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Tue 08/22/06


Total Messages Posted: 15



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:03 AM - Re: almost ready!!!!! (Brian Douglas)
     2. 07:32 AM - Re: Panel Drawing (Evan and Megan Johnson)
     3. 08:25 AM - Re: How to speak Ozzie (Rick)
     4. 02:54 PM - Re: Window overspray (Vern W. Smith)
     5. 03:03 PM - Re: Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10 (Vern W. Smith)
     6. 03:52 PM - Battery Cable Routing (Albert Gardner)
     7. 04:28 PM - Re: Battery Cable Routing (Mike Kraus)
     8. 04:58 PM - Re: Battery Cable Routing (Marcus Cooper)
     9. 06:22 PM - Re: Battery Cable Routing (Deems Davis)
    10. 07:13 PM - GM LS2 Engine - opinions (jdalton77)
    11. 07:49 PM - Re: Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10 (bcondrey)
    12. 07:57 PM - Re: Battery Cable Routing (David McNeill)
    13. 09:04 PM - Re: Window overspray (KiloPapa)
    14. 09:46 PM - Re: Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10 (Tim Olson)
    15. 09:50 PM - Re: Re: Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10 (Tim Olson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:03:52 AM PST US
    From: "Brian Douglas" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
    Subject: Re: almost ready!!!!!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Douglas" <bsponcil@belinblank.org> Wow the paint came out great! I'm really interested to hear your perspective on the Blue Mountain stuff once you get flying. Keep us posted. -Brian N211BD Iowa City, IA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwadejr@hughes.net> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:36 PM Subject: RV10-List: almost ready!!!!! > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" > <jwadejr@hughes.net> > > Panel arriving this week!! A few weeks, should be up!!!! and Flying!!! > > Jim & Julie Wade > 40383 > slow build > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56115#56115 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/imgp0037_119.jpg


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    Time: 07:32:57 AM PST US
    From: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net>
    Subject: Re: Panel Drawing
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Evan and Megan Johnson" <evmeg@snowcrest.net> I have a couple of AutoCAD layouts you are welcome to. I have build quite a few panels for assorted airplanes using these shapes so I think you will find them pretty good....but check them anyway with a full sized drawing first. I have a piece of 1/4" alum. I am planning on laser cutting for my panel. It is thicker than stock but heavy enough to machine countersink for flush instrument screws. I figure that by the time I am done cutting there wont be much left of the original panel anyway so no big weight penalty. Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 5:01 PM Subject: RV10-List: Panel Drawing > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> > > Does anybody on the list have an accurate drawing of the standard Van's > panel for the -10? I talked to Van's and they said there should be on on > the Van's Airforce website, but they only had the 8 and 9 or something > like that. If you have a drawing of the -10 (especially if you know from > experience that it is accurate), please e-mail it off the list. > > A waterjet cutting company said it would be cheaper to cut the panel and > all of the cutouts out of a ractangle of aluminum than to just cut out > the...uh...cutouts...from an already cut out panel. Well, I think I got > that out right. > > Thanks and do not archive. > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > >


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    Time: 08:25:13 AM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: How to speak Ozzie
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> Sure, now you send it!!! It would have been helpful meeting all your down under bretheren I met at OSH. Rick 40185 do not archive


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    Time: 02:54:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Window overspray
    From: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com> Hi, A product I had recommended to me by an A&P was DuPont's PrepSol ("5 Star" brand has the similar product called Wax and Grease Remover.) It should be available in the local car paint shop in quarts and gallons. I used it on a Cessna to clean some overspray off and it worked well without harming the Plexiglas. I have not used it on Van's windows so if you go this way try it on a scrap first. Vern (#40324 wings) > -----Original Message----- > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 6:39 PM > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net> > > Some time ago there were some great responses on how to remove overspray > from the windows. At the time I was scoffing the idea and didn't save > what > would now be some extremely valuable information. Any reposting, or at > least the proper search words (no luck on my part), would be deeply > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Marcus > 40286 - engine running, dangerously close to inspection time! If I can > just > get all the Gucci panels programmed I'll be in business. > > > > > -- > > > -- > > >


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    Time: 03:03:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10
    From: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com> Hi All, I've lost the email, but someone asked about ship dates of finishing kits and if they had the aluminum or stainless spacers (part number U-1032.) I checked and my kit was packed on 2-6-06 and included the stainless steel spacers. Vern (#40324)


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    Time: 03:52:26 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Battery Cable Routing
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net> I'm running the wires and finding the battery cable a puzzle. How have others routed the cable once you reach the front spar? In the tunnel and forward, through the firewall to the starter contactor? I'm not even sure where to mount the starter contactor. Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ


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    Time: 04:28:39 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    Subject: Battery Cable Routing
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> I ran mine down the left side of the plane, under the baggage floor in the back then through the side wall under the door. The starter contactor bolts to the firewall on the middle left side. -Mike -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:52 PM Subject: RV10-List: Battery Cable Routing --> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net> I'm running the wires and finding the battery cable a puzzle. How have others routed the cable once you reach the front spar? In the tunnel and forward, through the firewall to the starter contactor? I'm not even sure where to mount the starter contactor. Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ


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    Time: 04:58:29 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Battery Cable Routing
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net> Albert, The firewall is preset for a starter solenoid on the upper left side (pilot side, facing forward). I ran the battery cable along the left side of the fuselage over the top of the spar. Marcus 4 TT, 36 to freedom! Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:52 PM Subject: RV10-List: Battery Cable Routing --> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net> I'm running the wires and finding the battery cable a puzzle. How have others routed the cable once you reach the front spar? In the tunnel and forward, through the firewall to the starter contactor? I'm not even sure where to mount the starter contactor. Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ


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    Time: 06:22:36 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Battery Cable Routing
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> Al, I'm in the midst of doing the same thing. I grounded my batteries (dual batteries, dual alt) locally (@ their mounting point. This was discussed on Aero Electric connection and got Bob Nuckols blessing) and ran a #2 welding cable forward on the left side (for starter)+ 2 10 AWG for main batt bus & Aux batt bus. Ran #4 cable forward on the left side for Main bus + 10 awg for Aux Bus. Deems Davis # 406 Fuse/Finishing/Panel http://deemsrv10.com/ Albert Gardner wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net> > > >I'm running the wires and finding the battery cable a puzzle. How have >others routed the cable once you reach the front spar? In the tunnel and >forward, through the firewall to the starter contactor? I'm not even sure >where to mount the starter contactor. >Albert Gardner >Yuma, AZ > > > >


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    Time: 07:13:48 PM PST US
    From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: GM LS2 Engine - opinions
    I'm a long way from engine selection, but I've been hearing a lot of good commentary on the GM LS2 engine (used in the 2005 Corvette). The ones I have seen on aircraft have been derated to a maximum of 4500 RPM (redline is over 6500 RPM) limiting the HP to 300HP. The engine new is less than $6k. Of course, all the mods will add up to closer to $20k altogether. Opinions?


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    Time: 07:49:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10
    From: "bcondrey" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> I just received my new wheel from Matco today and already had the spacers so it was swap time. After reassembly and torque to standard value (160-190 in lbs) I was dismayed to see the spacers turning with the wheel. Only way this can happen is that the axle is slighly longer than the wheel/bearing/spacer assembly. I'm going to call Van's tomorrow to see what they recommend before shaving a bit off the axle or doing another mod like set screws through the fork, etc. Seems like with some preload they wouldn't be able to turn at all... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56548#56548


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    Time: 07:57:48 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Battery Cable Routing
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net> Why not run the battery to buss wire from the hot side of the starter relay to the primary buss.(less weight and wire) also hook the batteries in parallel so that either or both may be used to start. The grounding wires for the master switches need be only #20 to the hot side of the master contactor for each battery. Remember to put the diodes on the relays to protect the contactors. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 6:21 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Battery Cable Routing > --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> > > Al, I'm in the midst of doing the same thing. I grounded my batteries > (dual batteries, dual alt) locally (@ their mounting point. This was > discussed on Aero Electric connection and got Bob Nuckols blessing) and > ran a #2 welding cable forward on the left side (for starter)+ 2 10 AWG > for main batt bus & Aux batt bus. Ran #4 cable forward on the left side > for Main bus + 10 awg for Aux Bus. > > Deems Davis # 406 > Fuse/Finishing/Panel > http://deemsrv10.com/ > > > Albert Gardner wrote: > >>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@adelphia.net> >> >> >>I'm running the wires and finding the battery cable a puzzle. How have >>others routed the cable once you reach the front spar? In the tunnel and >>forward, through the firewall to the starter contactor? I'm not even sure >>where to mount the starter contactor. >>Albert Gardner >>Yuma, AZ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 09:04:18 PM PST US
    From: "KiloPapa" <kilopapa@antelecom.net>
    Subject: Re: Window overspray
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "KiloPapa" <kilopapa@antelecom.net> Read the reply from John Cox in this thread before you use any solvents: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=5024 Kevin 40494 tail/empennage ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:53 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Window overspray > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com> > > Hi, > > A product I had recommended to me by an A&P was DuPont's PrepSol ("5 > Star" brand has the similar product called Wax and Grease Remover.) It > should be available in the local car paint shop in quarts and gallons. I > used it on a Cessna to clean some overspray off and it worked well > without harming the Plexiglas. I have not used it on Van's windows so if > you go this way try it on a scrap first. > > Vern (#40324 wings)


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    Time: 09:46:35 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> That's getting pretty far along in an absolute and complete contradiction to the "very few kits shipped with" that someone was told on the phone. I mean, if you ship kits for a couple of years, that's just not "very few" anymore. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Vern W. Smith wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com> > > Hi All, > > I've lost the email, but someone asked about ship dates of finishing > kits and if they had the aluminum or stainless spacers (part number > U-1032.) I checked and my kit was packed on 2-6-06 and included the > stainless steel spacers. > > Vern (#40324) >


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    Time: 09:50:24 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Serious Front Axle Maintenance Issue on the RV-10
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Yeah, and if there's not enough preload to keep the spacers from spinning, there's probably not enough preload on the bearings to keep everything as tight as it should be to prevent slop....and it'll only get worse over time as things wear in. The axle shaving thing is scary, but if you're willing to put in the AN970 washers on the outside, then at least adding washers can make up for some removed material. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive bcondrey wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "bcondrey" > <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> > > I just received my new wheel from Matco today and already had the > spacers so it was swap time. After reassembly and torque to standard > value (160-190 in lbs) I was dismayed to see the spacers turning with > the wheel. Only way this can happen is that the axle is slighly > longer than the wheel/bearing/spacer assembly. I'm going to call > Van's tomorrow to see what they recommend before shaving a bit off > the axle or doing another mod like set screws through the fork, etc. > Seems like with some preload they wouldn't be able to turn at all... > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56548#56548 > > >




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