---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 07/22/06: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:47 AM - Re: 40Hrs & Numbers (Chris , Susie Darcy) 2. 06:35 AM - Re: Grommets (Tim Olson) 3. 09:34 AM - OSH Update 7/22/06 (bcondrey) 4. 09:34 AM - Re: 40Hrs & Numbers (Jesse Saint) 5. 10:49 AM - Re: OSH Update 7/22/06 (Tim Olson) 6. 01:12 PM - Re: RV-10 Kits (sketch2006@comcast.net) 7. 01:49 PM - OshKosh __Tunnel heat (Chris , Susie Darcy) 8. 03:20 PM - Re: OshKosh __Tunnel heat (Dan Masys) 9. 03:31 PM - Re: OshKosh __Tunnel heat (Mark Chamberlain) 10. 03:42 PM - Re: OshKosh __Tunnel heat (Chris , Susie Darcy) 11. 03:48 PM - Re: OshKosh __Tunnel heat (Chris , Susie Darcy) 12. 04:22 PM - Re: OshKosh __Tunnel heat (Sean Blair) 13. 04:23 PM - Re: Re: OSH arrival (Lloyd, Daniel R.) 14. 04:42 PM - Re: Re: OSH arrival (Tim Olson) 15. 04:44 PM - N410MR First Flight (Mark Ritter) 16. 04:49 PM - Re: OshKosh __Tunnel heat (David Maib) 17. 05:06 PM - Re: Re: OSH arrival (Lloyd, Daniel R.) 18. 05:10 PM - Starter Problem (Marcus Cooper) 19. 05:27 PM - Re: Re: OSH arrival (Tim Olson) 20. 07:45 PM - Re: OshKosh __Tunnel heat (Mark Chamberlain) 21. 08:17 PM - RV-10 Builders Map (Jae Chang) 22. 08:56 PM - Re: RV-10 Builders Map (Tim Olson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:47:04 AM PST US From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" Subject: Re: RV10-List: 40Hrs & Numbers Jesse what engine prop and weight is your 10?? Congratulations! regards chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Saint To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: RV10-List: 40Hrs & Numbers Well, the Hobbs says 40.0, so we are good for the flight to KOSH on Sunday. A few performance numbers: 8K feet 24=94 2400 10.5gph (50LOP) 157Kts (average of 4 directions) 10K feet 22=94 2200 10.0gph (20LOP) 163Kts 12K feet 20=94 2400 10.3gph (Peak) 165Kts Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -- 7/20/2006 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:18 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Grommets --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Those grommets could be any size based on the builder. One bit of advice...you're probably going to want some grommets of various sizes as you get further along. You may want to purchase a bunch with a little variety. I had to buy many extra for those lightening holes in the vertical thin bulkheads on the fuselage side below the door for wire passthroughs. Stein has lots of grommets, and ACS has even more sizes. It's probably not too critical to size the one you're worried about with tons of accuracy. You can always use RTV to keep it sealed later if needed. What I did for sizing some is to just cut little 3" pieces of wire and when I knew I had all the sizes and quantities that I'd need, I stuffed them through a grommet/conduit/hole and tried it out. I dont' know if I put my pitot tube in the same hole....I think I ran that separately just due to where it wanted to come through. I know that's not a real answer, just a theory, but it may help. There's going to be a lot of improvising in the remaining steps of the project. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Sean Blair wrote: > Im working on the fuselage side skins and it says to enlarge the wire > run hole to the wings and install grommets that can be purchased from > Vans, but are not included in the kit. This is section 29-15. > > > > Can anyone make a recommendation what size hole and grommet part number > works for this? I plan on installing Duckworks, Archers, LED > indicators, strobes, etc. Basically the works. Do I run all > electrical, coax, pitot, etc. through this hole? > > > > Thanks and have fun in OSH everyone. > > > > Sean Blair > > #40225 > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:16 AM PST US From: "bcondrey" Subject: RV10-List: OSH Update 7/22/06 --> RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey" As of yesterday afternoon there were 2 completed RV-10s here - Vic Syracuse's and TruTrak's. Photo attached. Ken Forsythe also stopped by to say hi. I'll try to get a picture posted each day for those that aren't going to make it this year. Bob #40105 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=49290#49290 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/rv_10s_661.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:16 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: 40Hrs & Numbers TMXIO-540-D4A5 with Hartzell Blended Airfoil. Weight? Did you say weight? What=92s that? Man, I need to get a good set of scales one of these days. Without good scales, the estimated weight is about 1427 with just one seat in the front, nothing in the back, no close-out panels, no pants or fairings, etc. Thanks. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 _____ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris , Susie Darcy Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 4:42 AM Jesse what engine prop and weight is your 10?? Congratulations! regards chris ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:31 AM Well, the Hobbs says 40.0, so we are good for the flight to KOSH on Sunday. A few performance numbers: 8K feet 24=94 2400 10.5gph (50LOP) 157Kts (average of 4 directions) 10K feet 22=94 2200 10.0gph (20LOP) 163Kts 12K feet 20=94 2400 10.3gph (Peak) 165Kts Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -- 7/20/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. 7/20/2006 -- 7/21/2006 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:01 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH Update 7/22/06 --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Darn-it-all Bob, you're making me jealous. I'm moving my departure up. I'll be there by 1:30 or 2 tomorrow. If we can dump the kids tonight, we'll be there more like 8 or 9. It's like being 6 on the day before Christmas.... Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive bcondrey wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey" > > As of yesterday afternoon there were 2 completed RV-10s here - Vic Syracuse's and TruTrak's. Photo attached. Ken Forsythe also stopped by to say hi. > > I'll try to get a picture posted each day for those that aren't going to make it this year. > > Bob #40105 > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:45 PM PST US From: sketch2006@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Kits Good Afternoon Lyle, A couple of questions regarding your subject posting: 1. What is the labor worth (how much time has been spent assembling it so far)? 2. How much do you want for one of the RV-10 kits? 3. Is is worth me buying/renting a large trailer (& travelling to your site and picking the kit up) or just have it shipped via truck/rail? 4. Will I still qualify for the 51% rule if I purchase a partially assembled RV from you? 5. I presume that I could still obtain a repairmans certificate upon completion? 6. What paperwork comes with the sale? 7. What about taxes, I presume that there would be none, true? 8. Are there any restrictions with selecting an engine? Appreciate your time, Jim -------------- Original message -------------- Chapter 237 in Minneapolis has RV-10 kits for sale. They include the empennage which has been assembled, the Quick Build wing and fuselage kits. The latter are still in the crates as shipped from Vans. An EAA Technical Counselor and a two time RV builder pronounce the workmanship excellent on the tail feathers. Contact below or atirburgess at msn.com for more information. Lyle Peterson lyleap at comcast.net 651-653-2063
Good Afternoon Lyle,
 
A couple of questions regarding your subject posting:
 
1.  What is the labor worth (how much time has been spent assembling it so far)?
 
2.  How much do you want for one of the RV-10 kits?
 
3.  Is is worth me buying/renting a large trailer (& travelling to your site and picking the kit up) or just have it shipped via truck/rail?
 
4.  Will I still qualify for the 51% rule if I purchase a partially assembled RV from you?
 
5.  I presume that I could still obtain a repairmans certificate upon completion?
 
6.  What paperwork comes with the sale?
 
7.  What about taxes, I presume that there would be none, true?
 
8.  Are there any restrictions with selecting an engine?
 
Appreciate your time,
 
Jim
 
 
 
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "lyleap" <lyleap@comcast.net>

Chapter 237 in Minneapolis has RV-10 kits for sale.  They include the empennage which has been assembled, the Quick Build wing and fuselage kits.  The latter are still in the crates as shipped from Vans.  An EAA Technical Counselor and a two time RV builder pronounce the workmanship excellent on the tail feathers.  Contact below or atirburgess at msn.com for more information.

 

Lyle Peterson

lyleap at comcast.net

651-653-2063

 

________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:49:33 PM PST US From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" Subject: RV10-List: OshKosh __Tunnel heat --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" For those with flying RV10 that are going to Oshkosh if you are having problems with tunnel heat can you bring it up at the forum please. And those that are flying are you have serious issues with the heat......theres been a lot of talk but just need the facts please ...yes no fixed?? regards Chris ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:20:02 PM PST US From: Dan Masys Subject: Re: RV10-List: OshKosh __Tunnel heat --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys Just chatted at some length with Vic Syracuse about this here at OSH, and he for sure has it fixed. -Dan Masys 40448 ---- "Chris wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" > > For those with flying RV10 that are going to Oshkosh if you are having > problems with tunnel heat can you bring it up at the forum please. > > And those that are flying are you have serious issues with the > heat......theres been a lot of talk but just need the facts please ...yes no > fixed?? > > regards Chris > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:31:06 PM PST US From: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> Subject: Re: RV10-List: OshKosh __Tunnel heat --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> Chris, I have a flying 10 with 100hrs on it. I had no heat problems during the winter but have had plenty during the hotter months in SoCal. I have insulated the inside firewall and tunnel areas, firesleeved my tunnel fuel lines, disconnected the heat box scat tubes (and run them overboard), and extended my exhaust pipe( I have the original exhaust). None of these have solved the problem. When I am done flying, the entire circumference of the aircraft adjacent to the firewall is so hot you cannot touch the exterior. I also believe I am experiencing more than the "normal" injected engine fuel vapor problems that are sometimes present with hot engines. If you haven't already, go on the Doug Reeves RV website and look at the forum threads for the 10 and you will find talk relating to the tunnel heat issue. One guy claims to have fixed the problem and goes on to explain how he did it by insulating the belly on the outside as well as insulating the forward side of the firewall. Although I believe his theory is absolutely correct regarding the origination of the heat, I disagree that this is the final solution. You can do several things to alleviate the problem, but in my opinion the heat from the engine should not be that bad to begin with. In other words, you can resolve the tunnel heat issue, but it seems to me that there are factors ( maybe cowl design) that are not allowing the heat to escape the cowl area, thereby heating up the stainless steel firewall. I haven't seen any other RV models that have had to go to this length to keep heat off the firewall. Even though other RV's don't have tunnels, i'm sure if there was a lot of heat buildup on the other models, they would be complaining. Makes me wonder why the 10 is the only model with the vents under the cowl!! I am not an engineer, but it seems to me that the cowl needs some sort of modification to get the proper press differential from inlet to outlet that will help evacuate the engine heat better. Sorry to ramble, hope this helps. I do believe the ball is in Vans' court....especially with 600 kits sold. Mark (N104ML) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:42:36 PM PST US From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" Subject: Re: RV10-List: OshKosh __Tunnel heat --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" Please do tell? Chris ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 8:15 AM > --> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys > > Just chatted at some length with Vic Syracuse about this here at OSH, and > he for sure has it fixed. > > -Dan Masys > 40448 > > ---- "Chris wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" >> >> >> For those with flying RV10 that are going to Oshkosh if you are having >> problems with tunnel heat can you bring it up at the forum please. >> >> And those that are flying are you have serious issues with the >> heat......theres been a lot of talk but just need the facts please ...yes >> no >> fixed?? >> >> regards Chris >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:48:32 PM PST US From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" Subject: Re: RV10-List: OshKosh __Tunnel heat --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" Yes Mark I agree with you and I have seen and replied on Dougs site....I was going to put a blanket on engine side of firewall but do not want to put anything on the belly...so agree partial fix. I cant seem to find anything over here so will probably have to import something like Kool-mat or the like. Chris Australia ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 8:29 AM > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> > > Chris, I have a flying 10 with 100hrs on it. I had no heat problems during > the winter but have had plenty during the hotter months in SoCal. I have > insulated the inside firewall and tunnel areas, firesleeved my tunnel fuel > lines, disconnected the heat box scat tubes (and run them overboard), and > extended my exhaust pipe( I have the original exhaust). None of these have > solved the problem. When I am done flying, the entire circumference of the > aircraft adjacent to the firewall is so hot you cannot touch the exterior. > I also believe I am experiencing more than the "normal" injected engine > fuel vapor problems that are sometimes present with hot engines. If you > haven't already, go on the Doug Reeves RV website and look at the forum > threads for the 10 and you will find talk relating to the tunnel heat > issue. One guy claims to have fixed the problem and goes on to explain how > he did it by insulating the belly on the outside as well as insulating the > forward side of the firewall. Although I believe his theory is absolutely > correct regarding the origination of the heat, I disagree that this is the > final solution. You can do several things to alleviate the problem, but in > my opinion the heat from the engine should not be that bad to begin with. > In other words, you can resolve the tunnel heat issue, but it seems to me > that there are factors ( maybe cowl design) that are not allowing the heat > to escape the cowl area, thereby heating up the stainless steel firewall. > I haven't seen any other RV models that have had to go to this length to > keep heat off the firewall. Even though other RV's don't have tunnels, i'm > sure if there was a lot of heat buildup on the other models, they would be > complaining. Makes me wonder why the 10 is the only model with the vents > under the cowl!! I am not an engineer, but it seems to me that the cowl > needs some sort of modification to get the proper press differential from > inlet to outlet that will help evacuate the engine heat better. Sorry to > ramble, hope this helps. I do believe the ball is in Vans' > court....especially with 600 kits sold. Mark (N104ML) > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:22:20 PM PST US From: "Sean Blair" Subject: RE: RV10-List: OshKosh __Tunnel heat --> RV10-List message posted by: "Sean Blair" I ordered 3/4 inch Super Soundproofing for the front flooring. I haven't installed it yet. One recommendation from the vendor was to place sheets of Reynolds Aluminum down first before the soundproofing to help with the heat aspects. Has anyone done this? What did you use for adhesion? Thanks again, Sean Blair #40225 Yes Mark I agree with you and I have seen and replied on Dougs site....I was going to put a blanket on engine side of firewall but do not want to put anything on the belly...so agree partial fix. I cant seem to find anything over here so will probably have to import something like Kool-mat or the like. Chris Australia > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> > > Chris, I have a flying 10 with 100hrs on it. I had no heat problems during > the winter but have had plenty during the hotter months in SoCal. I have > insulated the inside firewall and tunnel areas, firesleeved my tunnel fuel > lines, disconnected the heat box scat tubes (and run them overboard), and > extended my exhaust pipe( I have the original exhaust). None of these have > solved the problem. When I am done flying, the entire circumference of the > aircraft adjacent to the firewall is so hot you cannot touch the exterior. > I also believe I am experiencing more than the "normal" injected engine > fuel vapor problems that are sometimes present with hot engines. If you > haven't already, go on the Doug Reeves RV website and look at the forum > threads for the 10 and you will find talk relating to the tunnel heat > issue. One guy claims to have fixed the problem and goes on to explain how > he did it by insulating the belly on the outside as well as insulating the > forward side of the firewall. Although I believe his theory is absolutely > correct regarding the origination of the heat, I disagree that this is the > final solution. You can do several things to alleviate the problem, but in > my opinion the heat from the engine should not be that bad to begin with. > In other words, you can resolve the tunnel heat issue, but it seems to me > that there are factors ( maybe cowl design) that are not allowing the heat > to escape the cowl area, thereby heating up the stainless steel firewall. > I haven't seen any other RV models that have had to go to this length to > keep heat off the firewall. Even though other RV's don't have tunnels, i'm > sure if there was a lot of heat buildup on the other models, they would be > complaining. Makes me wonder why the 10 is the only model with the vents > under the cowl!! I am not an engineer, but it seems to me that the cowl > needs some sort of modification to get the proper press differential from > inlet to outlet that will help evacuate the engine heat better. Sorry to > ramble, hope this helps. I do believe the ball is in Vans' > court....especially with 600 kits sold. Mark (N104ML) ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:23:30 PM PST US From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: OSH arrival --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." Tim, we would like to join if possible, we will be in on Thursday, we have a popup so need just a little room comparatively THX Dan 40269 (N289DT) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 12:15 PM --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Bob, Thanks again for grabbing that site for me. Looks like it will do very nicely. If there's another camping RV-10 builder who wants to join on the site, I can make mine look like I'm by Gary's and we'll share. The more -10 builders, the merrier. Just let us know. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive bcondrey wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey" > > Sorry, no webcam but here are a couple of still shots. First one is of our our sites. From right to left: my motorhome, Tim's site with a canopy set up for additional shade, and Gary's motorhome with Gary in front of it. We would have shown a mountain of beer cans but it's not even 10:00 AM yet... > > Second shot is our sign at the intersection of Lindbergh and 57th. > > Bob > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/rv_10_hq_02_192.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/rv_10_hq_01_139.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:42:58 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: OSH arrival --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson I see no problems with that. It'll be nice to get to talk to you at length in person. I'm just in a small tent, and the sites run 15 x 30 or so. So we should be OK. If there's another tent that wants to join, we can probably accomodate that too. The vehicles would be the hardest part. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." > > Tim, we would like to join if possible, we will be in on Thursday, we > have a popup so need just a little room comparatively > THX > Dan > 40269 (N289DT) > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 12:15 PM > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > Bob, Thanks again for grabbing that site for me. Looks like it > will do very nicely. If there's another camping RV-10 builder > who wants to join on the site, I can make mine look like I'm > by Gary's and we'll share. The more -10 builders, the merrier. > Just let us know. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > bcondrey wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey" > >> Sorry, no webcam but here are a couple of still shots. First one is > of our our sites. From right to left: my motorhome, Tim's site with a > canopy set up for additional shade, and Gary's motorhome with Gary in > front of it. We would have shown a mountain of beer cans but it's not > even 10:00 AM yet... >> Second shot is our sign at the intersection of Lindbergh and 57th. >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/rv_10_hq_02_192.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/rv_10_hq_01_139.jpg >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:09 PM PST US From: "Mark Ritter" Subject: RV10-List: N410MR First Flight --- MIME Errors - No Plain-Text Section Found --- A message with no text/plain MIME section was received. The entire body of the message was removed. Please resend the email using Plain Text formatting. HOTMAIL is notorious for only including an HTML section in their client's default configuration. If you're using HOTMAIL, please see your email application's settings and switch to a default mail option that uses "Plain Text". --- MIME Errors No Plain-Text Section Found --- ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:13 PM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: OshKosh __Tunnel heat --> RV10-List message posted by: David Maib Are any RV-10's flying with the Sam James cowling, and if so, are they having hot tunnel problems? David Maib Eagan, MN #40559 On Jul 22, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Mark Chamberlain wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> Chris, I have a flying 10 with 100hrs on it. I had no heat problems during the winter but have had plenty during the hotter months in SoCal. I have insulated the inside firewall and tunnel areas, firesleeved my tunnel fuel lines, disconnected the heat box scat tubes (and run them overboard), and extended my exhaust pipe( I have the original exhaust). None of these have solved the problem. When I am done flying, the entire circumference of the aircraft adjacent to the firewall is so hot you cannot touch the exterior. I also believe I am experiencing more than the "normal" injected engine fuel vapor problems that are sometimes present with hot engines. If you haven't already, go on the Doug Reeves RV website and look at the forum threads for the 10 and you will find talk relating to the tunnel heat issue. One guy claims to have fixed the problem and goes on to explain how he did it by insulating the belly on the outside as well as insulating the forward side of the firewall. Although I believe his theory is absolutely correct regarding the origination of the heat, I disagree that this is the final solution. You can do several things to alleviate the problem, but in my opinion the heat from the engine should not be that bad to begin with. In other words, you can resolve the tunnel heat issue, but it seems to me that there are factors ( maybe cowl design) that are not allowing the heat to escape the cowl area, thereby heating up the stainless steel firewall. I haven't seen any other RV models that have had to go to this length to keep heat off the firewall. Even though other RV's don't have tunnels, i'm sure if there was a lot of heat buildup on the other models, they would be complaining. Makes me wonder why the 10 is the only model with the vents under the cowl!! I am not an engineer, but it seems to me that the cowl needs some sort of modification to get the proper press differential from inlet to outlet that will help evacuate the engine heat better. Sorry to ramble, hope this helps. I do believe the ball is in Vans' court....especially with 600 kits sold. Mark (N104ML) www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List wiki.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:39 PM PST US From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: OSH arrival --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." Just let us know the address and we will call you as we get there -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:42 PM --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson I see no problems with that. It'll be nice to get to talk to you at length in person. I'm just in a small tent, and the sites run 15 x 30 or so. So we should be OK. If there's another tent that wants to join, we can probably accomodate that too. The vehicles would be the hardest part. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." > > Tim, we would like to join if possible, we will be in on Thursday, we > have a popup so need just a little room comparatively > THX > Dan > 40269 (N289DT) > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 12:15 PM > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > Bob, Thanks again for grabbing that site for me. Looks like it > will do very nicely. If there's another camping RV-10 builder > who wants to join on the site, I can make mine look like I'm > by Gary's and we'll share. The more -10 builders, the merrier. > Just let us know. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > bcondrey wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey" > >> Sorry, no webcam but here are a couple of still shots. First one is > of our our sites. From right to left: my motorhome, Tim's site with a > canopy set up for additional shade, and Gary's motorhome with Gary in > front of it. We would have shown a mountain of beer cans but it's not > even 10:00 AM yet... >> Second shot is our sign at the intersection of Lindbergh and 57th. >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/rv_10_hq_02_192.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/rv_10_hq_01_139.jpg >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:10:51 PM PST US From: "Marcus Cooper" Subject: RV10-List: Starter Problem I finally got to start my engine today for the first time which was quite motivational. However, after letting it run for a couple minutes and checking it over for leaks I tried to start it again. This time I was greeted by a horrendous squeal and the prop not spinning as fast as before while starting. I shut it all down and it appears the starter is no longer engaging properly. It wore a little of the outside aft edge of the flywheel and looks like either the starter gear is too small, or somehow it suddenly was able to drift a little further from the flywheel and no longer mates up properly. The starter mount nuts look secure and the factory paint cues are still in place so I am stumped. With the starter gear retracted it looks like the gears will just barely overlap when it extends. I am open to any and all thoughts, theories and suggestions. Thanks, Marcus (was hoping to get inspected today, delayed until next weekend - possibly more pending the engine issue) Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:27:45 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: OSH arrival --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Just call my cell just as you're about to get in the OSH area. I think it's 57th and Lindbergh. Not sure if we'll need to do some creative organization of car parking permits or not. I'll try to have it figured out by then. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." > > Just let us know the address and we will call you as we get there > > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 7:42 PM > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > > I see no problems with that. It'll be nice to get to talk to you > at length in person. I'm just in a small tent, and the sites run > 15 x 30 or so. So we should be OK. If there's another tent > that wants to join, we can probably accomodate that too. The > vehicles would be the hardest part. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." > >> Tim, we would like to join if possible, we will be in on Thursday, we >> have a popup so need just a little room comparatively >> THX >> Dan >> 40269 (N289DT) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 12:15 PM >> >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson >> >> Bob, Thanks again for grabbing that site for me. Looks like it >> will do very nicely. If there's another camping RV-10 builder >> who wants to join on the site, I can make mine look like I'm >> by Gary's and we'll share. The more -10 builders, the merrier. >> Just let us know. >> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >> do not archive >> >> >> bcondrey wrote: >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey" >> >>> Sorry, no webcam but here are a couple of still shots. First one is >> of our our sites. From right to left: my motorhome, Tim's site with a >> canopy set up for additional shade, and Gary's motorhome with Gary in >> front of it. We would have shown a mountain of beer cans but it's not >> even 10:00 AM yet... >>> Second shot is our sign at the intersection of Lindbergh and 57th. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> >>> Attachments: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/rv_10_hq_02_192.jpg >>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/rv_10_hq_01_139.jpg >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:45:56 PM PST US From: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> Subject: Re: RV10-List: OshKosh __Tunnel heat --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Chamberlain" <10flyer@verizon.net> Hey Sean, I used 3/8 inch supersoundproof under my front/ back floors and sidewalls. Attached it with sticky stuff adhesive spray from Spruce. The front floor area has remained cool with that, but probably because of the extra layer of sheet metal that your feet rest on. Not so effective in the tunnel area. Mark. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:20 PM PST US From: "Jae Chang" Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders Map --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jae Chang" Needless to say, I hope everyone has a good time at OSH. Someone related the trip to the day before xmas. Well, I feel like that (jewish, buddhist, atheist) kid without a tree or presents! Anyway, I hope to be there next year, for my first visit! After seeing Tim's OSH list, I was curious to see what the locations would look like on a map. To see the map, go to http://www.jline.com/tech/google/maps/rv10map.rhtml All data was obtained from the public OSH list, so there should not be any surprises. Only 129 or so of the 185 I culled from the list, had decipherable locations. A few builders from Europe also appeared on the map. Jae ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:56:07 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: RV-10 Builders Map --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Hey Jae, you've been busy!! Out of curiousity, did you ever see this list? http://www.frappr.com/rv10snorthamerica I don't know who started that one, but Mani passed it on to us a while back. It's amazing how many people there are, for one thing, and how you can hardly go anywhere without hitting a 10 builder. What a great crowd. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Jae Chang wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jae Chang" > > Needless to say, I hope everyone has a good time at OSH. Someone related > the trip to the day before xmas. Well, I feel like that (jewish, > buddhist, atheist) kid without a tree or presents! Anyway, I hope to be > there next year, for my first visit! > > After seeing Tim's OSH list, I was curious to see what the locations > would look like on a map. To see the map, go to > http://www.jline.com/tech/google/maps/rv10map.rhtml > > All data was obtained from the public OSH list, so there should not be > any surprises. Only 129 or so of the 185 I culled from the list, had > decipherable locations. A few builders from Europe also appeared on the > map. > > Jae >