this weekend. We had the head liner, carpet,
seats, ..... out of it.
There is no primer on any of the Aluminum anywhere and there is absolutely
no corrosion on it, yes in over 59 years!
I think I should immediately take it apart and prime it before it starts to
fall apart J
Rob Hickman
N401RH RV-4
N1877V C-140
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| Subject: | A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Maybe I should buy a copy of this duck, convert it to PDF and send it to
Tim for the RV University library. What say the masses? Has someone
already contributed to Garey's retirement fund in the Bahamas?
I am at over 4,000 hours of research and wouldn't consider charging for
personal opinion, even when backed by actual documentation and life
experience.
John - $00.02
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 5:32 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Garey Wittich wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Garey Wittich
<gareywittich2000@yahoo.com>
>
>THIS IS NOT "SPAM", but comes from 600+ hours of
>research I did while building my RV-8A.
>
>
>
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a Duck!
Do not archive
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL |
If it isn't copyrighted, then go for it!!
grumpy #40404
In a message dated 6/27/2006 8:17:45 PM Central Standard Time,
johnwcox@pacificnw.com writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Maybe I should buy a copy of this duck, convert it to PDF and send it to
Tim for the RV University library. What say the masses? Has someone
already contributed to Garey's retirement fund in the Bahamas?
I am at over 4,000 hours of research and wouldn't consider charging for
personal opinion, even when backed by actual documentation and life
experience.
John - $00.02
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| Subject: | Parts Priming & Corrosion |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
I opened a friends 1986 C-182 and found widespread but light corrosion
all over the inside of the empennage. It was sold by Aurora Aviation as
"Always hangared". The logbooks showed 20 years on the New England
seacoast. The only areas which escaped pitting were alodined and primed
for use on amphibs. Seems Cessna was clearing out inventory in the late
80's as they shutdown GA production around that time.
I have painted numerous C150s and C172 which had exfoliation and
filiform corrosion from being left out in KS overnight before final
topcoat the next day. That acid rain can be a bitch.
In your case Rob, I think you got a true Hangar Queen. Congrats.
John - KUAO
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-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
RobHickman@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:03 PM
On my RV-4 I spent a HUGE amount of time acid washing, alodining, and
epoxy priming every single part. On the RV-10 I have been using self
etching primer to help reduce the work.
We just bought a 1947 Cessna 140 for the kids to lean to fly and I was
installing shoulder belts in it this weekend. We had the head liner,
carpet, seats, ..... out of it.
There is no primer on any of the Aluminum anywhere and there is
absolutely no corrosion on it, yes in over 59 years!
I think I should immediately take it apart and prime it before it starts
to fall apart J
Rob Hickman
N401RH RV-4
N1877V C-140
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| Subject: | A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
I know what you mean. I had some a$$ selling a "book" on eBay that
purported to give you all kinds of information on different types of,
and how to build your own, hanger door. His "book" ended up being a
bunch of links to some of the common door manufacturer's websites and an
ad for his design business. At least he honored his 100% satisfaction
guarantee. It was called something like Hanger Door $ecrets and was a
PDF. Ya get what you pay for.
However I can recommend the Paintucation video series. Fairly well
done for low budget.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
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-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:16 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Maybe I should buy a copy of this duck, convert it to PDF and send it to
Tim for the RV University library. What say the masses? Has someone
already contributed to Garey's retirement fund in the Bahamas?
I am at over 4,000 hours of research and wouldn't consider charging for
personal opinion, even when backed by actual documentation and life
experience.
John - $00.02
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 5:32 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Garey Wittich wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Garey Wittich
<gareywittich2000@yahoo.com>
>
>THIS IS NOT "SPAM", but comes from 600+ hours of research I did while
>building my RV-8A.
>
>
>
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a Duck!
Do not archive
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Schipper <mike@learningplanet.com>
Here's a painting tip and you can have it for free:
Finish the plane and then take it to a respected paint shop to have
it professionally painted. That's what I did on my RV-9A and it was
worth every penny.
Regards,
Mike Schipper
RV-10 #576 - Empennage (www.rvten.com)
RV-9A - N63MS - Flying (www.my9a.com)
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| Subject: | A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
That's a beautiful paint scheme on the 9A. What paint was used and are
you willing to state how much it cost?
John Cox - KUAO
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Schipper
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:56 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Schipper
<mike@learningplanet.com>
Here's a painting tip and you can have it for free:
Finish the plane and then take it to a respected paint shop to have
it professionally painted. That's what I did on my RV-9A and it was
worth every penny.
Regards,
Mike Schipper
RV-10 #576 - Empennage (www.rvten.com)
RV-9A - N63MS - Flying (www.my9a.com)
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| Subject: | Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Schipper <mike@learningplanet.com>
It's JetGlo. The total was around $6200. I think the -10 will be
somewhat higher.
Mike
On Jun 27, 2006, at 9:20 PM, John W. Cox wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox"
> <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>
> That's a beautiful paint scheme on the 9A. What paint was used and
> are
> you willing to state how much it cost?
>
> John Cox - KUAO
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
> Schipper
> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:56 PM
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Schipper
> <mike@learningplanet.com>
>
> Here's a painting tip and you can have it for free:
>
> Finish the plane and then take it to a respected paint shop to have
> it professionally painted. That's what I did on my RV-9A and it was
> worth every penny.
>
> Regards,
> Mike Schipper
>
> RV-10 #576 - Empennage (www.rvten.com)
> RV-9A - N63MS - Flying (www.my9a.com)
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Parts Priming and random thoughts.. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@adelphia.net>
In 2001 Before I built my first rv, I restored a 1962 Cherokee 160. New
interior, windshield, exterior paint, upholstery, dash goodies,etc..... the
step had some exterior corrosion, but the inside was just beautiful, no
signs of any corrosion (exception was the battery case). Now this was no
hangar queen. It was outside when I bought it. The thing that really
surprised me was the lack of deburring. The stringers and ribs were razor
sharp with cut marks everywhere. Also tons of buggered rivets. It never fell
out of the sky and passed every inspection....seeing this in a production
aircraft helped put things in perspective when I would agonize over a not so
perfect rivet in my RV. Also I never got too crazy with priming, just kept
it to mating surfaces between parts. How long has alclad been around??? Is
it possible the Cherokee had alclad? I'd be happy with 40 years......
Steven dinieri
40205
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Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 9:43 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
I opened a friends 1986 C-182 and found widespread but light corrosion
all over the inside of the empennage. It was sold by Aurora Aviation as
"Always hangared". The logbooks showed 20 years on the New England
seacoast. The only areas which escaped pitting were alodined and primed
for use on amphibs. Seems Cessna was clearing out inventory in the late
80's as they shutdown GA production around that time.
I have painted numerous C150s and C172 which had exfoliation and
filiform corrosion from being left out in KS overnight before final
topcoat the next day. That acid rain can be a bitch.
In your case Rob, I think you got a true Hangar Queen. Congrats.
John - KUAO
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
RobHickman@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:03 PM
On my RV-4 I spent a HUGE amount of time acid washing, alodining, and
epoxy priming every single part. On the RV-10 I have been using self
etching primer to help reduce the work.
We just bought a 1947 Cessna 140 for the kids to lean to fly and I was
installing shoulder belts in it this weekend. We had the head liner,
carpet, seats, ..... out of it.
There is no primer on any of the Aluminum anywhere and there is
absolutely no corrosion on it, yes in over 59 years!
I think I should immediately take it apart and prime it before it starts
to fall apart J
Rob Hickman
N401RH RV-4
N1877V C-140
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| Subject: | Parts Priming & Corrosion |
Get on that primer! At this rate you've only got 70 or 80 useful years
left.
I wanted to avoid priming so I had my local paint shop alodine my entire
empenage after it was done. It has a nice gold finish now and I expect it
will hold up pretty well. Cost about $250 and took one day.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
40394 Doors and Windows
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RobHickman@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:03 PM
On my RV-4 I spent a HUGE amount of time acid washing, alodining, and epoxy
priming every single part. On the RV-10 I have been using self etching
primer to help reduce the work.
We just bought a 1947 Cessna 140 for the kids to lean to fly and I was
installing shoulder belts in it this weekend. We had the head liner,
carpet, seats, ..... out of it.
There is no primer on any of the Aluminum anywhere and there is absolutely
no corrosion on it, yes in over 59 years!
I think I should immediately take it apart and prime it before it starts to
fall apart J
Rob Hickman
N401RH RV-4
N1877V C-140
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| Subject: | Re: Prop Governor / Quadrant Cable Length |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
The plans are not very clear. They show P/N CT-VPROP-BLUE on page FF3-1,
which is the Venere (sp) cable with the blue knob to be used without the
throttle quadrant. This cable is 72.5". If you have a quadrant, the P/N is
CT-Q70.5, and it should come with its own instructions. There they simply
label each of the cables accordingly (throttle, prop, mixture) with "see
NOTE 1" under each lable. NOTE 1 says "part not included in fuselage kit".
Anh
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Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 1:37 PM
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
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> Update on this cable prob.... Thanks for checking, Tom, but this a.m.
> I got an email from Anh who admitted it was "operator error". There
> is still a discrepancy as to why the plans say 72.5" and the cable is
> 70.5, but apparently Van's right that they only have 70.5 and that would
> be useable. Anh has it working now. Sorry for the concern caused.
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> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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> Tom Deutsch wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tom Deutsch" <deutscht@rhwhotels.com>
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>> My cable is labeled 70.5" still in the box. Also the parts list with
>> the quadrant lists it also at 70.5". Is this a problem with others?
>>
>> Tom Deutsch
>> Office 913 451-1222
>> Fax 913 451-6493
>> Cell 913 908-7752
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>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 2:34 PM
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>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
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>> Howdy all,
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>> Anh Vu asked me to post this question today since he doesn't have
>> access at work...
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>> His throttle quadrant type prop governor cable is coming up too short.
>> The plans say 72.5" for the governor cable, and this is indeed what
>> my parts list showed when I got my quadrant at about the same time
>> he did. I didn't have a problem, but his is too short.
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>> To make matters worse, when he calls Van's, they're telling him that
>> the longest cables they sell are 70.5", not 72.5". So there
>> definitely must be some discrepancy somewhere...since that would mean
>> that either the cable or plans are wrong.
>>
>> I can't measure mine right now, at least not accurately and timely.
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>> Is there someone with a quadrant installed (or even not installed)
>> who can verify the length of cable they got? It should list it
>> on the sticker. Ideally, someone can reply who has the quadrant
>> installed, and can still both read the sticker and measure the
>> cable. He'd really appreciate it.
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>> Tim
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| Subject: | Re: A GUIDE TO AIRCRAFT PAINTING & CORROSION CONTROL |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Paul Walter" <pdwalter@bigpond.net.au>
Mike, do you have a photo for the group ?
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Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 1:18 PM
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Schipper
> <mike@learningplanet.com>
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> It's JetGlo. The total was around $6200. I think the -10 will be somewhat
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> On Jun 27, 2006, at 9:20 PM, John W. Cox wrote:
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>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
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>> That's a beautiful paint scheme on the 9A. What paint was used and are
>> you willing to state how much it cost?
>>
>> John Cox - KUAO
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>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
>> Schipper
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:56 PM
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>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Michael Schipper
>> <mike@learningplanet.com>
>>
>> Here's a painting tip and you can have it for free:
>>
>> Finish the plane and then take it to a respected paint shop to have
>> it professionally painted. That's what I did on my RV-9A and it was
>> worth every penny.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mike Schipper
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>> RV-10 #576 - Empennage (www.rvten.com)
>> RV-9A - N63MS - Flying (www.my9a.com)
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