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1. 07:24 AM - Test-Ignore (Les Kearney)
2. 09:56 AM - Re: Overhead Console (John N. Strain II)
3. 10:03 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
4. 10:30 AM - Re: F-1070 side fuse skin bending from factory? (Chris Johnston)
5. 10:58 AM - Re: Overhead Console (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 11:17 AM - Re: Re: Overhead Console ()
7. 01:13 PM - Alabama Area Builders? (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
8. 01:42 PM - Re: Kitplanes article on the Lyc 390X and BPE (Rhonda Bewley)
9. 02:32 PM - TIO-540AF1B (Ken Silverman)
10. 02:41 PM - Re: Kitplanes article on the Lyc 390X and BPE (Rick)
11. 02:41 PM - Re: [spam] TIO-540AF1B (Kelly McMullen)
12. 02:43 PM - Re: Re: Overhead Console (Rick)
13. 03:10 PM - Re: F-1070 side fuse skin bending from factory? (John Hasbrouck)
14. 03:20 PM - Re: TIO-540AF1B (John W. Cox)
15. 03:39 PM - Re: F-1070 side fuse skin bending from factory? (Rick)
16. 03:50 PM - Re: TIO-540AF1B (Kelly McMullen)
17. 04:58 PM - Re: TIO-540AF1B (John W. Cox)
18. 05:29 PM - Re: Overhead Console (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
19. 05:37 PM - Re: Alabama Area Builders? (bob.kaufmann)
20. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: Overhead Console ()
21. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: Overhead Console (Nick Nafsinger)
22. 06:46 PM - Shoulder harness brackets (Marcus Cooper)
23. 06:50 PM - Re: F-1070 side fuse skin bending from factory? (zackrv8)
24. 07:05 PM - Re: Alabama Area Builders? (Chris)
25. 07:46 PM - Re: Re: Overhead Console (Jesse Saint)
26. 08:29 PM - Re: Shoulder harness brackets (Tim Olson)
27. 08:29 PM - Re: Overhead Console (Deems Davis)
28. 09:21 PM - Re: Re: Overhead Console (Rick)
29. 10:18 PM - Alternative Turbine, Anyone? (Jae Chang)
30. 11:49 PM - Re: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? (John Dunne)
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
Test
Les Kearney
do not archive
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| Subject: | Overhead Console |
John,
I missed some of the earlier chat about why the GMC overhead (except for the
fact that Jim and Debbie put it in Debbie's plane), so I may have missed something
vital. Those not concerned with conditioned air have absolutely no issue
as far as I can tell with the GMC overhead. All I'm saying is for any affording
AC, they will want to maximize its' capability. The GMC overhead requires
significant alteration to be able to be used as a very limited airflow device,
as well as will also require so much transitional fiberglass work that it may
become less than cost effective. I am by no means pushing Tony's product as
the only option, just a very nice, high priced one. There will be other overheads
with even more effectiveness and much better priced than Tony's coming out
very soon (not yet having permission to release the specific details). The
option of someone laying up there own complete panel is still not that expensive
(just time consuming) and could provide a more
finished look in the cabin than a bolt on component.
Then there's my own concerns which are only meant to amuze. I have a 96 suburban
and I don't want to see my insurance rates climbing through the roof because
a bunch of RV guys create a new base for the chop shop marketplace.
Thanks John for clarifying. I will become better at making myself clear and
will never intend to offend without clearly stating so. Keep on building.
John S.
"John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
John, if I understand the problem which is left undeclared. It
is the volume of air and the flow rate capable under the stock GMC component
as mounted to a VANS canopy. Tonys allows more volume and flow rate with better
static pressure results. Given the poor finish work of the M & T composite
cowl, this dilemma can be effected by a primary adapter (builder created) between
the VANS composite and the GMC quality looking finish piece. Now for those
who chose not to go with conditioned air, they may already be home free without
the intermediary adapter. Did I miss why people should through their money
at Tony.
Just posting what might be a cost effective solution for the budget minded.
John C
---------------------------------
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John N. Strain II
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
Not to through a wrench in the hype, but if you are wanting air conditioning
or even ventilation that far forward in the cabin, the chevy's overhead doesn't
lend itself very well to adaptation. No automotive does however, so its back
to custom laid fiberglass and although Tony's price maybe high, it does allow
for excellent ventilation in the cabin space and looks very prestigious as it
does it. Other alternatives are in development also and will be out by mid
to late Sept.
"John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox"
Hopefully, Tony is monitoring this, cause there are sure a lot available
overhead consoles at a reasonable price. Debbie, your quality was
beyond comment. Beautiful aircraft and I was hurt not to see you taking
home an award. It's a winner in my book.
Watch S-10 Blazers jump on the stolen auto list as the 10 builders
follow Deems purchase and bypass Ebay.
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:11 AM
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis
DON'T ANYBODY BID ON THIS (I already did, ;-) )
THANKS BILL!
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse/Finishing/Panel
http://deemsrv10.com/
W. Curtis wrote:
> When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10, I
> asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it
> from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy
> S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for "overhead console blazer"
> will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look
>
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| Subject: | Overhead Console |
I don't think any of the Chevy console users or future users intended to
use it for ventilation purposes. Just a nice place for some map lights,
switches, sunglasses, and a way to hide/protect the cable connections to
your top-mounted TAS antenna.
TDT
40025
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John N.
Strain II
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
John,
I missed some of the earlier chat about why the GMC overhead (except for
the fact that Jim and Debbie put it in Debbie's plane), so I may have
missed something vital. Those not concerned with conditioned air have
absolutely no issue as far as I can tell with the GMC overhead. All I'm
saying is for any affording AC, they will want to maximize its'
capability. The GMC overhead requires significant alteration to be able
to be used as a very limited airflow device, as well as will also
require so much transitional fiberglass work that it may become less
than cost effective. I am by no means pushing Tony's product as the
only option, just a very nice, high priced one. There will be other
overheads with even more effectiveness and much better priced than
Tony's coming out very soon (not yet having permission to release the
specific details). The option of someone laying up there own complete
panel is still not that expensive (just time consuming) and could
provide a more finished look in the cabin than a bolt on component.
Then there's my own concerns which are only meant to amuze. I have a 96
suburban and I don't want to see my insurance rates climbing through the
roof because a bunch of RV guys create a new base for the chop shop
marketplace.
Thanks John for clarifying. I will become better at making myself clear
and will never intend to offend without clearly stating so. Keep on
building.
John S.
"John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
John, if I understand the problem which is left undeclared. It is the
volume of air and the flow rate capable under the stock GMC component as
mounted to a VANS canopy. Tony's allows more volume and flow rate with
better static pressure results. Given the poor finish work of the M & T
composite cowl, this dilemma can be effected by a primary adapter
(builder created) between the VANS composite and the GMC quality looking
finish piece. Now for those who chose not to go with conditioned air,
they may already be home free without the intermediary adapter. Did I
miss why people should through their money at Tony.
Just posting what might be a cost effective solution for the budget
minded.
John C
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John N.
Strain II
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 5:16 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
Not to through a wrench in the hype, but if you are wanting air
conditioning or even ventilation that far forward in the cabin, the
chevy's overhead doesn't lend itself very well to adaptation. No
automotive does however, so its back to custom laid fiberglass and
although Tony's price maybe high, it does allow for excellent
ventilation in the cabin space and looks very prestigious as it does it.
Other alternatives are in development also and will be out by mid to
late Sept.
"John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox"
Hopefully, Tony is monitoring this, cause there are sure a lot
available
overhead consoles at a reasonable price. Debbie, your quality was
beyond comment. Beautiful aircraft and I was hurt not to see you taking
home an award. It's a winner in my book.
Watch S-10 Blazers jump on the stolen auto list as the 10 builders
follow Deems purchase and bypass Ebay.
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:11 AM
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis
DON'T ANYBODY BID ON THIS (I already did, ;-) )
THANKS BILL!
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse/Finishing/Panel
http://deemsrv10.com/
W. Curtis wrote:
> When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10,
I
> asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it
> from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy
> S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for "overhead console blazer"
> will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look
>
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| Subject: | F-1070 side fuse skin bending from factory? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
I guess I'll put this another way - no response yet... can anyone who
has received their fuse kit recently (past couple months) check and see
if the F1070 L/R skins are pre-bent? I just talked with vans, and the
lady at the order counter didn't know.
Thanks!
cj
#40410
fuse
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Johnston
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: F-1070 side fuse skin bending from factory?
hey all -
after my super awesome fuse skin bending session, i'm ready to order a
new skin. i followed all the instructions, had a woodworking buddy
create perfect blocks per the plans out of nice hardwood, and after
getting a nice looking bend, i noticed that the skin was cracked by the
sharp bend. after searching the archives, i saw that vans was talking
about creating those bends at the factory. anyone know if that is
happening? if it is, is it also happening for the forward fuse skins
F-1069? i'm just wondering if i should keep at my bending efforts, or
move on and order (hopefully) pre-bent skins. someone give me good
news...
cj
#40410
fuse
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| Subject: | Overhead Console |
That's correct. I see no easy way to adapt the S-10 console into a
fresh air supply. It is simply for the flood lights and storage with
maybe a couple indicator lights or switches.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving
Do Not Archive
Recent RV-10 Build Activity
<http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22>
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
I don't think any of the Chevy console users or future users intended to
use it for ventilation purposes. Just a nice place for some map lights,
switches, sunglasses, and a way to hide/protect the cable connections to
your top-mounted TAS antenna.
TDT
40025
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John N.
Strain II
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
John,
I missed some of the earlier chat about why the GMC overhead (except for
the fact that Jim and Debbie put it in Debbie's plane), so I may have
missed something vital. Those not concerned with conditioned air have
absolutely no issue as far as I can tell with the GMC overhead. All I'm
saying is for any affording AC, they will want to maximize its'
capability. The GMC overhead requires significant alteration to be able
to be used as a very limited airflow device, as well as will also
require so much transitional fiberglass work that it may become less
than cost effective. I am by no means pushing Tony's product as the
only option, just a very nice, high priced one. There will be other
overheads with even more effectiveness and much better priced than
Tony's coming out very soon (not yet having permission to release the
specific details). The option of someone laying up there own complete
panel is still not that expensive (just time consuming) and could
provide a more finished look in the cabin than a bolt on component.
Then there's my own concerns which are only meant to amuze. I have a 96
suburban and I don't want to see my insurance rates climbing through the
roof because a bunch of RV guys create a new base for the chop shop
marketplace.
Thanks John for clarifying. I will become better at making myself clear
and will never intend to offend without clearly stating so. Keep on
building.
John S.
"John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
John, if I understand the problem which is left undeclared. It is the
volume of air and the flow rate capable under the stock GMC component as
mounted to a VANS canopy. Tony's allows more volume and flow rate with
better static pressure results. Given the poor finish work of the M & T
composite cowl, this dilemma can be effected by a primary adapter
(builder created) between the VANS composite and the GMC quality looking
finish piece. Now for those who chose not to go with conditioned air,
they may already be home free without the intermediary adapter. Did I
miss why people should through their money at Tony.
Just posting what might be a cost effective solution for the budget
minded.
John C
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John N.
Strain II
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 5:16 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
Not to through a wrench in the hype, but if you are wanting air
conditioning or even ventilation that far forward in the cabin, the
chevy's overhead doesn't lend itself very well to adaptation. No
automotive does however, so its back to custom laid fiberglass and
although Tony's price maybe high, it does allow for excellent
ventilation in the cabin space and looks very prestigious as it does it.
Other alternatives are in development also and will be out by mid to
late Sept.
"John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox"
Hopefully, Tony is monitoring this, cause there are sure a lot
available
overhead consoles at a reasonable price. Debbie, your quality was
beyond comment. Beautiful aircraft and I was hurt not to see you taking
home an award. It's a winner in my book.
Watch S-10 Blazers jump on the stolen auto list as the 10 builders
follow Deems purchase and bypass Ebay.
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:11 AM
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis
DON'T ANYBODY BID ON THIS (I already did, ;-) )
THANKS BILL!
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse/Finishing/Panel
http://deemsrv10.com/
W. Curtis wrote:
> When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10,
I
> asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it
> from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy
> S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for "overhead console blazer"
> will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look
>
________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <rleffler@rrohio.com>
As a newbie on the list, not knowing "Tony", can somebody point me to where I can
learn more about his console and products.
thanks,
bob
>
> From: "John N. Strain II" <aircarepros@yahoo.com>
> Date: 2006/08/07 Mon PM 12:55:15 EDT
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>
> John,
>
> I missed some of the earlier chat about why the GMC overhead (except for the
fact that Jim and Debbie put it in Debbie's plane), so I may have missed something
vital. Those not concerned with conditioned air have absolutely no issue
as far as I can tell with the GMC overhead. All I'm saying is for any affording
AC, they will want to maximize its' capability. The GMC overhead requires
significant alteration to be able to be used as a very limited airflow device,
as well as will also require so much transitional fiberglass work that it
may become less than cost effective. I am by no means pushing Tony's product
as the only option, just a very nice, high priced one. There will be other overheads
with even more effectiveness and much better priced than Tony's coming
out very soon (not yet having permission to release the specific details). The
option of someone laying up there own complete panel is still not that expensive
(just time consuming) and could provide a more
> finished look in the cabin than a bolt on component.
> Then there's my own concerns which are only meant to amuze. I have a 96 suburban
and I don't want to see my insurance rates climbing through the roof because
a bunch of RV guys create a new base for the chop shop marketplace.
>
> Thanks John for clarifying. I will become better at making myself clear and
will never intend to offend without clearly stating so. Keep on building.
>
> John S.
>
> "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
> John, if I understand the problem which is left undeclared.
It is the volume of air and the flow rate capable under the stock GMC component
as mounted to a VANS canopy. Tonys allows more volume and flow rate with better
static pressure results. Given the poor finish work of the M & T composite
cowl, this dilemma can be effected by a primary adapter (builder created) between
the VANS composite and the GMC quality looking finish piece. Now for those
who chose not to go with conditioned air, they may already be home free without
the intermediary adapter. Did I miss why people should through their money
at Tony.
>
> Just posting what might be a cost effective solution for the budget minded.
>
> John C
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John N. Strain II
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 5:16 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>
>
> Not to through a wrench in the hype, but if you are wanting air conditioning
or even ventilation that far forward in the cabin, the chevy's overhead doesn't
lend itself very well to adaptation. No automotive does however, so its back
to custom laid fiberglass and although Tony's price maybe high, it does allow
for excellent ventilation in the cabin space and looks very prestigious as
it does it. Other alternatives are in development also and will be out by mid
to late Sept.
>
> "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox"
>
> Hopefully, Tony is monitoring this, cause there are sure a lot available
> overhead consoles at a reasonable price. Debbie, your quality was
> beyond comment. Beautiful aircraft and I was hurt not to see you taking
> home an award. It's a winner in my book.
>
> Watch S-10 Blazers jump on the stolen auto list as the 10 builders
> follow Deems purchase and bypass Ebay.
>
> John Cox
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 7:11 AM
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis
>
> DON'T ANYBODY BID ON THIS (I already did, ;-) )
>
> THANKS BILL!
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Fuse/Finishing/Panel
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
> W. Curtis wrote:
>
> > When I spoke to Debbie Dewey at OSH regarding her spectacular RV-10, I
>
> > asked her about the overhead console. She mentioned she purchased it
> > from eBay for about $50 and it was the overhead console for the Chevy
> > S-10 Blazer. A search of eBay motors for "overhead console blazer"
> > will show many for sale averaging $50. This adds such a finished look
> >
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo!
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>
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| Subject: | Alabama Area Builders? |
It looks like I'm going to be spending the majority of next week in
Huntsville. If there any area builders up for a visit or wanting to
compare notes during the evening let me know off-line.
Thanks!
Bob #40105
Baffling & "stuff"
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| Subject: | Kitplanes article on the Lyc 390X and BPE |
Just think of it as Okie Espresso!! Remember, that which doesn't kill
you makes you stronger. He he,he.
Rhonda
DO NOT ARCHIVE
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marc Cook
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Kitplanes article on the Lyc 390X and BPE
Got it. The crew at Barrett was great to work with, and fed me as much
thick, black coffee as I could stand. That's the extent of my kickback!
On Aug 6, 2006, at 10:15 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marc Cook
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Kitplanes article on the Lyc 390X and BPE
Bart does great work.
What do you mean by "kick backs"?
On Aug 5, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Mark Ritter wrote:
DITTO for Bart at Aero Sport. Great reputation and good folks to do
business with. No kick backs either.
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Has anyone build yet using the TIO-540AF1B single turbo of Mooneys
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| Subject: | Kitplanes article on the Lyc 390X and BPE |
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
Have you priced one yet?
Figure at least 25K or more above IO-540Aseries.
Quoting Ken Silverman <k_l_silverman@hotmail.com>:
> Has anyone build yet using the TIO-540AF1B single turbo of Mooneys
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
www.accuracyavionics.com
Still under construction but his contact info is there.
Rick S.
40185
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| Subject: | Re: F-1070 side fuse skin bending from factory? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
Received mine in May and no, the fuse skins were not prebent then.. I heard
the rumor also and was hopeful. Mine are bent now, was a pain but turned
out okay.
John Hasbrouck
#40264
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It is reported to fall out of the sky. You will be the first and many
are hoping to see one.
John Cox
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Silverman
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: TIO-540AF1B
Has anyone build yet using the TIO-540AF1B single turbo of Mooneys
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| Subject: | Re: F-1070 side fuse skin bending from factory? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
One thing about those areas of the skins, don't be afraid to radius the inside
corner a bit and polish the edges real well prior to bending, don't just do a
mild deburring. Doing these two step will ease some of the surface tension that
leads to cracking. Go easy with the hammer part, that's where you'll get the
cracks started. Alignment of the wood blocks and securely clamping of the blocks
is essential. Pre-bent would be nice but heck, you can brag about how you
bent your skins by hand on the "old" RV-10 kits.
Rick S.
40185
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
Might also look at the IO-540-R1A5, which was installed on late
PA24-260s with dual RayJay turbos, I believe manually
controlled.......but power is limited to Van's magic 260hp.
Quoting "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>:
> It is reported to fall out of the sky. You will be the first and many
> are hoping to see one.
>
>
> John Cox
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Silverman
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:32 PM
> To: RV10-List@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: TIO-540AF1B
>
>
> Has anyone build yet using the TIO-540AF1B single turbo of Mooneys
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
A TNIO540 (performance limited to the magic 260.0 bhp) would be the
perfect platform for those days flying around Cumulo-Granite Clouds and
tight canyons here in the Western US and Canada.
Vic and Noel are still in that elite group and soon to join is Ed
Hayden. Hot Rodders of the 21st Century and rebels to the core.
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McMullen
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 3:49 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: TIO-540AF1B
--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
Might also look at the IO-540-R1A5, which was installed on late
PA24-260s with dual RayJay turbos, I believe manually
controlled.......but power is limited to Van's magic 260hp.
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console |
I disagree.
I have installed Tony's console, and it is a nice addition.
I do not like Tony's vent for the base of the vertical tail, so we are
looking at 2 options:
1. A NACA vent mounted on the fuselage, probably on the right side forward o
f
the horizontal tail. That appears to be where most positive pressure is wit
h
least threat of exhaust swirl.
OR
2. Find or fab a retractable vent (like old Bonanzas, etc had) that we can
mount on upper part of fuselage in front of the vertical tail.
Grumpy
#40404, panel in and working!
In a message dated 8/7/2006 1:04:37 PM Central Standard Time,
rvbuilder@sausen.net writes:
That=99s correct. I see no easy way to adapt the S-10 console into a
fresh air
supply. It is simply for the flood lights and storage with maybe a couple
indicator lights or switches.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving
Do Not Archive
Recent RV-10 Build Activity
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townse
nd
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:03 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
I don=99t think any of the Chevy console users or future users intende
d to use
it for ventilation purposes. Just a nice place for some map lights, switche
s,
sunglasses, and a way to hide/protect the cable connections to your
top-mounted TAS antenna.
TDT
40025
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| Subject: | Alabama Area Builders? |
Bob Condrey,
I'll be in Huntsville from Sunday night to Friday night. All week with
nothing to do but go to a DAU class. My cell number is 702-767-3587, give
me a call Sunday and lets get together. Going to be there for ACQ 201B.
Bob K
Finishing kit, rotary engine, etc, etc, etc.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US
SSA)
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:13 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Alabama Area Builders?
It looks like I'm going to be spending the majority of next week in
Huntsville. If there any area builders up for a visit or wanting to compare
notes during the evening let me know off-line.
Thanks!
Bob #40105
Baffling & "stuff"
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console |
--> RV10-List message posted by: <gorejr@bellsouth.net>
Does anybody have pics of what we are talking about? Thanks Jim
>
> From: GenGrumpy@aol.com
> Date: 2006/08/07 Mon PM 08:28:59 EDT
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>
> I disagree.
>
> I have installed Tony's console, and it is a nice addition.
>
> I do not like Tony's vent for the base of the vertical tail, so we are
> looking at 2 options:
>
> 1. A NACA vent mounted on the fuselage, probably on the right side forward of
> the horizontal tail. That appears to be where most positive pressure is with
> least threat of exhaust swirl.
>
> OR
>
> 2. Find or fab a retractable vent (like old Bonanzas, etc had) that we can
> mount on upper part of fuselage in front of the vertical tail.
>
> Grumpy
> #40404, panel in and working!
>
> In a message dated 8/7/2006 1:04:37 PM Central Standard Time,
> rvbuilder@sausen.net writes:
> That?s correct. I see no easy way to adapt the S-10 console into a fresh air
> supply. It is simply for the flood lights and storage with maybe a couple
> indicator lights or switches.
>
> Michael Sausen
> RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving
> Do Not Archive
> Recent RV-10 Build Activity
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:03 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>
> I don?t think any of the Chevy console users or future users intended to use
> it for ventilation purposes. Just a nice place for some map lights, switches,
> sunglasses, and a way to hide/protect the cable connections to your
> top-mounted TAS antenna.
>
> TDT
> 40025
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console |
Here is a couple I took at OSH.
I have a LONG way to go before I need to worry about doing the overhead, but
ideas are great none the less.
Nick
#569 - Emp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gorejr@bellsouth.net
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console
--> RV10-List message posted by: <gorejr@bellsouth.net>
Does anybody have pics of what we are talking about? Thanks Jim
>
> From: GenGrumpy@aol.com
> Date: 2006/08/07 Mon PM 08:28:59 EDT
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>
> I disagree.
>
> I have installed Tony's console, and it is a nice addition.
>
> I do not like Tony's vent for the base of the vertical tail, so we are
> looking at 2 options:
>
> 1. A NACA vent mounted on the fuselage, probably on the right side forward
of
> the horizontal tail. That appears to be where most positive pressure is
with
> least threat of exhaust swirl.
>
> OR
>
> 2. Find or fab a retractable vent (like old Bonanzas, etc had) that we can
> mount on upper part of fuselage in front of the vertical tail.
>
> Grumpy
> #40404, panel in and working!
>
> In a message dated 8/7/2006 1:04:37 PM Central Standard Time,
> rvbuilder@sausen.net writes:
> That?s correct. I see no easy way to adapt the S-10 console into a fresh
air
> supply. It is simply for the flood lights and storage with maybe a couple
> indicator lights or switches.
>
> Michael Sausen
> RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving
> Do Not Archive
> Recent RV-10 Build Activity
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:03 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>
> I don?t think any of the Chevy console users or future users intended to
use
> it for ventilation purposes. Just a nice place for some map lights,
switches,
> sunglasses, and a way to hide/protect the cable connections to your
> top-mounted TAS antenna.
>
> TDT
> 40025
>
>
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| Subject: | Shoulder harness brackets |
I've noticed a number of completed -10s have a nice bracket that holds the
forward shoulder harnesses when not in use. They seem to be very similar
but I don't remember seeing them for sale anywhere. Is everyone making
their own, or are they available somewhere?
Thanks,
Marcus
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: F-1070 side fuse skin bending from factory? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
CJ,
I just finished bending the skins today. I would have to agree with Rick, go
easy with the hammer part. You don't need much bending on these skins. They
pull up real nice with clecoes.
Zack
--------
RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53249#53249
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| Subject: | Re: Alabama Area Builders? |
Bob,
I feel your pain...SYS 301 is in my immediate future. Oh joy.
-CHris Lucas
#40072
----- Original Message -----
From: bob.kaufmann
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Alabama Area Builders?
Bob Condrey,
I'll be in Huntsville from Sunday night to Friday night. All week
with nothing to do but go to a DAU class. My cell number is
702-767-3587, give me a call Sunday and lets get together. Going to be
there for ACQ 201B.
Bob K
Finishing kit, rotary engine, etc, etc, etc.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob
(US SSA)
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:13 PM
To: RV10-List@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Alabama Area Builders?
It looks like I'm going to be spending the majority of next week in
Huntsville. If there any area builders up for a visit or wanting to
compare notes during the evening let me know off-line.
Thanks!
Bob #40105
Baffling & "stuff"
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
Does anybody have any good detailed pictures of what Debbie did with her
door seals?
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick Nafsinger
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console
Here is a couple I took at OSH.
I have a LONG way to go before I need to worry about doing the overhead, but
ideas are great none the less.
Nick
#569 - Emp
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gorejr@bellsouth.net
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console
--> RV10-List message posted by: <gorejr@bellsouth.net>
Does anybody have pics of what we are talking about? Thanks Jim
>
> From: GenGrumpy@aol.com
> Date: 2006/08/07 Mon PM 08:28:59 EDT
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>
> I disagree.
>
> I have installed Tony's console, and it is a nice addition.
>
> I do not like Tony's vent for the base of the vertical tail, so we are
> looking at 2 options:
>
> 1. A NACA vent mounted on the fuselage, probably on the right side forward
of
> the horizontal tail. That appears to be where most positive pressure is
with
> least threat of exhaust swirl.
>
> OR
>
> 2. Find or fab a retractable vent (like old Bonanzas, etc had) that we can
> mount on upper part of fuselage in front of the vertical tail.
>
> Grumpy
> #40404, panel in and working!
>
> In a message dated 8/7/2006 1:04:37 PM Central Standard Time,
> rvbuilder@sausen.net writes:
> That?s correct. I see no easy way to adapt the S-10 console into a fresh
air
> supply. It is simply for the flood lights and storage with maybe a couple
> indicator lights or switches.
>
> Michael Sausen
> RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving
> Do Not Archive
> Recent RV-10 Build Activity
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:03 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>
> I don?t think any of the Chevy console users or future users intended to
use
> it for ventilation purposes. Just a nice place for some map lights,
switches,
> sunglasses, and a way to hide/protect the cable connections to your
> top-mounted TAS antenna.
>
> TDT
> 40025
>
>
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No virus found in this incoming message.
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| Subject: | Re: Shoulder harness brackets |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I looked at Randy's and his photos, and then looked at the ones on the
factory planes, and they all looked pretty good. They aren't
an item that's for sale, but it would be a great aftermarket small
item, or something that would be good to have part of the offical
plans. I just used some .040, or .050 I think, and cut and bent them.
They work pretty well. Make sure they're well deburred so you don't
cut the belts. I may have photos on my site, or if not, I could
take some, but I think between mine, randy's and photos of the factory
planes, you should be able to find good photos...it's all I had to
go on.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Marcus Cooper wrote:
> Ive noticed a number of completed -10s have a nice bracket that holds
> the forward shoulder harnesses when not in use. They seem to be very
> similar but I dont remember seeing them for sale anywhere. Is everyone
> making their own, or are they available somewhere?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Marcus
>
>
>
> Do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Here's a couple of pics.
http://deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03085.html
I recall listening to Jim Erskin talking to Mike Sausen, Jim said he
paid $85 for the door seal, but I didn't catch where he got it. Mike do
you recall?
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse/Finishing/Panel
http://deemsrv10.com/
Jesse Saint wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>
>Does anybody have any good detailed pictures of what Debbie did with her
>door seals?
>
>Do not archive.
>
>Jesse Saint
>I-TEC, Inc.
>jesse@itecusa.org
>www.itecusa.org
>W: 352-465-4545
>C: 352-427-0285
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick Nafsinger
>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:09 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>
>Here is a couple I took at OSH.
>
>I have a LONG way to go before I need to worry about doing the overhead, but
>ideas are great none the less.
>
>Nick
>#569 - Emp
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>gorejr@bellsouth.net
>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:54 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: <gorejr@bellsouth.net>
>
>Does anybody have pics of what we are talking about? Thanks Jim
>
>
>>From: GenGrumpy@aol.com
>>Date: 2006/08/07 Mon PM 08:28:59 EDT
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>>
>>I disagree.
>>
>>I have installed Tony's console, and it is a nice addition.
>>
>>I do not like Tony's vent for the base of the vertical tail, so we are
>>looking at 2 options:
>>
>>1. A NACA vent mounted on the fuselage, probably on the right side forward
>>
>>
>of
>
>
>>the horizontal tail. That appears to be where most positive pressure is
>>
>>
>with
>
>
>>least threat of exhaust swirl.
>>
>>OR
>>
>>2. Find or fab a retractable vent (like old Bonanzas, etc had) that we can
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>mount on upper part of fuselage in front of the vertical tail.
>>
>>Grumpy
>>#40404, panel in and working!
>>
>>In a message dated 8/7/2006 1:04:37 PM Central Standard Time,
>>rvbuilder@sausen.net writes:
>>That?s correct. I see no easy way to adapt the S-10 console into a fresh
>>
>>
>air
>
>
>>supply. It is simply for the flood lights and storage with maybe a couple
>>
>>
>
>
>
>>indicator lights or switches.
>>
>>Michael Sausen
>>RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving
>>Do Not Archive
>>Recent RV-10 Build Activity
>>
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
>>
>>
>Dawson-Townsend
>
>
>>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:03 PM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>>
>>I don?t think any of the Chevy console users or future users intended to
>>
>>
>use
>
>
>>it for ventilation purposes. Just a nice place for some map lights,
>>
>>
>switches,
>
>
>>sunglasses, and a way to hide/protect the cable connections to your
>>top-mounted TAS antenna.
>>
>>TDT
>>40025
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Hey look!!!! It's Deems sucked up tight geting a look at the back inside!!!!
Rick S.
40185
do not archive
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| Subject: | Alternative Turbine, Anyone? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/news_archives/news_08_04_06_01.htm
In case anyone missed this posting from the VAF site, here is the link
above announcing a first flight for an RV-8T.
http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/products.html
They even list a 255HP turbine for $34,500. That is less than any prices
i've seen for even the 540's. They claim to be working on or already have
available FWF kits for the -10 model as well.
Wow, i would love to see an RV-10T some day! Maybe I should think about
installing the aux tanks! I wish. ;)
Jae
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| Subject: | Alternative Turbine, Anyone? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au>
Jae, your enthusiasm to provoke more engine wars is admirable!! :-)
John 40315
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang
Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 3:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Alternative Turbine, Anyone?
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/news_archives/news_08_04_06_01.htm
In case anyone missed this posting from the VAF site, here is the link
above announcing a first flight for an RV-8T.
http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/products.html
They even list a 255HP turbine for $34,500. That is less than any prices
i've seen for even the 540's. They claim to be working on or already have
available FWF kits for the -10 model as well.
Wow, i would love to see an RV-10T some day! Maybe I should think about
installing the aux tanks! I wish. ;)
Jae
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