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1. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: New (sort of) Builder and Wing Build Questions (Robert G. Wright)
2. 10:13 AM - Re: Re: New (sort of) Builder and Wing Build Questions (dennis mangan)
3. 10:52 AM - Wheel Fairings Question for those who have completed these steps (Bobby J. Hughes)
4. 03:03 PM - Re: Wheel Fairings Question for those who have completed (Tim Olson)
5. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: New (sort of) Builder and Wing Build Questions (gengrumpy@aol.com)
6. 03:58 PM - Re: Flap position sensor (McGANN, Ron)
7. 05:27 PM - Re: Wheel Fairings Question for those who have completed (Bobby J. Hughes)
8. 06:35 PM - Re: Re: New (sort of) Builder and Wing Build Questions (John Testement)
9. 08:07 PM - Re: Wheel Fairings Question for those who have completed (Tim Olson)
10. 10:33 PM - Re: Flap position sensor (Chris , Susie Darcy)
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| Subject: | Re: New (sort of) Builder and Wing Build Questions |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
Drill the conduit holes before you assemble the wing skeleton! I at least
doubled the amount of time doing it on the QB wings. Just not enough easy
clearance for my tools.
Rob #392
QB Wings
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Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:53 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: "jchang10" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
Thanks everyone for the replies. It's amazing how much one can swing back
and forth on some of these options - hopefully, it's not just me! ;)
It looks like i'll be ordering the conduit from Van's. as far as i can see,
it looks like there is plenty of room to drill the conduit holes even after
the ribs are riveted.
I am going to have to think some more on the lights, but it sounds like i
have time.
Thanks again for the insights!
Jae
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| Subject: | Re: New (sort of) Builder and Wing Build Questions |
Drip irrigation tubing 5/8 makes excellent wire channel. it is smooth
inside and out and is extremely lite
Dennis Mangan
109DM
RV-6a
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert G. Wright<mailto:armywrights@adelphia.net>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 6:41 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: New (sort of) Builder and Wing Build
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright"
<armywrights@adelphia.net<mailto:armywrights@adelphia.net>>
Drill the conduit holes before you assemble the wing skeleton! I at
least
doubled the amount of time doing it on the QB wings. Just not enough
easy
clearance for my tools.
Rob #392
QB Wings
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Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:53 PM
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Thanks everyone for the replies. It's amazing how much one can swing
back
and forth on some of these options - hopefully, it's not just me! ;)
It looks like i'll be ordering the conduit from Van's. as far as i can
see,
it looks like there is plenty of room to drill the conduit holes even
after
the ribs are riveted.
I am going to have to think some more on the lights, but it sounds
like i
have time.
Thanks again for the insights!
Jae
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| Subject: | Wheel Fairings Question for those who have completed these |
steps
A question for those who have installed the Wheel Fairings. Is the
vertical line on the rear fairing marked in 48-2 fig 4 actually vertical
in flight attitude as referenced in 48-6 fig 2? Or is the top of the
vertical line actually kicked outboard at the top of the fairing in 48-6
fig 2?
48-5 fig3 and 48-7 fig1 seem to indicated it would be kicked outboard.
Thanks,
Bobby Hughes
40116
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| Subject: | Re: Wheel Fairings Question for those who have completed |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I think they're shooting for the fairings to be perfectly vertical
and straight ahead while in flight with the gear hanging.
Tim
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Bobby J. Hughes wrote:
> A question for those who have installed the Wheel Fairings. Is the
> vertical line on the rear fairing marked in 48-2 fig 4 actually vertical
> in flight attitude as referenced in 48-6 fig 2? Or is the top of the
> vertical line actually kicked outboard at the top of the fairing in 48-6
> fig 2?
>
> 48-5 fig3 and 48-7 fig1 seem to indicated it would be kicked outboard.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bobby Hughes
> 40116
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| Subject: | Re: New (sort of) Builder and Wing Build Questions |
You can also just lay in Van's conduit (or any other) in the "lightning" holes
and safety wire them to the bottom of the rib. Works like a champ.
Grumpy #40404
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Sent: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 08:41:13 -0500
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
Drill the conduit holes before you assemble the wing skeleton! I at least
doubled the amount of time doing it on the QB wings. Just not enough easy
clearance for my tools.
Rob #392
QB Wings
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jchang10
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:53 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: "jchang10" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
Thanks everyone for the replies. It's amazing how much one can swing back
and forth on some of these options - hopefully, it's not just me! ;)
It looks like i'll be ordering the conduit from Van's. as far as i can see,
it looks like there is plenty of room to drill the conduit holes even after
the ribs are riveted.
I am going to have to think some more on the lights, but it sounds like i
have time.
Thanks again for the insights!
Jae
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45641#45641
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| Subject: | Flap position sensor |
Chris - these are readily available from Dick Smith outlets. I soak
them in toluene to remove the adhesive and proseal them to the
skins/ribs/bulkheads. They ain't going anywhere.
cheers,
Ron
#187 wiring
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris , Susie
Darcy
Sent: Saturday, 8 July 2006 6:50 AM
Jim those stick on things that hold the wires ...what are they called as
I cant seem to find them out here in OZ
regards Chris
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 4:48 AM
Photos attached of my POS 12 mount. I used 2 pieces of .032 angle, one
screwed to the tunnel wall and one pop-riveted to the flap actuator. I
connected them with a piece of threated model aircraft pushrod with a
brass clevis on one end and a Z bend on the other.
You can also see the flap switch I installed for my Advanced Flight
Systems AOA Sport systems.
-Jim McGrew
40134
In a message dated 7/6/2006 9:42:21 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
rsipp@earthlink.net writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
I would like to hear from anyone who has mounted a Ray Allan flap
position
sensor (POS 12) on the flap system to drive a Ray Allan LED indicator.
A
picture or description of where and how you mounted it would be most
appreciated.
Thanks
Dick Sipp
40065
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| Subject: | Wheel Fairings Question for those who have completed |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>
Tim,
That is what I would expect but it is not working out that way for me.
For my vertical line to be straight it places the 1/2" hole for the leg
reference below where the legs actually contact the fairing. 3/4 to 1"
below. If I use the 1/2" reference hole the rear vertical line is kicked
outboard. Almost looks like if the weight was on the gear the vertical
line would kick in and become vertical. Other than this all the other
reference lines are ok.
Bobby
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 4:57 PM
completed
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I think they're shooting for the fairings to be perfectly vertical and
straight ahead while in flight with the gear hanging.
Tim
do not archive
Bobby J. Hughes wrote:
> A question for those who have installed the Wheel Fairings. Is the
> vertical line on the rear fairing marked in 48-2 fig 4 actually
> vertical in flight attitude as referenced in 48-6 fig 2? Or is the top
> of the vertical line actually kicked outboard at the top of the
> fairing in 48-6 fig 2?
>
> 48-5 fig3 and 48-7 fig1 seem to indicated it would be kicked outboard.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bobby Hughes
> 40116
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| Subject: | Re: New (sort of) Builder and Wing Build Questions |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Testement" <jwt@roadmapscoaching.com>
I drilled out the smaller holes along the rear spar to run my strobe wire -
and keep it away from the other wires in the conduit. This would have been
MUCH easier if the skin were not on yet.
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Engine mount and gear
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert G. Wright
Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 9:41 AM
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright"
--> <armywrights@adelphia.net>
Drill the conduit holes before you assemble the wing skeleton! I at least
doubled the amount of time doing it on the QB wings. Just not enough easy
clearance for my tools.
Rob #392
QB Wings
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jchang10
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:53 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: "jchang10"
--> <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
Thanks everyone for the replies. It's amazing how much one can swing back
and forth on some of these options - hopefully, it's not just me! ;)
It looks like i'll be ordering the conduit from Van's. as far as i can see,
it looks like there is plenty of room to drill the conduit holes even after
the ribs are riveted.
I am going to have to think some more on the lights, but it sounds like i
have time.
Thanks again for the insights!
Jae
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45641#45641
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| Subject: | Re: Wheel Fairings Question for those who have completed |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
It should be a matter of enlarging the gear leg hole, or moving
the brake bracket holes that hold the fairing. I know it's a
pain, but if you want them perfect and correct, you'll be adjusting
them a bit to make them vertical. I can remember making a couple
of statements when I got mine done....
*) The Wheel fairings are worse than doing the doors.
*) I REALLY don't like doing the wheel fairings
*) The wheel fairings really stink when you have to do them after you're
flying already.
My plane flew almost perfect with no rudder correction before I added
wheel fairings. I put the fairings on and they weren't aligned as
good as I wanted...they were toed out. I re-worked them to try to
correct it. Ended up still not perfect. Now the ball is something
like 1/2-3/4 out to the right when flying. Had to add a rudder
block for the time being.
So, my best advice is to look at what's going on, see if you can figure
out where to adjust, and then adjust as best you can, if you want the
plane to fly straight. Sadly, the leg fairing and gear fairings are
probably the most critical thing you have to having a straight flying
plane. On the mains, the outer hole where the axle shaft goes,
is kind of a fixed spot. That just means the innner mountings with
the 4 screws may need to be moved around a bit, and the hole enlarged
for the gear leg. To make you feel better, you can enlarge that center
hole for the gear leg quite a bit, because the fairing will cover
it all anyway.
Isn't the wheel fairing section fun? It was my least favorite
part of the build, and to this day is the one thing I wish I
had the motivation to re-do. For now, it's a rudder trim block.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Bobby J. Hughes wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>
>
> Tim,
>
> That is what I would expect but it is not working out that way for me.
> For my vertical line to be straight it places the 1/2" hole for the leg
> reference below where the legs actually contact the fairing. 3/4 to 1"
> below. If I use the 1/2" reference hole the rear vertical line is kicked
> outboard. Almost looks like if the weight was on the gear the vertical
> line would kick in and become vertical. Other than this all the other
> reference lines are ok.
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 4:57 PM
> completed
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I think they're shooting for the fairings to be perfectly vertical and
> straight ahead while in flight with the gear hanging.
>
> Tim
> do not archive
>
>
> Bobby J. Hughes wrote:
>> A question for those who have installed the Wheel Fairings. Is the
>> vertical line on the rear fairing marked in 48-2 fig 4 actually
>> vertical in flight attitude as referenced in 48-6 fig 2? Or is the top
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>> of the vertical line actually kicked outboard at the top of the
>> fairing in 48-6 fig 2?
>>
>> 48-5 fig3 and 48-7 fig1 seem to indicated it would be kicked outboard.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bobby Hughes
>> 40116
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| Subject: | Re: Flap position sensor |
Thanks Ron will have a look .
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: McGANN, Ron
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Flap position sensor
Chris - these are readily available from Dick Smith outlets. I soak
them in toluene to remove the adhesive and proseal them to the
skins/ribs/bulkheads. They ain't going anywhere.
cheers,
Ron
#187 wiring
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris , Susie
Darcy
Sent: Saturday, 8 July 2006 6:50 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flap position sensor
Jim those stick on things that hold the wires ...what are they
called as I cant seem to find them out here in OZ
regards Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: JSMcGrew@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 4:48 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flap position sensor
Photos attached of my POS 12 mount. I used 2 pieces of .032 angle,
one screwed to the tunnel wall and one pop-riveted to the flap actuator.
I connected them with a piece of threated model aircraft pushrod with a
brass clevis on one end and a Z bend on the other.
You can also see the flap switch I installed for my Advanced
Flight Systems AOA Sport systems.
-Jim McGrew
40134
In a message dated 7/6/2006 9:42:21 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
rsipp@earthlink.net writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp"
<rsipp@earthlink.net>
I would like to hear from anyone who has mounted a Ray Allan
flap position
sensor (POS 12) on the flap system to drive a Ray Allan LED
indicator. A
picture or description of where and how you mounted it would be
most
appreciated.
Thanks
Dick Sipp
40065
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