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1. 01:31 AM - Re: Tug (Rob Kermanj)
2. 01:38 AM - Re: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Rob Kermanj)
3. 05:50 AM - Re: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
4. 06:21 AM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
5. 06:37 AM - Re: RV-10 gathering (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
6. 07:25 AM - Re: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Pierre Levy)
7. 07:37 AM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 gathering (Mark Ritter)
9. 07:53 AM - Re: RV-10 gathering (Mike Lauritsen - Work)
10. 08:30 AM - Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
11. 08:49 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 gathering (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
12. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 gathering (John Jessen)
13. 09:35 AM - Re: Re: Re: RV-10 gathering ()
14. 10:06 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 gathering (Tim Olson)
15. 10:27 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 gathering (Tim Dawson-Townsend)
16. 10:56 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 gathering (Tim Olson)
17. 10:59 AM - has anyone had this problem? (Rob Kermanj)
18. 11:20 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 gathering (Jae Chang)
19. 11:26 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 gathering (Kelly McMullen)
20. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 gathering (John Jessen)
21. 03:48 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 gathering (John W. Cox)
22. 05:10 PM - Arc protection diodes (Rick)
23. 05:45 PM - Re: Arc protection diodes (Carl Froehlich)
24. 06:00 PM - Re: has anyone had this problem? (Russell Daves)
25. 06:04 PM - Re: Tug (Rene)
26. 07:31 PM - Re: Tug (Rick)
27. 09:31 PM - Re: Re: RV-10 gathering (bob.kaufmann)
28. 09:33 PM - Skins (Sean Blair)
29. 09:37 PM - Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10 (Tim Olson)
30. 09:44 PM - lighting (Sean Blair)
31. 09:45 PM - Re: has anyone had this problem? (Tim Olson)
32. 09:55 PM - Re: Skins (Tim Olson)
33. 10:02 PM - Re: Skins (Sean Blair)
34. 10:13 PM - Re: lighting (EFDsteve@AOL.COM)
35. 11:51 PM - Re: Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10 (Henkjan van der Zouw)
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I am using Brackett tow bar and a golf cart to move the RV around.
They have a web site and the right adopter for the RV10 nose gear. I
sent pictures through the list a while ago and it might still be in
the archives. Email me if you do not find it and have further interest.
do not archive
Rob Kermanj
On Aug 8, 2006, at 7:18 PM, Mark Ritter wrote:
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> Is any body using a tug to move their RV-10 around? If so, please
> share information on make, model, price, etc. Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) |
I vote for Kansas, smack in the middle of the country. Mostly for
those of us living at the edges of the map. I will however try and
come to whatever location is selected.
On Aug 8, 2006, at 9:23 PM, jdalton77 wrote:
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> I worked there when I was 18. Great place. Easy flight for me -
> only 30 minutes from Detroit by air.
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> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:39 PM
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>> Cedar Point!!!! I am in! I grew up 20 miles away from there.
>> Beautiful area. I haven't been back in years, but the amusement
>> park and water park offer plenty of entertainment for family of
>> all ages. While I never went to the airport, there are many
>> restaurants and hotels that span the ranges of qualities and
>> prices. Plenty of areas for camping and other activities. There
>> are also great day trips just down the road about 20 minutes out
>> of Port Clinton that go to the Islands in Lake Erie. Plenty to do
>> and a great area. I am a little biased though.
>>
>> Eric Kallio
>> 40518 waiting for SB wings
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| Subject: | Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) |
My home airport in K34 in Gardner Kansas, and we have
excellent BBQ at K81 just 10 minutes away. We are just 40 minutes drive
south west on I35 of Kansas City. The only problem with this locataion
is it is about 1 hour drive to Worlds of fun, but these two airports are
very GA friendly and you can pop a tent at K34 for sure.
Thank You
Ray Doerr
40250
N519RV (Flying)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
I vote for Kansas, smack in the middle of the country. Mostly for those
of us living at the edges of the map. I will however try and come to
whatever location is selected.
On Aug 8, 2006, at 9:23 PM, jdalton77 wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
I worked there when I was 18. Great place. Easy flight for me - only
30 minutes from Detroit by air.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio"
<scout019@msn.com>
Cedar Point!!!! I am in! I grew up 20 miles away from there.
Beautiful area. I haven't been back in years, but the amusement park and
water park offer plenty of entertainment for family of all ages. While I
never went to the airport, there are many restaurants and hotels that
span the ranges of qualities and prices. Plenty of areas for camping and
other activities. There are also great day trips just down the road
about 20 minutes out of Port Clinton that go to the Islands in Lake
Erie. Plenty to do and a great area. I am a little biased though.
Eric Kallio
40518 waiting for SB wings
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| Subject: | First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give an example
of a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for the
families to entice people. I also looked at the map that was put
together for those that were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went back out
to Frapper, where I should have gone in the first place, it looks like
the TN/ KY border is central to the 200 hits on the map, but what is
there to draw the pilots and families? Maybe as suggested an east/west
alternating years, or ??
I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in meeting
the RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support the effort,
no matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would have draw
for families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a huge draw
as well, but they do not have an airport within walking distance.
Just my .02 as usual
Dan
40269 (N289DT)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but
for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than
Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas,
Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted
East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great.
Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something,
but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout
as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require
a long weekend to do.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in
Sandusky,
> Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if
> you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge
> roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is
> www.cedarpoint.com
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>
> OK, where is Cedar Point?
>
> Rene' Felker
> 40322
> N423CF
> Fuselage/finish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
Daniel
> R.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central
> location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and
a
> full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more
> importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We
> could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
organizing
> it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there
> should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough
allot
> of people could also drive in.
> I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground
> support.
> Let me know
> Dan
> 40269 (N289DT)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the
> time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip.
> It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real
> test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really
> gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10.
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html
>
> Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated
> 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just
> a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you
> did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues.
> I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too,
> and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for
> oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits.
> Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/
>
> Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to
> flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production
> version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my
> Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have
> s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being
> used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well,
> and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with
> GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work
> with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had
> a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault.
> I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently
> had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre
> after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all
> up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen
> it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and
> then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready
> to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the
> mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right
> the first time. ;)
>
> RV-10 Fly-In
> I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get
> 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just
> read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the
> factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that
> once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers
> to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by
> Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it
> by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead
> to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that
> gap between SNF and OSH.
>
> Having a blast!
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for those of us
with an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as
Wright Brothers historical sites. Several handy airports . . .
TDT
40025
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
R.
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give an example
of a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for the
families to entice people. I also looked at the map that was put
together for those that were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went back out
to Frapper, where I should have gone in the first place, it looks like
the TN/ KY border is central to the 200 hits on the map, but what is
there to draw the pilots and families? Maybe as suggested an east/west
alternating years, or ??
I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in meeting
the RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support the effort,
no matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would have draw
for families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a huge draw
as well, but they do not have an airport within walking distance.
Just my .02 as usual
Dan
40269 (N289DT)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but
for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than
Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas,
Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted
East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great.
Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something,
but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout
as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require
a long weekend to do.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in
Sandusky,
> Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if
> you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge
> roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is
> www.cedarpoint.com
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>
> OK, where is Cedar Point?
>
> Rene' Felker
> 40322
> N423CF
> Fuselage/finish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
Daniel
> R.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central
> location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and
a
> full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more
> importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We
> could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
organizing
> it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there
> should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough
allot
> of people could also drive in.
> I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground
> support.
> Let me know
> Dan
> 40269 (N289DT)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the
> time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip.
> It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real
> test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really
> gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10.
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html
>
> Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated
> 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just
> a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you
> did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues.
> I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too,
> and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for
> oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits.
> Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/
>
> Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to
> flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production
> version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my
> Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have
> s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being
> used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well,
> and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with
> GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work
> with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had
> a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault.
> I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently
> had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre
> after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all
> up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen
> it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and
> then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready
> to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the
> mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right
> the first time. ;)
>
> RV-10 Fly-In
> I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get
> 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just
> read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the
> factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that
> once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers
> to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by
> Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it
> by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead
> to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that
> gap between SNF and OSH.
>
> Having a blast!
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more) |
I vote for Kansas as well. Easier for us in the western states.
Pierre Levy
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 2:38 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
I vote for Kansas, smack in the middle of the country. Mostly for those
of us living at the edges of the map. I will however try and come to
whatever location is selected.
On Aug 8, 2006, at 9:23 PM, jdalton77 wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "jdalton77"
<jdalton77@comcast.net>
I worked there when I was 18. Great place. Easy flight for me
- only 30 minutes from Detroit by air.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric_Kallio"
<scout019@msn.com>
To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Eric_Kallio"
<scout019@msn.com>
Cedar Point!!!! I am in! I grew up 20 miles away from
there. Beautiful area. I haven't been back in years, but the amusement
park and water park offer plenty of entertainment for family of all
ages. While I never went to the airport, there are many restaurants and
hotels that span the ranges of qualities and prices. Plenty of areas for
camping and other activities. There are also great day trips just down
the road about 20 minutes out of Port Clinton that go to the Islands in
Lake Erie. Plenty to do and a great area. I am a little biased though.
Eric Kallio
40518 waiting for SB wings
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
I think Dan hit the nail on the head, it's not so much where it is as
long as it's something. Let's just try to keep it someplace interesting
even if it's not "central". We are building these comfortable and fast
planes to go a distance so I'm happy as long as I can get there in a
reasonable amount of time.
I define reasonable as directly proportional to the things to do at
the destination or the ability for my wife and daughter to be
sufficiently engaged as not to want to leave right away or bug me
non-stop. :D
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
R.
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:21 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
--> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give an example
of a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for the
families to entice people. I also looked at the map that was put
together for those that were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went back out
to Frapper, where I should have gone in the first place, it looks like
the TN/ KY border is central to the 200 hits on the map, but what is
there to draw the pilots and families? Maybe as suggested an east/west
alternating years, or ??
I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in meeting
the RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support the effort,
no matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would have draw
for families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a huge draw
as well, but they do not have an airport within walking distance.
Just my .02 as usual
Dan
40269 (N289DT)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but
for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than
Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas,
Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted
East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great.
Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but
the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as
possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long
weekend to do.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in
Sandusky,
> Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if
> you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge
> roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is
> www.cedarpoint.com
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>
> OK, where is Cedar Point?
>
> Rene' Felker
> 40322
> N423CF
> Fuselage/finish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
Daniel
> R.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central
> location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and
a
> full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more
> importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We
> could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
organizing
> it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there
> should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough
allot
> of people could also drive in.
> I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground
> support.
> Let me know
> Dan
> 40269 (N289DT)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the
> time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip.
> It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real
> test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really
> gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10.
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html
>
> Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated
> 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just a
> 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you did an
> acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues.
> I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too,
> and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for oil
> analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits.
> Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/
>
> Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to flow to
> the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production version in
> for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my Digiflight II VSGV
> back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have s/w version 2.11 which has
> some bugs, especially when being used with my GNS480. That should be
> back this week as well, and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it
> tracks altitude with GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how
> things work with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I
> had a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault.
> I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently had 2
> of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre after it
> popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all up, not
> knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen it and prime.
> In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and then lose it, I
> should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready to cut the throttle
> back immediately while also going richer on the mixture once it fires.
> In short, it's better to get it right the first time. ;)
>
> RV-10 Fly-In
> I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get
> 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just
> read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the factory
> for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that once we
> pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to make a US
> Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by Ray down in Kansas or
> something...but would be nice to have it by some great family
> attraction place. Just thinking ahead to next spring...maybe the
> May/June timeframe to fill that gap between SNF and OSH.
>
> Having a blast!
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Lauritsen - Work" <mike@cleavelandtool.com>
I guess I will chime in with some opinions since I spend a fair amount of
time at Fly-Ins.
I like the idea of centrally located if people want it to be a growing
organized event. It is hard enough to organize something year to year in a
fixed location, alternating E&W would be very difficult. If the object is
to fly somewhere different each year and congregate as a group and then be a
tourist for a few days (like many of the car guys do) that would be fun too.
If a fixed location is decided on it should be within an hours drive from a
major airport for those that want to get there on the airline. How Oshkosh
made it past this is perplexing to me, but the other major Regional EAA
shows fit this pattern. There will be lots of flying RV-10 coming up, but
it seems that the building stage guys would be very interested in this type
of thing also.
I would like to see it in February somewhere in the South where the North
half of us could fly down and thaw out for a couple of days. Rather than
jam it in with all the rest of the spring/summer fly-ins.
.02
Mike Lauritsen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:36 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for those of us
with an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as
Wright Brothers historical sites. Several handy airports . . .
TDT
40025
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
R.
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give an example
of a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for the
families to entice people. I also looked at the map that was put
together for those that were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went back out
to Frapper, where I should have gone in the first place, it looks like
the TN/ KY border is central to the 200 hits on the map, but what is
there to draw the pilots and families? Maybe as suggested an east/west
alternating years, or ??
I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in meeting
the RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support the effort,
no matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would have draw
for families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a huge draw
as well, but they do not have an airport within walking distance.
Just my .02 as usual
Dan
40269 (N289DT)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but
for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than
Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas,
Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted
East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great.
Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something,
but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout
as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require
a long weekend to do.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in
Sandusky,
> Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if
> you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge
> roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is
> www.cedarpoint.com
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>
> OK, where is Cedar Point?
>
> Rene' Felker
> 40322
> N423CF
> Fuselage/finish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
Daniel
> R.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central
> location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and
a
> full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more
> importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We
> could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
organizing
> it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there
> should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough
allot
> of people could also drive in.
> I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground
> support.
> Let me know
> Dan
> 40269 (N289DT)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> RV-10 Fly-In
> I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get
> 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just
> read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the
> factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that
> once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers
> to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by
> Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it
> by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead
> to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that
> gap between SNF and OSH.
>
> Having a blast!
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
Agreed, I get one airplane show a year, maybe two, but to ask the family
to go to another airplane event would be difficult. But if I say lets go
to an amusement park or whatever I can sell as fun for them, then I can
go, the wives and kids can get together while we talk airplanes.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)"
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
I think Dan hit the nail on the head, it's not so much where it is as
long as it's something. Let's just try to keep it someplace interesting
even if it's not "central". We are building these comfortable and fast
planes to go a distance so I'm happy as long as I can get there in a
reasonable amount of time.
I define reasonable as directly proportional to the things to do at
the destination or the ability for my wife and daughter to be
sufficiently engaged as not to want to leave right away or bug me
non-stop. :D
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
R.
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:21 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
--> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give an example
of a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for the
families to entice people. I also looked at the map that was put
together for those that were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went back out
to Frapper, where I should have gone in the first place, it looks like
the TN/ KY border is central to the 200 hits on the map, but what is
there to draw the pilots and families? Maybe as suggested an east/west
alternating years, or ??
I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in meeting
the RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support the effort,
no matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would have draw
for families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a huge draw
as well, but they do not have an airport within walking distance.
Just my .02 as usual
Dan
40269 (N289DT)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but
for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than
Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas,
Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted
East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great.
Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but
the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as
possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long
weekend to do.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in
Sandusky,
> Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if
> you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge
> roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is
> www.cedarpoint.com
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>
> OK, where is Cedar Point?
>
> Rene' Felker
> 40322
> N423CF
> Fuselage/finish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
Daniel
> R.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central
> location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and
a
> full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more
> importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We
> could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
organizing
> it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there
> should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough
allot
> of people could also drive in.
> I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground
> support.
> Let me know
> Dan
> 40269 (N289DT)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the
> time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip.
> It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real
> test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really
> gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10.
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html
>
> Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated
> 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just a
> 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you did an
> acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues.
> I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too,
> and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for oil
> analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits.
> Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/
>
> Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to flow to
> the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production version in
> for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my Digiflight II VSGV
> back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have s/w version 2.11 which has
> some bugs, especially when being used with my GNS480. That should be
> back this week as well, and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it
> tracks altitude with GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how
> things work with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I
> had a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault.
> I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently had 2
> of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre after it
> popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all up, not
> knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen it and prime.
> In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and then lose it, I
> should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready to cut the throttle
> back immediately while also going richer on the mixture once it fires.
> In short, it's better to get it right the first time. ;)
>
> RV-10 Fly-In
> I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get
> 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just
> read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the factory
> for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that once we
> pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to make a US
> Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by Ray down in Kansas or
> something...but would be nice to have it by some great family
> attraction place. Just thinking ahead to next spring...maybe the
> May/June timeframe to fill that gap between SNF and OSH.
>
> Having a blast!
>
>
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That wouldn't be bad if you can plan it in the one month period where it
isn't raining or over 100. :D
Michael Sausen
Roasting in the Ft Worth area
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Ritter"
How about Lockhart, TX the Bar-B-Que capital of the world for those with
a southwesterly view? Luling, TX, the watermelon captial of the world,
is only ten miles away and Austin, TX, the home of the National Football
Champion Texas Longhorns, is only 30 miles to the north.
Mark
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________________________________
From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:35:45 -0400
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
<Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
>Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for
those of us
>with an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as
well as
>Wright Brothers historical sites. Several handy airports . .
.
>
>TDT
>40025
>Do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Lloyd, Daniel
>R.
>Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:21 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and
more)
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
><LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
>I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give
an example
>of a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for
the
>families to entice people. I also looked at the map that was
put
>together for those that were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went
back out
>to Frapper, where I should have gone in the first place, it
looks like
>the TN/ KY border is central to the 200 hits on the map, but
what is
>there to draw the pilots and families? Maybe as suggested an
east/west
>alternating years, or ??
>I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in
meeting
>the RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
>My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support
the effort,
>no matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would
have draw
>for families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a
huge draw
>as well, but they do not have an airport within walking
distance.
>Just my .02 as usual
>Dan
>40269 (N289DT)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Olson
>Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and
more)
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
>Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks
nice, but
>for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized
than
>Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California,
Vegas,
>Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too
shifted
>East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works
great.
>Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on
something,
>but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a
turnout
>as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't
require
>a long weekend to do.
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
><LloydDR@wernerco.com>
> >
> > That probably would have been pertinent information. It is
in
>Sandusky,
> > Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the
identifier and if
> > you go to google and look at the satellite images you can
see the huge
> > roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air.
Website is
> > www.cedarpoint.com
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Rene Felker
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and
more)
> >
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker"
<rene@felker.com>
> >
> > OK, where is Cedar Point?
> >
> > Rene' Felker
> > 40322
> > N423CF
> > Fuselage/finish
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Lloyd,
>Daniel
> > R.
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and
more)
> >
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> > <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
> >
> > I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a
central
> > location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller
coasters, and
>a
> > full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels,
and more
> > importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle
service. We
> > could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
>organizing
> > it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next
year there
> > should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central
enough
>allot
> > of people could also drive in.
> > I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the
required ground
> > support.
> > Let me know
> > Dan
> > 40269 (N289DT)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Tim Olson
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
> >
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had
to take the
> > time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's
trip.
> > It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the
first real
> > test of how everything would function in such conditions.
It really
> > gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10.
> >
> > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html
> >
> > Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now
accumulated
> > 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's
just
> > a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like
you
> > did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues.
> > I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50
oil too,
> > and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up
for
> > oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits.
> > Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/
> >
> > Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting
to
> > flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a
production
> > version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my
> > Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I
have
> > s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being
> > used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well,
> > and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude
with
> > GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work
> > with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I
had
> > a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault.
> > I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but
recently
> > had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or
mixutre
> > after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I
screwed it all
> > up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or
richen
> > it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire
and
> > then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be
ready
> > to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer
on the
> > mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it
right
> > the first time. ;)
> >
> > RV-10 Fly-In
> > I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we
get
> > 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next
year. I just
> > read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to
the
> > factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd
think that
> > once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient
numbers
> > to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe
by
> > Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have
it
> > by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead
> > to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that
> > gap between SNF and
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Mike has several good points. I'd like to be included, even though I'm not
finished, and I'd like it not to be in the busy time of year. Speaking of
the Midwest and twisters, hail, and other nasty stuff, we also might want it
during the time of year that corresponds to relatively good weather, if
there is such a thing. New England in the Fall comes to mind. Course, then
the kids are in school.
I don't care if it's moved each year. In fact I think that is best. We
could spend time discussing the next 5 locations, set those, then add one
location per year beyond that. We need to have the ability for a person to
fly there commercially and drive for not more than a couple hours to get to
the location. It should have an attraction for families and the attraction
does not have to about planes. I don't care the distance, because I'll
either fly myself or fly commercially. So...
1. Location in the WORLD does not matter (why are we limiting it to the
States? I know why, because of numbers, but, hey, maybe every 5th such
meeting goes international.).
2. Attractions besides RV-10's does matter.
3. Time of year does matter.
4. Major airport for those not flying or too far away does matter.
5. Ability to camp? Yes, I'd say does matter.
6. Some form of organizing committee? I'd say "probably," so the local
person doesn't get overwhelmed (we had a simple dinner for Oregon RV-10
builders and it still took time to get the message out and the dinner
coordinated. This other would be more involved, especially as things grow.)
Anything else?
John J
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Lauritsen -
Work
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Lauritsen - Work"
--> <mike@cleavelandtool.com>
I guess I will chime in with some opinions since I spend a fair amount of
time at Fly-Ins.
I like the idea of centrally located if people want it to be a growing
organized event. It is hard enough to organize something year to year in a
fixed location, alternating E&W would be very difficult. If the object is
to fly somewhere different each year and congregate as a group and then be a
tourist for a few days (like many of the car guys do) that would be fun too.
If a fixed location is decided on it should be within an hours drive from a
major airport for those that want to get there on the airline. How Oshkosh
made it past this is perplexing to me, but the other major Regional EAA
shows fit this pattern. There will be lots of flying RV-10 coming up, but
it seems that the building stage guys would be very interested in this type
of thing also.
I would like to see it in February somewhere in the South where the North
half of us could fly down and thaw out for a couple of days. Rather than
jam it in with all the rest of the spring/summer fly-ins.
.02
Mike Lauritsen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:36 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
--> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for those of us with
an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as
Wright Brothers historical sites. Several handy airports . . .
TDT
40025
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give an example of
a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for the families to
entice people. I also looked at the map that was put together for those that
were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went back out to Frapper, where I should
have gone in the first place, it looks like the TN/ KY border is central to
the 200 hits on the map, but what is there to draw the pilots and families?
Maybe as suggested an east/west alternating years, or ??
I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in meeting the
RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support the effort, no
matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would have draw for
families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a huge draw as well,
but they do not have an airport within walking distance.
Just my .02 as usual
Dan
40269 (N289DT)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but for a
larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than Ohio....so that
we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas,
Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted
East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great.
Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but the
most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as possible for a
weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long weekend to do.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in
Sandusky,
> Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if
> you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge
> roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is
> www.cedarpoint.com
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>
> OK, where is Cedar Point?
>
> Rene' Felker
> 40322
> N423CF
> Fuselage/finish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
Daniel
> R.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central
> location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and
a
> full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more
> importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We
> could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
organizing
> it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there
> should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough
allot
> of people could also drive in.
> I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground
> support.
> Let me know
> Dan
> 40269 (N289DT)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> RV-10 Fly-In
> I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get
> 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just
> read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the factory
> for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that once we
> pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to make a US
> Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by Ray down in Kansas or
> something...but would be nice to have it by some great family
> attraction place. Just thinking ahead to next spring...maybe the
> May/June timeframe to fill that gap between SNF and OSH.
>
> Having a blast!
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: <jim@combsfive.com>
One additional point. Having it in different locations and or times would allow
those who are still building to travel by airline or car to see finished airplanes.
Not everyone can get to Sun-N-Fun or Oshkosh.
Jim Combs
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From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
Mike has several good points. I'd like to be included, even though I'm not
finished, and I'd like it not to be in the busy time of year. Speaking of
the Midwest and twisters, hail, and other nasty stuff, we also might want it
during the time of year that corresponds to relatively good weather, if
there is such a thing. New England in the Fall comes to mind. Course, then
the kids are in school.
I don't care if it's moved each year. In fact I think that is best. We
could spend time discussing the next 5 locations, set those, then add one
location per year beyond that. We need to have the ability for a person to
fly there commercially and drive for not more than a couple hours to get to
the location. It should have an attraction for families and the attraction
does not have to about planes. I don't care the distance, because I'll
either fly myself or fly commercially. So...
1. Location in the WORLD does not matter (why are we limiting it to the
States? I know why, because of numbers, but, hey, maybe every 5th such
meeting goes international.).
2. Attractions besides RV-10's does matter.
3. Time of year does matter.
4. Major airport for those not flying or too far away does matter.
5. Ability to camp? Yes, I'd say does matter.
6. Some form of organizing committee? I'd say "probably," so the local
person doesn't get overwhelmed (we had a simple dinner for Oregon RV-10
builders and it still took time to get the message out and the dinner
coordinated. This other would be more involved, especially as things grow.)
Anything else?
John J
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Lauritsen -
Work
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Lauritsen - Work"
--> <mike@cleavelandtool.com>
I guess I will chime in with some opinions since I spend a fair amount of
time at Fly-Ins.
I like the idea of centrally located if people want it to be a growing
organized event. It is hard enough to organize something year to year in a
fixed location, alternating E&W would be very difficult. If the object is
to fly somewhere different each year and congregate as a group and then be a
tourist for a few days (like many of the car guys do) that would be fun too.
If a fixed location is decided on it should be within an hours drive from a
major airport for those that want to get there on the airline. How Oshkosh
made it past this is perplexing to me, but the other major Regional EAA
shows fit this pattern. There will be lots of flying RV-10 coming up, but
it seems that the building stage guys would be very interested in this type
of thing also.
I would like to see it in February somewhere in the South where the North
half of us could fly down and thaw out for a couple of days. Rather than
jam it in with all the rest of the spring/summer fly-ins.
.02
Mike Lauritsen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
Dawson-Townsend
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:36 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
--> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for those of us with
an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as
Wright Brothers historical sites. Several handy airports . . .
TDT
40025
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give an example of
a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for the families to
entice people. I also looked at the map that was put together for those that
were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went back out to Frapper, where I should
have gone in the first place, it looks like the TN/ KY border is central to
the 200 hits on the map, but what is there to draw the pilots and families?
Maybe as suggested an east/west alternating years, or ??
I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in meeting the
RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support the effort, no
matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would have draw for
families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a huge draw as well,
but they do not have an airport within walking distance.
Just my .02 as usual
Dan
40269 (N289DT)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but for a
larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than Ohio....so that
we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas,
Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted
East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great.
Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but the
most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as possible for a
weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long weekend to do.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in
Sandusky,
> Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if
> you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge
> roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is
> www.cedarpoint.com
>
> Dan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>
> OK, where is Cedar Point?
>
> Rene' Felker
> 40322
> N423CF
> Fuselage/finish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
Daniel
> R.
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central
> location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and
a
> full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more
> importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We
> could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
organizing
> it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there
> should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough
allot
> of people could also drive in.
> I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground
> support.
> Let me know
> Dan
> 40269 (N289DT)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> RV-10 Fly-In
> I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get
> 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just
> read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the factory
> for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that once we
> pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to make a US
> Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by Ray down in Kansas or
> something...but would be nice to have it by some great family
> attraction place. Just thinking ahead to next spring...maybe the
> May/June timeframe to fill that gap between SNF and OSH.
>
> Having a blast!
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Man, this discussion has really blown up!
More below...
John Jessen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
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> I don't care if it's moved each year. In fact I think that is best. We
> could spend time discussing the next 5 locations, set those, then add one
> location per year beyond that. We need to have the ability for a person to
> fly there commercially and drive for not more than a couple hours to get to
> the location. It should have an attraction for families and the attraction
> does not have to about planes. I don't care the distance, because I'll
> either fly myself or fly commercially. So...
>
First, I really don't think we're ready to plan 5 year's worth of
fly-ins. Second, the goal was to have a fly-in....not a meeting.
We have OSH if someone wants to just meet other people. OF COURSE
everyone would be welcome, but this "event" is just something
to get people to fly their RV-10's somewhere for a couple days,
and get together. We don't need another Sun-N-Fun or OSH.
> 1. Location in the WORLD does not matter (why are we limiting it to the
> States? I know why, because of numbers, but, hey, maybe every 5th such
> meeting goes international.).
International?? Sure, there can be one on every continent.
But, if this is a fly-in, how many people want to fly from
Texas to South Africa? We're really blowing this into something
unmanageble. Let the people from the various regions set up
various events. We started this one talking about North America.
Everyone's welcome, but suddenly going international isn't going to
help effectively move our little fly-in forward.
> 2. Attractions besides RV-10's does matter.
Absolutely, IF the timeline is long. Originally I was thinking
of something like fly in on Friday afternoon through Saturday
morning....depending on how far away you are or motivated you are.
Then meet people for Saturday day and evening, and fly home Sunday.
Personally, I wouldn't show up for more than a day and a half.
The thing about the RV-10 is, I can even fly to San Diego, CA
from Wisconsin in 12 hours.....so a centralized fly-in
would be easily accessible in a day in the -10 if weather
cooperated. Vic made it to Atlanta from OSH in 4.5 hours.
I can fly to central Florida in 7. If we really had to have
it be East and West separately, then so be it, but a
central one really should be do able. And I wouldn't worry
quite so much about the family's activities on a huge scale
if it were just a 24 hour period. It's when we stretch it to
2 or 3 days that I have to worry a lot about that.
> 3. Time of year does matter.
Personally, I'd avoid any time anywhere near OSH, and any
major holiday's. And personally I'd try to make it in
as comfortable and calm a time of year as possible.
> 4. Major airport for those not flying or too far away does matter.
> 5. Ability to camp? Yes, I'd say does matter.
> 6. Some form of organizing committee? I'd say "probably," so the local
> person doesn't get overwhelmed (we had a simple dinner for Oregon RV-10
> builders and it still took time to get the message out and the dinner
> coordinated. This other would be more involved, especially as things grow.)
>
At any rate, I see a lot of people commented that centralized
would be good. I'm sure with creativity we could find a good
place. But I'd really caution over trying to make this
something huge as my gut feeling is we'd have a very hard
time getting huge droves of -10's to show for an overblown
and complex event. Look at OSH....there were 37-41 flying,
but only 11 showed up...and that show has probably nearly
every reason for a builder to be excited to fly there.
Pancakes in the a.m., Burgers and Dogs at noon, and a dinner in
the evening, anyone? ;)
Tim
>
> Anything else?
>
> John J
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Lauritsen -
> Work
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:51 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Lauritsen - Work"
> --> <mike@cleavelandtool.com>
>
> I guess I will chime in with some opinions since I spend a fair amount of
> time at Fly-Ins.
>
> I like the idea of centrally located if people want it to be a growing
> organized event. It is hard enough to organize something year to year in a
> fixed location, alternating E&W would be very difficult. If the object is
> to fly somewhere different each year and congregate as a group and then be a
> tourist for a few days (like many of the car guys do) that would be fun too.
>
> If a fixed location is decided on it should be within an hours drive from a
> major airport for those that want to get there on the airline. How Oshkosh
> made it past this is perplexing to me, but the other major Regional EAA
> shows fit this pattern. There will be lots of flying RV-10 coming up, but
> it seems that the building stage guys would be very interested in this type
> of thing also.
>
> I would like to see it in February somewhere in the South where the North
> half of us could fly down and thaw out for a couple of days. Rather than
> jam it in with all the rest of the spring/summer fly-ins.
>
> .02
> Mike Lauritsen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Dawson-Townsend
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:36 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
> --> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for those of us with
> an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as
> Wright Brothers historical sites. Several handy airports . . .
>
> TDT
> 40025
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:21 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give an example of
> a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for the families to
> entice people. I also looked at the map that was put together for those that
> were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went back out to Frapper, where I should
> have gone in the first place, it looks like the TN/ KY border is central to
> the 200 hits on the map, but what is there to draw the pilots and families?
> Maybe as suggested an east/west alternating years, or ??
> I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in meeting the
> RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
> My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support the effort, no
> matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would have draw for
> families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a huge draw as well,
> but they do not have an airport within walking distance.
> Just my .02 as usual
> Dan
> 40269 (N289DT)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but for a
> larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than Ohio....so that
> we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas,
> Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted
> East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great.
> Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but the
> most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as possible for a
> weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long weekend to do.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>> That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in
> Sandusky,
>> Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if
>> you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge
>> roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is
>> www.cedarpoint.com
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>>
>> OK, where is Cedar Point?
>>
>> Rene' Felker
>> 40322
>> N423CF
>> Fuselage/finish
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
> Daniel
>> R.
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
>> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>>
>> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central
>> location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and
> a
>> full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more
>> importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We
>> could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
> organizing
>> it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there
>> should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough
> allot
>> of people could also drive in.
>> I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground
>> support.
>> Let me know
>> Dan
>> 40269 (N289DT)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> RV-10 Fly-In
>> I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get
>> 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just
>> read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the factory
>> for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that once we
>> pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to make a US
>> Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by Ray down in Kansas or
>> something...but would be nice to have it by some great family
>> attraction place. Just thinking ahead to next spring...maybe the
>> May/June timeframe to fill that gap between SNF and OSH.
>>
>> Having a blast!
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
I know, let's have the first gathering at Tim's house!
Tim, what's your lat/lon?
TDT
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Man, this discussion has really blown up!
More below...
John Jessen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> I don't care if it's moved each year. In fact I think that is best.
We
> could spend time discussing the next 5 locations, set those, then add
one
> location per year beyond that. We need to have the ability for a
person to
> fly there commercially and drive for not more than a couple hours to
get to
> the location. It should have an attraction for families and the
attraction
> does not have to about planes. I don't care the distance, because
I'll
> either fly myself or fly commercially. So...
>
First, I really don't think we're ready to plan 5 year's worth of
fly-ins. Second, the goal was to have a fly-in....not a meeting.
We have OSH if someone wants to just meet other people. OF COURSE
everyone would be welcome, but this "event" is just something
to get people to fly their RV-10's somewhere for a couple days,
and get together. We don't need another Sun-N-Fun or OSH.
> 1. Location in the WORLD does not matter (why are we limiting it to
the
> States? I know why, because of numbers, but, hey, maybe every 5th
such
> meeting goes international.).
International?? Sure, there can be one on every continent.
But, if this is a fly-in, how many people want to fly from
Texas to South Africa? We're really blowing this into something
unmanageble. Let the people from the various regions set up
various events. We started this one talking about North America.
Everyone's welcome, but suddenly going international isn't going to
help effectively move our little fly-in forward.
> 2. Attractions besides RV-10's does matter.
Absolutely, IF the timeline is long. Originally I was thinking
of something like fly in on Friday afternoon through Saturday
morning....depending on how far away you are or motivated you are.
Then meet people for Saturday day and evening, and fly home Sunday.
Personally, I wouldn't show up for more than a day and a half.
The thing about the RV-10 is, I can even fly to San Diego, CA
from Wisconsin in 12 hours.....so a centralized fly-in
would be easily accessible in a day in the -10 if weather
cooperated. Vic made it to Atlanta from OSH in 4.5 hours.
I can fly to central Florida in 7. If we really had to have
it be East and West separately, then so be it, but a
central one really should be do able. And I wouldn't worry
quite so much about the family's activities on a huge scale
if it were just a 24 hour period. It's when we stretch it to
2 or 3 days that I have to worry a lot about that.
> 3. Time of year does matter.
Personally, I'd avoid any time anywhere near OSH, and any
major holiday's. And personally I'd try to make it in
as comfortable and calm a time of year as possible.
> 4. Major airport for those not flying or too far away does matter.
> 5. Ability to camp? Yes, I'd say does matter.
> 6. Some form of organizing committee? I'd say "probably," so the
local
> person doesn't get overwhelmed (we had a simple dinner for Oregon
RV-10
> builders and it still took time to get the message out and the dinner
> coordinated. This other would be more involved, especially as things
grow.)
>
At any rate, I see a lot of people commented that centralized
would be good. I'm sure with creativity we could find a good
place. But I'd really caution over trying to make this
something huge as my gut feeling is we'd have a very hard
time getting huge droves of -10's to show for an overblown
and complex event. Look at OSH....there were 37-41 flying,
but only 11 showed up...and that show has probably nearly
every reason for a builder to be excited to fly there.
Pancakes in the a.m., Burgers and Dogs at noon, and a dinner in
the evening, anyone? ;)
Tim
>
> Anything else?
>
> John J
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Lauritsen -
> Work
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:51 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Lauritsen - Work"
> --> <mike@cleavelandtool.com>
>
> I guess I will chime in with some opinions since I spend a fair amount
of
> time at Fly-Ins.
>
> I like the idea of centrally located if people want it to be a growing
> organized event. It is hard enough to organize something year to year
in a
> fixed location, alternating E&W would be very difficult. If the
object is
> to fly somewhere different each year and congregate as a group and
then be a
> tourist for a few days (like many of the car guys do) that would be
fun too.
>
> If a fixed location is decided on it should be within an hours drive
from a
> major airport for those that want to get there on the airline. How
Oshkosh
> made it past this is perplexing to me, but the other major Regional
EAA
> shows fit this pattern. There will be lots of flying RV-10 coming up,
but
> it seems that the building stage guys would be very interested in this
type
> of thing also.
>
> I would like to see it in February somewhere in the South where the
North
> half of us could fly down and thaw out for a couple of days. Rather
than
> jam it in with all the rest of the spring/summer fly-ins.
>
> .02
> Mike Lauritsen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Dawson-Townsend
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:36 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
> --> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for those of us
with
> an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as
> Wright Brothers historical sites. Several handy airports . . .
>
> TDT
> 40025
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
Daniel R.
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:21 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give an
example of
> a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for the
families to
> entice people. I also looked at the map that was put together for
those that
> were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went back out to Frapper, where I
should
> have gone in the first place, it looks like the TN/ KY border is
central to
> the 200 hits on the map, but what is there to draw the pilots and
families?
> Maybe as suggested an east/west alternating years, or ??
> I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in meeting
the
> RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
> My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support the
effort, no
> matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would have draw
for
> families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a huge draw as
well,
> but they do not have an airport within walking distance.
> Just my .02 as usual
> Dan
> 40269 (N289DT)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but
for a
> larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than
Ohio....so that
> we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas,
> Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted
> East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great.
> Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something,
but the
> most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as possible
for a
> weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long weekend to
do.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>> That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in
> Sandusky,
>> Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if
>> you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the
huge
>> roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is
>> www.cedarpoint.com
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Felker
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>>
>> OK, where is Cedar Point?
>>
>> Rene' Felker
>> 40322
>> N423CF
>> Fuselage/finish
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
> Daniel
>> R.
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
>> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>>
>> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central
>> location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and
> a
>> full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more
>> importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We
>> could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
> organizing
>> it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there
>> should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough
> allot
>> of people could also drive in.
>> I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground
>> support.
>> Let me know
>> Dan
>> 40269 (N289DT)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> RV-10 Fly-In
>> I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get
>> 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just
>> read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the
factory
>> for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that once we
>> pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to make a US
>> Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by Ray down in Kansas
or
>> something...but would be nice to have it by some great family
>> attraction place. Just thinking ahead to next spring...maybe the
>> May/June timeframe to fill that gap between SNF and OSH.
>>
>> Having a blast!
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Nah, you wouldn't want it here, except for the $3.60/gal
fuel.
Right now I'm wishing I was at N 22.75 degrees / W 77.90 degrees.
I think I need a vacation. BTW: That would make a great
RV-10 destination, if we turned it into a week-long.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Tim Dawson-Townsend wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> I know, let's have the first gathering at Tim's house!
>
> Tim, what's your lat/lon?
>
> TDT
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | has anyone had this problem? |
My left rudder pedal rubs against the tunnel skin and is starting to
split the aluminum. The attachment bolt that connects the rudder
cable on the passenger side is tight against the tunnel skin.
I would appreciate you email if you have the same problem and any
solution that you have come up with. I am at the head scratching
stage right now.
Rob Kermanj
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| Subject: | RE: RV-10 gathering |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
22.75,-77.9 => Cuba? Hmmm, google maps actually shows 7 airports in
Cuba! Apparently, Cuba is getting cheap oil from buddy and fellow
US-hater Venezuela, so maybe avgas is super cheap there.
Curiosity got the better of me. Here are some stats run on Tim's OSH
list. This is only for those listing cities in the western hemisphere.
You can see the map here http://www.jline.com/app/rvbuilders/map/
The green arrow represents the avg(lat) avg(long) coordinates below:
avg(latitude) avg(longitude)
38.468328785714 -95.406118904762
64 are south of the avg(lat)
62 are north of the avg(lat)
71 are east of the avg(long)
55 are west of the avg(long)
Looking at my map, the town closest to avg(lat), avg(long) is
Williamsburg, KS. Ray is the closest builder in Kansas City.
Unfortunately, Williamsburg, KS is 1900 sm road miles away from me. :(
For the next few years, it'll be a drive-in for me.
Jae
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Nah, you wouldn't want it here, except for the $3.60/gal
fuel.
Right now I'm wishing I was at N 22.75 degrees / W 77.90 degrees.
I think I need a vacation. BTW: That would make a great
RV-10 destination, if we turned it into a week-long.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | RE: RV-10 gathering |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
You could also consider tying into the "lesser" EAA Flyins, Arlington
and Copperstate...both within 30 min drive of airline airport, both
with plenty of vendors, etc.
Might not have the same entertainment for family, although Arizona is
pretty nice at the end of October, and Arlington is pretty nice in the
summer(when it isn't raining).
Quoting John Jessen <jjessen@rcn.com>:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> Mike has several good points. I'd like to be included, even though I'm not
> finished, and I'd like it not to be in the busy time of year. Speaking of
> the Midwest and twisters, hail, and other nasty stuff, we also might want it
> during the time of year that corresponds to relatively good weather, if
> there is such a thing. New England in the Fall comes to mind. Course, then
> the kids are in school.
>
> I don't care if it's moved each year. In fact I think that is best. We
> could spend time discussing the next 5 locations, set those, then add one
> location per year beyond that. We need to have the ability for a person to
> fly there commercially and drive for not more than a couple hours to get to
> the location. It should have an attraction for families and the attraction
> does not have to about planes. I don't care the distance, because I'll
> either fly myself or fly commercially. So...
>
> 1. Location in the WORLD does not matter (why are we limiting it to the
> States? I know why, because of numbers, but, hey, maybe every 5th such
> meeting goes international.).
> 2. Attractions besides RV-10's does matter.
> 3. Time of year does matter.
> 4. Major airport for those not flying or too far away does matter.
> 5. Ability to camp? Yes, I'd say does matter.
> 6. Some form of organizing committee? I'd say "probably," so the local
> person doesn't get overwhelmed (we had a simple dinner for Oregon RV-10
> builders and it still took time to get the message out and the dinner
> coordinated. This other would be more involved, especially as things grow.)
>
>
> Anything else?
>
> John J
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Lauritsen -
> Work
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:51 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Lauritsen - Work"
> --> <mike@cleavelandtool.com>
>
> I guess I will chime in with some opinions since I spend a fair amount of
> time at Fly-Ins.
>
> I like the idea of centrally located if people want it to be a growing
> organized event. It is hard enough to organize something year to year in a
> fixed location, alternating E&W would be very difficult. If the object is
> to fly somewhere different each year and congregate as a group and then be a
> tourist for a few days (like many of the car guys do) that would be fun too.
>
> If a fixed location is decided on it should be within an hours drive from a
> major airport for those that want to get there on the airline. How Oshkosh
> made it past this is perplexing to me, but the other major Regional EAA
> shows fit this pattern. There will be lots of flying RV-10 coming up, but
> it seems that the building stage guys would be very interested in this type
> of thing also.
>
> I would like to see it in February somewhere in the South where the North
> half of us could fly down and thaw out for a couple of days. Rather than
> jam it in with all the rest of the spring/summer fly-ins.
>
> .02
> Mike Lauritsen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Dawson-Townsend
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:36 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
> --> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for those of us with
> an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as
> Wright Brothers historical sites. Several handy airports . . .
>
> TDT
> 40025
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:21 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give an example of
> a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for the families to
> entice people. I also looked at the map that was put together for those that
> were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went back out to Frapper, where I should
> have gone in the first place, it looks like the TN/ KY border is central to
> the 200 hits on the map, but what is there to draw the pilots and families?
> Maybe as suggested an east/west alternating years, or ??
> I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in meeting the
> RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
> My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support the effort, no
> matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would have draw for
> families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a huge draw as well,
> but they do not have an airport within walking distance.
> Just my .02 as usual
> Dan
> 40269 (N289DT)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but for a
> larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than Ohio....so that
> we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas,
> Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted
> East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great.
> Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something, but the
> most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as possible for a
> weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long weekend to do.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>>
>> That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in
> Sandusky,
>> Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if
>> you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge
>> roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is
>> www.cedarpoint.com
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>>
>> OK, where is Cedar Point?
>>
>> Rene' Felker
>> 40322
>> N423CF
>> Fuselage/finish
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
> Daniel
>> R.
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
>> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>>
>> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central
>> location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and
> a
>> full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more
>> importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We
>> could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
> organizing
>> it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there
>> should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough
> allot
>> of people could also drive in.
>> I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground
>> support.
>> Let me know
>> Dan
>> 40269 (N289DT)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> RV-10 Fly-In
>> I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get
>> 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just
>> read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the factory
>> for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that once we
>> pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to make a US
>> Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by Ray down in Kansas or
>> something...but would be nice to have it by some great family
>> attraction place. Just thinking ahead to next spring...maybe the
>> May/June timeframe to fill that gap between SNF and OSH.
>>
>> Having a blast!
>>
>>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
It's not blown up, Tim, just a wrinkle that would allow those not yet
flying, and there will be plenty of those over the next several years, to be
able to come visit. Many cannot get to one of the fly-ins, as I could not
this year. Many do not want to go to an overblown fly-in such as OSH.
Some, not all, might want to visit an RV-10 gathering.
If all you want are some buds to fly their -10s to a location not far from
you for a weekend get together, fine. That's cool. It's nice to be in the
middle of the country. But a purposeful RV-10 gathering, both of builders
and flyers, wouldn't be all that bad. It's still a weekend event. Those
who can make it, do. Those who want to go to OSH or other fly-ins will.
Those who want to go to Van's Homecoming will. At present there is no
official RV-10 organization like there is for Cessna or Cirrus or Bonanza,
and there doesn't have to be, but there could certainly be an event similar
to what these organizations put on that can be inclusive. And, I think that
last word is the whole idea of my post.
Have a great time at the "flying RV-10" gathering. I recommend autumn
anywhere in the country.
John J
Tailcone
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Man, this discussion has really blown up!
More below...
John Jessen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> I don't care if it's moved each year. In fact I think that is best.
> We could spend time discussing the next 5 locations, set those, then
> add one location per year beyond that. We need to have the ability
> for a person to fly there commercially and drive for not more than a
> couple hours to get to the location. It should have an attraction for
> families and the attraction does not have to about planes. I don't
> care the distance, because I'll either fly myself or fly commercially.
So...
>
First, I really don't think we're ready to plan 5 year's worth of
fly-ins. Second, the goal was to have a fly-in....not a meeting.
We have OSH if someone wants to just meet other people. OF COURSE everyone
would be welcome, but this "event" is just something to get people to fly
their RV-10's somewhere for a couple days, and get together. We don't need
another Sun-N-Fun or OSH.
> 1. Location in the WORLD does not matter (why are we limiting it to
> the States? I know why, because of numbers, but, hey, maybe every 5th
> such meeting goes international.).
International?? Sure, there can be one on every continent.
But, if this is a fly-in, how many people want to fly from Texas to South
Africa? We're really blowing this into something
unmanageble. Let the people from the various regions set up
various events. We started this one talking about North America.
Everyone's welcome, but suddenly going international isn't going to help
effectively move our little fly-in forward.
> 2. Attractions besides RV-10's does matter.
Absolutely, IF the timeline is long. Originally I was thinking of something
like fly in on Friday afternoon through Saturday morning....depending on how
far away you are or motivated you are.
Then meet people for Saturday day and evening, and fly home Sunday.
Personally, I wouldn't show up for more than a day and a half.
The thing about the RV-10 is, I can even fly to San Diego, CA from Wisconsin
in 12 hours.....so a centralized fly-in would be easily accessible in a day
in the -10 if weather cooperated. Vic made it to Atlanta from OSH in 4.5
hours.
I can fly to central Florida in 7. If we really had to have
it be East and West separately, then so be it, but a
central one really should be do able. And I wouldn't worry
quite so much about the family's activities on a huge scale if it were just
a 24 hour period. It's when we stretch it to
2 or 3 days that I have to worry a lot about that.
> 3. Time of year does matter.
Personally, I'd avoid any time anywhere near OSH, and any major holiday's.
And personally I'd try to make it in as comfortable and calm a time of year
as possible.
> 4. Major airport for those not flying or too far away does matter.
> 5. Ability to camp? Yes, I'd say does matter.
> 6. Some form of organizing committee? I'd say "probably," so the
> local person doesn't get overwhelmed (we had a simple dinner for
> Oregon RV-10 builders and it still took time to get the message out
> and the dinner coordinated. This other would be more involved,
> especially as things grow.)
>
At any rate, I see a lot of people commented that centralized would be good.
I'm sure with creativity we could find a good place. But I'd really caution
over trying to make this something huge as my gut feeling is we'd have a
very hard time getting huge droves of -10's to show for an overblown
and complex event. Look at OSH....there were 37-41 flying,
but only 11 showed up...and that show has probably nearly every reason for a
builder to be excited to fly there.
Pancakes in the a.m., Burgers and Dogs at noon, and a dinner in the evening,
anyone? ;)
Tim
>
> Anything else?
>
> John J
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
> Lauritsen - Work
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:51 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Lauritsen - Work"
> --> <mike@cleavelandtool.com>
>
> I guess I will chime in with some opinions since I spend a fair amount
> of time at Fly-Ins.
>
> I like the idea of centrally located if people want it to be a growing
> organized event. It is hard enough to organize something year to year
> in a fixed location, alternating E&W would be very difficult. If the
> object is to fly somewhere different each year and congregate as a
> group and then be a tourist for a few days (like many of the car guys do)
that would be fun too.
>
> If a fixed location is decided on it should be within an hours drive
> from a major airport for those that want to get there on the airline.
> How Oshkosh made it past this is perplexing to me, but the other major
> Regional EAA shows fit this pattern. There will be lots of flying
> RV-10 coming up, but it seems that the building stage guys would be
> very interested in this type of thing also.
>
> I would like to see it in February somewhere in the South where the
> North half of us could fly down and thaw out for a couple of days.
> Rather than jam it in with all the rest of the spring/summer fly-ins.
>
> .02
> Mike Lauritsen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim
> Dawson-Townsend
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:36 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
> --> <Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
> Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for those of us
> with an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as
> Wright Brothers historical sites. Several handy airports . . .
>
> TDT
> 40025
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
R.
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:21 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
> I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give an
> example of a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for
> the families to entice people. I also looked at the map that was put
> together for those that were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went back
> out to Frapper, where I should have gone in the first place, it looks
> like the TN/ KY border is central to the 200 hits on the map, but what is
there to draw the pilots and families?
> Maybe as suggested an east/west alternating years, or ??
> I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in meeting
> the RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
> My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support the
> effort, no matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would
> have draw for families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is
> a huge draw as well, but they do not have an airport within walking
distance.
> Just my .02 as usual
> Dan
> 40269 (N289DT)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but
> for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than
> Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas,
> Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted
> East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great.
> Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something,
> but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout as
> possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require a long
weekend to do.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>> That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in
> Sandusky,
>> Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if
>> you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the
>> huge roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website
>> is www.cedarpoint.com
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
>> Felker
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
>>
>> OK, where is Cedar Point?
>>
>> Rene' Felker
>> 40322
>> N423CF
>> Fuselage/finish
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
> Daniel
>> R.
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
>> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>>
>> I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central
>> location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and
> a
>> full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more
>> importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We
>> could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
> organizing
>> it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there
>> should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough
> allot
>> of people could also drive in.
>> I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground
>> support.
>> Let me know
>> Dan
>> 40269 (N289DT)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>
>> RV-10 Fly-In
>> I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get
>> 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just
>> read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the
>> factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that
>> once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers to
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>> in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it by some great
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So much for Oregon.
John
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:49 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
That wouldn't be bad if you can plan it in the one month period where it
isn't raining or over 100. :D
Michael Sausen
Roasting in the Ft Worth area
Do Not Archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Ritter"
How about Lockhart, TX the Bar-B-Que capital of the world for those with
a southwesterly view? Luling, TX, the watermelon captial of the world,
is only ten miles away and Austin, TX, the home of the National Football
Champion Texas Longhorns, is only 30 miles to the north.
Mark
Do not archive
________________________________
From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:35:45 -0400
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
<Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
>Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for
those of us
>with an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as
well as
>Wright Brothers historical sites. Several handy airports . .
.
>
>TDT
>40025
>Do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]
<mailto:%5bmailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com%5d> On Behalf Of
Lloyd, Daniel
>R.
>Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:21 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and
more)
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
><LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
>I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give
an example
>of a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for
the
>families to entice people. I also looked at the map that was
put
>together for those that were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went
back out
>to Frapper, where I should have gone in the first place, it
looks like
>the TN/ KY border is central to the 200 hits on the map, but
what is
>there to draw the pilots and families? Maybe as suggested an
east/west
>alternating years, or ??
>I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in
meeting
>the RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
>My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support
the effort,
>no matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would
have draw
>for families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a
huge draw
>as well, but they do not have an airport within walking
distance.
>Just my .02 as usual
>Dan
>40269 (N289DT)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]
<mailto:%5bmailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com%5d> On Behalf Of
Tim Olson
>Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and
more)
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
>Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks
nice, but
>for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized
than
>Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California,
Vegas,
>Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too
shifted
>East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works
great.
>Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on
something,
>but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a
turnout
>as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't
require
>a long weekend to do.
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
><LloydDR@wernerco.com>
> >
> > That probably would have been pertinent information. It is
in
>Sandusky,
> > Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the
identifier and if
> > you go to google and look at the satellite images you can
see the huge
> > roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air.
Website is
> > www.cedarpoint.com
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]
<mailto:%5bmailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com%5d> On Behalf Of
Rene Felker
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and
more)
> >
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker"
<rene@felker.com>
> >
> > OK, where is Cedar Point?
> >
> > Rene' Felker
> > 40322
> > N423CF
> > Fuselage/finish
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]
<mailto:%5bmailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com%5d> On Behalf Of
Lloyd,
>Daniel
> > R.
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and
more)
> >
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> > <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
> >
> > I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a
central
> > location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller
coasters, and
>a
> > full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels,
and more
> > importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle
service. We
> > could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
>organizing
> > it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next
year there
> > should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central
enough
>allot
> > of people could also drive in.
> > I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the
required ground
> > support.
> > Let me know
> > Dan
> > 40269 (N289DT)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]
<mailto:%5bmailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com%5d> On Behalf Of
Tim Olson
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
> >
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had
to take the
> > time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's
trip.
> > It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the
first real
> > test of how everything would function in such conditions.
It really
> > gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10.
> >
> > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html
> >
> > Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now
accumulated
> > 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's
just
> > a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like
you
> > did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues.
> > I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50
oil too,
> > and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up
for
> > oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits.
> > Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/
> >
> > Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting
to
> > flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a
production
> > version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my
> > Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I
have
> > s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being
> > used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well,
> > and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude
with
> > GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work
> > with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I
had
> > a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault.
> > I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but
recently
> > had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or
mixutre
> > after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I
screwed it all
> > up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or
richen
> > it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire
and
> > then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be
ready
> > to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer
on the
> > mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it
right
> > the first time. ;)
> >
> > RV-10 Fly-In
> > I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we
get
> > 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next
year. I just
> > read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to
the
> > factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd
think that
> > once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient
numbers
> > to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe
by
> > Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have
it
> > by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead
> > to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that
> > gap between SNF and
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| Subject: | Arc protection diodes |
I built up my own trim/flap relay board for my 8A, no diodes. The current
draw is too small.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (260 hrs)
RV-10 (tail cone)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:07 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Arc protection diodes
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick
Anyone else who built their own trim/relay board know the value for the
diode rectifiers used to protect the relay and trim switches from arcing the
contacts? Or any on who used the Aircraft Extras or Ray Allen relay decks
know what value they put in their decks?
I suspect a 1 amp by 50 volt should do. Circut draws less than an amp.
Rick S.
40185
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| Subject: | Re: has anyone had this problem? |
Try the West Marine Cable Guides. The model number is 107656 and are
5/16th size. I ordered three of them and cut the third one in half and
ran the extra halves back past the baggage compartment bulkhead past the
battery as well. It was a little extra work and I used Plastic clamps in
the back obtained from the local Lowes store and pop riveted them to the
side of the tunnel.
Good Luck,
Russ Daves
N710RV Flying
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Kermanj
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 12:58 PM
Subject: RV10-List: has anyone had this problem?
My left rudder pedal rubs against the tunnel skin and is starting to
split the aluminum. The attachment bolt that connects the rudder cable
on the passenger side is tight against the tunnel skin.
I would appreciate you email if you have the same problem and any
solution that you have come up with. I am at the head scratching stage
right now.
Rob Kermanj
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Rick..How about an MJ-4, you could use it to move or lift the plane.
I will probably just have to do it by hand..
Rene'
40322
N423CF
Fuselage/Finish
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
DOUGPFLYRV@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tug
I am thinking about putting a tow hitch on the front of my Toyota P.U.
Open to other suggestions
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Doug P
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| Subject: | RE: RV-10 gathering |
Or Ft. Worth, TX the bull shit capital of the world.
Bob K
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:43 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
How about Lockhart, TX the Bar-B-Que capital of the world for those with a
southwesterly view? Luling, TX, the watermelon captial of the world, is
only ten miles away and Austin, TX, the home of the National Football
Champion Texas Longhorns, is only 30 miles to the north.
Mark
Do not archive
_____
From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" <Tdawson@avidyne.com>
Subject: RV10-List: RE: RV-10 gathering
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Tim Dawson-Townsend"
<Tdawson@Avidyne.com>
>
>
>Someone suggested Dayton, OH, which is fairly central (for those of us
>with an eastward view) and has the great Air Force Museum, as well as
>Wright Brothers historical sites. Several handy airports . . .
>
>TDT
>40025
>Do not archive
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
>R.
>Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:21 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
><LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
>I agree, the only reason I suggested the location was to give an example
>of a big draw place, that had allot of amenities, and fun for the
>families to entice people. I also looked at the map that was put
>together for those that were on the Osh Kosh list. When I went back out
>to Frapper, where I should have gone in the first place, it looks like
>the TN/ KY border is central to the 200 hits on the map, but what is
>there to draw the pilots and families? Maybe as suggested an east/west
>alternating years, or ??
>I personally do not care where it is, I am more interested in meeting
>the RV10 builders, and will attend where ever it is decided on.
>My point was, I think it is a great idea, and I will support the effort,
>no matter where, I was just throwing out an idea, that would have draw
>for families. For that matter, rat world on either coast is a huge draw
>as well, but they do not have an airport within walking distance.
>Just my .02 as usual
>Dan
>40269 (N289DT)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:54 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
>Not that I'd say No to this myself, because the place looks nice, but
>for a larger fly-in I was thinking something more centralized than
>Ohio....so that we'd get more of the gang from California, Vegas,
>Oregon, Utah, and such places. Ohio is just a little too shifted
>East for what I was thinking...but for me personally it works great.
>Anyone have any other ideas? Eventually we'll settle on something,
>but the most important part in my mind is getting as big a turnout
>as possible for a weekend event.....something that wouldn't require
>a long weekend to do.
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
><LloydDR@wernerco.com>
> >
> > That probably would have been pertinent information. It is in
>Sandusky,
> > Ohio, at the Western side of the state. KSKY is the identifier and if
> > you go to google and look at the satellite images you can see the huge
> > roller coasters, three of them over 200 feet in the air. Website is
> > www.cedarpoint.com
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:28 PM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
> >
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
> >
> > OK, where is Cedar Point?
> >
> > Rene' Felker
> > 40322
> > N423CF
> > Fuselage/finish
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd,
>Daniel
> > R.
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 10:04 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
> >
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R."
> > <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
> >
> > I like the idea of a flyin. What about Cedar Point for a central
> > location? It is a world class amusement park, 16 roller coasters, and
>a
> > full waterpark, fun for the family, has camping and hotels, and more
> > importantly has an airport across the street with shuttle service. We
> > could negotiate group rates and get it started. We can start
>organizing
> > it now, and see what the interest is, by June or July next year there
> > should be a fair number flying, and Cedar point is central enough
>allot
> > of people could also drive in.
> > I would be up for helping plan it, and organizing the required ground
> > support.
> > Let me know
> > Dan
> > 40269 (N289DT)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:26 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: First IFR Flight in the RV-10 (and more)
> >
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sorry I've been running behind since before OSH, but I had to take the
> > time to post this trip story and photos from this weekend's trip.
> > It was my first actual IMC/IFR time in the RV-10, and the first real
> > test of how everything would function in such conditions. It really
> > gave a good perspective on the utility of the RV-10.
> >
> > http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060807/index.html
> >
> > Also, in the past week I've passed the milestone and now accumulated
> > 106.4 nearly trouble-free hours in the RV-10. I know it's just
> > a 3-digit number, but passing 100 really makes you feel like you
> > did an acceptable job when you haven't had any major issues.
> > I now have switched at 100 hours to using Exxon Elite 20-50 oil too,
> > and can't wait to see how it performs. I'm going to sign up for
> > oil analysis on the Shellcare program: $70/10 test kits.
> > Tested by http://www.analystsinc.com/
> >
> > Other news: This week the production pinpoints are starting to
> > flow to the owners, and by late this week I'll have a production
> > version in for this weekend's flights. I have also sent my
> > Digiflight II VSGV back to TruTrak for reprogramming as I have
> > s/w version 2.11 which has some bugs, especially when being
> > used with my GNS480. That should be back this week as well,
> > and then I'll finish tuning the AP so it tracks altitude with
> > GPSV a little smoother. I can't wait to see how things work
> > with the refinements, as they're going very well as-is. I had
> > a couple of bad hot starts finally, but they were my fault.
> > I had been having perfect hot starts with the LSI, but recently
> > had 2 of them where I didn't give it enough throttle and/or mixutre
> > after it popped to keep it running. At that point, I screwed it all
> > up, not knowing if I needed to go back to idle cutoff, or richen
> > it and prime. In general, it looks like if I get it to fire and
> > then lose it, I should be going WOT, and idle cutoff, but be ready
> > to cut the throttle back immediately while also going richer on the
> > mixture once it fires. In short, it's better to get it right
> > the first time. ;)
> >
> > RV-10 Fly-In
> > I'm thinking maybe we should look at an RV-10 Fly-in once we get
> > 75 or 100 of these things in the air...planned for next year. I just
> > read last night that the cirrus owners group had a trip to the
> > factory for a fly-in and they managed 175 Cirrus's. I'd think that
> > once we pass 100 RV-10's, we should have some sufficient numbers
> > to make a US Centralized Fly-in a really fun thing. Maybe by
> > Ray down in Kansas or something...but would be nice to have it
> > by some great family attraction place. Just thinking ahead
> > to next spring...maybe the May/June timeframe to fill that
> > gap between SNF and
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I'm getting ready to attach the front fuselage skins and was wondering if I
should use Proseal at the firewall like I did on the bottom skin.
Thanks,
Sean Blair
#40225
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| Subject: | Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
So that "small nosewheel shimmy" I've mentioned for the past couple
of weeks....
Tonight I found that the old posts someone previously made on this
subject REALLY need to be not only investigated fully, but I
completely believe that basically EVERY RV-10 will have this
problem if you do not plan ahead and do something about it before it
happens to you.
Check out this Front Axle and Fork wear write-up:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20060809/index.html
If you read my write-up, you'll see that I previously even called
Van's after someone else had the problem, trying to proactively
"fix" the issue, even though I wasn't fully aware of exactly how
the problem manifested itself. What REALLY would be nice is if people
find things like this, post some pictures and an explanation.
A picture is worth 1000 words, and it makes it much easier to
understand. Had I known about this before, I would not be in this
position today. My front Fork is now worn with a groove, and my
temper is lit. Tomorrow I'll be calling again to find out if
there is already a "fix" that is finally publicly known...and then
I'll add it to the above page.
Additionally, this has prompted me to stay up a little extra tonight
and lay the groundwork for the "Maintenance Issue" section of the
RV-10 Tips page at:
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/index.html
Hopefully I can get some good input from others about things that
everyone really needs to watch for once they start flying. Lets
keep these planes in the air, and keep them safe.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Okay...another one. I plan to install LED position lighting. Any
recommendations? I'll be using a 12 volt system.
Is there a 12 volt LED strobe available? I see Whelen has one, but it's a
24 volt.
Thanks again,
Sean Blair
#40225
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| Subject: | Re: has anyone had this problem? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
When Randy had his inspection, one of the "Dings" I heard was the bolts
needed to have the nut on the outside of the pedals so the cotter pins
didn't snag your shoes. This puts the nut right next to the tunnel, of
course.
So, I tried to prepare by mounting the bolt that way. I found that mine
rubbed the tunnel. So, I prayed that nobody would say anything and
mounted my bolts with the rounded head towards the tunnel. After that,
I haven't had any rubbing.
If you get rubbing, even with that bolt flipped, then I'm wondering if
there isn't anything you can do with those nylon blocks on the longerons
up on top to shift the pedals slightly so that they are further from the
tunnel. I know what you mean, the pedals are close, but on mine they
don't touch anymore. I was unable to allow myself to keep the
carpeting on the tunnel in that area though....the gap wasn't big enough
and I didn't want the cable links hanging up on the carpet some day.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Rob Kermanj wrote:
> My left rudder pedal rubs against the tunnel skin and is starting to
> split the aluminum. The attachment bolt that connects the rudder cable
> on the passenger side is tight against the tunnel skin.
>
> I would appreciate you email if you have the same problem and any
> solution that you have come up with. I am at the head scratching stage
> right now.
>
> Rob Kermanj
>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Absolutely. Keep that CO out of the cabin.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Sean Blair wrote:
> Im getting ready to attach the front fuselage skins and was wondering
> if I should use Proseal at the firewall like I did on the bottom skin.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Sean Blair
>
> #40225
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Sean Blair" <seanblair@adelphia.net>
Thanks Tim...good luck with that nosewheel.
Sean
#40225
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Skins
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Absolutely. Keep that CO out of the cabin.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Sean Blair wrote:
> I'm getting ready to attach the front fuselage skins and was wondering
> if I should use Proseal at the firewall like I did on the bottom skin.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Sean Blair
>
> #40225
>
>
>
>
>
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Check out Jeff Bordelon's site: _http://www.jeffsrv-7a.com/LEDPROJECT.htm_
(http://www.jeffsrv-7a.com/LEDPROJECT.htm)
I think that these are very nice. I'm using these wingtip position lights,
tho I'm not sure what I'm using for the tail yet.
Steve Weinstock
40230
Okay..another one. I plan to install LED position lighting. Any
recommendations? I=99ll be using a 12 volt system.
Is there a 12 volt LED strobe available? I see Whelen has one, but it
=99s a
24 volt.
Thanks again,
Sean Blair
#40225
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| Subject: | Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10 |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Henkjan van der Zouw" <henkjan@zme.nl>
Hi Tim,
I did not like the construction of the front wheel bearing and made a
change even before putting my 10 on it's wheels because I had fear about
exactly what happened to your front wheel.
Van's provides two bushing made from thin wall stainless steel tubing
for mounting at the outside of the bearings only, this will not prevent
the bearing inner rings from rotating at the shaft, due to the heavy
seals my inner rings were rotating at the shaft, I didn't like that,
feared that the bushings would damage the fork, your experience proves
that.
Here's what I did, first I determined the distance between the bearing
inner rings, then I made an aliminium bushing on the lathe just a little
wider than the measured distance ( 0.1 to 0.2 mm) to give the bearings
just that little play that they need.
Then I made two aluminium bushings for the outside, dimensions just so
that the total of the two outside bushings, the two bearing inner rings
and the inside bushing are a little bit longer then the shaft, it all
clamps together during assembly.
I did not use the bushings supplied by Van's.
Now it's assembled it's a very rigid construction that allows the
bearings just to rotate at the point that they should as well as both
seals.
Need to say that the length of the bushing between the inner rings needs
to be measured for every wheel separately due to tolerances of the
wheels.
I can disassemble it again and post pictures if you want.
Henkjan van der Zouw
#40355, sorry, still building.........
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] Namens Tim Olson
Verzonden: donderdag 10 augustus 2006 6:36
Aan: rv10-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: RV10-List: Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
So that "small nosewheel shimmy" I've mentioned for the past couple
of weeks....
Tonight I found that the old posts someone previously made on this
subject REALLY need to be not only investigated fully, but I
completely believe that basically EVERY RV-10 will have this
problem if you do not plan ahead and do something about it before it
happens to you.
Check out this Front Axle and Fork wear write-up:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20060809/index.html
If you read my write-up, you'll see that I previously even called
Van's after someone else had the problem, trying to proactively
"fix" the issue, even though I wasn't fully aware of exactly how
the problem manifested itself. What REALLY would be nice is if people
find things like this, post some pictures and an explanation.
A picture is worth 1000 words, and it makes it much easier to
understand. Had I known about this before, I would not be in this
position today. My front Fork is now worn with a groove, and my
temper is lit. Tomorrow I'll be calling again to find out if
there is already a "fix" that is finally publicly known...and then
I'll add it to the above page.
Additionally, this has prompted me to stay up a little extra tonight
and lay the groundwork for the "Maintenance Issue" section of the
RV-10 Tips page at:
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/index.html
Hopefully I can get some good input from others about things that
everyone really needs to watch for once they start flying. Lets
keep these planes in the air, and keep them safe.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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