RV10-List Digest Archive

Wed 07/12/06


Total Messages Posted: 34



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     1. 07:28 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (James K Hovis)
     2. 08:12 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (John W. Cox)
     3. 08:16 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
     4. 08:26 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
     5. 08:27 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Camping (John W. Cox)
     6. 08:27 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (Jesse Saint)
     7. 08:27 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Camping (Jesse Saint)
     8. 08:31 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
     9. 08:43 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (Phillips, Jack)
    10. 09:04 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Camping (Tim Olson)
    11. 09:05 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (NYTerminat@aol.com)
    12. 09:15 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (Jesse Saint)
    13. 09:44 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (Brinker)
    14. 09:52 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Camping (Jesse Saint)
    15. 10:08 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    16. 10:08 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (Phillips, Jack)
    17. 10:27 AM - Re: Here I go again - console finished (Jim Szutowicz)
    18. 10:27 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (Belue, Kevin)
    19. 10:36 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    20. 10:46 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (Scott Schmidt)
    21. 10:54 AM - Re: Here I go again - console finished (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    22. 10:54 AM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 (Brinker)
    23. 11:19 AM - Re: Here I go again - console finished (Tim Olson)
    24. 01:38 PM - Subject please read (Chris , Susie Darcy)
    25. 01:43 PM - QB FUSE VANS (Chris , Susie Darcy)
    26. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 ()
    27. 02:44 PM - N-Number Reservations (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    28. 07:01 PM - Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Camping (bob.kaufmann)
    29. 07:47 PM - instrument sub-panel, fwd fuse and cabin cover questions (Deems Davis)
    30. 08:22 PM - RV-10 vs RV-9 or 7 or 6 build time (William DeLacey)
    31. 09:08 PM - Re: instrument sub-panel, fwd fuse and cabin cover questions (Tim Olson)
    32. 09:15 PM - Re: instrument sub-panel,long (Richard Sipp)
    33. 09:30 PM - Re: instrument sub-panel, fwd fuse and cabin cover questions (McGANN, Ron)
    34. 09:56 PM - Re: instrument sub-panel, fwd fuse and cabin cover questions (Bill DeRouchey)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:28:24 AM PST US
    From: "James K Hovis" <james.k.hovis@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    Speaking of OSH, if any flying RV-10's on the way to OSH and will be passing close by H-88, let me know. I'd love to take a look! I'll even offer lunch. And while I at it, are there any builders in eastern Missouri or within a couple hours of STL? On 7/11/06, Tim Dawson-Townsend <Tdawson@avidyne.com> wrote: > > > Registered can be a long way from flying . . . > > (Except in Doug Peterson's case!) > > TDT > do not archive > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Tue 7/11/2006 10:35 PM > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> > > John, > > Your not far off...I checked the FAA data base and there were 58 RV-10's > registered, I think, there were two pages of them, some may be waiting for a > DAR??? But none the less, almost 60 of them in the database. > > Rick S. > 40185 > > > =================================== > =================================== > =================================== > =================================== > >


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    Time: 08:12:39 AM PST US
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> No actually it is a two step process. My N number N49CX is reserved but you will not find it on the registry because I have not requested the Airworthiness Inspection yet. John -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sipp Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:56 PM --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net> You may well be right Rick, but also unless I am mistaken as soon as someone applies (not reserves) for the N number it goes on the registry. So there might be lots of folks who have applied for thier number but still have a ways to go before flight. When I built the 4 I had the number a year early. Dick Sipp 40065 110DV reserved top & wiring ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:35 PM > --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> > > John, > > Your not far off...I checked the FAA data base and there were 58 RV-10's > registered, I think, there were two pages of them, some may be waiting for > a DAR??? But none the less, almost 60 of them in the database. > > Rick S. > 40185 > > >


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    Time: 08:16:27 AM PST US
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    The Frappr! Map of RV-10s shows a number of builders in your area. http://www.frappr.com/rv10snorthamerica Bob #40105 _____ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James K Hovis Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 9:24 AM Speaking of OSH, if any flying RV-10's on the way to OSH and will be passing close by H-88, let me know. I'd love to take a look! I'll even offer lunch. And while I at it, are there any builders in eastern Missouri or within a couple hours of STL? On 7/11/06, Tim Dawson-Townsend <Tdawson@avidyne.com> wrote: Registered can be a long way from flying . . . (Except in Doug Peterson's case!) TDT do not archive -----Original Message----- Sent: Tue 7/11/2006 10:35 PM --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> John, Your not far off...I checked the FAA data base and there were 58 RV-10's registered, I think, there were two pages of them, some may be waiting for a DAR??? But none the less, almost 60 of them in the database. Rick S. 40185 ========================= ========== ========================= ========== ========================= ========== ========================= ==========


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    Time: 08:26:25 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com> It's a three-step process: 1) Reserve N-number. There airplane is not yet "registered", but the number is recorded in the "registry" as reserved. If fact, there may not even be an aircraft, it might just be someone hoarding numbers. 2) Register your aircraft. 3) Get your inspection. Don't wait until you're ready for an inspection to submit your registration, or you will be cooling your heels for 3-4 weeks while the FAA processes it. No inspection without an approved registration form in hand. TDT 40025 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:12 AM --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> No actually it is a two step process. My N number N49CX is reserved but you will not find it on the registry because I have not requested the Airworthiness Inspection yet. John -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sipp Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:56 PM --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net> You may well be right Rick, but also unless I am mistaken as soon as someone applies (not reserves) for the N number it goes on the registry. So there might be lots of folks who have applied for thier number but still have a ways to go before flight. When I built the 4 I had the number a year early. Dick Sipp 40065 110DV reserved top & wiring ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:35 PM > --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> > > John, > > Your not far off...I checked the FAA data base and there were 58 RV-10's > registered, I think, there were two pages of them, some may be waiting for > a DAR??? But none the less, almost 60 of them in the database. > > Rick S. > 40185 > > >


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    Time: 08:27:27 AM PST US
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Camping
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Clearly you missed the Microburst that hit last year on Monday Night around 7:50PM. John -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:03 PM Parking-Camping Geesh, I remember Oshkosh 2003, when the live weather datalink in our booth showed just bands of red and yellow all of the way across Wisconsin. Unfortunately, we were flying the rental Thunder Skyhawk, so our datalink consisted of flying 100 miles or so, landing, dashing in to the weather computer, then dashing back to the plane if our path looked good. Then that same weather from WI chased us all the way across New York. Foggy every morning, then the fog would burn off just in time for the thunder-boomers to start popping up. FUN! TDT do not archive -----Original Message----- Sent: Tue 7/11/2006 8:57 PM Parking-Camping --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I'll see if I can whip up some good T-Storms so you can see how well the WSI works. ;) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive John W. Cox wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" > --> <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > > Tim, thanks for the continueing hard work. First, when talking to Jeff > Point get to an agreement that unannounced RV-10 arrivals are not > going to be corralled with those who showed the courtesy of posting in > advance. Those in advance get better placement and the others go "At > Large". As a former producer of Air Shows the only thing more > disgusting are the guys who sneak in, say they are with a show to get > free fuel and bennies (never to have announced and never > participating). They should be in the general North 40 parking masses > and learn the value of the school bus shuttle. There is plenty of room > for every flying RV-10 but they should at least line up parking in advance. > > I am ready to eat my words, but I still feel strongly that 50 will be > flying by OSH and 20 will be on the ground there. It is tragic that > so many remain lurkers or felt there was little value in being part of > the Matronics Advantage. > > Now if you can just work on the Wisconsin heat, humidity and > thundercloud activity too. > > John Cox > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:45 AM > Parking-Camping > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > With less than 2 weeks until OSH, I need to put out another post > regarding a few topics: > > * RV-10 Builder List > * RV-10's Flying to OSH > * RV-10 Parking / Camping at OSH > > BUILDERS LIST > ------------- > First, regarding the builder list. I'm both impressed with the > response, but also surprised. I'm impressed because we got over 100 > responses and people added on to the builder list. Some from last > year never responded with their info. > It was a bit of work, but the list has already made it possible for a > couple people to meet up who were in the same area. > I'm kind of surprised, because with 600+ kits sold, and only getting > just over 100 replies, that means that the huge majority is unknown or > at least non-responsive or possibly not even watching any online groups. > If the same ratio of responders were to go to OSH in the remaining 500 > builders, we're going to have over 480 RV-10 builder at OSH this year!! > I'm also surprised that out of 35+ RV-10's flying, we only have 7 for > sure, and 9 possible listed as flying to OSH > on the list. Here I don't think we'll see 5X that number > show, but if the ratio holds true, we may see at least a fair share of > the 35. > > If you haven't put your name on the list, you can sign up here. > Remember that you can be on the builders list even if you aren't going > to OSH: > http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =================================== =================================== =================================== ===================================


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    Time: 08:27:27 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> The N-number, as I understand it, is just reserved and not marked to the RV-10 until you send in the application for registration. Yes, you can do this whenever, but I don't think it is usually done until getting close to flying. I think it would be fairly safe to say that those 58 planes are either flying or getting pretty close to the DAR time. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sipp Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:56 PM --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net> You may well be right Rick, but also unless I am mistaken as soon as someone applies (not reserves) for the N number it goes on the registry. So there might be lots of folks who have applied for thier number but still have a ways to go before flight. When I built the 4 I had the number a year early. Dick Sipp 40065 110DV reserved top & wiring ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:35 PM > --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> > > John, > > Your not far off...I checked the FAA data base and there were 58 RV-10's > registered, I think, there were two pages of them, some may be waiting for > a DAR??? But none the less, almost 60 of them in the database. > > Rick S. > 40185 > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. --


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    Time: 08:27:27 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Camping
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> Who do we talk to to arrange for parking in advance? We will be planning to arrive on Sunday, the day before the show starts, and will be there all week (in N415EC). Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:12 PM Parking-Camping --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Tim, thanks for the continueing hard work. First, when talking to Jeff Point get to an agreement that unannounced RV-10 arrivals are not going to be corralled with those who showed the courtesy of posting in advance. Those in advance get better placement and the others go "At Large". As a former producer of Air Shows the only thing more disgusting are the guys who sneak in, say they are with a show to get free fuel and bennies (never to have announced and never participating). They should be in the general North 40 parking masses and learn the value of the school bus shuttle. There is plenty of room for every flying RV-10 but they should at least line up parking in advance. I am ready to eat my words, but I still feel strongly that 50 will be flying by OSH and 20 will be on the ground there. It is tragic that so many remain lurkers or felt there was little value in being part of the Matronics Advantage. Now if you can just work on the Wisconsin heat, humidity and thundercloud activity too. John Cox -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:45 AM Parking-Camping --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> With less than 2 weeks until OSH, I need to put out another post regarding a few topics: * RV-10 Builder List * RV-10's Flying to OSH * RV-10 Parking / Camping at OSH BUILDERS LIST ------------- First, regarding the builder list. I'm both impressed with the response, but also surprised. I'm impressed because we got over 100 responses and people added on to the builder list. Some from last year never responded with their info. It was a bit of work, but the list has already made it possible for a couple people to meet up who were in the same area. I'm kind of surprised, because with 600+ kits sold, and only getting just over 100 replies, that means that the huge majority is unknown or at least non-responsive or possibly not even watching any online groups. If the same ratio of responders were to go to OSH in the remaining 500 builders, we're going to have over 480 RV-10 builder at OSH this year!! I'm also surprised that out of 35+ RV-10's flying, we only have 7 for sure, and 9 possible listed as flying to OSH on the list. Here I don't think we'll see 5X that number show, but if the ratio holds true, we may see at least a fair share of the 35. If you haven't put your name on the list, you can sign up here. Remember that you can be on the builders list even if you aren't going to OSH: http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. --


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    Time: 08:31:52 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com> Uh, we're registered, but unless I can teach a 5 month-old how to install engine baffling, we won't be flying for a little while . . So you're down to 57 . . . TDT -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:06 AM --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> The N-number, as I understand it, is just reserved and not marked to the RV-10 until you send in the application for registration. Yes, you can do this whenever, but I don't think it is usually done until getting close to flying. I think it would be fairly safe to say that those 58 planes are either flying or getting pretty close to the DAR time. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sipp Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:56 PM --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net> You may well be right Rick, but also unless I am mistaken as soon as someone applies (not reserves) for the N number it goes on the registry. So there might be lots of folks who have applied for thier number but still have a ways to go before flight. When I built the 4 I had the number a year early. Dick Sipp 40065 110DV reserved top & wiring ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:35 PM > --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> > > John, > > Your not far off...I checked the FAA data base and there were 58 RV-10's > registered, I think, there were two pages of them, some may be waiting for > a DAR??? But none the less, almost 60 of them in the database. > > Rick S. > 40185 > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. --


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    Time: 08:43:34 AM PST US
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Depends on if you want a number that is "popular". I've already reserved the number for my RV-10, even though I won't order the tail kit until next week. Mine will be N142KW, just because I want to be able to call out "Tequila Whisky turning final, runway 23 Left" Jack Phillips Pietenpol, NX899JP RV-4, N18LR RV-10 (Someday), N142KW -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:06 AM --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> The N-number, as I understand it, is just reserved and not marked to the RV-10 until you send in the application for registration. Yes, you can do this whenever, but I don't think it is usually done until getting close to flying. I think it would be fairly safe to say that those 58 planes are either flying or getting pretty close to the DAR time. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sipp Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:56 PM --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net> You may well be right Rick, but also unless I am mistaken as soon as someone applies (not reserves) for the N number it goes on the registry. So there might be lots of folks who have applied for thier number but still have a ways to go before flight. When I built the 4 I had the number a year early. Dick Sipp 40065 110DV reserved top & wiring ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:35 PM > --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> > > John, > > Your not far off...I checked the FAA data base and there were 58 RV-10's > registered, I think, there were two pages of them, some may be waiting for > a DAR??? But none the less, almost 60 of them in the database. > > Rick S. > 40185 > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. -- _________________________________________________


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    Time: 09:04:40 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Camping
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> There isn't really anyone that needs to talk to all of the planes flying in....but they just want a fair headcount of RV-10's....and if they will be in HBC or HBP. They want to reserve the room. I started to try to get coordinated, same-area group reservations, but after many go-arounds it turned out to not be possible.....but now they kind of look to me to give them a headcount. Not that I'm qualified, but the OSH list at least makes it easier. The problem is, there's only a fraction of the flying RV-10's on the list. Currently, they seem to think that we'll have more CAMPING rv-10's than parking. This isn't what I'm hearing from the people who did reply to me though.....so hopefully we'll get some better numbers so they can get proper info, lest they mis-allocate the space. Are you bringing both -10's or just the one then? HBC or HBP? Tim Jesse Saint wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> > > Who do we talk to to arrange for parking in advance? We will be planning to > arrive on Sunday, the day before the show starts, and will be there all week > (in N415EC). > > Do not archive. > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > W: 352-465-4545 > C: 352-427-0285 > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:12 PM > Parking-Camping > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > > Tim, thanks for the continueing hard work. First, when talking to Jeff > Point get to an agreement that unannounced RV-10 arrivals are not going > to be corralled with those who showed the courtesy of posting in > advance. Those in advance get better placement and the others go "At > Large". As a former producer of Air Shows the only thing more disgusting > are the guys who sneak in, say they are with a show to get free fuel and > bennies (never to have announced and never participating). They should > be in the general North 40 parking masses and learn the value of the > school bus shuttle. There is plenty of room for every flying RV-10 but > they should at least line up parking in advance. > > I am ready to eat my words, but I still feel strongly that 50 will be > flying by OSH and 20 will be on the ground there. It is tragic that so > many remain lurkers or felt there was little value in being part of the > Matronics Advantage. > > Now if you can just work on the Wisconsin heat, humidity and > thundercloud activity too. > > John Cox > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:45 AM > Parking-Camping > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > With less than 2 weeks until OSH, I need to put out another post > regarding a few topics: > > * RV-10 Builder List > * RV-10's Flying to OSH > * RV-10 Parking / Camping at OSH > > BUILDERS LIST > ------------- > First, regarding the builder list. I'm both impressed with the > response, but also surprised. I'm impressed because we got over 100 > responses and people added on to the builder list. Some from last year > never responded with their info. > It was a bit of work, but the list has already made it possible for a > couple people to meet up who were in the same area. > I'm kind of surprised, because with 600+ kits sold, and only getting > just over 100 replies, that means that the huge majority is unknown or > at least non-responsive or possibly not even watching any online groups. > If the same ratio of responders were to go to OSH in the remaining 500 > builders, we're going to have over 480 RV-10 builder at OSH this year!! > I'm also surprised that out of 35+ RV-10's flying, we only have 7 for > sure, and 9 possible listed as flying to OSH > on the list. Here I don't think we'll see 5X that number > show, but if the ratio holds true, we may see at least a fair share of > the 35. > > If you haven't put your name on the list, you can sign up here. > Remember that you can be on the builders list even if you aren't going > to OSH: > http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:05:05 AM PST US
    From: NYTerminat@aol.com
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    Jack, You had better change your tail # to N142TW if you want to say "Tequila Whisky" Do not archive In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:46:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Depends on if you want a number that is "popular". I've already reserved the number for my RV-10, even though I won't order the tail kit until next week. Mine will be N142KW, just because I want to be able to call out "Tequila Whisky turning final, runway 23 Left" Jack Phillips


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    Time: 09:15:56 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> I guess I meant to say below "pretty close to DAR time", not actually waiting on an inspection. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:31 AM --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com> Uh, we're registered, but unless I can teach a 5 month-old how to install engine baffling, we won't be flying for a little while . . So you're down to 57 . . . TDT -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:06 AM --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> The N-number, as I understand it, is just reserved and not marked to the RV-10 until you send in the application for registration. Yes, you can do this whenever, but I don't think it is usually done until getting close to flying. I think it would be fairly safe to say that those 58 planes are either flying or getting pretty close to the DAR time. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sipp Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:56 PM --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net> You may well be right Rick, but also unless I am mistaken as soon as someone applies (not reserves) for the N number it goes on the registry. So there might be lots of folks who have applied for thier number but still have a ways to go before flight. When I built the 4 I had the number a year early. Dick Sipp 40065 110DV reserved top & wiring ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:35 PM > --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> > > John, > > Your not far off...I checked the FAA data base and there were 58 RV-10's > registered, I think, there were two pages of them, some may be waiting for > a DAR??? But none the less, almost 60 of them in the database. > > Rick S. > 40185 > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. -- -- No virus found in this incoming message. --


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    Time: 09:44:50 AM PST US
    From: "Brinker" <brinker@cox-internet.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    Would'nt that be "tango,whiskey" ? ----- Original Message ----- From: NYTerminat@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Jack, You had better change your tail # to N142TW if you want to say "Tequila Whisky" Do not archive In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:46:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Depends on if you want a number that is "popular". I've already reserved the number for my RV-10, even though I won't order the tail kit until next week. Mine will be N142KW, just because I want to be able to call out "Tequila Whisky turning final, runway 23 Left" Jack Phillips


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    Time: 09:52:02 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Camping
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> It looks like it will just be the one this time. Anybody interested in coming to FL and flying the other one up? So, do you have me on the list for parking? We won't be camping. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:04 PM Parking-Camping --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> There isn't really anyone that needs to talk to all of the planes flying in....but they just want a fair headcount of RV-10's....and if they will be in HBC or HBP. They want to reserve the room. I started to try to get coordinated, same-area group reservations, but after many go-arounds it turned out to not be possible.....but now they kind of look to me to give them a headcount. Not that I'm qualified, but the OSH list at least makes it easier. The problem is, there's only a fraction of the flying RV-10's on the list. Currently, they seem to think that we'll have more CAMPING rv-10's than parking. This isn't what I'm hearing from the people who did reply to me though.....so hopefully we'll get some better numbers so they can get proper info, lest they mis-allocate the space. Are you bringing both -10's or just the one then? HBC or HBP? Tim Jesse Saint wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> > > Who do we talk to to arrange for parking in advance? We will be planning to > arrive on Sunday, the day before the show starts, and will be there all week > (in N415EC). > > Do not archive. > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > W: 352-465-4545 > C: 352-427-0285 > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:12 PM > Parking-Camping > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > > Tim, thanks for the continueing hard work. First, when talking to Jeff > Point get to an agreement that unannounced RV-10 arrivals are not going > to be corralled with those who showed the courtesy of posting in > advance. Those in advance get better placement and the others go "At > Large". As a former producer of Air Shows the only thing more disgusting > are the guys who sneak in, say they are with a show to get free fuel and > bennies (never to have announced and never participating). They should > be in the general North 40 parking masses and learn the value of the > school bus shuttle. There is plenty of room for every flying RV-10 but > they should at least line up parking in advance. > > I am ready to eat my words, but I still feel strongly that 50 will be > flying by OSH and 20 will be on the ground there. It is tragic that so > many remain lurkers or felt there was little value in being part of the > Matronics Advantage. > > Now if you can just work on the Wisconsin heat, humidity and > thundercloud activity too. > > John Cox > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:45 AM > Parking-Camping > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > With less than 2 weeks until OSH, I need to put out another post > regarding a few topics: > > * RV-10 Builder List > * RV-10's Flying to OSH > * RV-10 Parking / Camping at OSH > > BUILDERS LIST > ------------- > First, regarding the builder list. I'm both impressed with the > response, but also surprised. I'm impressed because we got over 100 > responses and people added on to the builder list. Some from last year > never responded with their info. > It was a bit of work, but the list has already made it possible for a > couple people to meet up who were in the same area. > I'm kind of surprised, because with 600+ kits sold, and only getting > just over 100 replies, that means that the huge majority is unknown or > at least non-responsive or possibly not even watching any online groups. > If the same ratio of responders were to go to OSH in the remaining 500 > builders, we're going to have over 480 RV-10 builder at OSH this year!! > I'm also surprised that out of 35+ RV-10's flying, we only have 7 for > sure, and 9 possible listed as flying to OSH > on the list. Here I don't think we'll see 5X that number > show, but if the ratio holds true, we may see at least a fair share of > the 35. > > If you haven't put your name on the list, you can sign up here. > Remember that you can be on the builders list even if you aren't going > to OSH: > http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. --


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    Time: 10:08:25 AM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    "Two Kilo Whiskey" Say it fast. J Do not archive [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brinker Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:40 AM Would'nt that be "tango,whiskey" ? ----- Original Message ----- From: NYTerminat@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Jack, You had better change your tail # to N142TW if you want to say "Tequila Whisky" Do not archive In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:46:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Depends on if you want a number that is "popular". I've already reserved the number for my RV-10, even though I won't order the tail kit until next week. Mine will be N142KW, just because I want to be able to call out "Tequila Whisky turning final, runway 23 Left" Jack Phillips


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    Time: 10:08:26 AM PST US
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    No, 2KW would be "two kilo whisky" or if you say it fast, "Tequila Whisky" Jack Phillips, PE Sr. Manager, Disposables Product Development Clinical Technologies and Services Cardinal Health Creedmoor, NC (919) 528-5212 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brinker Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:40 PM Would'nt that be "tango,whiskey" ? ----- Original Message ----- From: NYTerminat@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Jack, You had better change your tail # to N142TW if you want to say "Tequila Whisky" Do not archive In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:46:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Depends on if you want a number that is "popular". I've already reserved the number for my RV-10, even though I won't order the tail kit until next week. Mine will be N142KW, just because I want to be able to call out "Tequila Whisky turning final, runway 23 Left" Jack Phillips _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it i n error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N


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    Time: 10:27:13 AM PST US
    From: Jim Szutowicz <szutoman@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Here I go again - console finished
    Hello, I joined this mailing list for RV 10 Builders and it is huge, 200+ emails a day. Do you have a link to the unsubcribe page, it way to much. Thanks for your help Future RV 10 Builder Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis Another good suggestion, I think I'll remount the HS and an elevator to find out if this is a real or perceived problem. (The size of my gut is real, the amount of elevator throw is perceived. :-D THANKS Deems Rick wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick > >Deems, > >Make sure when you redo those sticks that you get enough aft stick if your going to move the grip back. If I recall on my flight, darn near full aft stick was needed on the flare so make sure "you" meaning your body doesn't stop that from happening. How much forward motion have you lost with the stick hitting the panel? Does it hit the elevator stops? Like you, my HS is not mounted yet to check but someone may be able to tell you how far forward from plumb the stick moves before hitting the stop. > >Besides you will only need full down for the outside loop. ;) > > >Rick S. >40185 > > > > > > > > > Please Visit http://www.eatonindiana.net


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    Time: 10:27:51 AM PST US
    From: "Belue, Kevin" <KBelue@drs-tem.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    N142KW shortened to 2KW, Two Kilo Whiskey said fast : Tequila Whiskey _____ Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:40 AM Would'nt that be "tango,whiskey" ? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:04 AM Jack, You had better change your tail # to N142TW if you want to say "Tequila Whisky" Do not archive In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:46:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com <mailto:Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> writes: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com <mailto:Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> > Depends on if you want a number that is "popular". I've already reserved the number for my RV-10, even though I won't order the tail kit until next week. 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color:blue;font-style:italic'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></i></b></s trong></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p > </div> <div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </span></font></div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Brinker [mailto:brinker@cox-internet.com] <br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:40 AM<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">rv10-list@matronics.com</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">OSH</st1:place></st1:City> / RV-10</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs p; Would'nt that be &quot;tango,whiskey&quot; ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:4.35pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt '> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div style='font-color:black'> <p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black; font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a href="mailto:NYTerminat@aol.com" title="NYTerminat@aol.com">NYTerminat@aol.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold '>To:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:black'> <a href="mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com" title="rv10-list@matronics.com">rv10-list@matronics.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold '>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:black'> Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:04 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold '>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial; color:black'> Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">OSH</st1:place></st1:City> / RV-10<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p > </div> <div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial id="role_document"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Jack,<o:p></o:p ></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p > </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>You had better change your tail # to N142TW if you want to say &quot;Tequila Whisky&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p > </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Do not archive<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p > </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p > </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p > </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p > </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:46:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <a href="mailto:Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com">Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com</a > writes:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </div> <blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt; margin-left:4.35pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>--&gt; RV10-List message posted by: &quot;Phillips, Jack&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com">Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com</a >&gt;<br> <br> Depends on if you want a number that is &quot;popular&quot;.&nbsp; I've already<br> reserved the number for my RV-10, even though I won't order the tail kit<br> until next week.&nbsp; Mine will be N142KW, just because I want to be able to<br> call out &quot;Tequila Whisky turning final, runway 23 Left&quot;<br> <br> Jack Phillips<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> </blockquote> </div> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p > </div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </body> </html>


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    Time: 10:36:49 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    Wish we could use all letters like the Brits: G-PSST G-ZOOM G-DOGS G-NADS TDT Do not archive ________________________________ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Belue, Kevin Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 1:06 PM N142KW shortened to 2KW, Two Kilo Whiskey said fast : Tequila Whiskey ________________________________ Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:40 AM Would'nt that be "tango,whiskey" ? ----- Original Message ----- From: NYTerminat@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Jack, You had better change your tail # to N142TW if you want to say "Tequila Whisky" Do not archive In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:46:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Depends on if you want a number that is "popular". I've already reserved the number for my RV-10, even though I won't order the tail kit until next week. Mine will be N142KW, just because I want to be able to call out "Tequila Whisky turning final, runway 23 Left" Jack Phillips


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    Time: 10:46:54 AM PST US
    From: "Scott Schmidt" <sschmidt@ussynthetic.com>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    If there are any RV-10's flying through Salt Lake going to or coming from Oshkosh and weather becomes an issue, I have room for a couple of RV-10's in my hanger if you need to make a stop. I am at KBTF (Bountiful Skypark). My cell number is listed below. I'll see you guys there. Scott Schmidt Cell 801-319-3094 sschmidt@ussynthetic.com ________________________________ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:08 AM "Two Kilo Whiskey" Say it fast. :-) Do not archive [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brinker Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:40 AM Would'nt that be "tango,whiskey" ? ----- Original Message ----- From: NYTerminat@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Jack, You had better change your tail # to N142TW if you want to say "Tequila Whisky" Do not archive In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:46:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Depends on if you want a number that is "popular". I've already reserved the number for my RV-10, even though I won't order the tail kit until next week. Mine will be N142KW, just because I want to be able to call out "Tequila Whisky turning final, runway 23 Left" Jack Phillips


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    Time: 10:54:26 AM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Here I go again - console finished
    Yes, it's in the same place you subscribed. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Szutowicz Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:26 PM Hello, I joined this mailing list for RV 10 Builders and it is huge, 200+ emails a day. Do you have a link to the unsubcribe page, it way to much. Thanks for your help Future RV 10 Builder Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis Another good suggestion, I think I'll remount the HS and an elevator to find out if this is a real or perceived problem. (The size of my gut is real, the amount of elevator throw is perceived. :-D THANKS Deems Rick wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick > >Deems, > >Make sure when you redo those sticks that you get enough aft stick if your going to move the grip back. If I recall on my flight, darn


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    Time: 10:54:30 AM PST US
    From: "Brinker" <brinker@cox-internet.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    Makes sense now lol ----- Original Message ----- From: Phillips, Jack To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 No, 2KW would be "two kilo whisky" or if you say it fast, "Tequila Whisky" Jack Phillips, PE Sr. Manager, Disposables Product Development Clinical Technologies and Services Cardinal Health Creedmoor, NC (919) 528-5212 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brinker Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:40 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Would'nt that be "tango,whiskey" ? ----- Original Message ----- From: NYTerminat@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Jack, You had better change your tail # to N142TW if you want to say "Tequila Whisky" Do not archive In a message dated 7/12/2006 11:46:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Depends on if you want a number that is "popular". I've already reserved the number for my RV-10, even though I won't order the tail kit until next week. Mine will be N142KW, just because I want to be able to call out "Tequila Whisky turning final, runway 23 Left" Jack Phillips _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N


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    Time: 11:19:33 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Here I go again - console finished
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> 200 a day?? Must be confused with the regular RV list... we don't ever see that amount. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > Yes, its in the same place you subscribed. > > > > Michael Sausen > > RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage > > Do Not Archive > > Recent RV-10 Build Activity > <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jim Szutowicz > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:26 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Here I go again - console finished > > > > Hello, I joined this mailing list for RV 10 Builders and it is huge, > 200+ emails a day. Do you have a link to the unsubcribe page, it way to > much. Thanks for your help > > > > Future RV 10 Builder > > */Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net <mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net>>/* wrote: > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis > > Another good suggestion, I think I'll remount the HS and an elevator to > find out if this is a real or perceived problem. (The size of my gut is > real, the amount of elevator throw is perceived. :-D > > THANKS > > Deems > > Rick wrote: > > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick > > > >Deems, > > > >Make sure when you redo those sticks that you get enough aft stick > if your going to move the grip back. If I recall on my flight, darn >


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    Time: 01:38:27 PM PST US
    From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Subject please read
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com> This is not a winge so please don't get upset or anything silly!! Guys and girls could we use the subject line as its makes it very time consuming when you get so many emails pertaining to osh kosh and TW callsigns etc with the incorrect subject. Makes a quick check of the email for any builder info painful. Please remember this is a world wide list helping BUILDERS. Simple request and no need to respond. Chris 388 and VH-MUM sold but might be coming back (new owner tranfering overseas) Can you believe USA DO not archive


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    Time: 01:43:56 PM PST US
    From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: QB FUSE VANS
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com> Guys if anyone has had problems with there QB fuse could they send an email to me VHMUM at bigpond.com Thanks Chris


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    Time: 02:17:58 PM PST US
    From: <gorejr@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <gorejr@bellsouth.net> How does one go about reserving an N number? Jim > > From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com> > Date: 2006/07/12 Wed AM 11:25:08 EDT > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com> > > > It's a three-step process: > 1) Reserve N-number. There airplane is not yet "registered", but the > number is recorded in the "registry" as reserved. If fact, there may > not even be an aircraft, it might just be someone hoarding numbers. > 2) Register your aircraft. > 3) Get your inspection. > > Don't wait until you're ready for an inspection to submit your > registration, or you will be cooling your heels for 3-4 weeks while the > FAA processes it. No inspection without an approved registration form > in hand. > > TDT > 40025 > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 11:12 AM > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > > No actually it is a two step process. My N number N49CX is reserved but > you will not find it on the registry because I have not requested the > Airworthiness Inspection yet. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Sipp > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:56 PM > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net> > > You may well be right Rick, but also unless I am mistaken as soon as > someone applies (not reserves) for the N number it goes on the registry. > So there might be lots of folks who have applied for thier number but > still have a ways to go before flight. When I built the 4 I had the > number a year early. > > Dick Sipp > 40065 110DV reserved > top & wiring > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:35 PM > > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> > > > > John, > > > > Your not far off...I checked the FAA data base and there were 58 > RV-10's > > registered, I think, there were two pages of them, some may be waiting > for > > a DAR??? But none the less, almost 60 of them in the database. > > > > Rick S. > > 40185 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:44:11 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: N-Number Reservations
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Go here: http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certification/aircraft _registry/n_numbers/ Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage PS: Look I changed the subject and even trimmed it down. :-D -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gorejr@bellsouth.net Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 4:06 PM --> RV10-List message posted by: <gorejr@bellsouth.net> How does one go about reserving an N number? Jim


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    Time: 07:01:06 PM PST US
    From: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
    Subject: RV-10 Builders List / RV-10's to OSH / RV-10 Parking-Camping
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net> Hand waving frantically from the background. I'll fly it up. Bob K -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 8:51 AM Parking-Camping --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> It looks like it will just be the one this time. Anybody interested in coming to FL and flying the other one up? So, do you have me on the list for parking? We won't be camping. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:04 PM Parking-Camping --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> There isn't really anyone that needs to talk to all of the planes flying in....but they just want a fair headcount of RV-10's....and if they will be in HBC or HBP. They want to reserve the room. I started to try to get coordinated, same-area group reservations, but after many go-arounds it turned out to not be possible.....but now they kind of look to me to give them a headcount. Not that I'm qualified, but the OSH list at least makes it easier. The problem is, there's only a fraction of the flying RV-10's on the list. Currently, they seem to think that we'll have more CAMPING rv-10's than parking. This isn't what I'm hearing from the people who did reply to me though.....so hopefully we'll get some better numbers so they can get proper info, lest they mis-allocate the space. Are you bringing both -10's or just the one then? HBC or HBP? Tim Jesse Saint wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> > > Who do we talk to to arrange for parking in advance? We will be planning to > arrive on Sunday, the day before the show starts, and will be there all week > (in N415EC). > > Do not archive. > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > W: 352-465-4545 > C: 352-427-0285 > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:12 PM > Parking-Camping > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > > Tim, thanks for the continueing hard work. First, when talking to Jeff > Point get to an agreement that unannounced RV-10 arrivals are not going > to be corralled with those who showed the courtesy of posting in > advance. Those in advance get better placement and the others go "At > Large". As a former producer of Air Shows the only thing more disgusting > are the guys who sneak in, say they are with a show to get free fuel and > bennies (never to have announced and never participating). They should > be in the general North 40 parking masses and learn the value of the > school bus shuttle. There is plenty of room for every flying RV-10 but > they should at least line up parking in advance. > > I am ready to eat my words, but I still feel strongly that 50 will be > flying by OSH and 20 will be on the ground there. It is tragic that so > many remain lurkers or felt there was little value in being part of the > Matronics Advantage. > > Now if you can just work on the Wisconsin heat, humidity and > thundercloud activity too. > > John Cox > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:45 AM > Parking-Camping > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > With less than 2 weeks until OSH, I need to put out another post > regarding a few topics: > > * RV-10 Builder List > * RV-10's Flying to OSH > * RV-10 Parking / Camping at OSH > > BUILDERS LIST > ------------- > First, regarding the builder list. I'm both impressed with the > response, but also surprised. I'm impressed because we got over 100 > responses and people added on to the builder list. Some from last year > never responded with their info. > It was a bit of work, but the list has already made it possible for a > couple people to meet up who were in the same area. > I'm kind of surprised, because with 600+ kits sold, and only getting > just over 100 replies, that means that the huge majority is unknown or > at least non-responsive or possibly not even watching any online groups. > If the same ratio of responders were to go to OSH in the remaining 500 > builders, we're going to have over 480 RV-10 builder at OSH this year!! > I'm also surprised that out of 35+ RV-10's flying, we only have 7 for > sure, and 9 possible listed as flying to OSH > on the list. Here I don't think we'll see 5X that number > show, but if the ratio holds true, we may see at least a fair share of > the 35. > > If you haven't put your name on the list, you can sign up here. > Remember that you can be on the builders list even if you aren't going > to OSH: > http://www.myrv10.com/osh.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. --


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    Time: 07:47:11 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: instrument sub-panel, fwd fuse and cabin cover questions
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> I'd like any input regarding the installation of the above items. I don't bend like I used to and want to avoid as many contortions as possible, to that end I'd like to leave the fuse opened up as long as possible. 1. What things can I go ahead and attach to the instrument sub-panel while it's 'transportable' i.e not riveted to the Fuse? a. Other than the modifications to open up areas for avionics mounting, what other access holes have builders put in the sub-panel? b. has anybody installed anything on the FORWARD side of the sub-panel? What? c. Any other recommendations for sub-panel work before installing the upper fwd fuse? 2. How long can I leave the Cabin cover drilled/clecoed' before riveting it to the fuse? can the doors be(accurately) fit to the cabin w/ the cover only clecoed vs riveted? 3. Is it easier to install the windows with the cover on or off of the Fuse? I appreciate any input you might have. THANKS Deems Davis # 406 Finishing Fuse / Finishing http://deemsrv10.com/


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    Time: 08:22:49 PM PST US
    From: "William DeLacey" <whd721@msn.com>
    Subject: RV-10 vs RV-9 or 7 or 6 build time
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "William DeLacey" <whd721@msn.com> I would like comments from any repeat builders as to the comparison of build times for the RV-10 verses any other previous RV they built. Comments like 20% more or half as much would be helpful. whd721@msn.com


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    Time: 09:08:15 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: instrument sub-panel, fwd fuse and cabin cover questions
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Deems Davis wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> > > I'd like any input regarding the installation of the above items. I > don't bend like I used to and want to avoid as many contortions as > possible, to that end I'd like to leave the fuse opened up as long as > possible. > > 1. What things can I go ahead and attach to the instrument sub-panel > while it's 'transportable' i.e not riveted to the Fuse? > a. Other than the modifications to open up areas for avionics > mounting, what other access holes have builders put in the sub-panel? I put a larger one in. No huge reason, but it ended up coming in handy to use as arm and vision access while mounting the Lightspeed and WSI stuff on the aft side of the upper firewall. I put a bunch ov various holes in the subpanel for wire passthroughs. > b. has anybody installed anything on the FORWARD side of the > sub-panel? What? I have an E-Bus schottky diode there, in a protective case. And, I put the stall buzzer there too. > c. Any other recommendations for sub-panel work before > installing the upper fwd fuse? > > 2. How long can I leave the Cabin cover drilled/clecoed' before riveting > it to the fuse? can the doors be(accurately) fit to the cabin w/ the > cover only clecoed vs riveted? > I think you'll naturally feel when you need to have it riveted by just working along through the plans. I can't see why you wouldn't be able to fit the doors without riveted, but you should probably install the countersunk bolts before fitting the doors so that everything is at least in the exact place. > 3. Is it easier to install the windows with the cover on or off of the > Fuse? > I don't know. It may be easier to install the windows with it off, but it may make it harder to work with the canopy when putting it on, and it would sure not be fun if you dislodged or scratched them in some freak happening while reattaching the canopy. > I appreciate any input you might have. > You're getting to the point where some of the things start to get a little tougher for the tall/older/slightly oversized. I fit into a couple of those categories well, and one slightly. ;) I wired my panel almost fully while installed. Not that I think that's best....I had my reasons, but I can definitely see benefits of doing it out of the plane too. But anyway, you're reaching the point where you start physically suffering a bit more in the build. I would just say try to have anything placed on the firewall inside that you intend to leave there. Ground tab blocks, large wire passthroughs, and anything like that. You can actually attach the canopy and leave the forward fuse off for a while if you wish. I think I did the canopy on mine before the forward fuse, and just slid it in place later. So I think it's plenty do-able. It won't be too long though after where you're at and you'll be putting a windshield in, and other things, so access will definitely get harder. You're coming up on what I think is about the 1/2 way point of the kit in terms of hours pretty soon...about the time you put the windshield in. So now things start to get both harder, and more fun. Just hang in there. One thing you DON'T want to attach until the last minute is the sticks. Leave the seats out as long as possible too. That way you can lay a board down over the seat area and lay on it. Tim > THANKS > > > Deems Davis # 406 > Finishing Fuse / Finishing > http://deemsrv10.com/ > >


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    Time: 09:15:02 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Sipp" <rsipp@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: instrument sub-panel,long
    Deems: I have been thinking the same way you have. I want to complete as much of the instrument panel and electrical installation as possible PRIOR to riveting on the forward top skin and the cabin cover. I have done the inittial trial fitting of the cabin cover with the forward skin cleocoed on and stopped there. I have a subcontracted Aerotronics panel and so have the advantage that it was completed and operationally tested on the bench by them. I also had them do several optional harnesses and subsystems like the stick grips, autopilot harnesses, elt harness, interphone etc. The panel is supplied with multiple cannon plug type connectors that you complete by installing airframe wires into the panel mating plug. The step by step documentation is provided. Completing the airframe side of the installation has been easy with forward top skin off, cabin top off, and the fuselage at floor level. Nearly all of the many miscellaneous little boxes (altitude encoder, Freeflight GPS sensor, AOA computer, lighting control boards, voltage regulator etc etc are mounted on the subpanel and longitudinal ribs. I found there is plenty of room. Thankfully most of these are connected with various size d-sub connectors at the unit. The Chelton displays were positioned to not conflict with the longitudinal rigs and there were only two minor cut-outs required to the sub panel. So...the plan is to complete everything including temporary hook up of the GPS antennas, roll the "canoe" out in the driveway, and functionally test everything I possibly can. Then the finished cables will be discounted, the panel removed, top skin riveted to the substructure and finally the panel will be reinstalled to the substructure ON THE BENCH and the hopefully the nearly finished assemble will be final riveted to the fuselage per the plans. Sounds confusing I know. Here are 3 pictures with most of the components mounted but the cables still loose; I'll try to remember to post a few more when its finished after OSH. This whole process works in my head, we'll see about actuality. Ideally from a system and electrical standpoint everything will be done and tested before the top, doors, or windows are finished. Hope it works. Apologies for the long post. Dick Sipp 40065 N110DV reserved


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    Time: 09:30:58 PM PST US
    From: "McGANN, Ron" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com>
    Subject: instrument sub-panel, fwd fuse and cabin cover questions
    Thanks for breaking my day Tim :-< I am at the same point as Deems, and after 2.3 years and more than 1700hrs (Slow build), the reality of still being less than 1/2 way there is bit hard to deal with. I was really hoping to be done by this time next year. Ron 187 - finishing kit is somewhere in Oz. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, 13 July 2006 1:35 PM questions --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Deems Davis wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> > > I'd like any input regarding the installation of the above items. I > don't bend like I used to and want to avoid as many contortions as > possible, to that end I'd like to leave the fuse opened up as long as > possible. > > 1. What things can I go ahead and attach to the instrument sub-panel > while it's 'transportable' i.e not riveted to the Fuse? > a. Other than the modifications to open up areas for avionics > mounting, what other access holes have builders put in the sub-panel? I put a larger one in. No huge reason, but it ended up coming in handy to use as arm and vision access while mounting the Lightspeed and WSI stuff on the aft side of the upper firewall. I put a bunch ov various holes in the subpanel for wire passthroughs. > b. has anybody installed anything on the FORWARD side of the > sub-panel? What? I have an E-Bus schottky diode there, in a protective case. And, I put the stall buzzer there too. > c. Any other recommendations for sub-panel work before > installing the upper fwd fuse? > > 2. How long can I leave the Cabin cover drilled/clecoed' before riveting > it to the fuse? can the doors be(accurately) fit to the cabin w/ the > cover only clecoed vs riveted? > I think you'll naturally feel when you need to have it riveted by just working along through the plans. I can't see why you wouldn't be able to fit the doors without riveted, but you should probably install the countersunk bolts before fitting the doors so that everything is at least in the exact place. > 3. Is it easier to install the windows with the cover on or off of the > Fuse? > I don't know. It may be easier to install the windows with it off, but it may make it harder to work with the canopy when putting it on, and it would sure not be fun if you dislodged or scratched them in some freak happening while reattaching the canopy. > I appreciate any input you might have. > You're getting to the point where some of the things start to get a little tougher for the tall/older/slightly oversized. I fit into a couple of those categories well, and one slightly. ;) I wired my panel almost fully while installed. Not that I think that's best....I had my reasons, but I can definitely see benefits of doing it out of the plane too. But anyway, you're reaching the point where you start physically suffering a bit more in the build. I would just say try to have anything placed on the firewall inside that you intend to leave there. Ground tab blocks, large wire passthroughs, and anything like that. You can actually attach the canopy and leave the forward fuse off for a while if you wish. I think I did the canopy on mine before the forward fuse, and just slid it in place later. So I think it's plenty do-able. It won't be too long though after where you're at and you'll be putting a windshield in, and other things, so access will definitely get harder. You're coming up on what I think is about the 1/2 way point of the kit in terms of hours pretty soon...about the time you put the windshield in. So now things start to get both harder, and more fun. Just hang in there. One thing you DON'T want to attach until the last minute is the sticks. Leave the seats out as long as possible too. That way you can lay a board down over the seat area and lay on it. Tim > THANKS > > > Deems Davis # 406 > Finishing Fuse / Finishing > http://deemsrv10.com/ > > ========================= ========== ========================= ========== ========================= ========== ========================= ==========


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    Time: 09:56:57 PM PST US
    From: Bill DeRouchey <billderou@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: instrument sub-panel, fwd fuse and cabin cover questions
    I approached the fwd upper fuselage, panel, and cabin in the following order and in hindsight it worked well. Before the panel & fwd upper fuse were riveted to the lower fuselage I installed avionics, glass PFD, autopilot, engine monitor, voltage regulator, switch, and map box while the unit was on the bench. Three wire bundles [engine bay, left side run, right side run] were collected with long tails and each wire labeled with masking tape. A 37pin Amp plug was mounted to the sub-panel and all panel wiring passes through this plug. My fuse box, from West Marine, was installed on the sub-panel with only three fuses on the outer panel to shed load during an electrical emergency. Rivet the unit to the fuselage and run the bundles into the engine compartment and down the left and right sides. Now two work areas can be addressed independently - engine compartment and cabin. The wires on the side were either spliced or routed to one of my three connectors [L & R wing, tail]. The cabin was permanently installed next. I do not think the doors can be fitted properly unless the fiberglass cabin is in its final resting place. The doors are seated into the cabin opening by beveling both/either edges and small changes in the outer shell can have big effects on the door fit. Before I cemented the front windscreen, I installed the GPS antenna far forward in line with the co-pilot. Note that I also left vertical space so the antenna could be replaced with a newer antenna that supports WAAS. Windows, cabin doors, and FWF were next. Last item riveted were the two top tail skins. Leaving this to last was a big help routing wires through the tail. Bill DeRouchey - billderou@yahoo.com N939SB, Kit #40029 Fly next week Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis I'd like any input regarding the installation of the above items. I don't bend like I used to and want to avoid as many contortions as possible, to that end I'd like to leave the fuse opened up as long as possible. 1. What things can I go ahead and attach to the instrument sub-panel while it's 'transportable' i.e not riveted to the Fuse? a. Other than the modifications to open up areas for avionics mounting, what other access holes have builders put in the sub-panel? b. has anybody installed anything on the FORWARD side of the sub-panel? What? c. Any other recommendations for sub-panel work before installing the upper fwd fuse? 2. How long can I leave the Cabin cover drilled/clecoed' before riveting it to the fuse? can the doors be(accurately) fit to the cabin w/ the cover only clecoed vs riveted? 3. Is it easier to install the windows with the cover on or off of the Fuse? I appreciate any input you might have. THANKS Deems Davis # 406 Finishing Fuse / Finishing http://deemsrv10.com/




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