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1. 12:22 AM - Re: Required tools for toolbox kit (John Dunne)
2. 02:50 AM - Re: AW: Access to tries for air (John W. Cox)
3. 06:56 AM - Re: Required tools for toolbox kit (Michael Schipper)
4. 07:34 AM - Re: Required tools for toolbox kit (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
5. 07:41 AM - Re: AW: Access to tires for air (Kelly McMullen)
6. 07:53 AM - Re: Required tools for toolbox kit (Albert Gardner)
7. 08:15 AM - Re: Required tools for toolbox kit (Pascal)
8. 10:15 AM - Avionics cooling (Jay Brinkmeyer)
9. 10:51 AM - Re: Avionics cooling (Tim Olson)
10. 10:54 AM - Re: Avionics cooling (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
11. 02:24 PM - Re: Avionics cooling (LIKE2LOOP@aol.com)
12. 02:48 PM - Re: Avionics cooling (Tim Olson)
13. 05:09 PM - Re: Avionics cooling (Marcus Cooper)
14. 06:24 PM - Re: AW: Access to tires for air (kilopapa@antelecom.net)
15. 07:15 PM - Re: AW: Access to tires for air (Rob Wright)
16. 08:13 PM - Re: NAV Reception (Larry Rosen)
17. 08:25 PM - Re: AW: Access to tires for air (Kelly McMullen)
18. 09:32 PM - ADI Pilot II (McGANN, Ron)
19. 10:09 PM - Re: ADI Pilot II (David McNeill)
20. 10:42 PM - tech counselor (DAVE LEIKAM)
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| Subject: | Required tools for toolbox kit |
Hi John. Try Cleaveland Tools for a starter kit for the RV Empennage. Around
$750 USD. Well worth the investment and sets you up well for the rest of the
kit.
www.cleavelandtoolstore.com <http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/>
Half your luck with the ride in the -10!
John 40315
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John R. Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, 29 August 2006 4:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Required tools for toolbox kit
I spent a few hours bumming around Vans today, and came home with a stupid
grin on my face because I got to ride in the RV-10. All I've ever flown in
is a Cessna 172. I was absolutely amazed at how the RV-10 performed.
I also came home with the toolbox kit. It seems that I am going to need
quite a few tools. As I am not going to be building my RV-10 right away, I
am going to have trouble convincing my wife that I need to order several
hundred dollars worth of tools from Cleveland or Avery for this little
toolbox project.
What is the minimum list of tools I will need?
Where is a good source for finding what I need used or otherwise discounted?
---
John R. Lewis
john@aspzone.com
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| Subject: | Access to tries for air |
Not going to explain the Air Carrier policy. When air is installed (by
accident of course). Tire is required to be dismounted and returned for
safety inspection. It is replaced with a correctly filled tire. The
policy for nitrogen rather than compressed air should be clear. Many
who chose to cut corners do so for economic reasons. Safety causes air
carriers to throw copious amounts of money at known problems.
Regulation causes unquestioned policy adherance. Choices due to
ignorance which lead to higher insurance rates deserve a clarification.
The policy is so sound that turbo-prop and turbine GA use it as the
model for safety and common sense. Seems executives who can afford
those aircraft and the insurance required, see a value added in the use
of nitrogen. As you go down the food chain the thrill of pursuit gets
more fun.
My premise which was not to inflame, but was that those who are prudent,
conservative or safety oriented might weigh the logic behind exclusive
use of nitrogen rather than the poor man's alternative of moist air with
oxidation of rubber and aluminum - the result. It is kind of like
saving pennies and gambling that the issue will not arise with "my
aircraft". Isn't Experimental a great way to encourage entrepreneurship
and risk taking for the perception or thrill of the pursuit? Let the
builder chose the path to be taken. Let's not make this a
Primer/Alodine war for those who enjoy cutting the corners and making
the choice. The response was for those who might not have understood
oxidation effects on aluminum and rubber and asked as to the basis for
the policy.
Kelly, may you fly boldly, long and safe. I just thought there was
value in the points made. Sorry for the bandwidth.
John
Do not Archive - because most Experimental pilots make their own
decisions and not because of a company, an industry or the government
mandated safety concern.
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Mon 8/28/2006 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: AW: RV10-List: Access to tries for air
--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
I can buy the argument of nitrogen for turbine aircraft because they
operate at much higher pressure and fly at altitudes where temps are
in the -20 to -60 range. However, your statement that airline tires
filled with air need to be thrown away defies logic. How do they keep
air away from the tires from the time they are made until they are
installed? How do they protect the tires being recapped? Why would it
make any difference if the tire misfilled was simply deflated,
dismounted, and any moisture wiped out? Is there some on line
reference to this policy?
The sum total mention of nitrogen in AC43-13-1B(chg 1) Chapter 9, page
9-11, consists of:
"NOTE: The use of nitrogen to inflate tires is recommended. Do not use
oxygen to inflate tires. Deflate tires prior to removing them from the
air-
craft or when built-up tire assemblies are being shipped."
If there were hazards associated with air, you would think it would
get mentioned there. The reference to oxygen is obviously pure oxygen
which of course poses a fire hazard. Skydrol is much more fire
resistant than 5606, so don't see why that should be an issue. I can
see risks for tubeless tires, but GA planes all use tubes, so any
moisture isn't going to get to the inside of the wheel anyway. If you
have a brake fire severe enough to cause a leak or blowout in the
tire, the tire is likely to blow a hole and release all the pressure
very rapidly, and then what is in the tire makes little difference.
Quoting "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>:
> Air carriers have to discard perfectly good tires if they are
> accidently filled with air. Fire suppression upon a brake fire is
> the other reason for nitrogen filled tires. But then air carriers
> use phosphate ester (Skydrol) instead of H-5606 hydraulic fluid for
> additional protection.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Required tools for toolbox kit |
John,
One thing that you might want to consider is to find a local builder
and ask for some assistance. It will give you a quick taste of what
it's like to build, and you won't have to buy any tools.
When I started my first RV I was fortunate enough to know a local
builder and he patiently helped me work through the practice kit that
I had bought. I bet you can find a local builder who would do the
same for you.
Regards,
Mike Schipper
RV-9A - N63MS - Flying (www.my9a.com)
RV-10 #40576 - Empennage (www.rvten.com)
On Aug 29, 2006, at 1:37 AM, John R. Lewis wrote:
> I also came home with the toolbox kit. It seems that I am going to
> need quite a few tools. As I am not going to be building my RV-10
> right away, I am going to have trouble convincing my wife that I
> need to order several hundred dollars worth of tools from Cleveland
> or Avery for this little toolbox project.
>
>
> What is the minimum list of tools I will need?
>
>
> Where is a good source for finding what I need used or otherwise
> discounted?
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| Subject: | Required tools for toolbox kit |
John,
I'd recommend finding a local builder and borrowing what you'll need -
EAA chapter would be an excellent place to start. Specific answer to
your question is that you need to be able to drill holes, dimple holes,
debur holes and drive rivets.
If you want to purchase tools, I think the only hole size you need a bit
for is #40 and you can use whatever drill you already have. Since you
are dealing with such a limited quantity of holes you can either
purchase a purpose built tool or use a larger drill bit or hardware
store countersink (size/angle is unimportant). For the edges you can
use a file to remove shear marks and burrs. For dimples you could get
by with a pop-rivet dimpler which just uses a standard pop-rivet
squeezer, you would only need to purchase pop-rivet dimple dies for
3/32" rivets. At that point you've covered everything except driving
rivets. Instead of buying a rivet squeezer of any sort you can almost
certainly borrow a hand squeezer from any builder that has a pneumatic
unit and not have to worry about being pressed for time. Every rivet on
the toolbox, except for the ones that hold the handle on, can be set
using a squeezer. I'm sure any builder would welcome you for a visit to
drive those few.
Of course, you could always spend several hundred dollars and have a
REAL head start on what you'll need for the plane...
Where are you located?
Bob #40105
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John R. Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:38 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Required tools for toolbox kit
I spent a few hours bumming around Vans today, and came home with a
stupid grin on my face because I got to ride in the RV-10. All I've ever
flown in is a Cessna 172. I was absolutely amazed at how the RV-10
performed.
I also came home with the toolbox kit. It seems that I am going to need
quite a few tools. As I am not going to be building my RV-10 right away,
I am going to have trouble convincing my wife that I need to order
several hundred dollars worth of tools from Cleveland or Avery for this
little toolbox project.
What is the minimum list of tools I will need?
Where is a good source for finding what I need used or otherwise
discounted?
---
John R. Lewis
john@aspzone.com
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| Subject: | Access to tires for air |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
I wasn't questioning airline policy of using nitrogen. I was
questioning policy that your first post said a tire was "thrown away"
if accidently filled with air. Obviously you have now revised that to
dismount and remount.
Like Skydrol, nitrogen has its place in turbine aircraft. For piston
aircraft you will do yourself a lot more of a favor to put a drier on
your compressor and frequently drain the tank than having a compressed
bottle of nitrogen around, that has no use other than airing up tires.
Having that tank in your hangar is more of a hazard than any benefit
to the tires. It isn't about cost or cutting corners.
Just because the airlines do it doesn't mean that GA and experimentals
need to follow their rigid and moribund path. Most airlines don't have
a glass display that the pilot can monitor his progress on an airport
taxiway..childs play for any good electronic flight bag that any GA
pilot can use, such as a Garmin 496 or some of your built in glass
panels. 49 people paid the ultimate price because airlines can't get
avionics advances approved without a gazillion dollars and years of
FAA lack of decision making.
Airlines also employ a lot of uncertified folks working on their
planes under supervision, so they can't allow any flexibility in
thinking, just like the military.
KM
A&P/IA
Quoting "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>:
> Not going to explain the Air Carrier policy. When air is installed
> (by accident of course). Tire is required to be dismounted and
> returned for safety inspection. It is replaced with a correctly
> filled tire. > Kelly, may you fly boldly, long and safe. I just
> thought there was value in the points made. Sorry for the bandwidth.
>
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| Subject: | Required tools for toolbox kit |
The minimum list of tools required for the toolbox will be much shorter than
those required to build the plane. The required list breaks down into 2
parts: those you own yourself and those you can borrow from others. If it's
expensive and/or seldom used suggest borrowing (and returning) the tool.
Building a plane (and a toolbox) can be the best opportunity you might ever
have to become acquainted with some of the world's greatest people. Join
your local EAA chapter, visit builders, and let them educate and befriend
you. Avery and Cleveland seem to have attracted the most vocal supporters
but there are other sources. The RV list often has offers of used tools. I
had a flat tire at an unfamiliar airport last week and I was hardly out of
the plane before the locals began gathering to help. Made some friends and
enjoyed the time spent fixing the tire.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Required tools for toolbox kit |
John;
I know the feeling!
Check out Van's site http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rqd-tool.htm
this will tell you what is needed for the tool kit. someone recommended
you get the starter kit from cleveland-
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=EMPKITW that
would be the easiest solution. I have the same kit and am slowly finding
good tools on e-bay but eventually will buy everything from different
vendors. I would recommend you take the sportair course. $300 or so
dollars and you'll basically build the toolkit in a teaching
environment, certainly less than buying tools before their time.
If you're experienced and don't need the course, have an air compressor
and plan to start the kit within the year buy the tools.
I have spent numerous hours planning, so feel free to contact me with
any further questions.
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: John R. Lewis
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 11:37 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Required tools for toolbox kit
I spent a few hours bumming around Vans today, and came home with a
stupid grin on my face because I got to ride in the RV-10. All I've ever
flown in is a Cessna 172. I was absolutely amazed at how the RV-10
performed.
I also came home with the toolbox kit. It seems that I am going to
need quite a few tools. As I am not going to be building my RV-10 right
away, I am going to have trouble convincing my wife that I need to order
several hundred dollars worth of tools from Cleveland or Avery for this
little toolbox project.
What is the minimum list of tools I will need?
Where is a good source for finding what I need used or otherwise
discounted?
---
John R. Lewis
john@aspzone.com
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| Subject: | Avionics cooling |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
I'll byte... What sort of "avionics" fan are you guys referring to and where
does one get one? I'm guessing Spruce (like everything else), but I haven't
looked.
Anyone know if Dynon is using mil-spec parts? How about gluing on a heat sink?
Seems like the Dynon engineering department might be interested in real world
feedback.
Does anyone have photos of where they are mounted said fans?
Thanks,
Jay
looking forward to bending fuse skins - not!
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| Subject: | Re: Avionics cooling |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Jay Brinkmeyer wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
>
> I'll byte... What sort of "avionics" fan are you guys referring to and where
> does one get one? I'm guessing Spruce (like everything else), but I haven't
> looked.
>
This is the one I got:
http://www.steinair.com/accessories.htm
You may not want to deal with Stein though....he's too nice for
most people. Try to find someone who'll treat you a little
worse. ;)
> Anyone know if Dynon is using mil-spec parts? How about gluing on a heat sink?
> Seems like the Dynon engineering department might be interested in real world
> feedback.
>
> Does anyone have photos of where they are mounted said fans?
>
I mounted mine on one of the vertical ribs, forward of the subpanel.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying 116 hours
do not archive
> Thanks,
> Jay
> looking forward to bending fuse skins - not!
>
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| Subject: | Avionics cooling |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Yep Spruce. It's a multi port fan that you can hook SCAT tube to. Not
overly expensive either.
Michael Sausen
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay
Brinkmeyer
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:15 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Avionics cooling
--> RV10-List message posted by: Jay Brinkmeyer
--> <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
I'll byte... What sort of "avionics" fan are you guys referring to and
where does one get one? I'm guessing Spruce (like everything else), but
I haven't looked.
Anyone know if Dynon is using mil-spec parts? How about gluing on a heat
sink?
Seems like the Dynon engineering department might be interested in real
world feedback.
Does anyone have photos of where they are mounted said fans?
Thanks,
Jay
looking forward to bending fuse skins - not!
__________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Avionics cooling |
In a message dated 8/29/2006 5:15:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com writes:
What sort of "avionics" fan are you guys referring to and where
does one get one? I'm guessing Spruce (like everything else), but I haven't
looked.
Anyone know if Dynon is using mil-spec parts?
Dont you all have a "large fan" out front already running every time the
avionics are used? Why add more electrical components with failure
potential, just run an air line off the vent to pass air over the back of the
avionics??? Ambient air is all the same temp..... acutally a fan my just circulate
hot air from under the panel???
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Steve
Stephen Blank #40499
766 SE River Lane
Port St. Lucie, FL 34983
772-475-5556 cell - evenings and weekends
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| Subject: | Re: Avionics cooling |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Moisture.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
LIKE2LOOP@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 8/29/2006 5:15:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com writes:
>
> What sort of "avionics" fan are you guys referring to and where
> does one get one? I'm guessing Spruce (like everything else), but I
> haven't
> looked.
> Anyone know if Dynon is using mil-spec parts?
>
> Dont you all have a "large fan" out front already running every time
> the avionics are used? Why add more electrical components with failure
> potential, just run an air line off the vent to pass air over the back
> of the avionics??? Ambient air is all the same temp..... acutally a fan
> my just circulate hot air from under the panel???
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Steve
>
> Stephen Blank #40499
> 766 SE River Lane
> Port St. Lucie, FL 34983
>
> 772-475-5556 cell - evenings and weekends
>
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| Subject: | Avionics cooling |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
Exactly, the last time I flew through rain I was really glad I didn't pipe
the air up into my avionics. I didn't get soaked, but there was no doubt
water was happy to press right in the ventilation scoops.
One other thought I had was to draw air from above the glare shield by. The
shield itself is hot, but the air just above seems pretty reasonable. I
also had a plan to set the switch up to reverse polarity and then I could
turn it into a defog like some guys have done. Some loss in efficiency
running the blades backwards, but it would be better than nothing.
Thoughts???
Marcus
40286 - flying, still testing
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Avionics cooling
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Moisture.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
LIKE2LOOP@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 8/29/2006 5:15:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com writes:
>
> What sort of "avionics" fan are you guys referring to and where
> does one get one? I'm guessing Spruce (like everything else), but I
> haven't
> looked.
> Anyone know if Dynon is using mil-spec parts?
>
> Dont you all have a "large fan" out front already running every time
> the avionics are used? Why add more electrical components with failure
> potential, just run an air line off the vent to pass air over the back
> of the avionics??? Ambient air is all the same temp..... acutally a fan
> my just circulate hot air from under the panel???
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> Steve
>
> Stephen Blank #40499
> 766 SE River Lane
> Port St. Lucie, FL 34983
>
> 772-475-5556 cell - evenings and weekends
>
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| Subject: | Access to tires for air |
--> RV10-List message posted by: kilopapa@antelecom.net
Your comment referring to the "49 people (who) paid
>the ultimate price" was out of line if it was regarding the
accident of only a couple of days ago. A "glass panel" is
no
excuse for not looking out the window.
Kevin
do not archive
----- Original Message Follows -----
From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
Subject: RE: AW: RV10-List: Access to tires for air
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen
><kellym@aviating.com>
>
>I wasn't questioning airline policy of using nitrogen. I
>was questioning policy that your first post said a tire
>was "thrown away" if accidently filled with air.
>Obviously you have now revised that to dismount and
>remount. Like Skydrol, nitrogen has its place in turbine
>aircraft. For piston aircraft you will do yourself a lot
>more of a favor to put a drier on your compressor and
>frequently drain the tank than having a compressed bottle
>of nitrogen around, that has no use other than airing up
>tires. Having that tank in your hangar is more of a
>hazard than any benefit to the tires. It isn't about cost
>or cutting corners. Just because the airlines do it doesn't
>mean that GA and experimentals need to follow their rigid
>and moribund path. Most airlines don't have a glass
>display that the pilot can monitor his progress on an
>airport taxiway..childs play for any good electronic
>flight bag that any GA pilot can use, such as a Garmin
>496 or some of your built in glass panels. 49 people paid
>the ultimate price because airlines can't get avionics
>advances approved without a gazillion dollars and years of
>FAA lack of decision making.
>Airlines also employ a lot of uncertified folks working on
>their planes under supervision, so they can't allow any
>flexibility in thinking, just like the military.
>KM
>A&P/IA
>
>Quoting "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>:
>
>> Not going to explain the Air Carrier policy. When air is
>> installed (by accident of course). Tire is required
>> to be dismounted and returned for safety inspection.
>> It is replaced with a correctly filled tire. > Kelly,
>> may you fly boldly, long and safe. I just thought
>there was value in the points made. Sorry for the
>>bandwidth.
>
>
>==
>
>
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| Subject: | Access to tires for air |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Rob Wright" <armywrights@adelphia.net>
Kelly, you're fairly new to the list. What's your builder number?
Wondering what we're up to now...
Rob Wright
#392
Riveting Bottom Wing Skins
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| Subject: | Re: NAV Reception |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
And I stole the idea from Michael who stole it from Dan.
You can see some of my photos here
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/Log/Wings/Tips/index.html>
Larry Rosen
#356
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> I stole an idea from Dan Checkoway's site and used some aluminum HVAC
> tape to increase the contact area of the antenna/wing. You can look
> around his site for the info and I have a little info here:
>
> http://www.mykitlog.com/users/category.php?user=msausen&project=22&category=624
> <http://www.mykitlog.com/users/category.php?user=msausen&project=22&category=624>
>
> Michael Sausen
>
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> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Marcus Cooper
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 27, 2006 8:47 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: NAV Reception
>
> I attached the nutplates through the antenna base that hold the
> wingtips on per the instructions. Is anyone going beyond this?
>
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>
> Marcus
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> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *LessDragProd@aol.com
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 27, 2006 5:46 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: NAV Reception
>
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> Make certain that the base of the Archer antenna is grounded to the
> wing skin aluminum along the full length of the antenna base.
>
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>
> Jim Ayers
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>
> In a message dated 08/27/2006 1:25:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> coop85@bellsouth.net writes:
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> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper"
> <coop85@bellsouth.net>
>
> Second question: I am not getting any NAV signal to my Garmin 480
> and the
> SL-30 is very weak, usually non-existent as I cruise around trying
> different
> stations. They are on separate antennas, one Bob Archer antenna
> in each
> wingtip. Any suggestions to improve the reception would be deeply
> appreciated.
>
> Marcus
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| Subject: | Re: Access to tires for air |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
Yet to be determined. I'm learning from all you folks before I commit to
start. Hoping to get a test flight at Copperstate flyin. I've been
lurking for probably 3-4 months.
Rob Wright wrote:
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> Kelly, you're fairly new to the list. What's your builder number?
> Wondering what we're up to now...
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> Rob Wright
> #392
> Riveting Bottom Wing Skins
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All
Anyone know when the 2 1/4" ADI Pilots will be available? I don't
really want to install a Pictorial Pilot and Altrak, only to replace
them in the near future.
cheers,
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: ADI Pilot II |
ADI Pilot III spoke to TT yesterday on that subject. they assured me
that the 2.25" ADI would be available by December.I have a hole in the
panel for the ADI as the third way to keep the wings level.
----- Original Message -----
From: McGANN, Ron
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: ADI Pilot II
All
Anyone know when the 2 1/4" ADI Pilots will be available? I don't
really want to install a Pictorial Pilot and Altrak, only to replace
them in the near future.
cheers,
Ron
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How often must I have a tech counselor check my work if at all? How
elaborate should my log (picture) book be? I may be a little late
asking these questions.
Dave Leikam
Muskego, WI
N89DA
#40496 - elevators
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