RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 08/21/06


Total Messages Posted: 18



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     1. 01:30 AM - Re: First Flights Down Under (Scott Lewis)
     2. 01:55 AM - Re: First Flights Down Under (Chris , Susie Darcy)
     3. 02:42 AM - Re: First Flights Down Under (Peter Franke)
     4. 05:43 AM - Re: First Flight (Wayne Edgerton)
     5. 06:29 AM - Re: N585MR Flies! (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
     6. 06:33 AM - Skybolt adjustable cam locks (Wayne Edgerton)
     7. 07:44 AM - Re: Skybolt adjustable cam locks (Mark Ritter)
     8. 08:05 AM - Re: AN Clocking (again) (Vern W. Smith)
     9. 10:32 AM - Re: Skybolt adjustable cam locks (Jim & Julie Wade)
    10. 10:36 AM - almost ready!!!!! (Jim & Julie Wade)
    11. 11:25 AM - Re: almost ready!!!!! (Sean Stephens)
    12. 02:36 PM - Re: almost ready!!!!! (Jim & Julie Wade)
    13. 05:02 PM - Panel Drawing (Jesse Saint)
    14. 05:15 PM - Re: N585MR First Flight Pics - CHT probes (Marcus Cooper)
    15. 05:16 PM - How to speak Ozzie (McGANN, Ron)
    16. 06:57 PM - Re: FW: Panel Drawing (Tim Olson)
    17. 07:39 PM - Re: Skybolt adjustable cam locks (Neil McLeod)
    18. 09:58 PM - Re: Skybolt adjustable cam locks (KiloPapa)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:30:36 AM PST US
    From: Scott Lewis <rv10@tpg.com.au>
    Subject: Re: First Flights Down Under
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Scott Lewis <rv10@tpg.com.au> Hey!! Wait a minute! Who is selling my tail kit?! An what am I going to do with the wings I am halfway through?! :-) Got you wires crossed there I think, John. Two other kits here in South Oz, Ron McGann at Finishing and Pat Pulis who has just ordered his wings. I will also add VH-ZEG Chris Zeitz - First flew late June/Early July in South Australia. Have fun, Scott Lewis RV-10 40172 VH-DRS - Fuel tanks and DEFINITELY NOT FOR SALE!! Adelaide, South Australia John W. Cox wrote: > VH-TXD Terry Doe in Western AUS > > VH-NVL Neville Boyle #40107 in Victoria (and I should have answered my > earlier question) sorry. > > VH-DRS Scott Lewis who was selling his tail kit in South AUS > > VH-VDM Douglas Montague in Peakhurst NSW, AUS which I believe is flying > > VH-ELU John Jogodnik flying in May, 2006 > > John Cox KUAO > > Do not Archive > > * > > > *


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    Time: 01:55:41 AM PST US
    From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: First Flights Down Under
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com> And the rest !! There are another 3 in Vic that I can think of ! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Lewis" <rv10@tpg.com.au> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:29 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flights Down Under > --> RV10-List message posted by: Scott Lewis <rv10@tpg.com.au> > > Hey!! Wait a minute! > > Who is selling my tail kit?! An what am I going to do with the wings I am > halfway through?! > > :-) > > Got you wires crossed there I think, John. > Two other kits here in South Oz, Ron McGann at Finishing and Pat Pulis who > has just ordered his wings. > > I will also add VH-ZEG Chris Zeitz - First flew late June/Early July in > South Australia. > > Have fun, > Scott Lewis > RV-10 40172 VH-DRS - Fuel tanks and DEFINITELY NOT FOR SALE!! > Adelaide, South Australia > > John W. Cox wrote: >> VH-TXD Terry Doe in Western AUS >> >> VH-NVL Neville Boyle #40107 in Victoria (and I should have answered my >> earlier question) sorry. >> >> VH-DRS Scott Lewis who was selling his tail kit in South AUS >> >> VH-VDM Douglas Montague in Peakhurst NSW, AUS which I believe is flying >> >> VH-ELU John Jogodnik flying in May, 2006 >> >> John Cox KUAO >> >> Do not Archive >> >> * >> >> >> * > > >


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    Time: 02:42:03 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Franke" <pfranke@tpg.com.au>
    Subject: First Flights Down Under
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Peter Franke" <pfranke@tpg.com.au> I'll throw another one into the mix. VH-VIO built by Andre Viljoen in Canberra has been flying for several months now. Cheers, Peter F > VH-ZEG Chris Zeitz - First flew late June/Early July in South Australia. > VH-TXD Terry Doe in Western AUS > > VH-NVL Neville Boyle #40107 in Victoria (and I should have answered my > earlier question) sorry. > > VH-DRS Scott Lewis who was selling his tail kit in South AUS > > VH-VDM Douglas Montague in Peakhurst NSW, AUS which I believe is flying > > VH-ELU John Jogodnik flying in May, 2006


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    Time: 05:43:04 AM PST US
    From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net>
    Subject: Re: First Flight
    G'day Neville, Av-a-go-yer-mug bloke - good on ya mate. I imagine you had a couple coldies after that flight. That's about all the Aussi I can muster. I can see you Rv grin all the way over here. Congratulation cheerio Wayne Edgerton #40336 do not archive


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    Time: 06:29:26 AM PST US
    Subject: N585MR Flies!
    From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com> I had the same high temps on my #1 and #2 cylinders during the flyoff period. The weekend we did the flyoff it was 98 - 102 on the ground. I started by cutting down the front baffles a 1/2" at a time. It was getting better each time, but in the end, I had to remove the front baffle plate completely on both #1 and #2 cylinder. Temps are real close now with the hot weather in Kansas. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 N519RV Flying. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 10:46 AM Subject: RV10-List: N585MR Flies! --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net> I finally took to the skies this morning with a (as seems to be the standard) very uneventful flight. The #1 CHT got warmer than I'd like so I didn't keep the power as high as I planned, but otherwise it flew great! Lots of spectators and encouragement from family and the squadron mates so that made it that much more exciting. One question for the group regarding the high CHT. I know it will drop as the engine breaks in some, but I have the standard kit baffle that covers the leading edge of the cylinder (on both sides). It seems that reducing the size some would help but I'd be open to ideas before I start hacking away at it. The other temps were within reason (<400 with #1 pushing 435 and slightly above momentarily) so I'm hesitant to make any huge changes to the rest of the baffling or cowling without further data. Thanks for all the help on-line, especially Tim Olsen, the process would have taken a whole lot longer had I worked in a vacuum of information. Marcus 40286 - FLYING, 39hrs and 38 minutes to passengers! Do not archive


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    Time: 06:33:05 AM PST US
    From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net>
    Subject: Skybolt adjustable cam locks
    Don't know if any of you have considered cam locks vs hinges for your cowling. Skybolt has adjustable camlocks for the RV10 and they have a RV10 kit. The non adjustable camlocks would be a problem because they would loosen and damage the cowling. With the adjustable one you can keep them tight by adjusting them as they loosen. If anyone is interested here is their web site. Look around until you find the RV section. I'm just now installing mine. We'll see how well it goes. http://www.skybolt.com/ Here is their blurb. VANS RV SERIES AND OTHER KIT PLANE INSTALLATION Skybolt has perfected the installation of CLoc=AE Fasteners in hundreds of Vans RV 4,6,7,8,9 and 10 and other kit planes. The Skybolt design adds functionality and appearance to any cowling. Hinge is the perfect design for a pop-rivet aircraft. Skybolt CLoc=AE is the perfect design for a true investment in pride. Wayne Edgerton #40336 working installing camlocks


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    Time: 07:44:01 AM PST US
    From: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
    Subject: Skybolt adjustable cam locks
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com> Wayne, I used the Skybolt camlocks around the fuselage and they work great. I went with the piano hinge to connect the upper and lower cowls along the horizontal axis. I used the piano hinge because there are no curves along the sides (pins easy to get in and out) and they makes for a "clean" look. Mark (N410MR flying) >From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net> >To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RV10-List: Skybolt adjustable cam locks >Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:32:21 -0500 > >Don't know if any of you have considered cam locks vs hinges for your >cowling. Skybolt has adjustable camlocks for the RV10 and they have a RV10 >kit. The non adjustable camlocks would be a problem because they would >loosen and damage the cowling. With the adjustable one you can keep them >tight by adjusting them as they loosen. > >If anyone is interested here is their web site. Look around until you find >the RV section. I'm just now installing mine. We'll see how well it goes. > >http://www.skybolt.com/ > >Here is their blurb. > >VANS RV SERIES AND OTHER KIT PLANE INSTALLATION >Skybolt has perfected the installation of CLoc Fasteners in hundreds of >Vans RV 4,6,7,8,9 and 10 and other kit planes. The Skybolt design adds >functionality and appearance to any cowling. Hinge is the perfect design >for a pop-rivet aircraft. Skybolt CLoc is the perfect design for a true >investment in pride. > > >Wayne Edgerton #40336 > >working installing camlocks


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    Time: 08:05:20 AM PST US
    Subject: AN Clocking (again)
    From: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
    Bob, I was able to get a 35mm film canister full from my local FBO for about a $1 or 2. It doesn't take that much and a can will not only last you a life time it will last a shop almost a life time as well. Just a side note the stuff is really sticky and no it would come off your hands with avgas. Vern Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of NYTerminat@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 9:17 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: AN Clocking (again) Jack, Thanks, That is what I was looking for! Bob do not archive In a message dated 8/15/2006 10:56:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com writes: ACS has it. Page 355 of their new catalog, under "Lubricants". Sealube. Good stuff. Don't know why they don't list it with fuel system supplies. Jack Phillips #40610


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    Time: 10:32:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Skybolt adjustable cam locks
    From: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwadejr@hughes.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwadejr@hughes.net> Mark I did the same thing!! Adjustable camlock next to the fuselage and hinge on the half separation. When I realized I was going to have to do a lot of reenforcing the upper and lover half for the camlocks, I decided to go with the hinge. Not a lot of room for the camlocks next to the valve covers .I bought the RV-10 kit from Skybolt and didn't use but half of it. You might just want to buy enough camlocks just to do the back half. Finished everything, waiting on panel this week!!!! Jim 40383 Slow build Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56112#56112


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    Time: 10:36:40 AM PST US
    Subject: almost ready!!!!!
    From: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwadejr@hughes.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwadejr@hughes.net> Panel arriving this week!! A few weeks, should be up!!!! and Flying!!! Jim & Julie Wade 40383 slow build Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56115#56115 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/imgp0037_119.jpg


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    Time: 11:25:49 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: almost ready!!!!!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com> Jim &amp; Julie Wade wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwadejr@hughes.net> > > Panel arriving this week!! A few weeks, should be up!!!! and Flying!!! > > Jim & Julie Wade > 40383 > slow build > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56115#56115 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/imgp0037_119.jpg > That's a very nice looking paint job! -Sean #40303


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    Time: 02:36:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: almost ready!!!!!
    From: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwadejr@hughes.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwadejr@hughes.net> Yea Sean that has been one of the hardest jobs. Finally took everything to a friends body shop and used his paint booth. Did all the priming in my own homemade booth, Sanded, then took it to paint. We are very happy with the results. Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56164#56164


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    Time: 05:02:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Panel Drawing
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> Does anybody on the list have an accurate drawing of the standard Van's panel for the -10? I talked to Van's and they said there should be on on the Van's Airforce website, but they only had the 8 and 9 or something like that. If you have a drawing of the -10 (especially if you know from experience that it is accurate), please e-mail it off the list. A waterjet cutting company said it would be cheaper to cut the panel and all of the cutouts out of a ractangle of aluminum than to just cut out the...uh...cutouts...from an already cut out panel. Well, I think I got that out right. Thanks and do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org


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    Time: 05:15:36 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: N585MR First Flight Pics - CHT probes
    I swapped the probes as well as slightly lowering the front ramp and, oddly enough, the #1 cylinder still reads higher even though it's now reading the #3 cylinder. Obviously the probe is a little off. However, by climbing faster (110-120 knots) I'm able to keep everything below 400 with a few deviations on the #1 indication to 411. Marcus 3 hours and counting. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 9:26 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: N585MR First Flight Pics Great news. Congratulations! On the CHT, I was going to suggest swapping the probes. It's always best to make sure you truly have a problem before solving it. Keep us posted on this, as we have not seen this problem at all with the air ramps. Hey, X35 is almost inside you test flying area, isn't it (wink wink, nudge nudge). Keep it going. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:10 PM Subject: RV10-List: N585MR First Flight Pics Here are some pictures from N585MR before and after the initial voyage yesterday. No true RV-Grin shots, but I assure you it was there! I put another 1.5 on it today and all is going great. I got the pictures as small as possible, my apologizes if the e-mail is still a little large. Regarding the high #1 CHT, I swapped the #1 and 3 CHT probes and it turns out the sender must be a little off as it still showed #1 to be a little hotter than the rest. I also trimmed the baffle slightly, climbed out faster and all is good on the CHT gauge. One lesson learned from yesterday was I have 3 EFIS displays, a great Garmin stack and all I could find was the airspeed indication! New panel, new instrument crosscheck. Today went much better although the Dynon hung up at 60 degrees of bank and never fully recovered. I have not installed the updated software (firmware?) so hopefully that will help. I was able to take the time to work the avionics much more effectively, even listened to some tunes briefly. Great machine, can't wait to fly it again. Marcus 40286 do not archive -- 8/18/2006 -- 8/18/2006


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    Time: 05:16:00 PM PST US
    Subject: How to speak Ozzie
    From: "McGANN, Ron" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com>
    For you blokes that want to speak real Ozzie - here's a link you might find educational http://goaustralia.about.com/cs/language/a/strinea.htm hoo roo Ron definitely do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton Sent: Monday, 21 August 2006 10:12 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flight G'day Neville, Av-a-go-yer-mug bloke - good on ya mate. I imagine you had a couple coldies after that flight. That's about all the Aussi I can muster. I can see you Rv grin all the way over here. Congratulation cheerio Wayne Edgerton #40336 do not archive


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    Time: 06:57:34 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Panel Drawing
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I've had one at this link for a couple years now... Not sure if it's the format you need. http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/rv_drawings/index.html Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Jesse Saint > Sent: Mon 8/21/2006 8:01 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Panel Drawing > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> > > Does anybody on the list have an accurate drawing of the standard Van's > panel for the -10? I talked to Van's and they said there should be on on > the Van's Airforce website, but they only had the 8 and 9 or something > like that. If you have a drawing of the -10 (especially if you know from > experience that it is accurate), please e-mail it off the list. > > A waterjet cutting company said it would be cheaper to cut the panel and > all of the cutouts out of a ractangle of aluminum than to just cut out > the...uh...cutouts...from an already cut out panel. Well, I think I got > that out right. > > Thanks and do not archive. >


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    Time: 07:39:16 PM PST US
    From: "Neil McLeod" <neilmcleod@hughes.net>
    Subject: Re: Skybolt adjustable cam locks
    I used the Skybolt camlocs on my RV-7. As I see it the advantage besides adjusting for wear is adjusting for the thickness of the cowling. Being a hand laid up fiberglass piece it is not a consistant thickness and the adjustable camlocs make it easy to set up on the original installation. I'm happy with thim so far but only have about 30 hours on them so far. I have not installed the retainers for the outer part that locks into the airframe yet because I'm still tweaking things. Neil ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Edgerton To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:32 AM Subject: RV10-List: Skybolt adjustable cam locks Don't know if any of you have considered cam locks vs hinges for your cowling. Skybolt has adjustable camlocks for the RV10 and they have a RV10 kit. The non adjustable camlocks would be a problem because they would loosen and damage the cowling. With the adjustable one you can keep them tight by adjusting them as they loosen. If anyone is interested here is their web site. Look around until you find the RV section. I'm just now installing mine. We'll see how well it goes. http://www.skybolt.com/ Here is their blurb. VANS RV SERIES AND OTHER KIT PLANE INSTALLATION Skybolt has perfected the installation of CLoc=AE Fasteners in hundreds of Vans RV 4,6,7,8,9 and 10 and other kit planes. The Skybolt design adds functionality and appearance to any cowling. Hinge is the perfect design for a pop-rivet aircraft. Skybolt CLoc=AE is the perfect design for a true investment in pride. Wayne Edgerton #40336 working installing camlocks


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    Time: 09:58:01 PM PST US
    From: "KiloPapa" <kilopapa@antelecom.net>
    Subject: Re: Skybolt adjustable cam locks
    Wayne, I plan on looking at the CamLocs when I get to that point. I will be interested in your thoughts on them after you get them installed. Would enjoy some pics too. Thanks, Kevin 40494 tail/empennage do not archive Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:32 AM Subject: RV10-List: Skybolt adjustable cam locks Don't know if any of you have considered cam locks vs hinges for your cowling. Skybolt has adjustable camlocks for the RV10 and they have a RV10 kit. The non adjustable camlocks would be a problem because they would loosen and damage the cowling. With the adjustable one you can keep them tight by adjusting them as they loosen. Wayne Edgerton #40336 working installing camlocks




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