RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 08/04/06


Total Messages Posted: 39



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:01 AM - Re: New To The List (Albert Gardner)
     2. 04:53 AM - IO-540-C4B5 engine choice (Belue, Kevin)
     3. 06:16 AM - Re: -10's for sale in quantity, available today (Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk))
     4. 06:58 AM - Overhead Console (W. Curtis)
     5. 07:15 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Deems Davis)
     6. 07:35 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Brian Douglas)
     7. 08:18 AM - Re: Survey of the day: windshield visors (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
     8. 08:25 AM - I'm a new RV10 builder (Maule Driver)
     9. 09:13 AM - Re: I'm a new RV10 builder (Michael Schipper)
    10. 09:21 AM - Re: Overhead Console (John W. Cox)
    11. 09:32 AM - Re: Overhead Console (W. Curtis)
    12. 09:33 AM - Re: New To The List (Rick)
    13. 09:36 AM - Re: I'm a new RV10 builder (Rick)
    14. 09:39 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Rick)
    15. 09:39 AM - Re: I'm a new RV10 builder (John Jessen)
    16. 10:01 AM - Re: Overhead Console (John W. Cox)
    17. 10:32 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Randy DeBauw)
    18. 10:33 AM - Re: New To The List (jdalton77)
    19. 10:50 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Jae Chang)
    20. 10:53 AM - Re: I'm a new RV10 builder (Phillips, Jack)
    21. 10:57 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    22. 11:21 AM - Re: I'm a new RV10 builder (Eric_Kallio)
    23. 11:21 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Michael Schipper)
    24. 11:28 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Bobby J. Hughes)
    25. 11:30 AM - Re: Overhead Console (John Lenhardt)
    26. 12:26 PM - Re: Overhead Console (JOHN STARN)
    27. 12:26 PM - Re: Overhead Console (Tim Olson)
    28. 12:26 PM - Re: New To The List (Tim Olson)
    29. 12:44 PM - Re: -10's for sale in quantity, available today (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    30. 12:52 PM - Re: Overhead Console (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    31. 12:53 PM - Re: Overhead Console (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    32. 01:07 PM - Re: New To The List (Rick)
    33. 01:10 PM - Re: Overhead Console (John W. Cox)
    34. 01:42 PM - Re: Overhead Console (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    35. 03:03 PM - Re: Overhead Console (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    36. 05:21 PM - Re: Overhead Console (John N. Strain II)
    37. 08:00 PM - Re: Overhead Console (Robert G. Wright)
    38. 08:00 PM - Re: Overhead Console (Robert G. Wright)
    39. 10:51 PM - Re: Overhead Console (JOHN STARN)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:01:54 AM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
    Subject: New To The List
    I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned this but if you are a new builder, look for the nearest EAA chapter and introduce yourself. If you're lucky, someone else will be building the same plane you are, if not, there is an incredible amount of talent and experience available. The guys will bend over backward to lend a hand, advice, whatever. If you need special tools, a bolt or rivet or just a helping hand on occasion it will be there. Additionally, I have made many new friends as well as built a RV-9A and halfway finished an RV-10. Oh, and be sure to ask them which primer is the best. Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ


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    Time: 04:53:33 AM PST US
    From: "Belue, Kevin" <KBelue@drs-tem.com>
    Subject: IO-540-C4B5 engine choice
    Thanks everyone for the engine info. Kevin _____ Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 5:21 PM Additionally, Certificated airplanes either call for the C4B5 or the D4A5. The Piper Aztec uses the "C4B5" which is rated for 250 HP at 2575 RPM. The EXACT SAME engine turning at 2700 RPM gives you 260 HP, and this is the designation of "D4A5." I just went through this last night with my overhauler who wrote in my engine logbook ...C4B5... As an experimental builder I just run the engine at 2700 RPM and I'll be operating a D4A5. This is not overrunning the engine like stroking or high compression pistons does, and reaching recommended TBO should be a non-issue as long as you take care of your engine. you arrive at each derivative starting from an O-540-ALA. <html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <!--[if !mso]> <style> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} </style> <![endif]--><o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/> <!--[if !mso]> <style> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } </style> <![endif]--> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Century Schoolbook"; panose-1:2 4 6 4 5 5 5 2 3 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:"Century Schoolbook"; color:blue; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none none;} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal; font-family:Arial; color:navy;} span.EmailStyle22 {mso-style-type:personal-reply; font-family:"Century Schoolbook"; color:blue; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text-decoration:none none;} @page Section1 {size:11.0in 8.5in; margin:1.0in .5in 1.0in .5in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style> <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" /> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:shapelayout v:ext="edit"> <o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" /> </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> </head> <body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Century Schoolbook"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook";color:blue'>Thanks everyone for the engine info.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Century Schoolbook"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook";color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><i><font size=3 color=blue face="Century Schoolbook"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Century Schoolbook"; color:blue;font-style:italic'>Kevin <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></b></strong></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p > <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p > </div> <div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'> <div> <div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </span></font></div> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Robert G. Wright [mailto:armywrights@adelphia.net] <br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 03, 2006 5:21 PM<br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">rv10-list@matronics.com</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: RV10-List: IO-540-C4B5 engine choice</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Additionally, Certificated airplanes either call for the C4B5 or the D4A5.&nbsp; The Piper Aztec uses the "C4B5" which is rated for 250 HP at 2575 RPM.&nbsp; The EXACT SAME engine turning at 2700 RPM gives you 260 HP, and this is the designation of "D4A5."&nbsp; I just went through this last night with my overhauler who wrote in my engine logbook ...C4B5... As an experimental builder I just run the engine at 2700 RPM and I'll be operating a D4A5.&nbsp; This is not overrunning the engine like stroking or high compression pistons does, and reaching recommended TBO should be a non-issue as long as you take care of your engine.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>From the Lycoming webpages here's an excerpt for the C4B5, the D4A5, and how you arrive at each derivative starting from an O-540-ALA.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <div> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size: 12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p> </div> </div> </div> </body> </html>


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    Time: 06:16:44 AM PST US
    From: "Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk)" <BSchroeder@uta.cog.ut.us>
    Subject: -10's for sale in quantity, available today
    Thanks for the insight James. I just hope that this situation doesn't make things harder for us! -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Clark Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 2:32 PM Bob, "Big Brother" already is aware of the "bending of the rules". The discussions here are about insuring that our "hobby" is not crippled by those who might blatantly violate the rules. If the rules are violated then either they will get changed or enforcement could end up "over the top". I don't think anyone is concerned about a builder who builds a plane, flys it for a few years, decides to sell it and build something different for yet another REAL educational experience. Actually I think there is value in "Big Brother" seeing that there are some (many. many) builders who ARE in the mode of SELF-POLICING. James On 8/3/06, Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) <BSchroeder@uta.cog.ut.us> wrote: John, don't get me wrong. I can't afford to do that either. As a matter of fact I sold my RV10 and got an RV6A solely because I can't afford to build the 10. Still, I guess <<<SNIP>>> n years). I'm just saying that putting the spot light on the situation for "big brother" to stick his nose under the edge of the tent as it were, is just asking for rules designed for the lowest common denominator in people have an adverse affect on the rest of us that play by the rules. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Lenhardt Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 3:11 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10's for sale in quantity, available today The point of the "51% Rule" is to permit you, the amateur, to design and build your own airplane that you can fly in the National Airspace system without having to go the "certified" route because it is for your own education and enjoyment. The intent is not to manufacture airplanes. That's what we're talking about here. If you want to build and sell airplanes, become an aircraft manufacturer like Piper or Cessna and get the your aircraft certified to Part 23 standards. John #40262 ----- Original Message ----- From: Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) <mailto:BSchroeder@uta.cog.ut.us> If on the other hand I just have lots of money and don't care if the local FBO rakes me over the coals to work on my "experimental aircraft" then why would anyone care except for the people involved? It seems to me that some people are upset because someone else can do something that they cannot do (jealous or some other feeling) so lets put a spot light on the situation. -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com .


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    Time: 06:58:26 AM PST US
    From: "W. Curtis" <wcurtis@core.com>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    <p>When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10, I asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for &quot;overhead console blazer&quot; will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look to the RV-10 I had to have one. The following link is from Deems site of Debbie's RV10. <a href="http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03080.JPG">http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03080.JPG</a></p><p>Also, if anyone wants to bid on this one, please do so as I have already won one on another auction and are currently the high bidder on this one. Wanted to make sure I got one. <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ih=009&amp;item=1! 90014870966&amp;rd=1&amp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&amp;rd=1</a><http: ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&ih="009&item=190014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1" /></p> William Curtis SB Fuselage - 40237 http://nerv10.com/


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    Time: 07:15:19 AM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Console
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> DON'T ANYBODY BID ON THIS (I already did, ;-) ) THANKS BILL! Deems Davis # 406 Fuse/Finishing/Panel http://deemsrv10.com/ W. Curtis wrote: > When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10, I > asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it > from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy > S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for "overhead console blazer" > will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look > to the RV-10 I had to have one. The following link is from Deems site > of Debbie's RV10. > http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03080.JPG > > Also, if anyone wants to bid on this one, please do so as I have > already won one on another auction and are currently the high bidder > on this one. Wanted to make sure I got one. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1 > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1> > > > William Curtis > SB Fuselage - 40237 > http://nerv10.com/


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    Time: 07:35:29 AM PST US
    From: "Brian Douglas" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Console
    A friend of mine used the same blazer overhead console in his Glasair III. He got it from the local junk yard for $30 so that may be another option besides eBay. -Brian #40497 N211BD Iowa City, IA ----- Original Message ----- From: W. Curtis To: RV10-List@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:53 AM Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Console When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10, I asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for "overhead console blazer" will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look to the RV-10 I had to have one. The following link is from Deems site of Debbie's RV10. http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03080.JPG Also, if anyone wants to bid on this one, please do so as I have already won one on another auction and are currently the high bidder on this one. Wanted to make sure I got one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item= 190014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1 William Curtis SB Fuselage - 40237 http://nerv10.com/


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    Time: 08:18:38 AM PST US
    From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
    Subject: Survey of the day: windshield visors
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> How about machining a block of aluminum that is thin in the center that has the four bolts holes that fasten the bar to the canopy. Then the metal hanging out on each side could have screw holes to attach the visors on each side. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 N519RV (Flying) -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 10:53 AM --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Replying to both the below messages.... Deems, yes, that's one of the 2 options I was working with Rosen on. The tube is about .895 diameter, and they don't have any clamps of that size made yet. The bar is set a couple inches back from the windshield, so it would need to have a T shape behind the clamp, with the visors attached forward of the bar, and when they swing up they'd have to be of the right size to clear the door and side windows. That's the arrangement I have been working with them on, but everything halted with their busy contracts. The 2nd option I gave them was a screw in hinge that would mount to the canopy top just behind the windshield on that foam filled ridge. That would work too, but wouldn't be swing able. FWIW, I don't think it's necessary to have them swing to the side...if it were just available forward that would be good. Wayne, who's the guy you've been talking to? I've been talking to Mike Fiske, and he's in direct communication with the engineering team too. He also worked the booth at SNF and OSH, but that was after I had already tracked him down that I saw him there. I sure wish they had the time. They did say though that if we were to come up with everything, cutting the actual visors wouldn't be a big problem. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Deems Davis wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> > > How about a fixture that would clamp to the top of the centerbrace > support that ties the top of the canopy to the fwd fuse? Should be a > simple clamp-on device with tabs on either side for mounting the visors to. > > Deems Davis # 406 > Fuse > http://deemsrv10.com/ > > Wayne Edgerton wrote: > >> I've been in communications with the sales manager from Rosen and he >> says they are working on visors for the RV10. He told me they are >> struggling with how to attach them to the canopy. I've sent him off a >> couple of ideas but he says they have several other projects they are >> working on so the RV10 isn't getting top priority right now. >> >> I've had Rosen in my last two planes and I really liked them. Other >> than that I may have to fall back on the old stick on the window >> thingies. >> >> Wayne Edgerton # 40336 >> >> Engine work > >


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    Time: 08:25:27 AM PST US
    From: Maule Driver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: I'm a new RV10 builder
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Maule Driver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> I would like to introduce myself to the list. My name is Bill Watson in Durham NC. I just purchased the tail kit and it's being shipped to the Alexander Tech Center for a week long tail building session later this month. This my first building experience. The -10 appears to be the perfect project for my buddy/spouse and myself. Metal construction, Vans quality, grass field compatible, two seats and space for all the shoes she needs.. I currently own a Maule and live on a strip with an overly large hangar that no longer looks too large. I added an enclosed and air conditioned shop within the hangar and am ready to go. Thanks to all of you that maintain the various builder sites! Fantastic resources. I've been lurking on this list for 6months+ so a big thanks to all of you who participate. The journey begins. Bill Watson, aka MauleDriver 8NC8 Durham NC DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:13:00 AM PST US
    From: Michael Schipper <mike@learningplanet.com>
    Subject: Re: I'm a new RV10 builder
    Hi Bill, Welcome to the list, and congratulations. It sounds like you've done your homework and are ready to roll. Be sure to pass along your experience with the Alexander Tech Center. I know there are folks on here who are interested. Regards, Mike Schipper 40576 - Emp. - www.rvten.com RV-9A - N63MS - Flying - www.my9a.com On Aug 4, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Maule Driver wrote: > I would like to introduce myself to the list. My name is Bill > Watson in Durham NC. I just purchased the tail kit and it's being > shipped to the Alexander Tech Center for a week long tail building > session later this month. > > This my first building experience. The -10 appears to be the > perfect project for my buddy/spouse and myself. Metal > construction, Vans quality, grass field compatible, two seats and > space for all the shoes she needs.. I currently own a Maule and > live on a strip with an overly large hangar that no longer looks > too large. I added an enclosed and air conditioned shop within the > hangar and am ready to go. > > Thanks to all of you that maintain the various builder sites! > Fantastic resources. I've been lurking on this list for 6months+ > so a big thanks to all of you who participate. > > The journey begins. > > Bill Watson, aka MauleDriver > 8NC8 Durham NC > > DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:21:00 AM PST US
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Hopefully, Tony is monitoring this, cause there are sure a lot available overhead consoles at a reasonable price. Debbie, your quality was beyond comment. Beautiful aircraft and I was hurt not to see you taking home an award. It's a winner in my book. Watch S-10 Blazers jump on the stolen auto list as the 10 builders follow Deems purchase and bypass Ebay. John Cox -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:11 AM --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> DON'T ANYBODY BID ON THIS (I already did, ;-) ) THANKS BILL! Deems Davis # 406 Fuse/Finishing/Panel http://deemsrv10.com/ W. Curtis wrote: > When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10, I > asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it > from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy > S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for "overhead console blazer" > will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look > to the RV-10 I had to have one. The following link is from Deems site > of Debbie's RV10. > http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03080.JPG > > Also, if anyone wants to bid on this one, please do so as I have > already won one on another auction and are currently the high bidder > on this one. Wanted to make sure I got one. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190 014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1 > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=19 0014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1> > > > William Curtis > SB Fuselage - 40237 > http://nerv10.com/


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    Time: 09:32:13 AM PST US
    From: "W. Curtis" <wcurtis@core.com>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Console
    <pre>I see this unit is up to $51 plus $25 shipping. I would not get into a bidding war since there are many available.</pre><pre><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190014871230&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ih=009&amp;item=190014871230&amp;rd=1&amp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&amp;rd=1</a></pre><pre><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190014886014&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ih=009&amp;item=190014886014&amp;rd=1&amp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&amp;rd=1</a></pre><pre><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190015304789&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ih=009&amp;item=190015304789&amp;rd=1&amp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&amp;rd=1</a></pre><pre><a hre! f="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=003&item=130012625611&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ih=003&amp;item=130012625611&amp;rd=1&amp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&amp;rd=1</a></pre><pre><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&item=320013760493&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ih=011&amp;item=320013760493&amp;rd=1&amp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&amp;rd=1</a></pre><pre><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=011&item=320013706006&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ih=011&amp;item=320013706006&amp;rd=1&amp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&amp;rd=1</a></pre><pre>DO NOT ARCHIVE</pre><pre>&gt;--&gt; RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis &lt;<a href="mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net>>%20DON'T">deemsdavis@cox.! net&gt; &gt; DON'T</a> ANYBODY BID ON THIS (I already did, ;-) ) &gt; &gt;THANKS BILL! &gt; &gt;Deems Davis # 406 &gt;Fuse/Finishing/Panel &gt;<a href="http://deemsrv10.com/">http://deemsrv10.com/</a> &gt; &gt;W. Curtis wrote: &gt; &gt; When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10, I &gt; asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it &gt; from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy &gt; S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for &quot;overhead console blazer&quot; &gt; will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look &gt; to the RV-10 I had to have one. The following link is from Deems site &gt; of Debbie's RV10. &gt; <a href="http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03080.JPG">http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03080.JPG</a> &gt; &gt; Also, if anyone wants to bid on this one, please do so as I have &gt; already won one on another auction and are currently the high bidder &gt; on this one. Wanted to make sure I got one. &gt; <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ih=009&amp;item=190014870966&amp;rd=1&amp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&amp;rd=1</a> &gt; <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1>">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;ih=009&amp;item=190014870966&amp;rd=1&amp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&amp;rd=1&gt;</a></pre><pre> William Curtis SB Fuselage - 40237 <a href="http://nerv10.com/">http://nerv10.com/</a> </pre>


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    Time: 09:33:08 AM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: New To The List
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    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
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    Time: 09:39:53 AM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> I have Tony's contact info, I'm having him work up my fiberglass panel/console and overhead. He has some pretty trick window trim rings too. I'll post to Tim's site if he wants too. The photos are too big for the list. Rick S. 40185


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    Time: 09:39:53 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: I'm a new RV10 builder
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Welcome! As you know, from your lurking, this is a great list for information and help and good camaraderie. John Jessen do not archive -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Maule Driver Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:21 AM --> RV10-List message posted by: Maule Driver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> I would like to introduce myself to the list. My name is Bill Watson in Durham NC. I just purchased the tail kit and it's being shipped to the Alexander Tech Center for a week long tail building session later this month. This my first building experience. The -10 appears to be the perfect project for my buddy/spouse and myself. Metal construction, Vans quality, grass field compatible, two seats and space for all the shoes she needs.. I currently own a Maule and live on a strip with an overly large hangar that no longer looks too large. I added an enclosed and air conditioned shop within the hangar and am ready to go. Thanks to all of you that maintain the various builder sites! Fantastic resources. I've been lurking on this list for 6months+ so a big thanks to all of you who participate. The journey begins. Bill Watson, aka MauleDriver 8NC8 Durham NC DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 10:01:35 AM PST US
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> If you send a CDROM to Tim with the pictures, I will reimburse you for the shipping expense. John Cox -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:37 AM --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> I have Tony's contact info, I'm having him work up my fiberglass panel/console and overhead. He has some pretty trick window trim rings too. I'll post to Tim's site if he wants too. The photos are too big for the list. Rick S. 40185


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    Time: 10:32:23 AM PST US
    From: "Randy DeBauw" <Randy@abros.com>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    ________________________________ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of W. Curtis Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 6:54 AM When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10, I asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for "overhead console blazer" will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look to the RV-10 I had to have one. The following link is from Deems site of Debbie's RV10. http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03080.JPG Also, if anyone wants to bid on this one, please do so as I have already won one on another auction and are currently the high bidder on this one. Wanted to make sure I got one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item= 190 014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1 William Curtis SB Fuselage - 40237 http://nerv10.com/


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    Time: 10:33:46 AM PST US
    From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: New To The List
    Welcome! JUST DO IT! That's what I did - and I'm into the fuselage now and having a ball. a.. How difficult is it to follow the building instructions? b.. EASY! I'm not too mechanical and am having no problem. There are also tons of websites that can help you if you get stuck. c.. How much space is required? My wife has graciously donated 2 of the 3 bays in our garage (provided her car doesn't winter outside). I expect to have a 20' x 20' space available. Is this sufficient for all but the final assembly? d.. I'm doing mine in a 24x32' garage. I won't be able to put the wings on here. That'll have to happen in the hangar. I'm still debating if I'm going to paint it here or not. I am priming it in the garage though. e.. The Van info includes a flyer from AIR-CRAFTERS who operate a build center. They suggest that I can build the -10 tail kit in 10 days at their facility after teaching me to do things right. Does anyone have experience with this firm? Is this a worthwhile investment? f.. I chose to build at home and completed the tail very quickly on my own. I know some people love the build center, but I think I would have missed out on a lot of interesting building if I had gone there. g.. What things should a first time builder be wary of? h.. You'll need lots of time, lot's of tools, and a very understanding family to get this done. You can get a lot of tools cheap at Harbor Freight, but some of them you'll need the real thing and they aint cheap. BY THE WAY, IT'S A $40,000 test ride and that's before the engine and avionics (includes $5k in stuff you'll need just to put the tail together . . . a.. b.. ----- Original Message ----- From: Les Kearney To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:04 PM Subject: RV10-List: New To The List Hi I want to introduce my self to the -10 List. During an evening discussion last week at KOSH, I was chatting with an acquaintance about homebuilt and how I want to build *something* *someday*. In past years I had looked at some of the plastic designs but I am a bit wary of putting a lot of time & money into these designs. My acquaintance suggested that I look at the RV-10. To make a long story short, I was quite impressed with the aluminum design, match drilled quick build kit and performance specs of the -10. For the moment, my investment is limited to the info kits sold at the Van booth at KOSH. What I am doing is sorting out the logistics of building an a/c. This includes finding out what builder support is available locally and seeing what sheet metal courses are available at the local trade school. I am also researching Canadian building / inspection / certification requirements etc. I do have a few questions for the list, questions that may help me decide if I want to take Van's $30k demo ride. a.. How difficult is it to follow the building instructions? b.. How much space is required? My wife has graciously donated 2 of the 3 bays in our garage (provided her car doesn't winter outside). I expect to have a 20' x 20' space available. Is this sufficient for all but the final assembly? c.. The Van info includes a flyer from AIR-CRAFTERS who operate a build center. They suggest that I can build the -10 tail kit in 10 days at their facility after teaching me to do things right. Does anyone have experience with this firm? Is this a worthwhile investment? d.. What things should a first time builder be wary of? Cheers Les Kearney Alberta, Canada


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    Time: 10:50:26 AM PST US
    From: "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    Does anyone else find it ironic, that we are all oogling over a $50 6 year old USED car part, to put into our brand new $100,000+ airplanes?! Jae


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    Time: 10:53:58 AM PST US
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    Subject: I'm a new RV10 builder
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com> Bill, I'm only slightly ahead (or possibly behind) of you - got my tail kit last week and have already ordered a new vertical stabilizer skin to replace the one that my wife and I managed to dimple a hole in where no hole existed before. The Alexander experience should prevent such blunders. By the way, John Jessen has an excellent website that goes through the building process step by step. You can find it at: http://www.soundingsresearch.com/RV-10/Home.htm I'm located about 40 miles south of you in New Hill, NC. I have flown my RV-4 into Lakeridge airport where you are located many times. It is based at Cox Field in Apex, NC. I drive by Lakeridge every morning on the way to work in Creedmoor. Good luck with the building process! Jack Phillips #40610 New Hill, NC -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:36 PM --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Welcome! As you know, from your lurking, this is a great list for information and help and good camaraderie. John Jessen do not archive -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Maule Driver Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:21 AM --> RV10-List message posted by: Maule Driver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com> I would like to introduce myself to the list. My name is Bill Watson in Durham NC. I just purchased the tail kit and it's being shipped to the Alexander Tech Center for a week long tail building session later this month. This my first building experience. The -10 appears to be the perfect project for my buddy/spouse and myself. Metal construction, Vans quality, grass field compatible, two seats and space for all the shoes she needs.. I currently own a Maule and live on a strip with an overly large hangar that no longer looks too large. I added an enclosed and air conditioned shop within the hangar and am ready to go. Thanks to all of you that maintain the various builder sites! Fantastic resources. I've been lurking on this list for 6months+ so a big thanks to all of you who participate. The journey begins. Bill Watson, aka MauleDriver 8NC8 Durham NC DO NOT ARCHIVE _________________________________________________


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    Time: 10:57:32 AM PST US
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    Well, you could always get an overhead console from a Mercedes . . . TDT do not archive ________________________________ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:46 PM Does anyone else find it ironic, that we are all oogling over a $50 6 year old USED car part, to put into our brand new $100,000+ airplanes?! Jae


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    Time: 11:21:13 AM PST US
    From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: I'm a new RV10 builder
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> Bill, Alexander is a great experience and there is no better way to jump into the project than with a little guidance. Jacob is very knowledgeable and great to work with, If you remember tell him Eric and Jenna say hello. I went through there the end of February. Best money that I have spent in a long time, with the exception of buying the kit itself of course. They keep you pointed in the right direction and help you develop proper work practices. The won't do the build for you...which is a good thing...what they do is build your experience and confidence, and do some of the monotonous work, i.e. deburring, some match drilling, and priming. When you leave the project won't seem as daunting. Be prepared for some LONG days, but you will hardly notice the time fly by. Let us know how it goes for you down there. You will find this list to be a great resource for questions and plenty of opinions and good ideas. we are fortunate to have several builders that are flying that are still active on the board and are more than willing to assist others. To me that says alot about the people in our ever growing community. Welcome and enjoy the build. Eric Kallio 518 awaiting SB wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=52338#52338


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    Time: 11:21:13 AM PST US
    From: Michael Schipper <mike@learningplanet.com>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Console
    That's how you keep it from turning into a $200,000 airplane. :-) Mike Schipper 40576 - Emp. - www.rvten.com RV-9A - N63MS - Flying - www.my9a.com Do Not Archive On Aug 4, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Jae Chang wrote: > Does anyone else find it ironic, that we are all oogling over a $50 > 6 year old USED car part, to put into our brand new $100,000+ > airplanes?! > > Jae


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    Time: 11:28:11 AM PST US
    From: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    I purchased one last year from a Astro Van... Mine sounds cooler. Bobby 40116 ________________________________ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:54 PM Well, you could always get an overhead console from a Mercedes . . . TDT do not archive ________________________________ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:46 PM Does anyone else find it ironic, that we are all oogling over a $50 6 year old USED car part, to put into our brand new $100,000+ airplanes?! Jae


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    Time: 11:30:22 AM PST US
    From: "John Lenhardt" <av8or@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Console
    MessageActually, it's sad, but I'm still calling my local junkyard..... :) John Lenhardt #40262 Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Jae Chang To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:46 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console Does anyone else find it ironic, that we are all oogling over a $50 6 year old USED car part, to put into our brand new $100,000+ airplanes?! Jae


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    Time: 12:26:13 PM PST US
    From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Console
    MessageNot if the "shoe" fits. Why re-invent the "wheel" ?.....AGAIN..... A 100K airplane with .06 cent pop rivets and glue for static source ? ?. BUT that's why it's called an "experimental" aircraft. Build it YOUR way. Do Not Archive....did not trim as it was a very short post. KABONG HRII N561FS (GBA & GWB) ----- Original Message ----- From: Jae Chang To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console Does anyone else find it ironic, that we are all oogling over a $50 6 year old USED car part, to put into our brand new $100,000+ airplanes?! Jae


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    Time: 12:26:13 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Console
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Just send 'em in. Beware, my inbox is set to not handle anything more than 1GB at a time. ;) Tim Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Rick wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> > > I have Tony's contact info, I'm having him work up my fiberglass panel/console and overhead. He has some pretty trick window trim rings too. I'll post to Tim's site if he wants too. The photos are too big for the list. > > Rick S. > 40185 >


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    Time: 12:26:13 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: New To The List
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Rick, you really liked that ol' Golden Rivet comment from way back, didn't you. ;) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive >Two > ways to do things, the acceptable standards method aka "John Cox method" > and the other method which is wrong and the one rivet you think is > really OK is the golden rivet that will fail and the ship will fully > delaminate and flutter to the ground.


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    Time: 12:44:15 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: -10's for sale in quantity, available today
    Cubbies! Sorry, a bit behind again in email. :P Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on moving Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 3:55 PM How 'bout them Red Sox?!? TDT Do not archive ________________________________ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Clark Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 4:32 PM Bob, "Big Brother" already is aware of the "bending of the rules". The discussions here are about insuring that our "hobby" is not crippled by those who might blatantly violate the rules. If the rules are violated then either they will get changed or enforcement could end up "over the top". I don't think anyone is concerned about a builder who builds a plane, flys it for a few years, decides to sell it and build something different for yet another REAL educational experience. Actually I think there is value in "Big Brother" seeing that there are some (many. many) builders who ARE in the mode of SELF-POLICING. James On 8/3/06, Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) <BSchroeder@uta.cog.ut.us> wrote: John, don't get me wrong. I can't afford to do that either. As a matter of fact I sold my RV10 and got an RV6A solely because I can't afford to build the 10. Still, I guess <<<SNIP>>> n years). I'm just saying that putting the spot light on the situation for "big brother" to stick his nose under the edge of the tent as it were, is just asking for rules designed for the lowest common denominator in people have an adverse affect on the rest of us that play by the rules. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Lenhardt Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 3:11 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10's for sale in quantity, available today The point of the "51% Rule" is to permit you, the amateur, to design and build your own airplane that you can fly in the National Airspace system without having to go the "certified" route because it is for your own education and enjoyment. The intent is not to manufacture airplanes. That's what we're talking about here. If you want to build and sell airplanes, become an aircraft manufacturer like Piper or Cessna and get the your aircraft certified to Part 23 standards. John #40262 ----- Original Message ----- From: Schroeder, Bob (Parts Clerk) <mailto:BSchroeder@uta.cog.ut.us> If on the other hand I just have lots of money and don't care if the local FBO rakes me over the coals to work on my "experimental aircraft" then why would anyone care except for the people involved? It seems to me that some people are upset because someone else can do something that they cannot do (jealous or some other feeling) so lets put a spot light on the situation. -- This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at james@nextupventures.com .


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    Time: 12:52:19 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    I got mine last fall off of eBay for $30. It was brand new surplus from a dealer that ordered it for a customer that never picked it up. Geeze not bad, I managed to keep this a secret for almost a year, unless you happened to look at my log that is. :-) Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on nothing Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Douglas Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:32 AM A friend of mine used the same blazer overhead console in his Glasair III. He got it from the local junk yard for $30 so that may be another option besides eBay. -Brian #40497 N211BD Iowa City, IA ----- Original Message ----- From: W. Curtis <mailto:wcurtis@core.com> To: RV10-List@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:53 AM Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Console When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10, I asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for "overhead console blazer" will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look to the RV-10 I had to have one. The following link is from Deems site of Debbie's RV10. http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03080.JPG Also, if anyone wants to bid on this one, please do so as I have already won one on another auction and are currently the high bidder on this one. Wanted to make sure I got one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item= 190 014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1 William Curtis SB Fuselage - 40237 http://nerv10.com/


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    Time: 12:53:57 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    Hmmm, maybe I should put a Roll's angel on the front of my cowl for that extra bling. I can't believe I said bling. See Tim, you just take us all to that dark place where the child is giggling. HA! Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on Fuselage Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 12:54 PM Well, you could always get an overhead console from a Mercedes . . . TDT do not archive ________________________________ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 1:46 PM Does anyone else find it ironic, that we are all oogling over a $50 6 year old USED car part, to put into our brand new $100,000+ airplanes?! Jae


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    Time: 01:07:46 PM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: New To The List
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> Heh heh...yup. I related it to the golden BB that fighter jocks were always worried about. You got this nifty stealth fighter but when the sky is full of triple A, some gunner might just get lucky, hence the golden BB. Rick S. 40185 do not archive


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    Time: 01:10:00 PM PST US
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    Jae, to place it into perspective you need to grasp the price of Tony's if you don't oogle one quickly. John ________________________________ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 10:46 AM Does anyone else find it ironic, that we are all oogling over a $50 6 year old USED car part, to put into our brand new $100,000+ airplanes?! Jae


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    Time: 01:42:51 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    Hey! I want to get one with "OnStar" . . . : ) TDT Do not archive ________________________________ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 3:49 PM I got mine last fall off of eBay for $30. It was brand new surplus from a dealer that ordered it for a customer that never picked it up. Geeze not bad, I managed to keep this a secret for almost a year, unless you happened to look at my log that is. :-) Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on nothing Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Douglas Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:32 AM A friend of mine used the same blazer overhead console in his Glasair III. He got it from the local junk yard for $30 so that may be another option besides eBay. -Brian #40497 N211BD Iowa City, IA ----- Original Message ----- From: W. Curtis <mailto:wcurtis@core.com> To: RV10-List@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:53 AM Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Console When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10, I asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for "overhead console blazer" will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look to the RV-10 I had to have one. The following link is from Deems site of Debbie's RV10. http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03080.JPG Also, if anyone wants to bid on this one, please do so as I have already won one on another auction and are currently the high bidder on this one. Wanted to make sure I got one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item= 190 014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1 William Curtis SB Fuselage - 40237 http://nerv10.com/


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    Time: 03:03:35 PM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    You might confuse them if you ask for a DF Steer. Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on NOTHING (moving) Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 3:38 PM Hey! I want to get one with "OnStar" . . . : ) TDT Do not archive ________________________________ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 3:49 PM I got mine last fall off of eBay for $30. It was brand new surplus from a dealer that ordered it for a customer that never picked it up. Geeze not bad, I managed to keep this a secret for almost a year, unless you happened to look at my log that is. :-) Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Working on nothing Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Douglas Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 9:32 AM A friend of mine used the same blazer overhead console in his Glasair III. He got it from the local junk yard for $30 so that may be another option besides eBay. -Brian #40497 N211BD Iowa City, IA ----- Original Message ----- From: W. Curtis <mailto:wcurtis@core.com> To: RV10-List@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 8:53 AM Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Console When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10, I asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for "overhead console blazer" will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look to the RV-10 I had to have one. The following link is from Deems site of Debbie's RV10. http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03080.JPG Also, if anyone wants to bid on this one, please do so as I have already won one on another auction and are currently the high bidder on this one. Wanted to make sure I got one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item= 190 014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1 William Curtis SB Fuselage - 40237 http://nerv10.com/


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    Time: 05:21:00 PM PST US
    From: "John N. Strain II" <aircarepros@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    Not to through a wrench in the hype, but if you are wanting air conditioning or even ventilation that far forward in the cabin, the chevy's overhead doesn't lend itself very well to adaptation. No automotive does however, so its back to custom laid fiberglass and although Tony's price maybe high, it does allow for excellent ventilation in the cabin space and looks very prestigious as it does it. Other alternatives are in development also and will be out by mid to late Sept. "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" Hopefully, Tony is monitoring this, cause there are sure a lot available overhead consoles at a reasonable price. Debbie, your quality was beyond comment. Beautiful aircraft and I was hurt not to see you taking home an award. It's a winner in my book. Watch S-10 Blazers jump on the stolen auto list as the 10 builders follow Deems purchase and bypass Ebay. John Cox -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:11 AM --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis DON'T ANYBODY BID ON THIS (I already did, ;-) ) THANKS BILL! Deems Davis # 406 Fuse/Finishing/Panel http://deemsrv10.com/ W. Curtis wrote: > When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10, I > asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it > from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy > S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for "overhead console blazer" > will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look > to the RV-10 I had to have one. The following link is from Deems site > of Debbie's RV10. > http://www.deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03080.JPG > > Also, if anyone wants to bid on this one, please do so as I have > already won one on another auction and are currently the high bidder > on this one. Wanted to make sure I got one. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=009&item=190 014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1 > 0014870966&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1> > > > William Curtis > SB Fuselage - 40237 > http://nerv10.com/ ---------------------------------


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    Time: 08:00:55 PM PST US
    From: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    John, every six months or so you need to re-explain all of your tags at the end of your emails so we can keep up with you. :] Rob _____ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHN STARN Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 2:22 PM Not if the "shoe" fits. Why re-invent the "wheel" ?.....AGAIN..... A 100K airplane with .06 cent pop rivets and glue for static source ? ?. BUT that's why it's called an "experimental" aircraft. Build it YOUR way. Do Not Archive....did not trim as it was a very short post. KABONG HRII N561FS (GBA & GWB) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 10:46 AM Does anyone else find it ironic, that we are all oogling over a $50 6 year old USED car part, to put into our brand new $100,000+ airplanes?! Jae


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    Time: 08:00:55 PM PST US
    From: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Overhead Console
    Who needs ebay and a junkyard? I'll just go rip the one that I already have out of my 97 Silverado. Oh wait, I don't really use that one either except for the lights, so maybe everyone needs to rethink just how much pretty storage space they need. For instance, one of the bays in the console in question is for a garage door opener. So you might need to plan on installing a hangar door opener that you can open as you taxi in for that super-cool look - it'd beat taxiing in with the canopy open any day! Rob Wright Do not archive _____ [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHN STARN Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 2:22 PM Not if the "shoe" fits. Why re-invent the "wheel" ?.....AGAIN..... A 100K airplane with .06 cent pop rivets and glue for static source ? ?. BUT that's why it's called an "experimental" aircraft. Build it YOUR way. Do Not Archive....did not trim as it was a very short post. KABONG HRII N561FS (GBA & GWB) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 10:46 AM Does anyone else find it ironic, that we are all oogling over a $50 6 year old USED car part, to put into our brand new $100,000+ airplanes?! Jae


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    Time: 10:51:26 PM PST US
    From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Console
    MessageOK but only 'cause you ask. KABONG, handle given to me while a Patrol Sgt. on Fontana PD. Broke two stocks on my 12 ga. in a month using it more like a baton. Went to a City Halloween Party in all black western gear. Guy from Public Works asked: "Who you supposed to be ?, QuicksDraw McGraw ?." One of my rookies spoke up, "NO, I've seen him in action, he's El Kabong" (QuicksDraw's Zorro type alter-ego that Kabongs bad guys with a guitar.Very heavy on the KA---BONG part) the KABONG handle stuck. HRII N561FS: #68 completed & flying Harmon Rocket II. Owner is Tom "Gummibear" Gummo, F-4 Wild Weasel pilot, USAF Major Ret. Unit he went to war with in the gulf, 561st. Fighter Sq. (N561FS) He supplied the majority of the funds, I donated time (five years), blood, sweat and a buck or two here & there. (GBA & GWB): God Bless America and George W. Bush Do Not Archive KABONG (GBA & GWB) N561FS is easy to spot on any tarmac. It's a Rocket, done in USAF aggressor blue/gray, USAF, Star & Bars with wing & tail tips in yellow. The 561st. shield on the tail and it's swinging a FOUR bladed MT prop. (But that's another interesting but long story) ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert G. Wright To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:57 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console John, every six months or so you need to re-explain all of your tags at the end of your emails so we can keep up with you. :] Rob




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