RV10-List Digest Archive

Tue 08/08/06


Total Messages Posted: 50



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 01:27 AM - Re: TIO-540AF1B (John Jessen)
     2. 03:11 AM - Re: Kitplanes article on the Lyc 390X and BPE (Marc Cook)
     3. 05:47 AM - Re: Overhead Console (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     4. 06:13 AM - Re: RPM indications with Lightspeed (Tim Olson)
     5. 06:21 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Tim Olson)
     6. 06:34 AM - Re: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? (Eric Ekberg)
     7. 07:24 AM - Re: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
     8. 07:28 AM - Re: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? (John W. Cox)
     9. 07:34 AM - Re: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? (Rick)
    10. 07:52 AM - Re: Overhead Console (W. Curtis)
    11. 08:01 AM - Re: Re: Overhead Console (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    12. 08:04 AM - Alternative turbine, anyone? (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    13. 08:13 AM - GPS & Autopilot Setup (Albert Gardner)
    14. 08:26 AM - First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Tim Olson)
    15. 08:50 AM - Re: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? (Jae Chang)
    16. 08:52 AM - Re: Alternative turbine, anyone? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    17. 09:05 AM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
    18. 09:28 AM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Rene Felker)
    19. 09:35 AM - Re: Alternative turbine, anyone? (Vern W. Smith)
    20. 09:42 AM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Mark Ritter)
    21. 10:15 AM - Help With RV Mailing List (Les Kearney)
    22. 10:31 AM - Re: Help With RV Mailing List (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    23. 10:54 AM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
    24. 11:23 AM - Re: bridge for sale (Neil Colliver)
    25. 11:27 AM - Re: Help With RV Mailing List (Rick)
    26. 11:53 AM - Re: Re: bridge for sale (Rick)
    27. 01:31 PM - Fuel Pump Cooling Shroud (Tim Olson)
    28. 01:40 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Eric_Kallio)
    29. 01:55 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Tim Olson)
    30. 02:10 PM - Re: Fuel Pump Cooling Shroud (Bob Newman)
    31. 02:16 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
    32. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Mark Ritter)
    33. 02:46 PM - Re: RV10 gathering (James Hein)
    34. 02:52 PM - Re: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Bobby J. Hughes)
    35. 03:22 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
    36. 03:35 PM - Re: RPM indications with Lightspeed (Neville Boyle)
    37. 03:37 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Chris)
    38. 04:12 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Jack Sargeant)
    39. 04:18 PM - Tug (Mark Ritter)
    40. 04:30 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Tim Olson)
    41. 06:12 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (John W. Cox)
    42. 06:18 PM - Re: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? (jdalton77)
    43. 06:22 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (jdalton77)
    44. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (jdalton77)
    45. 06:33 PM - Re: Tug (DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com)
    46. 06:35 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Robert G. Wright)
    47. 06:44 PM - Re: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
    48. 06:46 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (John Dunne)
    49. 09:59 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (EFDsteve@aol.com)
    50. 11:20 PM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Rodger Todd)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:27:18 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: TIO-540AF1B
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Hot rodders! I just thought they needed that extra oomph to get airborne! :-) John J do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 4:10 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: TIO-540AF1B --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> A TNIO540 (performance limited to the magic 260.0 bhp) would be the perfect platform for those days flying around Cumulo-Granite Clouds and tight canyons here in the Western US and Canada. Vic and Noel are still in that elite group and soon to join is Ed Hayden. Hot Rodders of the 21st Century and rebels to the core. John Cox -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 3:49 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: TIO-540AF1B --> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> Might also look at the IO-540-R1A5, which was installed on late PA24-260s with dual RayJay turbos, I believe manually controlled.......but power is limited to Van's magic 260hp.


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    Time: 03:11:33 AM PST US
    From: Marc Cook <marc@kitplanes.com>
    Subject: Re: Kitplanes article on the Lyc 390X and BPE
    Going well, thanks for asking. Still a ton of small things to deal with. And I wouldn't wish this build-to-a-magazine-deadline lifestyle on anyone. <grin> On Aug 6, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Robert G. Wright wrote: > Marc, > > > Nice to see such a high-level interest in our forum. How=92s the > Sportsman running? > > > Rob Wright > > #392 > > QB Wings > > Do not archive > > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marc Cook > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 1:26 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Kitplanes article on the Lyc 390X and BPE > > > Got it. The crew at Barrett was great to work with, and fed me as > much thick, black coffee as I could stand. That's the extent of my > kickback! > > > On Aug 6, 2006, at 10:15 AM, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > > > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marc Cook > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:49 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Kitplanes article on the Lyc 390X and BPE > > Bart does great work. > > What do you mean by "kick backs"? > > On Aug 5, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Mark Ritter wrote: > > > DITTO for Bart at Aero Sport. Great reputation and good folks to do > business with. No kick backs either. > >


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    Time: 05:47:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Overhead Console
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> It was something new that basically held it's form after a few uses. I believe Alex D was going to start selling it Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:30 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> Here's a couple of pics. http://deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03085.html I recall listening to Jim Erskin talking to Mike Sausen, Jim said he paid $85 for the door seal, but I didn't catch where he got it. Mike do you recall? Deems Davis # 406 Fuse/Finishing/Panel http://deemsrv10.com/ Jesse Saint wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> > >Does anybody have any good detailed pictures of what Debbie did with >her door seals? > >Do not archive. > >Jesse Saint >I-TEC, Inc. >jesse@itecusa.org >www.itecusa.org >W: 352-465-4545 >C: 352-427-0285 >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Nick >Nafsinger >Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:09 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console > >Here is a couple I took at OSH. > >I have a LONG way to go before I need to worry about doing the >overhead, but ideas are great none the less. > >Nick >#569 - Emp > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >gorejr@bellsouth.net >Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:54 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console > >--> RV10-List message posted by: <gorejr@bellsouth.net> > >Does anybody have pics of what we are talking about? Thanks Jim > > >>From: GenGrumpy@aol.com >>Date: 2006/08/07 Mon PM 08:28:59 EDT >>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Console >> >>I disagree. >> >>I have installed Tony's console, and it is a nice addition. >> >>I do not like Tony's vent for the base of the vertical tail, so we are >>looking at 2 options: >> >>1. A NACA vent mounted on the fuselage, probably on the right side >>forward >> >> >of > > >>the horizontal tail. That appears to be where most positive pressure >>is >> >> >with > > >>least threat of exhaust swirl. >> >>OR >> >>2. Find or fab a retractable vent (like old Bonanzas, etc had) that we >>can >> >> > > > >>mount on upper part of fuselage in front of the vertical tail. >> >>Grumpy >>#40404, panel in and working! >> >>In a message dated 8/7/2006 1:04:37 PM Central Standard Time, >>rvbuilder@sausen.net writes: >>That?s correct. I see no easy way to adapt the S-10 console into a >>fresh >> >> >air > > >>supply. It is simply for the flood lights and storage with maybe a >>couple >> >> > > > >>indicator lights or switches. >> >>Michael Sausen >>RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving Do Not Archive Recent >>RV-10 Build Activity >> >>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim >> >> >Dawson-Townsend > > >>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:03 PM >>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console >> >>I don?t think any of the Chevy console users or future users intended >>to >> >> >use > > >>it for ventilation purposes. Just a nice place for some map lights, >> >> >switches, > > >>sunglasses, and a way to hide/protect the cable connections to your >>top-mounted TAS antenna. >> >>TDT >>40025 >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:13:40 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: : RV10-List:RPM indications with Lightspeed
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Marcus, I'd start looking at the hardware being a possible cause. You may want to send the EIS to GRT and have them look at it. On mine, the tach out from the Lightspeed goes directly into the Tach in on the GRT. Then the only thing to screw up is the pulses per rev, and even if you mess up you should get some reading. There are no resistors or things needed to do this. Be aware though that you won't be able to easily feed the tach info from the mag AND the lightspeed into the EIS, since they both have different settings I think. One other thing to check before sending the unit back....are you SURE that you're actually firing and running on the Lightspeed? When I do a mag check with the Lightspeed off, it'll of course read "0" since it's not getting any input from the LSI. Could it be possible that your engine is only running on the mag? Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Marcus Cooper wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net> > > I am still having trouble getting my Lightspeed RPM indication to work on my > Grand Rapids DIS and have a question. On the output line, there are 3 > options to choose from for RPM indications, analog, digital and one other (I > think, don't have the instruction handy unfortunately). I opted for the > digital pin but am still getting 0 RPM (and I have accomplished the > resistor/capacitor removal as required). Anyone have any other recommended > pins to use? There may be other issues (undetected bad joint?) but I > thought I'd start here. > > Thanks, > Marcus > Pseudo high-speed taxi today, it felt great! > > Do not archive >


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    Time: 06:21:22 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Console
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I see you've already got pics via the list of the GM console. Here are some old ones on the ventilation console. I have more that I'll be posting hopefully soon. I'm still catching up. http://www.myrv10.com/tips/accessories/overhead_console/index.html Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive gorejr@bellsouth.net wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: <gorejr@bellsouth.net> > > Does anybody have pics of what we are talking about? Thanks Jim >> From: GenGrumpy@aol.com


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    Time: 06:34:55 AM PST US
    From: "Eric Ekberg" <etekberg@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Alternative Turbine, Anyone?
    What is the fuel consumption? Eric do not archive On 8/8/06, John Dunne <acs@acspropeller.com.au> wrote: > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au> > > Jae, your enthusiasm to provoke more engine wars is admirable!! :-) > John 40315 > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang > Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 3:17 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com> > > http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/news_archives/news_08_04_06_01.htm > > In case anyone missed this posting from the VAF site, here is the link > above announcing a first flight for an RV-8T. > > http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/products.html > > They even list a 255HP turbine for $34,500. That is less than any prices > i've seen for even the 540's. They claim to be working on or already have > available FWF kits for the -10 model as well. > > Wow, i would love to see an RV-10T some day! Maybe I should think about > installing the aux tanks! I wish. ;) > > Jae > >


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    Time: 07:24:03 AM PST US
    Subject: Alternative Turbine, Anyone?
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Let's not waste bandwidth re-hashing this. Try the alternative engine section of Van's Air Force discussion boards: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=22 TDT 40025 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Ekberg Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:33 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? What is the fuel consumption? Eric do not archive On 8/8/06, John Dunne <acs@acspropeller.com.au> wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au > Jae, your enthusiasm to provoke more engine wars is admirable!! :-) John 40315 Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 3:17 PM Subject: RV10-List: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com > http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/news_archives/news_08_04_06_01.htm In case anyone missed this posting from the VAF site, here is the link above announcing a first flight for an RV-8T. http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/products.html They even list a 255HP turbine for $34,500. That is less than any prices i've seen for even the 540's. They claim to be working on or already have available FWF kits for the -10 model as well. Wow, i would love to see an RV-10T some day! Maybe I should think about installing the aux tanks! I wish. ;)


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    Time: 07:28:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Alternative Turbine, Anyone?
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> I think the war will die for lack of a second, low shaft HP and little demonstrated performance in the last 20 months. How about those Cubs? John -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Dunne Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 11:49 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au> Jae, your enthusiasm to provoke more engine wars is admirable!! :-) John 40315 Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 3:17 PM Subject: RV10-List: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com> http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/news_archives/news_08_04_06_01.htm In case anyone missed this posting from the VAF site, here is the link above announcing a first flight for an RV-8T. http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/products.html They even list a 255HP turbine for $34,500. That is less than any prices i've seen for even the 540's. They claim to be working on or already have available FWF kits for the -10 model as well. Wow, i would love to see an RV-10T some day! Maybe I should think about installing the aux tanks! I wish. ;) Jae


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    Time: 07:34:28 AM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Alternative Turbine, Anyone?
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> "They even list a 255HP turbine for $34,500. That is less than any prices i've seen for even the 540's. They claim to be working on or already have available FWF kits for the -10 model as well." It's a miracle!!!!! A dead horse has been resurected!!!! Rick S. 40185 do not archive


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    Time: 07:52:02 AM PST US
    From: "W. Curtis" <wcurtis@core.com>
    Subject: Re: Overhead Console
    <p><a href="http://aircraftdoorseals.com">http://aircraftdoorseals.com</a></p><p><br />&gt;--&gt; RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis &lt;<a href="mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net">deemsdavis@cox.net</a>&gt;<br />&gt;Here's a couple of pics.<br />&gt;<br />&gt;http://deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03085.html<br />&gt;<br />&gt;I recall listening to Jim Erskin talking to Mike Sausen, Jim said he <br />&gt;paid $85 for the door seal, but I didn't catch where he got it. Mike do <br />&gt;you recall?<br />&gt;<br />&gt;Deems Davis # 406<br />&gt;Fuse/Finishing/Panel<br />&gt;http://deemsrv10.com/<br />&gt;<br />&gt;Jesse Saint wrote:<br />&gt;&gt;--&gt; RV10-List message posted by: &quot;Jesse Saint&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:jesse@itecusa.org">jesse@itecusa.org</a>&gt;<br />&gt;&gt;<br />&gt;&gt;Does anybody have any good detailed pictures of what Debbie did with her<br />&gt;&gt;door seals?<br />&gt;</p> William Curtis http://nerv10.com/


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    Time: 08:01:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Overhead Console
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    How much? Website says "call for quote" . . . TDT ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of W. Curtis Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:52 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Overhead Console http://aircraftdoorseals.com >--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> >Here's a couple of pics. > >http://deemsrv10.com/album/OSHKOSH%202006/slides/DSC03085.html > >I recall listening to Jim Erskin talking to Mike Sausen, Jim said he >paid $85 for the door seal, but I didn't catch where he got it. Mike do >you recall? > >Deems Davis # 406 >Fuse/Finishing/Panel >http://deemsrv10.com/ > >Jesse Saint wrote: >>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> >> >>Does anybody have any good detailed pictures of what Debbie did with her >>door seals? > William Curtis http://nerv10.com/


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    Time: 08:04:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Alternative turbine, anyone?
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    Hey, I've got a bridge for sale, too! Any takers? NY-Brooklyn-Bridge TDT Do not archive


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    Time: 08:13:07 AM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
    Subject: GPS & Autopilot Setup
    I am using a ControlVision GPS (HP ipaq 4700) connected to my Trio EZ Pilot Autopilot and it is not working properly. Is anyone else using this same setup? I'm trying to resolve the problem and I'm wondering if it's working for someone else. Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ


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    Time: 08:26:31 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Hi all, Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right the first time. ;) RV-10 Fly-In I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that gap between SNF and OSH. Having a blast! -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive


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    Time: 08:50:23 AM PST US
    From: "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
    Subject: Alternative Turbine, Anyone?
    I should have done more searching around, and now see the same promises have been made for the past several years. Oh well, I guess I will revert back to the original plan and install the Walter or PT-6! ;) Time to set those dreams aside for now and get back to some serious deburring... :( Jae -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:23 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? Let's not waste bandwidth re-hashing this. Try the alternative engine section of Van's Air Force discussion boards: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=22 TDT 40025 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Ekberg Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:33 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? What is the fuel consumption? Eric do not archive On 8/8/06, John Dunne <acs@acspropeller.com.au> wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au <mailto:acs@acspropeller.com.au> > Jae, your enthusiasm to provoke more engine wars is admirable!! :-) John 40315 Do not archive


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    Time: 08:52:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Alternative turbine, anyone?
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Sweet! I'll give you 3 chickens and a cow for it! Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM Subject: RV10-List: Alternative turbine, anyone? Hey, I've got a bridge for sale, too! Any takers? NY-Brooklyn-Bridge TDT Do not archive


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    Time: 09:05:08 AM PST US
    Subject: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and a full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start organizing it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough allot of people could also drive in. I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground support. Let me know Dan 40269 (N289DT) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Hi all, Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right the first time. ;) RV-10 Fly-In I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that gap between SNF and OSH. Having a blast! -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive


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    Time: 09:28:25 AM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> OK, where is Cedar Point? Rene' Felker 40322 N423CF Fuselage/finish -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and a full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start organizing it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough allot of people could also drive in. I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground support. Let me know Dan 40269 (N289DT) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Hi all, Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right the first time. ;) RV-10 Fly-In I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that gap between SNF and OSH. Having a blast! -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive


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    Time: 09:35:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Alternative turbine, anyone?
    From: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
    OK, I wasn't going to say anything but since it has started... The link below is from a guy who has the turbine thing figured out. Who need an airframe? Just strap these puppies to your legs and your good to go! http://www.bird-man.com/?n=windtunnel&nose=6 Enjoy, Vern (#40324 wings) Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:52 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Alternative turbine, anyone? Sweet! I'll give you 3 chickens and a cow for it! Michael Sausen RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving Do Not Archive Recent RV-10 Build Activity <http://www.mykitlog.com/display_project.php?project_id=22> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM Subject: RV10-List: Alternative turbine, anyone? Hey, I've got a bridge for sale, too! Any takers? Do not archive


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    Time: 09:42:13 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
    Subject: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
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    Time: 10:15:32 AM PST US
    From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Help With RV Mailing List
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> Hi Everyone I seem to still be having problems with the list and am uncertain as to what the problem may be. I created a new email address RV10@SHAW.CA to subscribe to three of the RV lists. A day or so after subscribing, I received a number of posts (all dated Sunday August 6th). The very last post received was from Majordomo@matronics.com indicating that I have been subscribed. Since then I have not received any of the new posts even though I can see new posts on the web browser version of the lists. I have made sure that I don't have any spam filtering in effect. The list subscription inquiry indicates that I am subscribed. Does anyone have any idea as to why I am not receiving any of the new posts? Regards Les Kearney Alberta, Canada PS: I have tried sending emails directly to the list coordinator but have not received a reply as of yet.


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    Time: 10:31:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Help With RV Mailing List
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com> I think maybe there's a "Canadian filter" on the list server! : ) TDT Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: RV10-List: Help With RV Mailing List --> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> Hi Everyone I seem to still be having problems with the list and am uncertain as to what the problem may be. I created a new email address RV10@SHAW.CA to subscribe to three of the RV lists. A day or so after subscribing, I received a number of posts (all dated Sunday August 6th). The very last post received was from Majordomo@matronics.com indicating that I have been subscribed. Since then I have not received any of the new posts even though I can see new posts on the web browser version of the lists. I have made sure that I don't have any spam filtering in effect. The list subscription inquiry indicates that I am subscribed. Does anyone have any idea as to why I am not receiving any of the new posts? Regards Les Kearney Alberta, Canada PS: I have tried sending emails directly to the list coordinator but have not received a reply as of yet.


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    Time: 10:54:17 AM PST US
    Subject: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in Sandusky, Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is www.cedarpoint.com Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> OK, where is Cedar Point? Rene' Felker 40322 N423CF Fuselage/finish -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and a full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start organizing it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough allot of people could also drive in. I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground support. Let me know Dan 40269 (N289DT) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Hi all, Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right the first time. ;) RV-10 Fly-In I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that gap between SNF and OSH. Having a blast! -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive


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    Time: 11:23:23 AM PST US
    From: Neil Colliver <neilcolliver@maxnet.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: bridge for sale
    I had a bridge for sale in London, a few years back - sold it to a bloke called McCulloch in Arizona! He had to pay for shipping though! On 9 Aug 2006, at 3:04, Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: > - > Hey, I=92ve got a bridge for sale, too!- Any takers? > - > - > <unknown.gif>NY-Brooklyn-Bridge > - > TDT > Do not archive > - > Neil


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    Time: 11:27:13 AM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Help With RV Mailing List
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> I think your right Tim, If your in Canada don't you have to put "/crownroyalrules" after your email address? ;) Rick S. 40185 do not archive


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    Time: 11:53:50 AM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: bridge for sale
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> Yup, fly over quite a bit, not really as impressive as the Tower Bridge though. Rick S. 40185 do not archive


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    Time: 01:31:05 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Fuel Pump Cooling Shroud
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I'm thinking that I may add a fuel pump cooling shroud some time, just because it seems like a prudent thing to do given the heat of the engine compartment. I found one at: http://showplanes.com/index_800.htm Does anyone know of any alternate suppliers? I just added about 4" extensions to my exhaust last night. Haven't flown with them yet. As many of you found at OSH, the older exhaust systems are shorter than the new. I figured I'd see if it made any noise difference, or if I can notice any heat difference. I don't have enough heat that it will be easy to tell, but if suddenly things are cooler then it'll be a plus. If it's quieter, that would be nice too, although it isn't super loud. Just more little things to tweak the bird closer to perfection. -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive


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    Time: 01:40:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> Cedar Point!!!! I am in! I grew up 20 miles away from there. Beautiful area. I haven't been back in years, but the amusement park and water park offer plenty of entertainment for family of all ages. While I never went to the airport, there are many restaurants and hotels that span the ranges of qualities and prices. Plenty of areas for camping and other activities. There are also great day trips just down the road about 20 minutes out of Port Clinton that go to the Islands in Lake Erie. Plenty to do and a great area. I am a little biased though. Eric Kallio 40518 waiting for SB wings Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53464#53464


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    Time: 01:55:02 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas, Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great. Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long weekend to do. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in Sandusky, > Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if > you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge > roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is > www.cedarpoint.com > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> > > OK, where is Cedar Point? > > Rene' Felker > 40322 > N423CF > Fuselage/finish > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel > R. > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central > location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and a > full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more > importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We > could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start organizing > it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there > should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough allot > of people could also drive in. > I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground > support. > Let me know > Dan > 40269 (N289DT) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hi all, > > Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the > time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. > It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real > test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really > gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html > > Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated > 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just > a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you > did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. > I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, > and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for > oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. > Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ > > Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to > flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production > version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my > Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have > s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being > used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, > and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with > GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work > with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had > a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. > I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently > had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre > after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all > up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen > it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and > then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready > to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the > mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right > the first time. ;) > > RV-10 Fly-In > I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get > 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just > read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the > factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that > once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers > to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by > Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it > by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead > to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that > gap between SNF and OSH. > > Having a blast! > >


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    Time: 02:10:36 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel Pump Cooling Shroud
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Newman" <rnewman@lutron.com> Tim, On my engine (0-540-E4B5) which I harvested from a Cherokee 6-260 the fuel pump came with a simple cooling shroud fed by a 1" scat tube. The shroud is super simple and may be easier to fabricate than source. If I can remember, I'll send you a picture. Bob >>> Tim@MyRV10.com 8/8/2006 4:30:38 PM >>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I'm thinking that I may add a fuel pump cooling shroud some time, just because it seems like a prudent thing to do given the heat of the engine compartment. I found one at: http://showplanes.com/index_800.htm Does anyone know of any alternate suppliers? I just added about 4" extensions to my exhaust last night. Haven't flown with them yet. As many of you found at OSH, the older exhaust systems are shorter than the new. I figured I'd see if it made any noise difference, or if I can notice any heat difference. I don't have enough heat that it will be easy to tell, but if suddenly things are cooler then it'll be a plus. If it's quieter, that would be nice too, although it isn't super loud. Just more little things to tweak the bird closer to perfection. -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive


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    Time: 02:16:52 PM PST US
    Subject: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com> Might have to do something like AOPA does: alternate years on the east side of the country, then the west . . . TDT 40025 Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas, Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great. Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long weekend to do. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in Sandusky, > Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if > you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge > roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is > www.cedarpoint.com > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> > > OK, where is Cedar Point? > > Rene' Felker > 40322 > N423CF > Fuselage/finish > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel > R. > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central > location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and a > full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more > importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We > could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start organizing > it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there > should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough allot > of people could also drive in. > I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground > support. > Let me know > Dan > 40269 (N289DT) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hi all, > > Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the > time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. > It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real > test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really > gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html > > Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated > 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just > a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you > did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. > I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, > and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for > oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. > Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ > > Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to > flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production > version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my > Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have > s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being > used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, > and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with > GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work > with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had > a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. > I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently > had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre > after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all > up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen > it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and > then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready > to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the > mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right > the first time. ;) > > RV-10 Fly-In > I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get > 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just > read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the > factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that > once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers > to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by > Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it > by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead > to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that > gap between SNF and OSH. > > Having a blast! > >


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    Time: 02:28:01 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
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    Time: 02:46:08 PM PST US
    From: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
    Subject: Re: RV10 gathering
    --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net> I for one would like to see ANY RV-10 (built) in person. I can't seem to get away from work for even a day. I'm in Massachusetts. -Jim 40384 Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com> > > >Might have to do something like AOPA does: alternate years on the east >side of the country, then the west . . . > >TDT >40025 >Do not archive > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson >Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > >Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but >for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than >Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas, >Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted >East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great. >Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, >but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout >as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require >a long weekend to do. > >Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >do not archive > > >Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: > > >>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." >> >> ><LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > >>That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in >> >> >Sandusky, > > >>Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if >>you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge >>roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is >>www.cedarpoint.com >> >>Dan >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker >>Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM >>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) >> >>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> >> >>OK, where is Cedar Point? >> >>Rene' Felker >>40322 >>N423CF >>Fuselage/finish >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, >> >> >Daniel > > >>R. >>Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM >>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) >> >>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." >><LloydDR@wernerco.com> >> >>I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central >>location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and >> >> >a > > >>full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more >>importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We >>could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start >> >> >organizing > > >>it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there >>should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough >> >> >allot > > >>of people could also drive in. >>I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground >>support. >>Let me know >>Dan >>40269 (N289DT) >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson >>Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM >>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) >> >>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> >> >>Hi all, >> >>Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the >>time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. >>It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real >>test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really >>gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. >> >>http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html >> >>Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated >>106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just >>a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you >>did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. >>I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, >>and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for >>oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. >>Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ >> >>Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to >>flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production >>version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my >>Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have >>s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being >>used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, >>and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with >>GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work >>with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had >>a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. >>I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently >>had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre >>after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all >>up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen >>it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and >>then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready >>to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the >>mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right >>the first time. ;) >> >>RV-10 Fly-In >>I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get >>75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just >>read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the >>factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that >>once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers >>to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by >>Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it >>by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead >>to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that >>gap between SNF and OSH. >> >>Having a blast! >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:52:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    From: "Bobby J. Hughes" <bhughes@qnsi.net>
    Mark, I vote for Lockhart TX. Bobby 40116 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:08 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Ritter" Cedar Point is central to what? Looks like its a long ways from Texas. But it does sound like a fun place. Mark (N410MR flying) ________________________________ From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 13:39:33 -0700 >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> > >Cedar Point!!!! I am in! I grew up 20 miles away from there. Beautiful area. I haven't been back in years, but the amusement park and water park offer plenty of entertainment for family of all ages. While I never went to the airport, there are many restaurants and hotels that span the ranges of qualities and prices. Plenty of areas for camping and other activities. There are also great day trips just down the road about 20 minutes out of Port Clinton that go to the Islands in ========================= to and http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List ========================= ========================= the ========================= ========================= http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========================= ===========


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    Time: 03:22:59 PM PST US
    Subject: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Actually the Kansas City area is pretty central and Worlds of Fun is located there. There are several area airports to choose from. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com> Might have to do something like AOPA does: alternate years on the east side of the country, then the west . . . TDT 40025 Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas, Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great. Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long weekend to do. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in Sandusky, > Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if > you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge > roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is > www.cedarpoint.com > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> > > OK, where is Cedar Point? > > Rene' Felker > 40322 > N423CF > Fuselage/finish > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel > R. > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central > location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and a > full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more > importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We > could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start organizing > it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there > should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough allot > of people could also drive in. > I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground > support. > Let me know > Dan > 40269 (N289DT) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hi all, > > Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the > time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. > It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real > test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really > gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html > > Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated > 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just > a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you > did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. > I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, > and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for > oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. > Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ > > Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to > flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production > version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my > Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have > s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being > used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, > and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with > GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work > with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had > a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. > I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently > had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre > after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all > up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen > it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and > then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready > to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the > mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right > the first time. ;) > > RV-10 Fly-In > I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get > 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just > read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the > factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that > once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers > to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by > Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it > by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead > to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that > gap between SNF and OSH. > > Having a blast! > >


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    Time: 03:35:33 PM PST US
    Subject: : RV10-List:RPM indications with Lightspeed
    From: "Neville Boyle" <nevilleboyle@bencomm.com.au>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Neville Boyle" <nevilleboyle@bencomm.com.au> Marcus , To get my light speed to read rpm on my GRT EIS I needed to put a resistor to the voltage supply in the DIN plug of the lightspeed to the feed wire to the eis I think I used about a 10 k Neville 40107 -----Original Message----- From: Tim Olson [mailto:Tim@MyRV10.com] Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 11:13 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List:RPM indications with Lightspeed --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Marcus, I'd start looking at the hardware being a possible cause. You may want to send the EIS to GRT and have them look at it. On mine, the tach out from the Lightspeed goes directly into the Tach in on the GRT. Then the only thing to screw up is the pulses per rev, and even if you mess up you should get some reading. There are no resistors or things needed to do this. Be aware though that you won't be able to easily feed the tach info from the mag AND the lightspeed into the EIS, since they both have different settings I think. One other thing to check before sending the unit back....are you SURE that you're actually firing and running on the Lightspeed? When I do a mag check with the Lightspeed off, it'll of course read "0" since it's not getting any input from the LSI. Could it be possible that your engine is only running on the mag? Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Marcus Cooper wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" > --> <coop85@bellsouth.net> > > I am still having trouble getting my Lightspeed RPM indication to work > on my Grand Rapids DIS and have a question. On the output line, there > are 3 options to choose from for RPM indications, analog, digital and > one other (I think, don't have the instruction handy unfortunately). > I opted for the digital pin but am still getting 0 RPM (and I have > accomplished the resistor/capacitor removal as required). Anyone have > any other recommended pins to use? There may be other issues > (undetected bad joint?) but I thought I'd start here. > > Thanks, > Marcus > Pseudo high-speed taxi today, it felt great! > > Do not archive >


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    Time: 03:37:38 PM PST US
    From: "Chris" <toaster73@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris" <toaster73@earthlink.net> Tim, I think I noticed the light strip under your panel lip, how do you like it? Thanks Chris Lucas #40072 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hi all, > > Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the > time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. > It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real > test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really > gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html > > Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated > 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just > a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you > did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. > I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, > and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for > oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. > Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ > > Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to > flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production > version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my > Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have > s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being > used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, > and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with > GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work > with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had > a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. > I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently > had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre > after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all > up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen > it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and > then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready > to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the > mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right > the first time. ;) > > RV-10 Fly-In > I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get > 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just > read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the > factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that > once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers > to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by > Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it > by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead > to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that > gap between SNF and OSH. > > Having a blast! > > > -- > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:12:08 PM PST US
    From: "Jack Sargeant" <k5wiv@amsat.org>
    Subject: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jack Sargeant" <k5wiv@amsat.org> I'd vote for Wichita. Quite central and lots of airplane factories. Jack Sargeant 1127 Patricia St. Wichita, KS 67208-2642 316/683-5268 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas, Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great. Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long weekend to do. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in Sandusky, > Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if > you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge > roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is > www.cedarpoint.com > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> > > OK, where is Cedar Point? > > Rene' Felker > 40322 > N423CF > Fuselage/finish > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel > R. > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central > location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and a > full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more > importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We > could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start organizing > it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there > should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough allot > of people could also drive in. > I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground > support. > Let me know > Dan > 40269 (N289DT) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hi all, > > Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the > time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. > It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real > test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really > gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html > > Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated > 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just > a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you > did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. > I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, > and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for > oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. > Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ > > Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to > flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production > version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my > Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have > s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being > used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, > and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with > GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work > with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had > a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. > I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently > had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre > after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all > up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen > it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and > then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready > to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the > mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right > the first time. ;) > > RV-10 Fly-In > I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get > 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just > read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the > factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that > once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers > to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by > Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it > by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead > to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that > gap between SNF and OSH. > > Having a blast! > >


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    Time: 04:18:45 PM PST US
    From: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
    Subject: Tug
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    Time: 04:30:12 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> The EL strip works really good, but I'm going to add a couple of those LED lights that Stein sells that aim at my lower left and lower right panel area, because the EL light doesn't illuminate the switch and breaker area of my panel quite enough, and if it could, it would be obnoxiously bright I think. So filling in from a couple of locations would be nice. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Chris wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris" <toaster73@earthlink.net> > > Tim, > I think I noticed the light strip under your panel lip, how do you like it? > Thanks > Chris Lucas > #40072 > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the >> time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. >> It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real >> test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really >> gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. >> >> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html >> >> Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated >> 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just >> a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you >> did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. >> I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, >> and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for >> oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. >> Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ >> >> Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to >> flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production >> version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my >> Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have >> s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being >> used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, >> and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with >> GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work >> with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had >> a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. >> I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently >> had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre >> after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all >> up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen >> it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and >> then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready >> to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the >> mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right >> the first time. ;) >> >> RV-10 Fly-In >> I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get >> 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just >> read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the >> factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that >> once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers >> to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by >> Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it >> by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead >> to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that >> gap between SNF and OSH. >> >> Having a blast! >> >> >> -- >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >> do not archive >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > Limit Now At: 1MB - 08/08/06 (was 2MB) > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:12:59 PM PST US
    Subject: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Wherever Cedar Point is, it is incumbent that the individual(s) doing the work must have it convenient. Tim, have you heard of such a place. I would be willing to coordinated Aurora, OR home of VANS but believe it would drop many from the East Coast. I have heard Wright Patterson Museum is a great location other than Eau Clare. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:04 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and a full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start organizing it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough allot of people could also drive in. I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground support. Let me know Dan 40269 (N289DT) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Hi all, Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right the first time. ;) RV-10 Fly-In I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that gap between SNF and OSH. Having a blast! -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive


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    Time: 06:18:59 PM PST US
    From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Alternative Turbine, Anyone?
    I'm always perplexed when people talk about wasting bandwidth on this-or-that-subject, or say "you should check the archives, don't waste our time" as if we're some sort of elite web board. If this isn't a board for talking about everything RV-10 related, then what is? I don't want to search the archive for something, I want to hear how people think about things NOW, not a year or two ago. I for one, will always want to hear anything that starts to smell like Innodyn (or another company) is finally making progress on a new engine. Hey, if a new primer comes out, or a twist on an old one, we sure aren't going to learn about it in the archives, and I'll happily start the primer war all over again just to learn more. If you don't like the subject, or don't care to respond, you can always practice free will and do what I do when I see the three-hundredth message on "overhead console" or the 30th "congratulations" message for a first flight . . . . I delete it. Besides, this is spare time. If it weren't, we'd be out banging rivets. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Dawson-Townsend To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:23 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? Let's not waste bandwidth re-hashing this. Try the alternative engine section of Van's Air Force discussion boards: http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=22 TDT 40025 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Ekberg Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:33 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? What is the fuel consumption? Eric do not archive On 8/8/06, John Dunne <acs@acspropeller.com.au> wrote: --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au > Jae, your enthusiasm to provoke more engine wars is admirable!! :-) John 40315 Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2006 3:17 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Alternative Turbine, Anyone? --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com > http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/news_archives/news_08_04_06_01.htm In case anyone missed this posting from the VAF site, here is the link above announcing a first flight for an RV-8T. http://www.innodyn.com/aviation/products.html They even list a 255HP turbine for $34,500. That is less than any prices i've seen for even the 540's. They claim to be working on or already have available FWF kits for the -10 model as well. Wow, i would love to see an RV-10T some day! Maybe I should think about installing the aux tanks! I wish. ;)


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    Time: 06:22:41 PM PST US
    From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net> Cedar Point and SKY are great locations. It is on the western side of OH. SKY has plenty of grass to tie down a few dozen planes. Someone said "close enough to make it just a weekend." I don't think anyone from east of west coast could make it to anywhere central, and have any time at all to hang out, in just two days. That said, Cedar Point is a good three hour flight from New York. Closer for East Coasters but still a good site. We might consider two flyins - RV10 East and RV10 West - unless we're willing to fly all day to get there for one day. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:12 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > > Wherever Cedar Point is, it is incumbent that the individual(s) doing > the work must have it convenient. Tim, have you heard of such a place. > > I would be willing to coordinated Aurora, OR home of VANS but believe it > would drop many from the East Coast. I have heard Wright Patterson > Museum is a great location other than Eau Clare. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel > R. > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:04 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central > location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and a > full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more > importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We > could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start organizing > it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there > should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough allot > of people could also drive in. > I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground > support. > Let me know > Dan > 40269 (N289DT) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hi all, > > Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the > time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. > It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real > test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really > gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html > > Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated > 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just > a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you > did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. > I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, > and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for > oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. > Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ > > Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to > flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production > version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my > Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have > s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being > used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, > and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with > GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work > with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had > a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. > I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently > had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre > after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all > up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen > it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and > then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready > to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the > mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right > the first time. ;) > > RV-10 Fly-In > I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get > 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just > read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the > factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that > once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers > to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by > Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it > by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead > to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that > gap between SNF and OSH. > > Having a blast! > > > -- > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > >


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    Time: 06:24:10 PM PST US
    From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net> I worked there when I was 18. Great place. Easy flight for me - only 30 minutes from Detroit by air. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:39 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> > > Cedar Point!!!! I am in! I grew up 20 miles away from there. Beautiful > area. I haven't been back in years, but the amusement park and water park > offer plenty of entertainment for family of all ages. While I never went > to the airport, there are many restaurants and hotels that span the ranges > of qualities and prices. Plenty of areas for camping and other activities. > There are also great day trips just down the road about 20 minutes out of > Port Clinton that go to the Islands in Lake Erie. Plenty to do and a great > area. I am a little biased though. > > Eric Kallio > 40518 waiting for SB wings > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53464#53464 > > >


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    Time: 06:33:53 PM PST US
    From: DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Tug
    I am thinking about putting a tow hitch on the front of my Toyota P.U. Open to other suggestions DO NOT ARCHIVE Doug P


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    Time: 06:35:38 PM PST US
    From: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
    Subject: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net> Is there someone out there with enough time and know-how on their hands to plot all of us on a map and find the mean location between all of us? Maybe the Frappr could help with that. Rob Wright #392 QB wings -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA) Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:22 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Actually the Kansas City area is pretty central and Worlds of Fun is located there. There are several area airports to choose from. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com> Might have to do something like AOPA does: alternate years on the east side of the country, then the west . . . TDT 40025 Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas, Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great. Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long weekend to do. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in Sandusky, > Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if > you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge > roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is > www.cedarpoint.com > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> > > OK, where is Cedar Point? > > Rene' Felker > 40322 > N423CF > Fuselage/finish > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel > R. > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central > location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and a > full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more > importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We > could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start organizing > it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there > should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough allot > of people could also drive in. > I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground > support. > Let me know > Dan > 40269 (N289DT) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hi all, > > Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the > time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. > It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real > test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really > gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html > > Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated > 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just > a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you > did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. > I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, > and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for > oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. > Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ > > Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to > flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production > version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my > Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have > s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being > used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, > and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with > GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work > with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had > a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. > I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently > had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre > after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all > up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen > it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and > then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready > to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the > mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right > the first time. ;) > > RV-10 Fly-In > I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get > 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just > read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the > factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that > once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers > to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by > Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it > by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead > to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that > gap between SNF and OSH. > > Having a blast! > >


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    Time: 06:44:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net> Any chance you could add do not archive to these for those of us that actually do try and search the archives for reference. Always nice when someone searches for IFR flight to not find a bunch of unrelated garbage. Not being elitist, just trying to be neighborly. Michael Sausen Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77 Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:24 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net> I worked there when I was 18. Great place. Easy flight for me - only 30 minutes from Detroit by air. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:39 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> > > Cedar Point!!!! I am in! I grew up 20 miles away from there. Beautiful > area. I haven't been back in years, but the amusement park and water > park offer plenty of entertainment for family of all ages. While I > never went to the airport, there are many restaurants and hotels that > span the ranges of qualities and prices. Plenty of areas for camping and other activities. > There are also great day trips just down the road about 20 minutes out > of Port Clinton that go to the Islands in Lake Erie. Plenty to do and > a great area. I am a little biased though. > > Eric Kallio > 40518 waiting for SB wings > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=53464#53464 > > >


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    Time: 06:46:21 PM PST US
    From: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au>
    Subject: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Dunne" <acs@acspropeller.com.au> Rob, I've already done that...and it's Brisbane Australia. Beautiful beaches, great food, good people, heaps of attractions for the kids and an international airport for you guys to land at ;-) John 40315 do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert G. Wright Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2006 11:35 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net> Is there someone out there with enough time and know-how on their hands to plot all of us on a map and find the mean location between all of us? Maybe the Frappr could help with that. Rob Wright #392 QB wings -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA) Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:22 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Actually the Kansas City area is pretty central and Worlds of Fun is located there. There are several area airports to choose from. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Dawson-Townsend Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:15 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com> Might have to do something like AOPA does: alternate years on the east side of the country, then the west . . . TDT 40025 Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas, Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great. Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long weekend to do. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in Sandusky, > Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if > you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge > roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is > www.cedarpoint.com > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> > > OK, where is Cedar Point? > > Rene' Felker > 40322 > N423CF > Fuselage/finish > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel > R. > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central > location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and a > full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more > importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We > could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start organizing > it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there > should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough allot > of people could also drive in. > I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground > support. > Let me know > Dan > 40269 (N289DT) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hi all, > > Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the > time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. > It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real > test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really > gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html > > Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated > 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just > a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you > did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. > I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, > and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for > oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. > Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ > > Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to > flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production > version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my > Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have > s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being > used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, > and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with > GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work > with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had > a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. > I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently > had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre > after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all > up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen > it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and > then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready > to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the > mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right > the first time. ;) > > RV-10 Fly-In > I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get > 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just > read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the > factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that > once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers > to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by > Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it > by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead > to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that > gap between SNF and OSH. > > Having a blast! > >


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    Time: 09:59:05 PM PST US
    From: EFDsteve@aol.com
    Subject: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    The geographical center of the lower 48 states is Lebanon, KS, and the weighted population center of the U.S. is near Edgar Springs, MO. Kansas City is about half way between these two towns, so I'll second that. (how's that for logic?) Steve Weinstock 40230 --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jack Sargeant" <k5wiv@amsat.org> I'd vote for Wichita. Quite central and lots of airplane factories. Jack Sargeant 1127 Patricia St. Wichita, KS 67208-2642 316/683-5268 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas, Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great. Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long weekend to do. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in Sandusky, > Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if > you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge > roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is > www.cedarpoint.com > > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com> > > OK, where is Cedar Point? > > Rene' Felker > 40322 > N423CF > Fuselage/finish > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel > R. > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central > location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and a > full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more > importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We > could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start organizing > it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there > should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough allot > of people could also drive in. > I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground > support. > Let me know > Dan > 40269 (N289DT) > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Hi all, > > Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the > time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip. > It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real > test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really > gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10. > > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html > > Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated > 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just > a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you > did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues. > I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too, > and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for > oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits. > Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/ > > Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to > flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production > version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my > Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have > s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being > used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well, > and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with > GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work > with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had > a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault. > I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently > had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre > after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all > up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen > it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and > then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready > to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the > mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right > the first time. ;) > > RV-10 Fly-In > I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get > 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just > read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the > factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that > once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers > to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by > Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it > by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead > to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that > gap between SNF and OSH. > > Having a blast!


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    Time: 11:20:50 PM PST US
    From: Rodger Todd <rj_todd@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rodger Todd <rj_todd@yahoo.co.uk> I would second that John - great place for what ever you fancy for you and the family; I'll definately be coming! Rodger YPPD --- John Dunne <acs@acspropeller.com.au> wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Dunne" > <acs@acspropeller.com.au> > > Rob, I've already done that...and it's Brisbane > Australia. Beautiful > beaches, great food, good people, heaps of > attractions for the kids and an > international airport for you guys to land at ;-) > John 40315 do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Robert G. Wright > Sent: Wednesday, 9 August 2006 11:35 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the > RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Robert G. Wright" > <armywrights@adelphia.net> > > Is there someone out there with enough time and > know-how on their hands to > plot all of us on a map and find the mean location > between all of us? Maybe > the Frappr could help with that. > > Rob Wright > #392 > QB wings > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US > SSA) > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:22 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the > RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US > SSA)" > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> > > Actually the Kansas City area is pretty central and > Worlds of Fun is > located there. There are several area airports to > choose from. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Tim > Dawson-Townsend > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:15 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the > RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim > Dawson-Townsend" > <Tdawson@Avidyne.com> > > > Might have to do something like AOPA does: > alternate years on the east > side of the country, then the west . . . > > TDT > 40025 > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the > RV-10 (and more) > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the > place looks nice, but > for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more > centralized than > Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from > California, Vegas, > Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a > little too shifted > East for what I was thinking...but for me personally > it works great. > Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll > settle on something, > but the most important part in my mind is getting as > big a turnout > as possible for a weekend event.....something that > wouldn't require > a long weekend to do. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote: > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel > R." > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > > > That probably would have been pertinent > information. It is in > Sandusky, > > Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is > the identifier and if > > you go to google and look at the satellite images > you can see the huge > > roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in > the air. Website is > > www.cedarpoint.com > > > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Rene Felker > > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the > RV-10 (and more) > > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" > <rene@felker.com> > > > > OK, where is Cedar Point? > > > > Rene' Felker > > 40322 > > N423CF > > Fuselage/finish > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Lloyd, > Daniel > > R. > > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the > RV-10 (and more) > > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel > R." > > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > > > I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point > for a central > > location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 > roller coasters, and > a > > full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping > and hotels, and more > > importantly has an airport across the street with > shuttle service. We > > could negotiate group rates and get it started. We > can start > organizing > > it now, and see what the interest is, by June or > July next year there > > should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is > central enough > allot > > of people could also drive in. > > I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing > the required ground > > support. > > Let me know > > Dan > > 40269 (N289DT) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of Tim Olson > > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 > (and more) > > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson > <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > > > Hi all, > > > === message truncated == ___________________________________________________________ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html




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