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1. 04:14 AM - Re: Overhead Console (Belue, Kevin)
2. 04:49 AM - Re: door seal (was Overhead Console) (Wayne Edgerton)
3. 05:03 AM - Re: door seal (was Overhead Console) (Wayne Edgerton)
4. 05:38 AM - Re: Insurance for buildingInsurance for first flight (Wayne Edgerton)
5. 06:31 AM - Re: door seal (was Overhead Console) (Mark Ritter)
6. 06:59 AM - Re: Insurance for building (Paul Grimstad)
7. 07:28 AM - Re: Insurance for first flight (Lockamy, Jack L)
8. 02:40 PM - G ratings ()
9. 05:22 PM - Re: G ratings (Tim Olson)
10. 05:26 PM - New Andair Fuel Valve. (zackrv8)
11. 05:38 PM - Re: New to the list (Les Kearney)
12. 06:04 PM - Re: New Andair Fuel Valve. (Carl Froehlich)
13. 06:09 PM - fuel return ()
14. 06:18 PM - Re: New Andair Fuel Valve. (Tim Olson)
15. 06:34 PM - Re: New Andair Fuel Valve. (Neal George)
16. 06:45 PM - Re: New Andair Fuel Valve. (Neal George)
17. 06:45 PM - Re: fuel return (Tim Olson)
18. 06:45 PM - Re: New Andair Fuel Valve. (Tim Olson)
19. 06:56 PM - Re: New Andair Fuel Valve. (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
20. 07:08 PM - Re: New Andair Fuel Valve. (zackrv8)
21. 07:19 PM - MVP-50 Fuel Flow Transducer (zackrv8)
22. 07:47 PM - Re: fuel return (Deems Davis)
23. 08:22 PM - LED Bulbs (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
24. 09:38 PM - My Tunnel Heat Fix (jsmcgrew@aol.com)
25. 09:50 PM - A few new photos and items posted (Tim Olson)
26. 09:54 PM - LED Bulbs (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
27. 10:18 PM - Re: My Tunnel Heat Fix (Tim Olson)
28. 10:58 PM - FW: G ratings (Sean Blair)
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| Subject: | Overhead Console |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Belue, Kevin" <KBelue@DRS-TEM.com>
Ok, John. Contact me off-list when you're ready.
Kevin D. Belue
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Testement [mailto:jwt@roadmapscoaching.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 6:56 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Testement"
<jwt@roadmapscoaching.com>
>
> Kevin
>
> I will take your console. I will be out of town until Monday. We can
> discuss details then.
>
> John Testement
> jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
> 40321
> Richmond, VA
> Finish kit - gear legs and wheels
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Belue, Kevin
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 7:09 PM
> To: 'rv10-list@matronics.com'
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Overhead Console
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Belue, Kevin" <KBelue@DRS-TEM.com>
>
> I have an overhead console from a '95 Chevy Blazer that I've decided not
to
> use. It is in used condition and looks good, except for a slight cut in
the
> fabric on one side. I'd like to sell it - $37 including shipping in the US
> only, which is what I paid.
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> Kevin D. Belue
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| Subject: | Re: door seal (was Overhead Console) |
Thanks Larry, that's what I was trying to find. I actually had found it
from a response from Mark Ritter, but thank you for responding. I also
found out that Alex De Dominicis will be carrying them on his web site
for a liitle bit less than what you can buy them for at AirCraft Door
Seals. Here is Alex's web site address, if anyone is interested. I don't
think they are posted yet be he has them available.
http://www.rvtraining.com/html/aviationtechproducts.html
Alex also does RV10 transition training here in the Dallas/Fort Worth
area if anyone is interested in transition training. I will be doing my
transition training with him. His RV10 has air conditioning for the hot
weather here. Alex is an Air Traffic Controller here in the DFW area.
http://www.rvtraining.com/
Wayne Edgerton #40336
gonna try and start on the wheel pants which everyone says is really
great fun
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| Subject: | Re: door seal (was Overhead Console) |
Hi again Larry,
I forgot to answer your question on what I found out on price of the
seals.
The people at AIrcraft Door Seals said the seals would be $69.95 per
door and $39.95 for the baggage door. I talked breifly with Alex on my
cell when I was in Lowes yesterday so I can't remember his exact price
but he was in the $56 per door range or something like that. I've got to
call him back on the exact price. He said he should have in posted to
his site real soon.
Wayne Edgerton
#40336
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance for buildingInsurance for first flight |
HI Michael,
I have mine insured (actually I just noticed underinsured) with Avemco.
I currently have $100,000 coverage and it's costing me $865 a year. My
notes say for $80,000 it would be $708.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
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| Subject: | Re: door seal (was Overhead Console) |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
My son and I did transition training with Alex. In addition to being a
great guy you will love the A/C. It's going to be 104 today in Austin.
Mark
>From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: door seal (was Overhead Console)
>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 06:48:06 -0500
>
>Thanks Larry, that's what I was trying to find. I actually had found it
>from a response from Mark Ritter, but thank you for responding. I also
>found out that Alex De Dominicis will be carrying them on his web site for
>a liitle bit less than what you can buy them for at AirCraft Door Seals.
>Here is Alex's web site address, if anyone is interested. I don't think
>they are posted yet be he has them available.
>
>http://www.rvtraining.com/html/aviationtechproducts.html
>
>Alex also does RV10 transition training here in the Dallas/Fort Worth area
>if anyone is interested in transition training. I will be doing my
>transition training with him. His RV10 has air conditioning for the hot
>weather here. Alex is an Air Traffic Controller here in the DFW area.
>
>http://www.rvtraining.com/
>
>
>Wayne Edgerton #40336
>
>gonna try and start on the wheel pants which everyone says is really great
>fun
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance for building |
Lubricating UHMW BlocksIf your shopping insurance, I found this listing
of agencies.
http://www.aviationtoday.com/cgi/rw/show_mag.cgi?pub=rw&mon=0900&file
=09insurance.htm
Paul Grimstad
RV10 40450 Fuselage
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----- Original Message -----
From: David McNeill
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Insurance for building
Falcon Insurance Agency got me builders insurance through AIG? for 1%
of stated value. Must be able to prove stated value with invoices
----- Original Message -----
From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:52 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Insurance for building
With all the talk about flying insurance I thought I would ask who
everyone is using for builders insurance, if they are. I have reached
the point where I have enough invested that I don't want the risk
hanging out there anymore.
Michael Sausen
RV-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus due to moving
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russell Daves
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:13 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Insurance for first flight
I also went with AIG, through NationAir and they waived make and
model time in an RV-10 for both me and my buddy who I added as a named
pilot. We both have in excess of 1400 hours. I have almost 300 TT in
an RV-6A but my buddy doesn't have any RV time.
Insured for $200,000.00 for less than $3800.00 premium.
Russ Daves
N710RV Flying - going to paint shop tomorrow
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Cooper
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 10:03 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Insurance for first flight
I had a near anxiety attack causing lesson yesterday over my
insurance. My machine is all signed off and ready to go for Saturday,
so I called the insurance folks I had spoken to during Sun-n-Fun
prepared to bind the insurance. While at Sun-n-Fun, I had been told
that my 5,500+ hours, extensive RV-6 and other low wing time (Cherokee,
etc) would count as close enough to the RV-10 so no -10 time was
required. Well, things have changed and I was told from several
insurers that between 2-5 hours Dual was required and one company said
they wouldn't insure during the test period no matter what. I was heart
broken over possibly not being able to fly this weekend.
Fortunately, after many calls to every agent I could think of, the
folks at Falcon Insurance hooked me up with AIG and approved no
experience requirements but with an increased deductible and reduced
liability during the test phase - WHEW! I am certainly a firm believer
in experience in make and model and don't want to downplay the benefits,
but I survived my Q-2 and Skybolt with no make/model time and have
enough experience in enough types that I'm confident all will go well,
and apparently so does Falcon. This is certainly not the right answer
for everyone, but I wanted to stress that the industry has become more
conservative regarding the RV-10 (one broker told me they were leaning
toward 250 hrs TT and an instrument rating!) so I'd recommend folks plan
ahead and get the training if required.
Marcus
40286
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance for first flight |
Most public airports REQUIRE One-Million Dollars of LIABILITY Insurance
before you can 'legally' hangar, tiedown, store or operate your aircraft
on the airport public property. Check with the local Airport Manager.
I had to name my airport on my insurance policy in order for the airport
to be covered in case of a loss. I don't have a million dollars in my
checking account so I had to purchase this coverage from somebody that
does (Falcon Insurance Broker, AIG underwriter).
HULL insurance or as some refer to it as 'collision', is NOT required.
If you have deep pockets and/or can afford to self-insure your $100K
plus RV-10, go for it. Most homebuilders I know can not afford to lose
$100K, therefore we buy insurance. I had the million dollar liability
insurance and NO HULL on my Sonex (N164JL) and had a very unfortunate
crash that I tell others cost me $35K in less than 10 seconds when the
prop hub disconnected from the crankshaft. That was a very big blow to
my savings account and I learned the hard way. It can happen to
anybody. Can you handle the financial loss if it happened to you? My
current aircraft (RV-7A) is FULLY insured with both HULL and LIABILITY!
:-)
I'm no DAR, but I don't believe they 'give a hoot' whether you have
insurance or not.
Jack Lockamy
RV-7A N174JL 210 hrs.
RV-10 lurker... thinking about it
Camarillo, CA
www.jacklockamy.com
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--> RV10-List message posted by: <seanblair@adelphia.net>
I just had the opportunity to take a terrific ride in an AT-6 Texan this last weekend.
Complete with all the aerobatics I cared to enjoy. What a blast!!!
We got the G reading to just under 4. The secret to a calm stomach.....half a
Diet Dr. Pepper for breakfast on the way there.
Just out of curiousity.....what are the positive and negative G ratings of the
ten? I haven't seen these published anywhere. I know we won't do the aerobatic
thing in our 10, but out of comparison to my recent experience I want to know.
Thanks,
Sean Blair
#40225
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Hi Sean,
Here's a link from Van's site regarding the engineering of the RV-10.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int2.htm
I think it was designed for use within the standard category normal
limits of +3.8 and -1.52 G's.
That's great that you took a flight in an AT-6 Texan. I'm hoping to
do some advanced recovery training some day, perhaps in a plane
like that.
We too had a new experience this past weekend. We went to 3 local
fly-in's in the RV-10, one of which was at a small grass strip
with just about every type of small plane and ultralight you can
imagine. We paid and took the 4 of us up in a 1929 Curtis Wright
TravelAir Biplane. It sure was an experience! I've never
seen my youngest so happy in an airplane. (photo attached)
This reminds me....from time to time, the discussion turns to where
to put the OAT probe in the airplane. One builder recently told
me they didn't want to tear things up to move the wire out to
under the wing, somewhere mid-span, like I suggested...and that
they would mount it far back aft under the tailcone. From the
ride in the TravelAir, I can tell you for sure that you would
never want to do this. I could feel the heat off the cylinders
a few feet back within the boundry layer around the airplane.
There is almost no possible way that your OAT will read properly if
it's inline with the prop, either in the sun on top, or the exhaust
flow on the bottom. Move it out to a place under the wing, near an
inspection panel. If you don't, not only will your chance of icing
maybe go up, but your systems like in my case the Chelton's won't
be able to accurately calculate density altitude and True Airspeed.
Anyway, nice to see you're not so focused on the -10 that you
won't get out and have some fun!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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seanblair@adelphia.net wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: <seanblair@adelphia.net>
>
> I just had the opportunity to take a terrific ride in an AT-6 Texan
> this last weekend. Complete with all the aerobatics I cared to
> enjoy. What a blast!!! We got the G reading to just under 4. The
> secret to a calm stomach.....half a Diet Dr. Pepper for breakfast on
> the way there.
>
> Just out of curiousity.....what are the positive and negative G
> ratings of the ten? I haven't seen these published anywhere. I know
> we won't do the aerobatic thing in our 10, but out of comparison to
> my recent experience I want to know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean Blair #40225
>
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| Subject: | New Andair Fuel Valve. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
Guys,
At Oshkosh, I ordered the new Andair valve (FS20X7) (http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html) for my RV10. When I got home, I read Tim Olson's site and the problems he had with clearance with the male AN fittings. So, I sent an email to Andy and told him of the clearance problem on the RV10 with that valve.
I was expecting him to send me a valve with female ends on it so that I could
put my own 90 degree el's on it. Instead, he sent me this. Check out the pics
below.
Zack
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RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
Hi Len
Many thanks for the very kind offer - I just may make my way out to Kelowna
to see your project. I have made contact with NAIT to see if they have a
programme that will work with my schedule. I would like to take a course in
metal work as I have never done this before.
I have also been toying with taking a SportAir course or perhaps even trying
one of the builder assist centers for the empennage. I would guess that
after 8-10 days of intense work, I should acquire most of the skills
required to complete the airframe. Fiberglass will be another thing!
Cheers
Les Kearney
Edmonton, Alberta
(780) 707-0169
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of L Aune
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:40 AM
Subject: RV10-List: New to the list
--> RV10-List message posted by: L Aune <lcaune@cablelan.net>
Les
I am a builder from Kelowna working on the doors at present. I am an
AME-M and an AME-S teaching aircraft structures for BCIT. If you
ever get out this way I'll give you a mini start-up course which will
safely get you started on this great project. Drop by or call Len
250-766-5456.
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| Subject: | New Andair Fuel Valve. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@cox.net>
What part number goes with this?
Carl
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of zackrv8
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:27 PM
Subject: RV10-List: New Andair Fuel Valve.
--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
Guys,
At Oshkosh, I ordered the new Andair valve (FS20X7)
(http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html) for my RV10. When I got home, I
read Tim Olson's site and the problems he had with clearance with the male
AN fittings. So, I sent an email to Andy and told him of the clearance
problem on the RV10 with that valve.
I was expecting him to send me a valve with female ends on it so that I
could put my own 90 degree el's on it. Instead, he sent me this. Check out
the pics below.
Zack
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RV10 # 40512
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--> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
When use an IO 540 (from Mattituck) is a return fuel line needed to the fuel tanks?.
Thanks in advance
Hugo
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> From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
> Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 08:26:34 EDT
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: New Andair Fuel Valve.
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
>
> Guys,
>
> At Oshkosh, I ordered the new Andair valve (FS20X7) (http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html) for my RV10. When I got home, I read Tim Olson's site and the problems he had with clearance with the male AN fittings. So, I sent an email to Andy and told him of the clearance problem on the RV10 with that valve.
>
> I was expecting him to send me a valve with female ends on it so that I could
put my own 90 degree el's on it. Instead, he sent me this. Check out the
pics below.
>
> Zack
>
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| Subject: | Re: New Andair Fuel Valve. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Zack, the photos didn't come through. You may want to try again
or I can post photos if nothing else works. Just to clarify
though, the FS20X7 I don't think was the part I used...if I
remember right. I think that was the new Y oriented valve,
right?
Good luck, you'll like the Andair valves.
Tim
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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zackrv8 wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
>
> Guys,
>
> At Oshkosh, I ordered the new Andair valve (FS20X7)
> (http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html) for my RV10. When I got
> home, I read Tim Olson's site and the problems he had with clearance
> with the male AN fittings. So, I sent an email to Andy and told him
> of the clearance problem on the RV10 with that valve.
>
> I was expecting him to send me a valve with female ends on it so that
> I could put my own 90 degree el's on it. Instead, he sent me this.
> Check out the pics below.
>
> Zack
>
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| Subject: | New Andair Fuel Valve. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Neal George" <neal@appaero.com>
Carl -
The complete part number for the valve pictured is FS20X7T
FS = Fuel Selector
20 = line diameter in 1/2-mm increments (10mm is about 3/8" or AN6)
X = Male AN6 outlet fitting. Female outlet would be "F"
T = 90-deg elbow AN6 inlet fittings. Or "M" for male, "F" for female.
Neal E. George
2023 Everglades Drive
Navarre, FL 32566
Home - 850-515-0640
Cell - 850-218-4838
What part number goes with this?
Carl
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| Subject: | New Andair Fuel Valve. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Neal George" <neal@appaero.com>
Tim -
You used a FS20X3M.
Neal E. George
2023 Everglades Drive
Navarre, FL 32566
Home - 850-515-0640
Cell - 850-218-4838
Just to clarify though, the FS20X7 I don't think was the part I used...
Tim
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
No, that's the continental that required that. The IO-540 does not,
at least in the standard install.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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gommone7@bellsouth.net wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
>
> When use an IO 540 (from Mattituck) is a return fuel line needed to the fuel
tanks?.
> Thanks in advance
> Hugo
> do not archive
>> From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
>> Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 08:26:34 EDT
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: New Andair Fuel Valve.
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>> At Oshkosh, I ordered the new Andair valve (FS20X7) (http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html) for my RV10. When I got home, I read Tim Olson's site and the problems he had with clearance with the male AN fittings. So, I sent an email to Andy and told him of the clearance problem on the RV10 with that valve.
>>
>> I was expecting him to send me a valve with female ends on it so that I could
put my own 90 degree el's on it. Instead, he sent me this. Check out the
pics below.
>>
>> Zack
>>
>> --------
>> RV8 #80125
>> RV10 # 40512
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55380#55380
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc05666_742.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc05665_474.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc05656_278.jpg
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc05659_993.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: New Andair Fuel Valve. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Ooops, I didn't see the attachment links. Yeah, those new
90 degree fittings were just coming out but AFTER I got my
valve. Those are definitely much nicer than what I had to
deal with. I don't know how much more space you get on the
180 degree valve, but on that valve, it would be fantastic.
You're on the right track for sure.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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zackrv8 wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
>
> Guys,
>
> At Oshkosh, I ordered the new Andair valve (FS20X7)
> (http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html) for my RV10. When I got
> home, I read Tim Olson's site and the problems he had with clearance
> with the male AN fittings. So, I sent an email to Andy and told him
> of the clearance problem on the RV10 with that valve.
>
> I was expecting him to send me a valve with female ends on it so that
> I could put my own 90 degree el's on it. Instead, he sent me this.
> Check out the pics below.
>
> Zack
> >
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc05666_742.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc05665_474.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc05656_278.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc05659_993.jpg
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| Subject: | New Andair Fuel Valve. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Yep, that's the best one to use from Andair at the moment. It's more
aesthetically pleasing with the "Y" configuration and much easier to get
lines attached. Check out various entries @:
<http://www.mykitlog.com/users/category.php?user=msausen&project=22&cate
gory=1703>
Michael Sausen
-10 #352
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zackrv8
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: RV10-List: New Andair Fuel Valve.
--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
Guys,
At Oshkosh, I ordered the new Andair valve (FS20X7)
(http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html) for my RV10. When I got
home, I read Tim Olson's site and the problems he had with clearance
with the male AN fittings. So, I sent an email to Andy and told him of
the clearance problem on the RV10 with that valve.
I was expecting him to send me a valve with female ends on it so that
I could put my own 90 degree el's on it. Instead, he sent me this.
Check out the pics below.
Zack
--------
RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55380#55380
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc05666_742.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc05665_474.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: New Andair Fuel Valve. |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
carl.froehlich(at)cox.net wrote:
> What part number goes with this?
>
> Carl
>
> --
Carl,
My invoice says Part No. FS20X7-T
Zack
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RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55406#55406
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| Subject: | MVP-50 Fuel Flow Transducer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
If anyone is going to use the MVP-50 from Electronis Intl like I am, you might
save yourself some time and NOT install the fuel-flow transducer bracket in the
tunnel.
EI does NOT use the FlowScan transducer. They use their own that they designed.
They do not want it mounted "rigid." They want it mounted on a flex line
just before the fuel goes into the divider. They told me they reason for that
is that they want fuel "PUSHED" into the Transducer and not possibly "PULLED"
by the engine fuel pump.
Zack
--------
RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
It depends upon which Fuel Injection system you are installing. If you
install one of the AFP systems, they have a 'purge' line that requires
plumbing to return the purged fuel.
Deems Davis # 406
Fuse/Finishing/Panel
http://deemsrv10.com/
Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> No, that's the continental that required that. The IO-540 does not,
> at least in the standard install.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> gommone7@bellsouth.net wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> When use an IO 540 (from Mattituck) is a return fuel line needed to
>> the fuel tanks?.
>> Thanks in advance Hugo
>> do not archive
>>
>>> From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
>>> Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 08:26:34 EDT
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: RV10-List: New Andair Fuel Valve.
>>>
>>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
>>>
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> At Oshkosh, I ordered the new Andair valve (FS20X7)
>>> (http://www.andair.co.uk/system/index.html) for my RV10. When I got
>>> home, I read Tim Olson's site and the problems he had with clearance
>>> with the male AN fittings. So, I sent an email to Andy and told him
>>> of the clearance problem on the RV10 with that valve.
>>>
>>> I was expecting him to send me a valve with female ends on it so
>>> that I could put my own 90 degree el's on it. Instead, he sent me
>>> this. Check out the pics below.
>>>
>>> Zack
>>>
>>> --------
>>> RV8 #80125 RV10 # 40512
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55380#55380
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc05665_474.jpg
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Here is another company with lots of options.
http://autolumination.com/
Michael Sausen
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron
Gillespie
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:36 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Console - Lighting
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Byron Gillespie" <bgill1@charter.net>
For some others that are utilizing the Chevrolet overhead console, I
have found some decent LED lights that are a perfect retrofit. I wanted
to ditch the factory white ones so began playing around fabricating some
bulbs - they worked great but were time consuming to fabricate. I
checked at my favorite store and found some options to investigate. I
bought 4 Red LED bulbs for the map lights and a blue for the dome light.
I bought several others to try out but these are the best I found. All
look great. The seller on eBay that I used was "velocityled_1" there are
likely others but he was super fast and very professional to deal with.
They are set for 12V automotive application so are already set with
resistors and diode for current protection.
The power draw is 0.05A each - all 5 lights lit up .25A
Eyeball - "VELOCITY LEDS SUPER RED HIGH POWER LED BULB 194 168 158"
- 2 for 8.99+S&H
Console - "SUPER BLUE HIGH POWER LED BULB 211-2 212-2 214-2"
- 1 for 6.99 + S&H (can combine)
Just another custom option.
Byron - #40253 - N253RV assigned - more finishing, wiring, and firewall
forward
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| Subject: | My Tunnel Heat Fix |
Second try to post this message:
On my first 3 flights the tunnel got very warm. You could still hold your hand
on it (just barely) but it was hot in there. Additionally, the belly of the aircraft
just aft of the cowling was HOT after the flight. Now that I've made some
easy changes the tunnel is cool to lukewarm and there is no appreciable heat
on the belly after flight. I've been flying in 80 to 90+ degree weather with
the heater scat tubing connected.
I heard about the tunnel heat problem a little late and I built only a few preemptive
things into the plane. I put ceramic gaskets behind the heater valves to
keep heat from transfering to the firewall/tunnel. I installed a blast tube
on the firewall forward of the tunnel. And I installed a computer fan in the tunnel
cover just over the fuel pump (this actually made a big difference in tunnel
heat once I turned it on.)
These things didn't fix the problem, but here's what did. I was having CHT and
oil temp overheating problems and one of the things I did to fix this problem
was increase the cowl air exit area to improve air flow. As you can see from the
photo I enlarged one of the louvers and added an additional one - this didn't
make much difference alone. Then I trimmed the aft edge of the "reverse scoop"
forward about an inch (see photo). This increases the exit area, but I think
it also allows the hot air to move down and away from the fuse and disipate
faster.
I'm sure that I added extra drag to my plane, but the engine and tunnel are now
cool.
Jim McGrew
40134 - flying
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| Subject: | A few new photos and items posted |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
None of this is too big a deal, but I did a bit of updating on
some things today, and some people may be interested. I'm still
backlogged with lots of info to finally get in the tips area, but
here are the most recent things I have.
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20060816/index.html
** Show's new TruTrak Pitch servo mod...you may want to
get this one if you aren't flying yet.
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20060531/index.html
** More pinpoint install photos, since production
pinpoints are starting to ship
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20060809/index.html
** Added photos of new axle spacers
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20060601/index.html
** Added Oil Analysis Info
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/workarea.html
** Added a link to Van's crating weight sheet
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/flight_testing/index.html
** Added a link to Van's sheet on Airspeed markings
Enjoy,
Tim
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Here is another company with lots of options.
http://autolumination.com/
Michael Sausen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron
Gillespie
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 5:36 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Console - Lighting
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Byron Gillespie" <bgill1@charter.net>
For some others that are utilizing the Chevrolet overhead console, I
have found some decent LED lights that are a perfect retrofit. I wanted
to ditch the factory white ones so began playing around fabricating some
bulbs - they worked great but were time consuming to fabricate. I
checked at my favorite store and found some options to investigate. I
bought 4 Red LED bulbs for the map lights and a blue for the dome light.
I bought several others to try out but these are the best I found. All
look great. The seller on eBay that I used was "velocityled_1" there are
likely others but he was super fast and very professional to deal with.
They are set for 12V automotive application so are already set with
resistors and diode for current protection.
The power draw is 0.05A each - all 5 lights lit up .25A
Eyeball - "VELOCITY LEDS SUPER RED HIGH POWER LED BULB 194 168 158"
- 2 for 8.99+S&H
Console - "SUPER BLUE HIGH POWER LED BULB 211-2 212-2 214-2"
- 1 for 6.99 + S&H (can combine)
Just another custom option.
Byron - #40253 - N253RV assigned - more finishing, wiring, and firewall
forward
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| Subject: | Re: My Tunnel Heat Fix |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Congrats on the fix! That really doesn't look bad at all.
I wonder if just trimming that aft 1" of the cowl alone would
improve things the majority of what you noticed.
At any rate, it's great to see someone trying different things.
I didn't have the problem, but decided to try to make things
as cool as possible. If forgot to add this link to my list
tonight, but here are some vetterman exhaust extensions I added.
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20060807/index.html
For people who saw it at OSH, you could really tell that my
pipes were shorter than the newest ones. And, not wanting
to miss out on the "mine is longer" competition, I decided to
give it a whirl. No real change. I may just try hacking off
that rear 1" though...that seems really simple and reasonable.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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jsmcgrew@aol.com wrote:
> Second try to post this message:
>
> On my first 3 flights the tunnel got very warm. You could still hold
> your hand on it (just barely) but it was hot in there. Additionally, the
> belly of the aircraft just aft of the cowling was HOT after the flight.
> Now that I've made some easy changes the tunnel is cool to lukewarm and
> there is no appreciable heat on the belly after flight. I've been flying
> in 80 to 90+ degree weather with the heater scat tubing connected.
>
> I heard about the tunnel heat problem a little late and I built only a
> few preemptive things into the plane. I put ceramic gaskets behind the
> heater valves to keep heat from transfering to the firewall/tunnel. I
> installed a blast tube on the firewall forward of the tunnel. And I
> installed a computer fan in the tunnel cover just over the fuel pump
> (this actually made a big difference in tunnel heat once I turned it on.)
>
> These things didn't fix the problem, but here's what did. I was having
> CHT and oil temp overheating problems and one of the things I did to fix
> this problem was increase the cowl air exit area to improve air flow. As
> you can see from the photo I enlarged one of the louvers and added an
> additional one - this didn't make much difference alone. Then I trimmed
> the aft edge of the "reverse scoop" forward about an inch (see photo).
> This increases the exit area, but I think it also allows the hot air to
> move down and away from the fuse and disipate faster.
>
> I'm sure that I added extra drag to my plane, but the engine and tunnel
> are now cool.
>
> Jim McGrew
> 40134 - flying
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> [Image Removed]
>
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Hey Tim,
Thanks for the direction.
You are absolutely correct. Enjoying flight and all that goes with it is a
major reason for the build. The people that surround it, the unbelievable
scenery, the excitement of your youngest as she gets to take a ride in a
very cool 1929 Curtis Wright TravelAir Biplane.....and so much more.
All of us building are very blessed for the opportunity to do so. Can you
think of many things better than pouring hours of your time into a project
that allows for so much fun with your family and the satisfaction of such an
accomplishment? You and the others that have completed the project....now
fly! The rest of us can't wait to get there, but along the way there are
small victories that are adding up to the big payoff.
For now....I'm a builder that is a student pilot. I have much to learn.
Soon I will be the certificated pilot of an airplane that I was fortunate to
build.
I've attached a picture of the AT-6. The pilot/owner is Dick Jones. The
plane is "The Spanish Lady" and it is beautiful on the ground and in the
air. Unfortunately, he must sell it due to high fuel costs. Anyone want to
upgrade?
Thanks for your help, again.
Sean Blair
#40225
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: G ratings
Hi Sean,
Here's a link from Van's site regarding the engineering of the RV-10.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int2.htm
I think it was designed for use within the standard category normal
limits of +3.8 and -1.52 G's.
That's great that you took a flight in an AT-6 Texan. I'm hoping to
do some advanced recovery training some day, perhaps in a plane
like that.
We too had a new experience this past weekend. We went to 3 local
fly-in's in the RV-10, one of which was at a small grass strip
with just about every type of small plane and ultralight you can
imagine. We paid and took the 4 of us up in a 1929 Curtis Wright
TravelAir Biplane. It sure was an experience! I've never
seen my youngest so happy in an airplane. (photo attached)
This reminds me....from time to time, the discussion turns to where
to put the OAT probe in the airplane. One builder recently told
me they didn't want to tear things up to move the wire out to
under the wing, somewhere mid-span, like I suggested...and that
they would mount it far back aft under the tailcone. From the
ride in the TravelAir, I can tell you for sure that you would
never want to do this. I could feel the heat off the cylinders
a few feet back within the boundry layer around the airplane.
There is almost no possible way that your OAT will read properly if
it's inline with the prop, either in the sun on top, or the exhaust
flow on the bottom. Move it out to a place under the wing, near an
inspection panel. If you don't, not only will your chance of icing
maybe go up, but your systems like in my case the Chelton's won't
be able to accurately calculate density altitude and True Airspeed.
Anyway, nice to see you're not so focused on the -10 that you
won't get out and have some fun!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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seanblair@adelphia.net wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: <seanblair@adelphia.net>
>
> I just had the opportunity to take a terrific ride in an AT-6 Texan
> this last weekend. Complete with all the aerobatics I cared to
> enjoy. What a blast!!! We got the G reading to just under 4. The
> secret to a calm stomach.....half a Diet Dr. Pepper for breakfast on
> the way there.
>
> Just out of curiousity.....what are the positive and negative G
> ratings of the ten? I haven't seen these published anywhere. I know
> we won't do the aerobatic thing in our 10, but out of comparison to
> my recent experience I want to know.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean Blair #40225
>
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