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1. 04:34 AM - Re: Survey of the day: windshield visors (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 06:12 AM - Re: F-1073 hole too large (bob.kaufmann)
3. 06:12 AM - Re: Survey of the day: windshield visors (Bobby J. Hughes)
4. 08:25 AM - Re: Survey of the day: windshield visors (Deems Davis)
5. 08:54 AM - Re: Survey of the day: windshield visors (Tim Olson)
6. 08:55 AM - To close wings now or wait. (Vern W. Smith)
7. 09:41 AM - Re: Survey of the day: windshield visors (John Gonzalez)
8. 10:02 AM - Re: Survey of the day: windshield visors - Zach can you (Deems Davis)
9. 02:42 PM - Re: Insurance and what I had to do (Scott Gesele)
10. 04:36 PM - Re: AF3500 (Robert G. Wright)
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| Subject: | Re: Survey of the day: windshield visors |
I've been in communications with the sales manager from Rosen and he
says they are working on visors for the RV10. He told me they are
struggling with how to attach them to the canopy. I've sent him off a
couple of ideas but he says they have several other projects they are
working on so the RV10 isn't getting top priority right now.
I've had Rosen in my last two planes and I really liked them. Other than
that I may have to fall back on the old stick on the window thingies.
Wayne Edgerton # 40336
Engine work
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| Subject: | F-1073 hole too large |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
If it was me, I would take the static port to a machinist, and have him make
a new one, to fit the new hole. It may cost you, but a good machinist like
my neighbor can make it to fit any hole and still have the exact pressure,
static source. Actually, it would not take that good a machinist, just
someone with a lathe.
Bob K
Back from OSH and finally cooling down here in Nevada.
At least here it's a dry heat. LOL
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 1:56 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
John,
For me it would be...How much too big? Your scab patch on the inside my look
sorta OK, but as I understand it the Cleavland ports need to be installed so
the flat portion that extends out through the skin by a certain degree of
thousands of an inch, I don't recall the exact measurment to insure the
ports don't siphon air like a venturi, the small amount of protrusion makes
the air "burble" around the port so you get a true static pressure. You
would not get this by patching from behind then installing through the
patch.
So I would imagine you would have to mount that port in another hole then
patch your skins, which if you scab on a patch behind the existing hole you
could build up with epoxy filler and make a flush repair. Your call.....but
deep down it's more of a cosmetic thing....and if you want to buy new skins.
Rick S.
40185
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| Subject: | Survey of the day: windshield visors |
Maybe the gentleman who is machining the hardware parts for the 10's
could build a visor system. I can't remember his name at the moment. The
hard part would be the mount and rotating joint. Sliding aluminum track
with a locking device should be easy. Visor material should be easy to
come by. I had Rosen in my 172 and they sure make flying safer. I bet
most people would buy them if they where available at a fair price.
Bobby
40116
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Edgerton
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:31 AM
I've been in communications with the sales manager from Rosen and he
says they are working on visors for the RV10. He told me they are
struggling with how to attach them to the canopy. I've sent him off a
couple of ideas but he says they have several other projects they are
working on so the RV10 isn't getting top priority right now.
I've had Rosen in my last two planes and I really liked them. Other than
that I may have to fall back on the old stick on the window thingies.
Wayne Edgerton # 40336
Engine work
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| Subject: | Re: Survey of the day: windshield visors |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
How about a fixture that would clamp to the top of the centerbrace
support that ties the top of the canopy to the fwd fuse? Should be a
simple clamp-on device with tabs on either side for mounting the visors to.
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse
http://deemsrv10.com/
Wayne Edgerton wrote:
> I've been in communications with the sales manager from Rosen and he
> says they are working on visors for the RV10. He told me they are
> struggling with how to attach them to the canopy. I've sent him off a
> couple of ideas but he says they have several other projects they are
> working on so the RV10 isn't getting top priority right now.
>
> I've had Rosen in my last two planes and I really liked them. Other
> than that I may have to fall back on the old stick on the window thingies.
>
> Wayne Edgerton # 40336
>
> Engine work
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| Subject: | Re: Survey of the day: windshield visors |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Replying to both the below messages....
Deems, yes, that's one of the 2 options I was working with Rosen
on. The tube is about .895 diameter, and they don't have any
clamps of that size made yet. The bar is set a couple inches
back from the windshield, so it would need to have a T shape
behind the clamp, with the visors attached forward of the bar,
and when they swing up they'd have to be of the right size to clear
the door and side windows. That's the arrangement I have been
working with them on, but everything halted with their busy
contracts. The 2nd option I gave them was a screw in hinge
that would mount to the canopy top just behind the windshield
on that foam filled ridge. That would work too, but wouldn't
be swing able. FWIW, I don't think it's necessary to have them
swing to the side...if it were just available forward that
would be good.
Wayne, who's the guy you've been talking to? I've been
talking to Mike Fiske, and he's in direct communication
with the engineering team too. He also worked the booth
at SNF and OSH, but that was after I had already tracked
him down that I saw him there. I sure wish they had the
time. They did say though that if we were to come up with
everything, cutting the actual visors wouldn't be a big
problem.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Deems Davis wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
>
> How about a fixture that would clamp to the top of the centerbrace
> support that ties the top of the canopy to the fwd fuse? Should be a
> simple clamp-on device with tabs on either side for mounting the visors to.
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Fuse
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
> Wayne Edgerton wrote:
>
>> I've been in communications with the sales manager from Rosen and he
>> says they are working on visors for the RV10. He told me they are
>> struggling with how to attach them to the canopy. I've sent him off a
>> couple of ideas but he says they have several other projects they are
>> working on so the RV10 isn't getting top priority right now.
>>
>> I've had Rosen in my last two planes and I really liked them. Other
>> than that I may have to fall back on the old stick on the window
>> thingies.
>>
>> Wayne Edgerton # 40336
>>
>> Engine work
>
>
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| Subject: | To close wings now or wait. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
Michael & Rene'
Thanks for the advice on closing the wings. I'm going to jump in and
close them up now. Should be a breezy compared to dealing with proseal
and riveting on the fuel tanks!
Thanks again,
Vern (#40324 closing wings
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:20 PM
--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Tough one. Might be better to leave the skins open but you will hate
going back to it later. Pretty mindless riveting in the wings.
Michael
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
I waited on the bottom wing skins and don't think it helped much. I
have conduit in the wings for wire. I found riveting the bottom skin a
real pain........if I did it again, I would not put it off. Get the
wings done and out of the way...
Rene' Felker
----Original message-----
On a lighter note my fuel tanks and control surfaces are done:) I'm
trying to decide wither to finish the bottom wing skins or jump into the
fuselage and leave the wings open until later for easy of wiring and
autopilot installation. Any thoughts guys?
Vern (#40324)
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| Subject: | Re: Survey of the day: windshield visors |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
How about a Ram mount with the gooseneck arm and then going to a plastics
shop and getting a piece of colored plastric. This should mount on that
canterbrace.
JG. 409
>From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Survey of the day: windshield visors
>Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2006 08:21:26 -0700
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
>
>How about a fixture that would clamp to the top of the centerbrace support
>that ties the top of the canopy to the fwd fuse? Should be a simple
>clamp-on device with tabs on either side for mounting the visors to.
>
>Deems Davis # 406
>Fuse
>http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>Wayne Edgerton wrote:
>
>>I've been in communications with the sales manager from Rosen and he says
>>they are working on visors for the RV10. He told me they are struggling
>>with how to attach them to the canopy. I've sent him off a couple of ideas
>>but he says they have several other projects they are working on so the
>>RV10 isn't getting top priority right now.
>> I've had Rosen in my last two planes and I really liked them. Other than
>>that I may have to fall back on the old stick on the window thingies.
>> Wayne Edgerton # 40336
>> Engine work
>
>
>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Survey of the day: windshield visors - Zach can you |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Hey how about getting Zack's brother to machine these for us, cutting
the plexi is a no brainer.
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse/Finishing/Panel
http://deemsrv10.com/
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Replying to both the below messages....
>
> Deems, yes, that's one of the 2 options I was working with Rosen
> on. The tube is about .895 diameter, and they don't have any
> clamps of that size made yet. The bar is set a couple inches
> back from the windshield, so it would need to have a T shape
> behind the clamp, with the visors attached forward of the bar,
> and when they swing up they'd have to be of the right size to clear
> the door and side windows. That's the arrangement I have been
> working with them on, but everything halted with their busy
> contracts. The 2nd option I gave them was a screw in hinge
> that would mount to the canopy top just behind the windshield
> on that foam filled ridge. That would work too, but wouldn't
> be swing able. FWIW, I don't think it's necessary to have them
> swing to the side...if it were just available forward that
> would be good.
>
> Wayne, who's the guy you've been talking to? I've been
> talking to Mike Fiske, and he's in direct communication
> with the engineering team too. He also worked the booth
> at SNF and OSH, but that was after I had already tracked
> him down that I saw him there. I sure wish they had the
> time. They did say though that if we were to come up with
> everything, cutting the actual visors wouldn't be a big
> problem.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Deems Davis wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
>>
>> How about a fixture that would clamp to the top of the centerbrace
>> support that ties the top of the canopy to the fwd fuse? Should be a
>> simple clamp-on device with tabs on either side for mounting the
>> visors to.
>>
>> Deems Davis # 406
>> Fuse
>> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>
>> Wayne Edgerton wrote:
>>
>>> I've been in communications with the sales manager from Rosen and he
>>> says they are working on visors for the RV10. He told me they are
>>> struggling with how to attach them to the canopy. I've sent him off
>>> a couple of ideas but he says they have several other projects they
>>> are working on so the RV10 isn't getting top priority right now.
>>>
>>> I've had Rosen in my last two planes and I really liked them. Other
>>> than that I may have to fall back on the old stick on the window
>>> thingies.
>>>
>>> Wayne Edgerton # 40336
>>>
>>> Engine work
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance and what I had to do |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Scott Gesele <sgesele@yahoo.com>
> Time: 06:34:20 AM PST US
> From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: Insurance and what I had to do
> to get coverage.
>
> Once the
> 25 hrs were flown off, I started getting dual in my
> own RV-10 since from
> an insurance perspective, the test pilots were on
> the policy and are the
> Pilot in Command while I'm receiving dual. After 2
> hours of dual with
> my examiner friend, he signed off my high
> performance. Now I was able
> to log PIC for each hour of dual I was receiving in
> my own plane. >
> Thank You
> Ray Doerr
> 40250
>
> N519RV (Flying)
Ray,
Are you aware that you did not need the high
performance endorsement to start logging PIC in the
10? During the first two hours that you referenced,
you could have also logged that as PIC.
A high performance endorsement is required to act as
PIC. Your examiner friend, with the endorsement, was
the acting PIC.
The endorsement is just that, an endorsement and not a
rating. Even without it, you are still rated in the
aircraft (ASEL).
"(e) Logging pilot-in-command flight time.
(1) A sport, recreational, private, or commercial
pilot may log pilot-in-command time only for that
flight time during which that person
(i) Is the sole manipulator of the controls of an
aircraft for which the pilot is rated or has
privileges;"
The regs state "rated OR has privileges". You do not
have 'privileges' without the endorsement, but you are
'rated' (ASEL). The word 'or' indicates that only one
of these conditions must be true for you to log the
time.
Scott Gesele
__________________________________________________
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick
Roger, but is the 5.5" the size of the face? I've seen some side views of
EFISs and the subpanel tube is mounted toward the bottom of the screen,
which gives a bunch of room to the ribs.
Rob
#392
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 12:21 AM
5.5" + connectors
http://www.advanced-control-systems.com/Support/AF-3500%20Dimensions.pdf
Rick S.
40185
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