---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 08/25/06: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:13 AM - Re: Servicing air in the tires (Wayne Edgerton) 2. 05:55 AM - Re: panel access (Jesse Saint) 3. 06:02 AM - Re: Servicing air in the tires (Roger Standley) 4. 06:26 AM - Re: panel access (David McNeill) 5. 06:56 AM - Tire Pressure Loss (Link McGarity) 6. 07:13 AM - Re: Can and RV-10 be insured for two-seats only? (JACK LOCKAMY) 7. 08:19 AM - Re: panel access (Ralph E. Capen) 8. 11:14 AM - Re: panel access (Scott Schmidt) 9. 11:27 AM - Re: Can and RV-10 be insured for two-seats only? (bruce breckenridge) 10. 11:49 AM - Van's Homecoming (bruce breckenridge) 11. 12:14 PM - Re: Van's Homecoming (Paul Grimstad) 12. 12:54 PM - Re: Van's Homecoming (Jesse Saint) 13. 12:58 PM - Re: crotch straps (Randy Lervold) 14. 01:21 PM - Forest of Tabs (Deems Davis) 15. 01:33 PM - SportAir Workshop in Watsonville, CA (Dave Saylor) 16. 01:44 PM - Re: Forest of Tabs (Jesse Saint) 17. 01:59 PM - Re: panel access (Bob Leffler) 18. 05:46 PM - Re: Jacks (Roger Standley) 19. 07:39 PM - Aircraft Door Seal sample (KiloPapa) 20. 08:11 PM - Re: Aircraft Door Seal sample (GRANSCOTT@aol.com) 21. 09:11 PM - Re: Forest of Tabs (Richard Sipp) 22. 09:54 PM - Re: Jacks (Roger Standley) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:52 AM PST US From: "Wayne Edgerton" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Servicing air in the tires Roger What do you do if your just a little low on air? Wayne Edgerton #40336 do no archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:28 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel access OK, I am a little confused. You are making two slots 3x8=94 (a little tight for a hand with a tool, I would think), about 3.5=94 aft of the panel. This is aft of which panel (I assume the subpanel)? If it is inside the windshield, I think you will have much better access from underneath, personally. If you are talking aft of the firewall, and thus outside the windshield, then it will have to be sealed. This is the only place I can imagine an access panel that would be worth the trouble to put in, so you can get at anything that you might put between the subpanel and the firewall, because that is very hard to get to after the rudder pedals are installed (not to mention the control sticks and seats). Am I missing something? Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:27 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: panel access I spoke with Van's today and they see no problem creating access panels. I plan to create two 3" by 8" slots about 3.5" aft of the panel ; they will each start about 2" either side of the center post. Van's suggested avoiding overkill on the doublers. match the thickness of the forward deck with the doubler. They suggested #6 screws but I will use #8s and nutplates. I will be necessary to use cap screws with internal hex head so that an Allen wrench can install and remove. I will install my defroster fan just forward of the left slot with some .625" standoffs ; I believe this will provide adequate air circulation to keep condensation at a minimum in rainy humid conditions. ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:taildragon@msn.com"Roger Standley Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:57 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: panel access David, I considered doing this but decided to cut the panel into three sections instead. This worked well for my simple VFR panel layout. Center section should not have to be removed. Side sections give plenty of access. Roger #40291 ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:dlm46007@cox.net"David McNeill Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:31 PM Subject: RV10-List: panel access Has anyone cut access panels into the glareshield to provide access to the rear for easy access to connect/disconnect instruments. s.com/Navigator?RV10-List s.com/Navigator?RV10-List "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"http://www.matronics.com/Na vig ator?RV10-List "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com "http://wiki.matronics.com"http://wiki.matronics.com "http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion 8/23/2006 -- 8/24/2006 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:26 AM PST US From: "Roger Standley" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Servicing air in the tires Wayne, Why am I a little low on air? Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Edgerton To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:13 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Servicing air in the tires Roger What do you do if your just a little low on air? Wayne Edgerton #40336 do no archive http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:03 AM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: Re: RV10-List: panel access They will be inside the windshield; Had already considered that 3 by 8 could actually be about 6 by 8 without interference ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Saint To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 5:53 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel access OK, I am a little confused. You are making two slots 3x8=94 (a little tight for a hand with a tool, I would think), about 3.5=94 aft of the panel. This is aft of which panel (I assume the subpanel)? If it is inside the windshield, I think you will have much better access from underneath, personally. If you are talking aft of the firewall, and thus outside the windshield, then it will have to be sealed. This is the only place I can imagine an access panel that would be worth the trouble to put in, so you can get at anything that you might put between the subpanel and the firewall, because that is very hard to get to after the rudder pedals are installed (not to mention the control sticks and seats). Am I missing something? Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:27 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: panel access I spoke with Van's today and they see no problem creating access panels. I plan to create two 3" by 8" slots about 3.5" aft of the panel ; they will each start about 2" either side of the center post. Van's suggested avoiding overkill on the doublers. match the thickness of the forward deck with the doubler. They suggested #6 screws but I will use #8s and nutplates. I will be necessary to use cap screws with internal hex head so that an Allen wrench can install and remove. I will install my defroster fan just forward of the left slot with some .625" standoffs ; I believe this will provide adequate air circulation to keep condensation at a minimum in rainy humid conditions. ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Standley To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:57 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: panel access David, I considered doing this but decided to cut the panel into three sections instead. This worked well for my simple VFR panel layout. Center section should not have to be removed. Side sections give plenty of access. Roger #40291 ----- Original Message ----- From: David McNeill To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:31 PM Subject: RV10-List: panel access Has anyone cut access panels into the glareshield to provide access to the rear for easy access to connect/disconnect instruments. s.com/Navigator?RV10-List s.com/Navigator?RV10-List -- Date: 8/23/2006 -- 8/24/2006 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:33 AM PST US From: Link McGarity Subject: RV10-List: Tire Pressure Loss --> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity Aircraft tires, especially small ones, will lose air pressure due to a number of reasons, most of which do not warrant a tube/tire change. Have holes in my RV-6 wheel pants with pop out plugs for 2-3 years now. Just take a hole saw, support from back side, and cut. May have to dress up rim/edge of hole for durability. LM, RV-6/N42GF/FD38 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:48 AM PST US From: "JACK LOCKAMY" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Can and RV-10 be insured for two-seats only? Yeah, I know.... but the benefits are well worth it. Trust me! :-) Besides, we have been together for ten (10) years and I have a lot invested in her. At 41 years old, she's got the body of a 21 year old (goes to the gym 5 days a week along with Yoga and Pilates classes the other two days).... Beautiful, sexy, smart and she's 'smoking hot'!. It's the perfect set up.... She owns and lives in her own home 18 miles away, I live alone in my home about 1.2 miles from the hangar/airport, and we get together on Saturday evening and all day on Sundays! The rest of the time I get to spend building or flying airplanes. What more could a guy want and who the heck would want to give that up? Oh, and on Sunday's she brings over all my pre-cooked/prepared meals for the entire next week..... Excellent cook and she love's to do it.... Sorry for the 'boast post'... but I just couldn't resist. I have too many buddies at the airport that would die to have the situation I have so if she needs room for three suitcases full of shoes..... she's got it! :-) Note: Photos NOT available upon request! :-) Jack Lockamy... single and lovin' it! Camarillo, CA www,jacklockamy.com do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:26 AM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel access --> RV10-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" On my 6A slider, I made my panel removable...the eight pack is removable from the panel and provides access to allow the rest of the panel to come out. I am thinking about access panels forward of the windshield though. Ralph -----Original Message----- >From: Jesse Saint >Sent: Aug 25, 2006 8:53 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel access > >OK, I am a little confused. You are making two slots 3x8? (a little tight >for a hand with a tool, I would think), about 3.5? aft of the panel. This >is aft of which panel (I assume the subpanel)? If it is inside the >windshield, I think you will have much better access from underneath, >personally. If you are talking aft of the firewall, and thus outside the >windshield, then it will have to be sealed. This is the only place I can >imagine an access panel that would be worth the trouble to put in, so you >can get at anything that you might put between the subpanel and the >firewall, because that is very hard to get to after the rudder pedals are >installed (not to mention the control sticks and seats). Am I missing >something? > > > >Do not archive. > > > >Jesse Saint > >I-TEC, Inc. > >HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org > >HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org > >W: 352-465-4545 > >C: 352-427-0285 > > _____ > >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill >Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:27 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: panel access > > > >I spoke with Van's today and they see no problem creating access panels. I >plan to create two 3" by 8" slots about 3.5" aft of the panel ; they will >each start about 2" either side of the center post. Van's suggested avoiding >overkill on the doublers. match the thickness of the forward deck with the >doubler. They suggested #6 screws but I will use #8s and nutplates. I will >be necessary to use cap screws with internal hex head so that an Allen >wrench can install and remove. I will install my defroster fan just forward >of the left slot with some .625" standoffs ; I believe this will provide >adequate air circulation to keep condensation at a minimum in rainy humid >conditions. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: HYPERLINK "mailto:taildragon@msn.com"Roger Standley > >To: HYPERLINK "mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com"rv10-list@matronics.com > >Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:57 PM > >Subject: Re: RV10-List: panel access > > > > > >David, > > > >I considered doing this but decided to cut the panel into three sections >instead. This worked well for my simple VFR panel layout. Center section >should not have to be removed. Side sections give plenty of access. > > > >Roger > >#40291 > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: HYPERLINK "mailto:dlm46007@cox.net"David McNeill > >To: HYPERLINK "mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com"rv10-list@matronics.com > >Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:31 PM > >Subject: RV10-List: panel access > > > >Has anyone cut access panels into the glareshield to provide access to the >rear for easy access to connect/disconnect instruments. > > > >s.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > > >s.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > > >"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"http://www.matronics.com/Navig >ator?RV10-List >"http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com >"http://wiki.matronics.com"http://wiki.matronics.com >"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >8/23/2006 > >-- >8/24/2006 > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:14:17 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel access From: "Scott Schmidt" --> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" I just finished all my wiring and I did it all myself for 2 Cheltons, 2 Grand Rapids, and a standard IFR stack in the middle. If I were to add access holes for wiring I would add them forward of the windshield like Dan Checkoways. http://www.rvproject.com/20031124.html I don't think it would help much at all by having access holes in the cabin. The windshield is pretty close and you will have a hard time seeing. I have had very good luck jut removing the sticks, laying down and reaching up to get everything. It is a pain but it's not too bad. Scott Schmidt sschmidt@ussynthetic.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:19 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel access --> RV10-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" On my 6A slider, I made my panel removable...the eight pack is removable from the panel and provides access to allow the rest of the panel to come out. I am thinking about access panels forward of the windshield though. Ralph -----Original Message----- >From: Jesse Saint >Sent: Aug 25, 2006 8:53 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel access > >OK, I am a little confused. You are making two slots 3x8? (a little tight >for a hand with a tool, I would think), about 3.5? aft of the panel. This >is aft of which panel (I assume the subpanel)? If it is inside the >windshield, I think you will have much better access from underneath, >personally. If you are talking aft of the firewall, and thus outside the >windshield, then it will have to be sealed. This is the only place I can >imagine an access panel that would be worth the trouble to put in, so you >can get at anything that you might put between the subpanel and the >firewall, because that is very hard to get to after the rudder pedals are >installed (not to mention the control sticks and seats). Am I missing >something? > > > >Do not archive. > > > >Jesse Saint > >I-TEC, Inc. > >HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org > >HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org > >W: 352-465-4545 > >C: 352-427-0285 > > _____ > >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill >Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:27 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: panel access > > > >I spoke with Van's today and they see no problem creating access panels. I >plan to create two 3" by 8" slots about 3.5" aft of the panel ; they will >each start about 2" either side of the center post. Van's suggested avoiding >overkill on the doublers. match the thickness of the forward deck with the >doubler. They suggested #6 screws but I will use #8s and nutplates. I will >be necessary to use cap screws with internal hex head so that an Allen >wrench can install and remove. I will install my defroster fan just forward >of the left slot with some .625" standoffs ; I believe this will provide >adequate air circulation to keep condensation at a minimum in rainy humid >conditions. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: HYPERLINK "mailto:taildragon@msn.com"Roger Standley > >To: HYPERLINK "mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com"rv10-list@matronics.com > >Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:57 PM > >Subject: Re: RV10-List: panel access > > > > > >David, > > > >I considered doing this but decided to cut the panel into three sections >instead. This worked well for my simple VFR panel layout. Center section >should not have to be removed. Side sections give plenty of access. > > > >Roger > >#40291 > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: HYPERLINK "mailto:dlm46007@cox.net"David McNeill > >To: HYPERLINK "mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com"rv10-list@matronics.com > >Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:31 PM > >Subject: RV10-List: panel access > > > >Has anyone cut access panels into the glareshield to provide access to the >rear for easy access to connect/disconnect instruments. > > > >s.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > > >s.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > > >"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"http://www.matronics.com/ Navig >ator?RV10-List >"http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com >"http://wiki.matronics.com"http://wiki.matronics.com >"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/contrib ution > >8/23/2006 > >-- >8/24/2006 > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:27:29 AM PST US From: "bruce breckenridge" Subject: RV10-List: Re: Can and RV-10 be insured for two-seats only? You also need to consider the amount of ballast you'd have to add to the baggage compartment if you didn't have any back seats. Current pilots talk about wishing they had a little more elevator authority on landings when flying solo or light. I would imagine the removal of the rear seats would make the problem even more dramatic. Of course, you could go lighter forward of the firewall to compensate to some degree. Bruce 40018 do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:49:25 AM PST US From: "bruce breckenridge" Subject: RV10-List: Van's Homecoming Any "homecomers"? Looks like decent weather out here on the west coast for Van's Homecoming. Bruce 40018 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:14:35 PM PST US From: "Paul Grimstad" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Van's Homecoming Bruce I'll be at the homecoming. It's nice to live here. Looking forward to all the RV's coming back home. Question: What kind of restraint system is used for the rear seats? Should I install the rear seat crotch bracket or not? Thanks, And See you all at Van's Paul Grimstad RV10 40450 fuselage do not archive Question: What a ----- Original Message ----- From: bruce breckenridge To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: RV10-List: Van's Homecoming Any "homecomers"? Looks like decent weather out here on the west coast for Van's Homecoming. Bruce 40018 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:54:52 PM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Van's Homecoming I would very much recommend that you NOT put in the crotch strap bracket in the back. If you are in an -8 and plan on aerobatics, that is one thing, but putting a passenger back there for a cross-country trip is another story. But, to each his own. I think most people, from what I have read on this list, are not putting them in, or end up removing them before they get finished. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Grimstad Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 3:05 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Van's Homecoming Bruce I'll be at the homecoming. It's nice to live here. Looking forward to all the RV's coming back home. Question: What kind of restraint system is used for the rear seats? Should I install the rear seat crotch bracket or not? Thanks, And See you all at Van's Paul Grimstad RV10 40450 fuselage do not archive Question: What a ----- Original Message ----- From: HYPERLINK "mailto:bbreckenridge@gmail.com"bruce breckenridge Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 11:48 AM Subject: RV10-List: Van's Homecoming Any "homecomers"? Looks like decent weather out here on the west coast for Van's Homecoming. Bruce 40018 s.com/Navigator?RV10-List "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?RV10-List "http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:58:34 PM PST US From: "Randy Lervold" Subject: Re: RV10-List: crotch straps Paul, Personaly, I wouldn't install belts in ANY plane without a crotch strap for two reasons. There are all sorts of studies that show how much they enhance protection from "submarining" in a crash, but they also make it possible for everyone to cinch down their lap belts more effectively for improved comfort in turbulence. Randy Lervold ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Grimstad To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 12:04 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Van's Homecoming Bruce I'll be at the homecoming. It's nice to live here. Looking forward to all the RV's coming back home. Question: What kind of restraint system is used for the rear seats? Should I install the rear seat crotch bracket or not? Thanks, And See you all at Van's Paul Grimstad RV10 40450 fuselage do not archive Question: What a ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:21:55 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: RV10-List: Forest of Tabs --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis Where have people mounted their forest of grounding tabs? Deems Davis # 406 Fuse/Finishing/Panel http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 01:33:24 PM PST US From: "Dave Saylor" Subject: RV10-List: SportAir Workshop in Watsonville, CA Listers, I'm taking an informal head count to see if there is sufficient interest in a 2 day SportAir RV builder's workshop to be held early November 2006 at Watsonville Airport (WVI). Interested parties please contact me off list: Dave Saylor AirCrafters LLC 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 831-722-9141 www.AirCraftersLLC.com Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:44:13 PM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Forest of Tabs --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" On the Firewall into a nutplate. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:21 PM Subject: RV10-List: Forest of Tabs --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis Where have people mounted their forest of grounding tabs? Deems Davis # 406 Fuse/Finishing/Panel http://deemsrv10.com/ -- -- ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:59:12 PM PST US From: "Bob Leffler" Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel access --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler" My concern on that approach would be to ensure that you have a good seal. I've seen too many stacks trashed by leaking windshields. I would think that putting access panels in front of the windshield would be inviting trouble. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 2:12 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel access --> RV10-List message posted by: "Scott Schmidt" I just finished all my wiring and I did it all myself for 2 Cheltons, 2 Grand Rapids, and a standard IFR stack in the middle. If I were to add access holes for wiring I would add them forward of the windshield like Dan Checkoways. http://www.rvproject.com/20031124.html I don't think it would help much at all by having access holes in the cabin. The windshield is pretty close and you will have a hard time seeing. I have had very good luck jut removing the sticks, laying down and reaching up to get everything. It is a pain but it's not too bad. Scott Schmidt sschmidt@ussynthetic.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:19 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel access --> RV10-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" On my 6A slider, I made my panel removable...the eight pack is removable from the panel and provides access to allow the rest of the panel to come out. I am thinking about access panels forward of the windshield though. Ralph -----Original Message----- >From: Jesse Saint >Sent: Aug 25, 2006 8:53 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV10-List: panel access > >OK, I am a little confused. You are making two slots 3x8? (a little tight >for a hand with a tool, I would think), about 3.5? aft of the panel. This >is aft of which panel (I assume the subpanel)? If it is inside the >windshield, I think you will have much better access from underneath, >personally. If you are talking aft of the firewall, and thus outside the >windshield, then it will have to be sealed. This is the only place I can >imagine an access panel that would be worth the trouble to put in, so you >can get at anything that you might put between the subpanel and the >firewall, because that is very hard to get to after the rudder pedals are >installed (not to mention the control sticks and seats). Am I missing >something? > > > >Do not archive. > > > >Jesse Saint > >I-TEC, Inc. > >HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org > >HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org > >W: 352-465-4545 > >C: 352-427-0285 > > _____ > >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill >Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 9:27 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: panel access > > > >I spoke with Van's today and they see no problem creating access panels. I >plan to create two 3" by 8" slots about 3.5" aft of the panel ; they will >each start about 2" either side of the center post. Van's suggested avoiding >overkill on the doublers. match the thickness of the forward deck with the >doubler. They suggested #6 screws but I will use #8s and nutplates. I will >be necessary to use cap screws with internal hex head so that an Allen >wrench can install and remove. I will install my defroster fan just forward >of the left slot with some .625" standoffs ; I believe this will provide >adequate air circulation to keep condensation at a minimum in rainy humid >conditions. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: HYPERLINK "mailto:taildragon@msn.com"Roger Standley > >To: HYPERLINK "mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com"rv10-list@matronics.com > >Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:57 PM > >Subject: Re: RV10-List: panel access > > > > > >David, > > > >I considered doing this but decided to cut the panel into three sections >instead. This worked well for my simple VFR panel layout. Center section >should not have to be removed. Side sections give plenty of access. > > > >Roger > >#40291 > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: HYPERLINK "mailto:dlm46007@cox.net"David McNeill > >To: HYPERLINK "mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com"rv10-list@matronics.com > >Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 1:31 PM > >Subject: RV10-List: panel access > > > >Has anyone cut access panels into the glareshield to provide access to the >rear for easy access to connect/disconnect instruments. > > > >s.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > > >s.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > > > >"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"http://www.matronics.com/ Navig >ator?RV10-List >"http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com >"http://wiki.matronics.com"http://wiki.matronics.com >"http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/contrib ution > >8/23/2006 > >-- >8/24/2006 > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:46:20 PM PST US From: "Roger Standley" Subject: RV10-List: Re: Jacks ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:39:56 PM PST US From: "KiloPapa" Subject: RV10-List: Aircraft Door Seal sample Below is a picture of the sample door seal from I received from Aircraft Door Seals, LLC. I looks to be a firm texture closed cell foam with a self-adhesive strip. www.aircraftdoorseals.com Kevin 40494 tail/empennage ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:11:21 PM PST US From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aircraft Door Seal sample Kevin, I installed these in my Piper, and have been disappointed. Not so much with the product but how they've worked. IMHO in the Piper the location is not the best...it should be on the door and not in the opening. Feet catch on them along with hands and the rivets in the door pull the foam away from the planes frame. In an experimental you can get your own closes cell foam and try with out spending $70 to get similar results. But please do what you think best. As I said I was disappointed with this product in a Cherokee and it was most probably due to the foam location and not the product itself. Just my opinion, though... Patrick do not archive ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:04 PM PST US From: "Richard Sipp" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Forest of Tabs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deems Davis" Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 4:20 PM Subject: RV10-List: Forest of Tabs > --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis > > Where have people mounted their forest of grounding tabs? > > Deems Davis # 406 > Fuse/Finishing/Panel > http://deemsrv10.com/ Here is one option. There are two similar ground connectors mounted above and below the triangular reinforcement where the firewall and top longeron meet. There are at least thirty ground pins available in each connector. The paint was removed under the mounting. I am planning to also terminate the large ground lead from the engine on the same triangular reinforcement. Dick Sipp #65 Finishing ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:54:30 PM PST US From: "Roger Standley" Subject: RV10-List: Re: Jacks